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October 18, 2023, 04:17:48 PM
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I feel that Dortmund also needs to step up their consistency to a level at which Bayern are in.
And Dortmund do need strong players to get that consistency.
Even if they do I would say they are lucky to win the title.
Yeb you are right , the consistency at Dortmund to the level at which Bayern are is not there right now , or lets say they cant hold the Level for long time.
There a lot of good players that have the Level for doing it but i dont know why they dont cant keep it , best example is Karim Adeyemi , good player but hasnt scored for a while.

i could well imagine that it won't work for the next 10 years either.
maybe the management is not as good as in munich.
I dont agree on that , that this will be dont work for the next years and i will say that they get the title in some of the next years.
Or maybe some Team like Leverkusen but hopefully not Bayern Munich again.

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October 18, 2023, 04:24:47 PM
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There a lot of good players that have the Level for doing it but i dont know why they dont cant keep it , best example is Karim Adeyemi , good player but hasnt scored for a while.

Yes there is a huge pool of talent at Dortmund. Adeyemi is one of them and there are lot others and with proper game time they can develop them at top level. Normally developing a player and developing a squad at optimum level guarantees a title after a while but is it for sure that the player will stay at Dortmund then? There will be lot of clubs who will approach players and some of those clubs will either give them a very lucrative offer or some club will be a dream club to play for for the player. It's hard for a club when it comes to situation like that so I feel that Dortmund should try to fix this.

Only player that has been committed to the club for so long is Marco Reus but except for him I can't name a player who has stayed for long.
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October 18, 2023, 04:40:14 PM
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i could well imagine that it won't work for the next 10 years either.
maybe the management is not as good as in munich.
I dont agree on that , that this will be dont work for the next years and i will say that they get the title in some of the next years.
Or maybe some Team like Leverkusen but hopefully not Bayern Munich again.
But things like this are difficult, at least there must be changes from now on if in the next few seasons there is to be competition for the title because for now Bayern must remain as the strongest candidate every season.
Bayern's current condition is still difficult to deal with the strength of their money and players even though there are some improvements that have occurred from several clubs such as Leverkusen who are currently starting to return to the path they should get but still when the financial conditions and players are not too qualified as Bayern has this will be a little difficult.
The only hope is that Bayern don't have the same good season as last season at least this can add a greater opportunity.

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October 18, 2023, 04:56:53 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Even though Stuttgart's current performance is very impressive and is in second place in the standings, from the start Stuttgart was a weak team. So it is natural that Union Berlin is the favorite and they will even be the hosts in this match. Union Berlin will definitely still be targeting another win after their last few matches didn't get good results. Union Berlin can return to a positive trend if they can beat Stuttgart and must be reminded again that Stuttagart this season is very different from last season. Of course, the mentality of each player will be at stake in this match and in fact both teams have the same target and definitely don't want to lose a single point.

The odds are something like this, Union Berlin @ 2.50 and Stuttgart @ 2.80. With such a close gap, then for me no one is really the favorite in this match. Although yes, at least Union Berlin is a slight yes, just a slight favorite and such a gap in odds certainly does not guarantee victory for Union Berlin either. But indeed, if I consider the trends for Union Berlin and Stuttgart at this moment, then I think it is clear that Stuttgart is in its best trend. So obviously, the odds that Stuttgart has can also be good odds if we bet on Stuttgart to win in this match.

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October 18, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
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I dont agree on that , that this will be dont work for the next years and i will say that they get the title in some of the next years.
Or maybe some Team like Leverkusen but hopefully not Bayern Munich again.
But things like this are difficult, at least there must be changes from now on if in the next few seasons there is to be competition for the title because for now Bayern must remain as the strongest candidate every season.
Bayern's current condition is still difficult to deal with the strength of their money and players even though there are some improvements that have occurred from several clubs such as Leverkusen who are currently starting to return to the path they should get but still when the financial conditions and players are not too qualified as Bayern has this will be a little difficult.
The only hope is that Bayern don't have the same good season as last season at least this can add a greater opportunity.
A club like Dortmund must change its policy regarding player transfers if it wants to challenge defending champions Bayern Munchen. Because expecting Munchen to have a bad season is not a good idea and we know it is difficult to happen, they have a large budget to strengthen the depth of the squad in each transfer window. I am really looking forward to Xabi Alonso being able to provide a surprise this season to break Munchen dominance, when seeing that their meeting at the Allianz Arena was a draw, it seems that this is very likely to happen this season.

However, apart from Laverkusen increasing performance, other Bundesliga clubs are also worthy enough not to be underestimated. Even though we know that in the end they will also lose points if they meet Bayern Munchen.

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October 18, 2023, 05:24:39 PM
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But things like this are difficult, at least there must be changes from now on if in the next few seasons there is to be competition for the title because for now Bayern must remain as the strongest candidate every season.
Bayern's current condition is still difficult to deal with the strength of their money and players even though there are some improvements that have occurred from several clubs such as Leverkusen who are currently starting to return to the path they should get but still when the financial conditions and players are not too qualified as Bayern has this will be a little difficult.
The only hope is that Bayern don't have the same good season as last season at least this can add a greater opportunity.
A club like Dortmund must change its policy regarding player transfers if it wants to challenge defending champions Bayern Munchen. Because expecting Munchen to have a bad season is not a good idea and we know it is difficult to happen, they have a large budget to strengthen the depth of the squad in each transfer window. I am really looking forward to Xabi Alonso being able to provide a surprise this season to break Munchen dominance, when seeing that their meeting at the Allianz Arena was a draw, it seems that this is very likely to happen this season.

However, apart from Laverkusen increasing performance, other Bundesliga clubs are also worthy enough not to be underestimated. Even though we know that in the end they will also lose points if they meet Bayern Munchen.
Hopefully, there will be changes to this but it will be very difficult for Dortmund to do because if they move out of their comfort zone then indirectly, they will also have to make readjustments about this especially in their financial matters.
Expecting Bayern to have a bad season is indeed something like this is very difficult to realize because indeed this is tantamount to expecting luck to side with clubs other than Bayern but with their current condition especially with their last season which is not very good, Bayern will definitely try to improve their current condition and as you said, it will definitely be difficult for other clubs if in the end they only expect a decline in performance from Bayrern.

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October 18, 2023, 05:59:01 PM
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I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.
It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.

I'm not sure yet but I think there are two main theories for De Gea for the next season.
The first theory is to come back to Manchester United because the performance of Onana was really disappointing for this team and there is the chance for De Gea to come back.
The other theory for this player is to play in the Saudi teams and end his career there which can be good for this palyer considering his age.

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October 18, 2023, 06:10:56 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Even though Stuttgart's current performance is very impressive and is in second place in the standings, from the start Stuttgart was a weak team. So it is natural that Union Berlin is the favorite and they will even be the hosts in this match. Union Berlin will definitely still be targeting another win after their last few matches didn't get good results. Union Berlin can return to a positive trend if they can beat Stuttgart and must be reminded again that Stuttagart this season is very different from last season. Of course, the mentality of each player will be at stake in this match and in fact both teams have the same target and definitely don't want to lose a single point.
The match between Union Berlin and Stuttgart will witness a strong fight. Union Berlin will be on the field with all its strength to beat Stuttgart. Union Berlin had 2 wins, 5 losses and no draw yet. They can get their first draw against Stuttgart. They should also pay close attention to the Stuttgart striker. He will look for many opportunities to score goals against them.

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October 18, 2023, 06:14:03 PM
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I'm thinking like the main reason why David de Gea couldn't find a team for himself is his high salary expectation. He couldn't reach an agreement with Manchester United because of this reason. I thought that maybe Bayern Munich would be keen on signing him but they didn't want to go for him either. They preferred a young talent named Daniel Peretz instead.

If Bayern Munich didn't spend a lot of money on Kane transfer then maybe they would have made an official offer for de Gea who knows. Because it took them even a long time to reach an agreement for Kane transfer at a price as favourable as possible.

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October 18, 2023, 06:15:56 PM
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A club like Dortmund must change its policy regarding player transfers if it wants to challenge defending champions Bayern Munchen. Because expecting Munchen to have a bad season is not a good idea and we know it is difficult to happen, they have a large budget to strengthen the depth of the squad in each transfer window. I am really looking forward to Xabi Alonso being able to provide a surprise this season to break Munchen dominance, when seeing that their meeting at the Allianz Arena was a draw, it seems that this is very likely to happen this season.
I have stopped believing in Dortmund since some years ago, when they sold Aubameyang, Jordan Sancho, and finally Serling Haaland and Jude Bellingham. Since then, I know that they are not serious Bundesliga title contenders, and that was Bayern winning the league last season even though Dortmund fought hard to the last match. Had it been they had players like Haaland in the team, they couldn’t have lost their chance of winning the Bundesliga title last season because Bayern was not in form.


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However, apart from Laverkusen increasing performance, other Bundesliga clubs are also worthy enough not to be underestimated. Even though we know that in the end they will also lose points if they meet Bayern Munchen.
Since Dortmund are not willing to strengthen their team to compete fiercely for the title, I am glad that Bayern Leverkusen are here this season to provide a challenging opponent for Bayern. I am confident that Alonso will make every effort to ensure that this occurs because he is at the peak of his ability to become one of the best coaches this season.

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October 18, 2023, 06:33:24 PM
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I'm thinking like the main reason why David de Gea couldn't find a team for himself is his high salary expectation. He couldn't reach an agreement with Manchester United because of this reason. I thought that maybe Bayern Munich would be keen on signing him but they didn't want to go for him either. They preferred a young talent named Daniel Peretz instead.

If Bayern Munich didn't spend a lot of money on Kane transfer then maybe they would have made an official offer for de Gea who knows. Because it took them even a long time to reach an agreement for Kane transfer at a price as favourable as possible.
They wouldn't have paid a lot of money for Kane's transfer, but the Tottenham president turned out to be very stubborn. Maybe they gave up on the De Gea transfer when they gave him more money than they expected. I think a goalkeeper of De Gea's quality would strengthen Bayern Munich. I think De Gea will sign with another team during the interim transfer period.

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October 18, 2023, 06:37:34 PM
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Of a truth Stuttgart picked up to a better form recently in a way that is very commendable and definitely yielding results for them which has brought them to the position they are on the standings, the bundesliga is currently competitive considering the recents that have been going on with big teams and the smaller teams but it seems Stuttgart is providing to be ready to contend.

Let's see how well and consistent Stuttgart can be with their performance and positions on the table,  let's hope the become strong enough to finish at the tops even if they don't eventually win the league title because we are used to the bigger boys like Bayern Munich winning the league title almost always, but then it will be interesting to see another team get to win and change the narrative awhile.

But union Berlin isn't a weak team either so it going to be a someworth interesting game, to see the the new form of Stuttgart strike been resisted by Berlin's defense which is considerably fair, although considering how Stuttgart started earlier it could be a good reason to see Berlin as a stronger team and making them your favourite but then I still feel it's safe to say anybody can win (12).

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October 18, 2023, 06:47:42 PM
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I'm thinking like the main reason why David de Gea couldn't find a team for himself is his high salary expectation. He couldn't reach an agreement with Manchester United because of this reason. I thought that maybe Bayern Munich would be keen on signing him but they didn't want to go for him either. They preferred a young talent named Daniel Peretz instead.

If Bayern Munich didn't spend a lot of money on Kane transfer then maybe they would have made an official offer for de Gea who knows. Because it took them even a long time to reach an agreement for Kane transfer at a price as favourable as possible.
They wouldn't have paid a lot of money for Kane's transfer, but the Tottenham president turned out to be very stubborn. Maybe they gave up on the De Gea transfer when they gave him more money than they expected. I think a goalkeeper of De Gea's quality would strengthen Bayern Munich. I think De Gea will sign with another team during the interim transfer period.
I remember David Degea had to accept a reduction of salary just to remain at Manchester United but they decided to still let him leave as free agent when his contract expired, so if Bayern had made a move for Degea maybe he would had considered moving over there, they're the biggest club in the Bundesliga and would offer him a chance to be in the Champions League so i so no reason why he wouldn't had considered taking a paycut to join them, Bayern Munich didn't show much interest if not they would've got Degea.

 However Kane's transfer fee shouldn't had been used as  excuse for not getting Degea, cause they would got him if they were really serious, moreover he's a free agent and would've be very costly like when he had a team, and Bayern Munich sold some players after buying kane so they had extra cash to spend of Degea.

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October 18, 2023, 06:48:41 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Even though Stuttgart's current performance is very impressive and is in second place in the standings, from the start Stuttgart was a weak team. So it is natural that Union Berlin is the favorite and they will even be the hosts in this match. Union Berlin will definitely still be targeting another win after their last few matches didn't get good results. Union Berlin can return to a positive trend if they can beat Stuttgart and must be reminded again that Stuttagart this season is very different from last season. Of course, the mentality of each player will be at stake in this match and in fact both teams have the same target and definitely don't want to lose a single point.
The match between Union Berlin and Stuttgart will witness a strong fight. Union Berlin will be on the field with all its strength to beat Stuttgart. Union Berlin had 2 wins, 5 losses and no draw yet. They can get their first draw against Stuttgart. They should also pay close attention to the Stuttgart striker. He will look for many opportunities to score goals against them.
I'm not sure that Union Berlin can play well against Stuttgart. Now Berlin have problems both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League, and Stuttgart are in second place in the standings. They will probably win this match.

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October 18, 2023, 06:55:25 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.
If Borussia Dortmund had not sold their players in the last 2 seasons, they would probably be the biggest championship candidate this year. If Bayern Munich becomes champion every year, Borussia Dortmund, which sells its best players every year, also has an impact on this. However, they somehow manage to fill the shoes of those players. Dortmund is a different team.
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October 18, 2023, 07:15:57 PM
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If Borussia Dortmund had not sold their players in the last 2 seasons, they would probably be the biggest championship candidate this year. If Bayern Munich becomes champion every year, Borussia Dortmund, which sells its best players every year, also has an impact on this. However, they somehow manage to fill the shoes of those players. Dortmund is a different team.
We know bundesliga to be a tough league and it belongs Bayern Munich because it's their birthright because they claimed ownership of the league with full dominance in games and winning bundesliga titles consecutively. The only threat they face is Borrusia Dortmund, but the board knows the main reason behind their declined performance in bundesliga games and other top competition. They keep repeating the same mistakes they have made in the past decades, signing potential players and selling them after these players have fully developed into a standard form this season. There's alot to be achieved by Dortmund but they're not just ready, making unplanned activities and not serious in league games.

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October 18, 2023, 07:18:40 PM
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I'm thinking like the main reason why David de Gea couldn't find a team for himself is his high salary expectation. He couldn't reach an agreement with Manchester United because of this reason. I thought that maybe Bayern Munich would be keen on signing him but they didn't want to go for him either. They preferred a young talent named Daniel Peretz instead.

If Bayern Munich didn't spend a lot of money on Kane transfer then maybe they would have made an official offer for de Gea who knows. Because it took them even a long time to reach an agreement for Kane transfer at a price as favourable as possible.

I personally not so sure de Gea is still demanding for a high salary, because if considered from the situation that happened like this then maybe in the transfer market later de Gea is willing to be paid lower . Anyway, basically de Gea age is also no longer able to play for the long term, so it is quite reasonable if big teams like Bayern Munich are not willing to pay expensive de Gea . Also, if de Gea demands to be paid dearly, then the only option is to play in the Saudi Pro League, but in fact de Gea also rejected the offer there.

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October 18, 2023, 07:46:06 PM
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I'm thinking like the main reason why David de Gea couldn't find a team for himself is his high salary expectation. He couldn't reach an agreement with Manchester United because of this reason. I thought that maybe Bayern Munich would be keen on signing him but they didn't want to go for him either. They preferred a young talent named Daniel Peretz instead.

If Bayern Munich didn't spend a lot of money on Kane transfer then maybe they would have made an official offer for de Gea who knows. Because it took them even a long time to reach an agreement for Kane transfer at a price as favourable as possible.
They wouldn't have paid a lot of money for Kane's transfer, but the Tottenham president turned out to be very stubborn. Maybe they gave up on the De Gea transfer when they gave him more money than they expected. I think a goalkeeper of De Gea's quality would strengthen Bayern Munich. I think De Gea will sign with another team during the interim transfer period.
I remember David Degea had to accept a reduction of salary just to remain at Manchester United but they decided to still let him leave as free agent when his contract expired, so if Bayern had made a move for Degea maybe he would had considered moving over there, they're the biggest club in the Bundesliga and would offer him a chance to be in the Champions League so i so no reason why he wouldn't had considered taking a paycut to join them, Bayern Munich didn't show much interest if not they would've got Degea.

 However Kane's transfer fee shouldn't had been used as  excuse for not getting Degea, cause they would got him if they were really serious, moreover he's a free agent and would've be very costly like when he had a team, and Bayern Munich sold some players after buying kane so they had extra cash to spend of Degea.
You are not wrong, yeah right De Gea chose to resign because the new contract with Manchester United did not suitable with him, the Red Devils cut that player salaries in the new contract they offered. I also suspect that, Bayern Munich seemed not have an interest De Gea, if they were interested maybe we would have seen De Gea at there.

Exactly, Kane transfer fee cannot be used as a reason. If Bayern Munich are serious they can definitely get De Gea although that man's salary is also large, but De Gea will also work optimally at Bayern Munich. Moreover, he has a lot of experience, Bayern Munich will look even more perfect like when Manuel Neuer played for them.
I think the reason maybe Bayern is still hopeful Manuel Neuer can comeback, so Bayern did not recruit an experienced goalkeeper like De Gea.

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October 18, 2023, 08:02:18 PM
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I'm thinking like the main reason why David de Gea couldn't find a team for himself is his high salary expectation. He couldn't reach an agreement with Manchester United because of this reason. I thought that maybe Bayern Munich would be keen on signing him but they didn't want to go for him either. They preferred a young talent named Daniel Peretz instead.

If Bayern Munich didn't spend a lot of money on Kane transfer then maybe they would have made an official offer for de Gea who knows. Because it took them even a long time to reach an agreement for Kane transfer at a price as favourable as possible.

I personally not so sure de Gea is still demanding for a high salary, because if considered from the situation that happened like this then maybe in the transfer market later de Gea is willing to be paid lower . Anyway, basically de Gea age is also no longer able to play for the long term, so it is quite reasonable if big teams like Bayern Munich are not willing to pay expensive de Gea . Also, if de Gea demands to be paid dearly, then the only option is to play in the Saudi Pro League, but in fact de Gea also rejected the offer there.

That is quite reasonable and also maybe for the current conditions De Gea will also not be too concerned about the amount of salary, maybe he just wants to enjoy his last days as a professional goalkeeper even with a salary that may not be as high as before when still defending Manchester United. As we know how De Gea looks and performs during his 12 years of service for Ten Hag's squad, he has a big contribution there and became one of the world's most expensive goalkeepers at the time, with all the contributions and saves he has made I think this is more than enough to prove his quality, but for now the situation is different. He is no longer young, and it makes sense as I said above, if there is one club that wants him in the upcoming transfer window I think he will accept it even with a salary that is not too significant because being over 30 years old is no longer a young age for a goalkeeper, prone to experiencing things that are not wanted such as possible injuries and his quality will definitely decrease.

Perhaps that is one of the reasons why Bayern Munich stopped in the hunt for De Gea last season and focused more on allocating its target on Tottenham striker Harry Kane even though negotiations were very tough. Yes, initially I thought De Gea would go to the Arab league like other players when he was no longer young, but apparently not.

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October 18, 2023, 08:41:25 PM
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Borussia Dortmund will return to the league with a difficult match. Werder Bremen creates difficulties for big teams from time to time. Even though they are not at their former strength lately, they will play to avoid losing. Last season, Borussia Dortmund was leading 2-0 at home and shockingly lost the match by conceding 3 goals in the last minute and extra time. That match was a trauma. Even though that game was early time of the league, imagine if Dortmund had won that match, they would have been champions at the end of the season.
This time they are facing Werder Bremen who are doing very badly. Dortmund should make good use of this opportunity. I expect at least 2 goals different Dortmund win.

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