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October 18, 2023, 09:28:40 AM
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I also feel strange about De Gea, because about De Gea last season at Manchester United last season, in fact De Gea managed to become the best goalkeeper in the Premier League. So, with his status as the best goalkeeper in the Premier League last season, at least this achievement should make De Gea easy to be brought in by other big teams . After all, bringing De Gea at this moment also can be obtained for free too, unless De Gea demands a large salary. Because anyway, in the last transfer window it also seemed like Bayern Munich were not interested in bringing in De Gea so yes, I personally don't believe Bayern Munich will bring in De Gea in the next transfer windows. Despite the fact, Bayern Munich defense so far this season is also not very good and Bayern Munich should bring in a new goalkeeper who certainly also has good quality.

The performance from him has been quite bad with Manchester United. De Gea is conceited a lot and I will blame the defense of Manchester United for that. I am not saying that he did not make any mistakes. Definitely, he did but the defense, especially Harry Maguire was the one to blame. I thought, after he becomes a free agent, other clubs are going to be interested in him and would take him in pretty quickly. But it seems like that is not the case. I really do not know why but clubs are just not interested in him. Could it be the salary?
If we talk about the arrogant De Gea actually he is not an arrogant player in fact he is one of the best goalkeepers that Manchester United has ever had and there were rumors circulating that some time ago Ronaldo had tried to invite De Gea to join Al Nassr but until now there is no clear certainty regarding what De Gea future will be like.
Indeed last season De Gea performed very well with Manchester United and several mistakes were caused by players in the defense line not by De Gea one of the defense line players who was quite ridiculous was Maguire and he was also considered the player who caused Manchester United lose.

There was talk about De Gea being Tuchel preferred goalkeeper to play for Bayern Munich but considering that he wanted high salary Tuchel gave up his intention to bring in De Gea.
If only he managed to play for Bayern Munich then it is very likely that De Gea would be able to have much longer career without having to think about considering early retirement.

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October 18, 2023, 09:36:35 AM
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The problem is that, besides Dortmund fans, the entire Bundesliga is suffering - it’s hard to call the league interesting when the champion has not changed for 11 years. But it seems to me that in the coming years everything may change - Bayern is losing its position every year and competition may intensify not due to the fact that everyone else will become stronger, but due to the fact that Bayern will become weaker.
As a big club, Bayern Munchen will always try to increase its strength every season, so that its dominance is not surpassed by other Bundesliga clubs. Looking at last season, Dortmund was almost able to do it, but this season Munchen has more competitive competition than the previous season with the addition of competing clubs such as Laverkusen. I hope the Bundesliga can be won by a club other than Munchen, at least for a season or two, this will make their league less boring.

Munchen performance may decline, but of course other clubs must be more consistent than them. What is clear is that breaking their dominance is very difficult to do, as proven by more than a decade this has not been possible. Dortmund, Laverkusen, VfB and Leipzig must have balanced strength to tackle Munchen this season, because I think these four clubs can do it better than other clubs in the Bundesliga.

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October 18, 2023, 09:42:22 AM
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I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.
It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.

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October 18, 2023, 10:03:16 AM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.

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October 18, 2023, 10:15:47 AM
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Experience won't always work for you. If experience was always valued then players like Luka Modrić and Toni Kroos would not be sitting on the bench at Real Madrid. 

De Gea has been Manchester United's goalkeeper for a long time so we have no doubt that he is a manager with plenty of experience but it remains to be seen how well Bayern Munich will get from him. 

In the last season for Manchester United, we saw that he did not perform as expected, that's why Manchester United was forced to end the relationship with him this season. 

As Bayan Munich needs a quality goalkeeper, De Gea may be ahead in terms of experience but may fall short in terms of performance.

There are certain people that is not really good with his performance even though he got a lot of experience, and for sure De Gea could be one of them but regarding him getting decent sometimes I really think this are just coincidence and due to the pressure some people will perform very well,

Bayern Munich still has days left to get a certain Goal Keeper that they prefer, or just upgreade their offense more and give Harry Kane a boost in just scoring just like what they did with Robert Lewandowski,


I think it has to do with his age, because now many big clubs are looking at younger players, and when they have a goalkeeper who is senior enough it is a goalkeeper who has been at the club for a long time. David d Gea is not that great, but his ability is still reliable. Manchester United did something hasty, so they did not extend his contract. The fact is that now they have a goalkeper who has no better performance than David d Gea.

There is the factor about the age that sometimes players don't perform well and sometimes that certain player is past his prime and can not outperform himself for sure, well even though some do see this if a player still wants to play for his team then I think they can not do something about this, I guess all they need to do is to support that player for what he want to do,


I hope bayern to have competitors. I can't evne put borrusia in the same place as barcelona caused by this club was not even able to break the domination by munchen. No reason to call it same as barcelona. Bayern has been dominating the league for more than 1 decade and it doesn't even make sense to call bvb same as barcelona. We have some clubs are performing so well till this time and im so happy with it if the competition for the title race become even stricter than before.
Leverkusen is showing up to be another strongest contender to win the bundesliga this season. Stuttgart was even showing impressive performance till this time. The competition looked like even better compared with the previous season.
Dortmund was not barcelona who can prevent bayern to dominate the league anytime. It's far.

Right now we can not expect Borrusia Dortmund to be on a level with Bayern Munich, and because Dortmund sold some of their prominent players I think they can not get back to dealing with the teams in the 5th place or surely a long time, and surely Dortmund will just play with what remains of their team, but if they can spot a good talent with their existing team now then that will likely be a steal for them,

Right now Leverkusen, Stuttgart, and Leipzig are all going dine for sure so I am expecting a quality game with them against Bayern Munich,
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October 18, 2023, 10:40:02 AM
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It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.
Confusing with David De  Gea position right now after releasing by Manchester United and become free agent still not any teams interested to use his service, seems Bayern Munich can't reach agreement deal due David De Gea ask bigger salary payment. I don't think with Bayern Munich blame with David De Gea level quality as top goals keeper and he has much experience exactly when playing for Manchester United but why difficult reach agreement deal how ever Bayern Munich not spent any cent yet for signing De Gea.

Its classic problem with De Gea want to play for top European level team but he want to earn bigger salary, actually is not problem with highest salary payment if accepted with Saudi Pro League bid offer and playing there.

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October 18, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
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The performance from him has been quite bad with Manchester United. De Gea is conceited a lot and I will blame the defense of Manchester United for that. I am not saying that he did not make any mistakes. Definitely, he did but the defense, especially Harry Maguire was the one to blame. I thought, after he becomes a free agent, other clubs are going to be interested in him and would take him in pretty quickly. But it seems like that is not the case. I really do not know why but clubs are just not interested in him. Could it be the salary?
For De Gea I will not think badly or prefer to think in reality if De Gea is the best player in the premier league in the past but in reality no one club wants to sign him even big complaints like Bayern Munich have never thought about a goalkeeper and if De Gea's performance is still very strong, of course after the end of his contract at Manchester United, many big clubs should make offers because he is leaving as a free agent.
The only good conclusion is that if the next transfer market reopens but there are still no offers for this player, I think De Gea will decide to retire and Bayern Munich will still keep Sven Ulreich.

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October 18, 2023, 10:47:33 AM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
The difference is very small, only around 0.30 and it seems like the betting market only considers the host factor making Union Berlin the favorite, although in my opinion with odds like that no one is really a favorite, so Stuttgart still has the biggest chance of winning if we look at the difference appearance of both teams.
Quite curious what actually happened to Union Berlin because after two consecutive wins, they have not been able to produce any more points and the addition of two defeats in the Champions League has further increased the length of their bad results so far.
Stuttgart will be a tough opponent for Union Berlin and it is very likely that this will be another bad result or at least they will only be able to get one point in a home game that should be an opportunity for them to get three points.

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October 18, 2023, 10:49:35 AM
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It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.
Confusing with David De  Gea position right now after releasing by Manchester United and become free agent still not any teams interested to use his service, seems Bayern Munich can't reach agreement deal due David De Gea ask bigger salary payment. I don't think with Bayern Munich blame with David De Gea level quality as top goals keeper and he has much experience exactly when playing for Manchester United but why difficult reach agreement deal how ever Bayern Munich not spent any cent yet for signing De Gea.

Its classic problem with De Gea want to play for top European level team but he want to earn bigger salary, actually is not problem with highest salary payment if accepted with Saudi Pro League bid offer and playing there.
Instead of being left without any team and lacking playing time, Degea should have considered a move to the Saudi Pro league, where he'll be paid a hefty salary and even get into the 1st team easily cause being without a club could make him drop form, however he's a smart person he knows he could lose form since he could get to keep for any club for so he decided to employ a personal trainer to keep ùntil he secures a move somewhere probably in the winter window or by next summer.

 There are several clubs I feel Degea might move to, alot of Manchester United fans have been complaining about Onana's form and underperformance so the club might decide to sign De gea as a free agent or he might move to Bayern Munich since Neuer is on a long term injury crisis but I still feel he should consider moving to the Saudi League if none of my speculations happens.

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October 18, 2023, 11:35:18 AM
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I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.
It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.

I think that salary was not become the main concern here. De gea has been getting several offers and i remind you that even ronaldo has been trying to convince him to join in the saudo pro league but he has refused it caused by he is still willing to stay even longer in europe with his wife.
I think de gea has other reason for that. I meant let's take a look at how he was always being blamed by a little mistake once he was still a goal keeper of manchester united. De gea is still jobless now and it's still a good idea for bayern to approach him instead of buying dortmnud's goal keeper.
I would rather than try to pick him which is having so many experience instead of kobel from dortmund. I dunno why so many clubs are not even sending him an offer.

De gea is still good being used as a goal keeper but it seems like that he has special requirements for the club to be able to recruit him as a new goal keeper at this moment. I hope de gea will play again in the future.
He is still good enough to be used as a goal keeper for some popular clubs. He has experience and skill.

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October 18, 2023, 12:48:42 PM
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I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.
It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.
If Bayern Munich want to sign De Gea, I think the money invested by Bayern Munich in his contract will be a losing investment. He was not released early from Manchester United where age was not a big factor but then performance was a big factor. The Spanish goalkeeper has been left out of the team due to his performance, so it might be a mistake to bring him into the team as Bayern Munich will be hoping for a good performance. If De Gea wants to trade him, then the trade could be successful as Bayan Munich will have the opportunity to sell the goalkeeper to Saudi Arabia after one season, thereby strengthening their funds. I said things my way, now it's a matter of seeing if this deal is finally done

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October 18, 2023, 01:33:50 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Here is the current odds Union Berlin vs Stuttgart

Union Berlin @2.44
Stuttgart @2.75
Draw @3.15

Indeed Union Berlin is slightly the favourite but since this season Union Berlin was unable to managed their consistency and in Bundesliga or Champion league Union Berlin has poor performance and total Union Berlin has experience 7 losing streak in all competitions with conceded 12 goals so this proven Union Berlin defensive lines is very poor and for Stuttgart they are in the positive conditions with 6 wins from 7 matches and they are clearly better compared to Union Berlin and i think this match will belongs to Stuttgart and as i mention above the odds for Stuttgart was quite high so it's decent to try

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October 18, 2023, 01:35:06 PM
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Yes, considering its economic potential and the way it goes shopping during each transfer window, Dortmund is the opposite of other clubs. Since Dortmund has to make money through transfers, They can sell any of the club's stars as long as they get a high price. Dortmund is forced to sell Bellingham like they sold Haaland or Dembele. After that, Moukoko and Duranville will step up to take on important roles in the team. But the story will always be just such a circle. They only focus on investing in young players with potential or cheap but good players from free transfers. Buying low and selling high is always the way this club does business.

The economic standpoint of Dortmund is pretty much great for them in doing such things they really get players at a small price and then sell them when they tend to be a great deal in the future buying playing with a small amount is something the Bundesliga is doing for sure the Dortmund have a great trader in the midst of doing such things,


The business strategy of not buying superstars but creating superstars originated from the financial crisis that made Dortmund miserable in 2004. Indeed, for many years, the team from Germany still exists and is a force in world football. The team's philosophy of selling talented players also makes it weaker, but they have earned a lot of money to maintain the team until now.

Dortmund last won the Bundesliga championship in the 2011-2012 season. After that, Bayern Munich began a period of domination. Assuming Dortmund can keep their star. Dortmund can also compete with giants Bayern Munich.

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October 18, 2023, 02:28:06 PM
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The business strategy of not buying superstars but creating superstars originated from the financial crisis that made Dortmund miserable in 2004. Indeed, for many years, the team from Germany still exists and is a force in world football. The team's philosophy of selling talented players also makes it weaker, but they have earned a lot of money to maintain the team until now.

Dortmund last won the Bundesliga championship in the 2011-2012 season. After that, Bayern Munich began a period of domination. Assuming Dortmund can keep their star. Dortmund can also compete with giants Bayern Munich.

I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Even though Stuttgart's current performance is very impressive and is in second place in the standings, from the start Stuttgart was a weak team. So it is natural that Union Berlin is the favorite and they will even be the hosts in this match. Union Berlin will definitely still be targeting another win after their last few matches didn't get good results. Union Berlin can return to a positive trend if they can beat Stuttgart and must be reminded again that Stuttagart this season is very different from last season. Of course, the mentality of each player will be at stake in this match and in fact both teams have the same target and definitely don't want to lose a single point.

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October 18, 2023, 02:59:13 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.

In fact, if we refer to temporary odds, there is no team that is too favorite. As for Union Berlin, maybe because in the upcoming match they will be playing at home. Union Berlin with odds @2.44, while Stuttgart @2.75. we'll see, there's only a slight difference.  in the Asian handicap betting version, Union Berlin is ahead with 0:1/4.
Well, if you refer to the team performance of these two teams. It is clear that Stuttgart is much more consistent, when compared to the hosts. Of the 7 matches they played, Stuttgart only lost once when they visited Leipzig. after that, they won the match. Stuttgart is currently ranked second in the standings with 18 points, and they are also productive in terms of scoring goals. in fact, there is nothing striking about the differences between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich. These three teams have scored 20+ goals in their 7 matches.

In contrast to Urs Fischer's squad, Union Berlin experienced a decline in performance. In his seven matches in various competitions, he did not achieve a single win, not even a draw. I'm quite confused, because after the match in Week 8 between these two teams, Union Berlin will host Napoli on the third matchday of the Champions League group stage. Apart from having to focus on the Bundesliga, Union Berlin also wants to at least aim to finish in 3rd place. so, they can take part in the Europa League competition.
Well, we return to the match between Union Berlin vs Stuttgard. Based on Stuttgard's performance, it is much better, but what is certain is that the coach, Urs Fisches, must break the series of defeats experienced by Union Berlin. I think, we can consider analyzing first whether Union Berlin can overthrow Stuttgard and return to the real track. For me, it looks like this match will be interesting. moreover, it involves betting.

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October 18, 2023, 03:03:43 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.

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October 18, 2023, 03:17:06 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.

It's not like I wanted to undermine Dortmund at all but I feel that Dortmund also needs to step up their consistency to a level at which Bayern are in. And Dortmund do need strong players to get that consistency. With players moving out or being sold they are relying on fresh faces and experience with which I feel chances are very low to win a title. Even if they do I would say they are lucky to win the title.
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October 18, 2023, 03:27:24 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.

i think these efforts are not enough to become german champions. dortmund has been trying for more than a decade . and...it didn't work .
and i could well imagine that it won't work for the next 10 years either.
but funny ! the stadium is always sold out . more fans than in munich . many stars sold for a lot of money. and despite new stars it has never been enough for a title !
maybe the management is not as good as in munich.


source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_football_champions

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October 18, 2023, 03:50:47 PM
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It's not like I wanted to undermine Dortmund at all but I feel that Dortmund also needs to step up their consistency to a level at which Bayern are in. And Dortmund do need strong players to get that consistency. With players moving out or being sold they are relying on fresh faces and experience with which I feel chances are very low to win a title. Even if they do I would say they are lucky to win the title.

With the way Bayern Munich are structured definitely I will agree with you that it will take a bit of luck to get Dortmund to win the title. Last season was their golden opportunity to at least end the yearly dominance and stop the streak Bayern Munich were on and as usual they lack the ability to withstand that pressure just on the last day of the league. If you look properly the league is usually won when you have a very strong and large squad and Dortmund last season had that squad. Although they fell short of winning last season my thought is they will regroup and comeback stronger by adding more players this season but they even ended up letting some of their key players leave, some like Guirreiro to even your biggest rival.

This period is seriously a time when other team will have to dethrone Bayern Munich because if look from last season they are having an internal problem in the team that spans beyond just players and managerial issues but rather a management problem which we saw a very chunk change of directors. This kind of situation is what I want other teams to capitalize on and Only Bayer Leverkusen is doing that at the moment and I hope they go all the way to win it

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