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July 27, 2024, 07:55:37 PM
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If Conte could get hold of any better striker maybe Osimhen or Lukaku then the team is set to go because the other 1st eleven are not making a move to leave the club so I believe Conte has a chance of finishing either 2nd or getting lucky to win the league, but one thing is for sure that those teams that got the best of Napoli last season would find it hard to repeat the same thing this coming season.
Conte isn't even making moves in the direction of osimhen as a striker he would want to use for his squad but lukaku has been his big chase in awhile now since he arrived Napoli, of a truth a sticker is really lacking in Napoli and it's of great essence for them to be able to succeed in the league games this season, they may not be really lucky enough with winning the game but I believe they will be able to do much better then they did last season, the presence of conte will means a whole lot to Napoli but then they should try and fix their strike lapsis and hope to get the best of results there after.

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July 27, 2024, 08:18:03 PM
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The surprising thing in the friendly match last night against FC Nürnberg vs Juventus and the disappointing final result but is this normal?
Relying on young players is quite visible from the footage that the young players brought in defense seem unable to stem the power of FC Nürnberg in this match, even though this is a trial match, many have criticized Thiago Motta's performance at the beginning of his coaching while the players who played were not all the main squad only a few new players were fielded by Juventus in this match, but several opportunities did not produce a single goal for Juventus.

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Nurnberg is weak team in Bundesliga 2 and they are always in the middle to lower standings every season, it should be victory for Juventus even though they do not use their core players but if it is only to play against weak team it will not be problem.
But in reality in this match we see how Juventus played badly and suffered humiliating defeat, I predicted victory for Juventus with 2 goal lead or more but that did not happen.
Juventus was the one who lost with score of 3 - 0 and this is result that I think is really bad, I don't know why they lost like this but it surprised many people.

Nurnberg was not strong enough to beat a team like Juvenstos however losing one game against Nurnberg is not a good reason to say Juventus is a weak team and Motta couldn't have a good performance in this team.
Juventus is still in training nad the team is not in the good form and this makes Klose to win this match with a 3-0 result against Juventus.


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July 27, 2024, 10:33:02 PM
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Hmm, and this will certainly be a rival in the club. The more hours of playing, the better the possibility of his performance.
The latest news is the swap deal negotiation from Man United and Inter Milan where Man United is looking forward to getting Denzel Dumfries with the option of a swap deal with Aaron Wan-Bissaka.
Yes, the idea of ​​a swap deal involving Wan-Bissaka and Dumfries is quite good, both teams benefit. Compared to Wan-Bissaka, Dumfries is 2 years older (28 compared to 26), but this player is rated higher in terms of his ability to support attacks. However, this negotiation is said to have not yet reached a progressive stage.
Yes, Inter Milan no longer need to add to its front line, and they are also now more focused on the back line. And for the swap deal with Man United, the way is increasingly open.
Although here, Man United seems more ambitious to get Dumfries, but in fact, Inter Milan also benefits from Wan-Bissaka. Indeed, Wan-Bissaka is not a top player, but at least, many consider this swap deal to be quite profitable for both parties. It's just that even until today there has been no further progress regarding the swap deal.

I actually don't want to comment on what happened to the clubs that played pre-season matches, including Juventus. Because what we saw in this match can't be used as a conclusion that their game will be like that when the season starts. In fact, one of the reasons why I don't want to bet on pre-season matches is because they are not serious about winning.
Pre-season matches do not seem to be the main benchmark for the development of a club, especially top clubs. Because so far, there have been several top clubs that even seem to be slaughtered by small clubs, even clubs that are not at all well-known easily. Even though they also fielded their main squad, right? Yes, because the main focus of the top clubs is not in this kind of match. Although some people say that this can be a benchmark, many clubs prefer to train and test their strategies and tactics during their own training. Because if in pre-season matches like this, if they push too hard and are too optimal, they are afraid of possible injuries. While those clubs certainly do not want this kind of thing to happen.

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July 27, 2024, 10:51:38 PM
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Manchester city vs AC Milan which took place today.
So for now Manchester City is leading 1-0 through a goal scored by Erling Haaland. Both teams did not field many of their main players in today's match because this match was a friendly match which allowed the coaches to implement new strategies to make it easier for the young players to adapt to the senior players.
If we look at Pep Guardiola using a 4-2-3-1 formation and Fonseca using a 4-2-3-1 formation.
Well, just look at AC Milan who managed to turn the situation around where the score became 1-2 where Colombo managed to score two goals. This is Fonseca's first match as AC Milan coach after he was appointed as the new coach the previous month. He must be able to bring his first win in this match because it will increase his confidence for the next match.

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July 28, 2024, 02:05:30 AM
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If Conte could get hold of any better striker maybe Osimhen or Lukaku then the team is set to go because the other 1st eleven are not making a move to leave the club so I believe Conte has a chance of finishing either 2nd or getting lucky to win the league, but one thing is for sure that those teams that got the best of Napoli last season would find it hard to repeat the same thing this coming season.
Conte isn't even making moves in the direction of osimhen as a striker he would want to use for his squad but lukaku has been his big chase in awhile now since he arrived Napoli, of a truth a sticker is really lacking in Napoli and it's of great essence for them to be able to succeed in the league games this season, they may not be really lucky enough with winning the game but I believe they will be able to do much better then they did last season, the presence of conte will means a whole lot to Napoli but then they should try and fix their strike lapsis and hope to get the best of results there after.

True about Osimhen and Conte but things might turn around for we to see Osimhen not making a move to any club but to stay put with his club Napoli and the Lukaku move might not happen, I believe Conte isn't going to let anything spoil his plan on getting the best of Napoli and if letting Osimhen stay is going to help I think he'll do it because some of he players are fond of having Osimhen around and the chemistry they have is stronger than when you have someone like Lukaku who's new to the team, I think it would be a tough choice to choose between Lukaku and Osimhen.











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July 28, 2024, 04:22:37 AM
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There have been transfer deals going on in the Seria A but they are not well known because they don't involve top players. Alvaro Morata moving from Atletico Madrid to AC Milan is one of the most pronounced transfer news.
Alvaro Morata is only a good player but isn't a star player at level that can carry a whole team on his shoulder. His career statistics so far proves his quality, let's look at it now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Morata

His best seasons in total goals are 2023 - 2024 with 21 goals, 2 more seasons with 20 goals are 2016 - 2017 for Real Madrid, 2020 - 2021 for Juventus, and some seasons with 16, 15 goals. This shows that Morata is not a world class striker throughout his career and now he is already 32-year old.

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Normally Italian teams are not always active in big money spending on players, so their low interest is not strange. The transfer market is still open; maybe we might see new signings before the window closes.
In the last 10 years, Italian clubs tend to aim at loan transfers and free transfers to reduce money spent for player transfers as well as salary. In three latest seasons, they began to get some good results in Champions League, Europa League and Conference League but there are bigger problems, they lack of good investment and focus on youth player academies. It is reflected on lack of good players in their national team and the failure in Euro 2024 is an evidence. To succeed more, Italian clubs must improve this weakness and can not rely on foreign players.

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July 28, 2024, 04:23:15 AM
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The surprising thing in the friendly match last night against FC Nürnberg vs Juventus and the disappointing final result but is this normal?

This is normal, and why not?

I mean, who really cares about the result from this game? It's a pre-season game, and it means nothing. The Juventus team doesn't play their best players. This is Motta's first match with Juventus. The players have not yet adapted to his tactics. So, give them more time to deliver.

Relying on young players is quite visible from the footage that the young players brought in defense seem unable to stem the power of FC Nürnberg in this match, even though this is a trial match, many have criticized Thiago Motta's performance at the beginning of his coaching while the players who played were not all the main squad only a few new players were fielded by Juventus in this match, but several opportunities did not produce a single goal for Juventus.





Look at the highlight of the game, and some positive stuff showed in this game. I know 3-0 is not a good result. It's especially bad against a second division team. But, only 3 first team players started. This was the first game under a new coach with a new vision. You must consider it as well.


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July 28, 2024, 05:48:00 AM
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This is normal, and why not?

I mean, who really cares about the result from this game? It's a pre-season game, and it means nothing. The Juventus team doesn't play their best players. This is Motta's first match with Juventus. The players have not yet adapted to his tactics. So, give them more time to deliver.
In addition, preseason matches like the one experienced by Juventus are also experienced by other teams at this time which generally will not have much influence on the results of the new season later. Moreover, Motta himself still has more time to change the Juventus team to be better and could even surprise many people when Juventus can win a lot next season. Because there are many people who do not care about this preseason match so this should be considered normal because the real competition has not started yet.
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July 28, 2024, 07:02:47 AM
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But, even though the match cannot be used as a benchmark for Juventus performance for next season, at least Juventus must also be able to score a goal at least to reduce the defeat or maybe just one goal is not a problem. Because after all, in reality Juventus also got a penalty kick in the second half, and Vlahovic took the kick but unfortunately, Vlahovic also failed to score a goal even though it also happened through a penalty kick.
He was close to scoring, but his shot hit the post. His penalty kick conversion rate has been very bad since joining Juventus. I saw a piece of stat the other day that showed that he had a conversion rate of over 90% at Fiorentina. That number dropped to just above 60% with Juventus.

With this result, although it cannot be used as a full benchmark, but I think with a 3-0 defeat it will certainly be very worrying for Juventus next season. Because after all, Nurnberg is also only a team playing in the 2.Bundesliga and even, last season Nurnberg only finished in 12th position.
The German 2. Bundesliga is a strong competition. The only second-level national championship better than 2. Bundesliga is the English Championship. These two second leagues are stronger than many top-tier football leagues in Europe. Don't think for a second that teams who play in those two leagues don't have much quality. 

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July 28, 2024, 07:16:04 AM
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Looks like Spurs may go for Feredico Chiesa.

Thiago Motta do not hate Chiesa but the player has only 1 year left on his contract so or he will sign a new deal with the team or he will probably sold, since is better 20 milions now that 0 in 12 months.

The rumor is kinda sus, why Spurs go for Chiesa when they already Son in simial role and position?

What a huge mistake, I don't understand why Thiago Motta doesn't appreciate Federico Chiesa, for me he is an important player and one of the useful promises for our national team too.
Unfortunately sometimes people, in this case Thiago Motta, get fixated on bullshit.
Maybe he can't include it in his strategies, but this is definitely not Federico Chiesa's fault.

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July 28, 2024, 07:35:28 AM
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This is normal, and why not?

I mean, who really cares about the result from this game? It's a pre-season game, and it means nothing. The Juventus team doesn't play their best players. This is Motta's first match with Juventus. The players have not yet adapted to his tactics. So, give them more time to deliver.
In addition, preseason matches like the one experienced by Juventus are also experienced by other teams at this time which generally will not have much influence on the results of the new season later. Moreover, Motta himself still has more time to change the Juventus team to be better and could even surprise many people when Juventus can win a lot next season. Because there are many people who do not care about this preseason match so this should be considered normal because the real competition has not started yet.
Juventus defeat yesterday in a friendly match did not have any impact but it was the first match for their new head coach Motta to show the fans that he and his players are ready to wait for next season, Juventus have been slumping for quite a long time they hope Motta's arrival can provide a new wind for the Old Lady, so yesterday's match in my opinion was very important for Motta in strengthening himself and his players.

It is true that Motta still has a lot of time to develop his game at Juventus but he cannot relax in this job at Juventus is very different from Bologna the pressure experienced at Juventus is also great so if he cannot take advantage of this Friendly match well then there is no place for him in the eyes of Juventus fans, because yesterday's match was really embarrassing they conceded 3 goals without reply from the second German league team really can't be normalized an incident like this, a club that used to be quite respected but now they are quite fragile, in my opinion Motta has a serious job in this friendly match.

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July 28, 2024, 07:36:36 AM
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This is normal, and why not?

I mean, who really cares about the result from this game? It's a pre-season game, and it means nothing. The Juventus team doesn't play their best players. This is Motta's first match with Juventus. The players have not yet adapted to his tactics. So, give them more time to deliver.
In addition, preseason matches like the one experienced by Juventus are also experienced by other teams at this time which generally will not have much influence on the results of the new season later. Moreover, Motta himself still has more time to change the Juventus team to be better and could even surprise many people when Juventus can win a lot next season. Because there are many people who do not care about this preseason match so this should be considered normal because the real competition has not started yet.
We can't conclude that quickly just by looking at the results of a team's pre-season matches, because there they only test how ready and how well they can carry out their strategy. Pre-season is a very difficult match to predict, even pre-season cannot be a reason for us to say something to a team, either when they can play well or when they play badly in the pre-season match. We can only find the answer when the competition is underway. In pre-season matches, winning is not the ultimate goal, they just want to try everything they have, including running many strategies and many players in just one match. We can also see from the way they play, we won't see them as stubborn as in a real match. When they lose, there is no regret because they know there is a bigger goal than just winning. It will be different when they are in the League, of course besides playing well they also have a target of winning.

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July 28, 2024, 08:33:40 AM
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It is true that Motta still has a lot of time to develop his game at Juventus but he cannot relax in this job at Juventus is very different from Bologna the pressure experienced at Juventus is also great so if he cannot take advantage of this Friendly match well then there is no place for him in the eyes of Juventus fans, because yesterday's match was really embarrassing they conceded 3 goals without reply from the second German league team really can't be normalized an incident like this, a club that used to be quite respected but now they are quite fragile, in my opinion Motta has a serious job in this friendly match.
Losing without reply from the German League team is indeed a little painful for Juventus, but we must also see that Juventus lost at the right time so that it can immediately use it as a lesson for further evaluation. Because there are also defeats at the wrong time such as defeat in a competition final, while defeat in a pre-season match is just a normal thing because Juventus can immediately make other steps that are quite different from before so that they themselves can also apply better ones when they are already in the next season.

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July 28, 2024, 09:17:39 AM
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With the recent development at Napoli with the big boss Antonio Conte on the mix, the Napoli side was terrible during the better part of last season and they never showed any sign of improvement. Now we have Antonio Conte taking charge of everything that would make the team come back to their excellent form they had when they won the league title, can Antonio Conte make this season much difficult for the other competitors in the Italian league? Because to me I don't see Inter Milan making a joke out of Napoli next campaign and Juventus too have a new manager to turn things around for the club, can Antonio Conte bring the best of Napoli next season and make them unstoppable?
Antonio Conte is an experienced coach in coaching Serie A clubs, he has won the title several times when he was the coach of Juventus and Inter Milan, so there is no need to doubt Napoli's performance next season. I think this club will improve soon.
Unfortunately, Napoli did not employ this coach from the beginning of last season. Maybe Napoli will not experience bad luck like this and they will be fine, especially since they still have Victor Oshimen, the goal scoring machine for Napoli. Next season, if Oshimen still stays at this club, I am sure Napoli will compete fiercely with Juventus, Inter Milan and AC Milan in the title race, but if Oshimen leaves, I'm not sure Napoli will play well without him.
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July 28, 2024, 09:32:48 AM
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Next season, if Oshimen still stays at this club, I am sure Napoli will compete fiercely with Juventus, Inter Milan and AC Milan in the title race, but if Oshimen leaves, I'm not sure Napoli will play well without him.

Napoli is very different from the previous season. They went down a long way. Indeed, after the champion and Luciano Spalleti left, there were several players who left. But even they don't seem to be much.  Worse they couldn't stay in the top 5. For next season, it is still very difficult to predict. There will probably be a lot of new surprises. Of course Osimhen is a good player, but if they don't have other players to support it, of course it will be a problem.

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July 28, 2024, 09:51:29 AM
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It is true that Motta still has a lot of time to develop his game at Juventus but he cannot relax in this job at Juventus is very different from Bologna the pressure experienced at Juventus is also great so if he cannot take advantage of this Friendly match well then there is no place for him in the eyes of Juventus fans, because yesterday's match was really embarrassing they conceded 3 goals without reply from the second German league team really can't be normalized an incident like this, a club that used to be quite respected but now they are quite fragile, in my opinion Motta has a serious job in this friendly match.
Losing without reply from the German League team is indeed a little painful for Juventus, but we must also see that Juventus lost at the right time so that it can immediately use it as a lesson for further evaluation. Because there are also defeats at the wrong time such as defeat in a competition final, while defeat in a pre-season match is just a normal thing because Juventus can immediately make other steps that are quite different from before so that they themselves can also apply better ones when they are already in the next season.
I also think that yesterday's defeat will make Mata try his best to fix it as soon as possible and of course this is not an easy thing for him especially this is his first time handling a big club and of course he has a little difficulty, but I think he will start the season well even though this friendly match will be very draining but he will be fine, it's just a matter of time for him in handling the Juventus squad and I believe in him he is the right coach for Juventus.

I will not put my hopes on the next friendly match because Motta has not been able to fully implement his thinking in the team but I am sure he will control it when the season starts, because basically this match is just an event to find their young talents and there is nothing to fight for so don't demand it as if this is the Champions League final.

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July 28, 2024, 09:59:11 AM
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Antonio Conte is an experienced coach in coaching Serie A clubs, he has won the title several times when he was the coach of Juventus and Inter Milan, so there is no need to doubt Napoli's performance next season. I think this club will improve soon.
Unfortunately, Napoli did not employ this coach from the beginning of last season. Maybe Napoli will not experience bad luck like this and they will be fine, especially since they still have Victor Oshimen, the goal scoring machine for Napoli. Next season, if Oshimen still stays at this club, I am sure Napoli will compete fiercely with Juventus, Inter Milan and AC Milan in the title race, but if Oshimen leaves, I'm not sure Napoli will play well without him.

Well said. In conclusion, Napoli remains my favorite to win the Seria A Scudetto League Competition next season, all I need them to do now, is to clarify the situation of who's to lead the attack. It's either they make haste with the chase for Romelu Lukaku or try to tie down Victor Oshime if no club has come to agreement with the right valuation for him.

There was nothing about luck last season. They brought in managers that are subpar and low grade to Luciano Spalletti. Whenever you see a manager go or leave, you do all you can to bring in someone better than him. 
They did make moves for Antonio Conte but that was middle of the season during all the embarrassment, though he did rebuffed the offers brought to him.

Playing week in and out in the Seria A alone id a great pluse for them, hopefully they'll utilize it very well.

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July 28, 2024, 10:23:40 AM
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This is normal, and why not?

I mean, who really cares about the result from this game? It's a pre-season game, and it means nothing. The Juventus team doesn't play their best players. This is Motta's first match with Juventus. The players have not yet adapted to his tactics. So, give them more time to deliver.
In addition, preseason matches like the one experienced by Juventus are also experienced by other teams at this time which generally will not have much influence on the results of the new season later. Moreover, Motta himself still has more time to change the Juventus team to be better and could even surprise many people when Juventus can win a lot next season. Because there are many people who do not care about this preseason match so this should be considered normal because the real competition has not started yet.
Juventus defeat yesterday in a friendly match did not have any impact but it was the first match for their new head coach Motta to show the fans that he and his players are ready to wait for next season, Juventus have been slumping for quite a long time they hope Motta's arrival can provide a new wind for the Old Lady, so yesterday's match in my opinion was very important for Motta in strengthening himself and his players.

It is true that Motta still has a lot of time to develop his game at Juventus but he cannot relax in this job at Juventus is very different from Bologna the pressure experienced at Juventus is also great so if he cannot take advantage of this Friendly match well then there is no place for him in the eyes of Juventus fans, because yesterday's match was really embarrassing they conceded 3 goals without reply from the second German league team really can't be normalized an incident like this, a club that used to be quite respected but now they are quite fragile, in my opinion Motta has a serious job in this friendly match.

As already said before, the defeat suffered by Juventus does not represent a danger. These things happen like the victory that took place against Real Madrid, but then the season turned out to be a disaster for Juventus, while Real won another Champions. Just give importance to these summer challenges, which do not count for anything. Check the market that Juventus did and judge that and above all you see the new coach who I think will do very well this year.

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July 28, 2024, 10:41:07 AM
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Losing without reply from the German League team is indeed a little painful for Juventus, but we must also see that Juventus lost at the right time so that it can immediately use it as a lesson for further evaluation.

I think Juventus may likely end up like there previous season because right now nothing has been done on the club, I no that there last match with Fc Nuremberg was a pre season match but already Juventus has pass a message that they are still weak, so is very possible that most of the clubs will look down on them because they have failed to prove themselves, however looking at other clubs performance you will see that there upcoming season will be very good for them, perhaps we can see how consistent was AC Milan on there match against Manchester City, they actually surprised me because all my mind was that Manchester City will win but we can see how improved AC Milan has been, so is obvious they will be very competitive on this coming season.











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July 28, 2024, 11:32:21 AM
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Losing without reply from the German League team is indeed a little painful for Juventus, but we must also see that Juventus lost at the right time so that it can immediately use it as a lesson for further evaluation.

I think Juventus may likely end up like there previous season because right now nothing has been done on the club, I no that there last match with Fc Nuremberg was a pre season match but already Juventus has pass a message that they are still weak, so is very possible that most of the clubs will look down on them because they have failed to prove themselves, however looking at other clubs performance you will see that there upcoming season will be very good for them, perhaps we can see how consistent was AC Milan on there match against Manchester City, they actually surprised me because all my mind was that Manchester City will win but we can see how improved AC Milan has been, so is obvious they will be very competitive on this coming season.
Thiago Motta still needs time to adapt to his squad and vice versa, but such a crushing defeat should not have happened. Juventus have made several recruitments to add depth to the squad, in order to compete in the top four of the Serie A standings and go further in the Champions League. There is no guarantee that Juventus can perform better next season, but looking at their efforts in the transfer window, there is a possibility that their performance will be more consistent. A series of sanctions and player injuries last season made Juventus inconsistent, in the future they should be able to perform to meet expectations.

On the other hand, pre-season tour matches cannot be used as a full benchmark in assessing a team performance in the future, because we know this is part of the preparation before undergoing the official season. Meanwhile, I think the competition for the Scudetto next season will involve several teams such as Inter, Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna and even Roma. Milan actually also experienced a change of manager, just like Juventus, their performance is also questionable even though they are quite active in the transfer window. We'll see what will happen, whether Inter will be able to defend the Scudetto.
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