Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Lafu]

Dortmund has a good team and they are not weak at all. Even after selling many young and talented players in the last years, still, Dortmund was always racing in the top side of the La Liga with Bayern Munich while they don't spend too much money like Bayern Munich.
Also, Dortmund is getting what they need, they are racing in one of the best leagues with one of the best teams while they are also making a good amount of money which is what they want,

For sure they want and wanted to make some money in the last years but they also wanted to get the german title.
And at some stage its anymore possible to hold very good young players when they will get some huge more money at other clubs.
If Dortmund would be tried to hold all this players they would be run out of money and maybe dosnt stay as good as they are right now financially.

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[arimamib]

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Dortmund are comfortable with their current condition where their profits are only centered on the sale of players they do so I think by looking at the condition of their financial benefits then it has become a comfort zone for Dortmund and they don't want to move from it.
Currently as long as they (the fans and management) are not too demanding with achievements and trophies I think Dortmund will continue like that and there will be no change.

But indeed in this case in terms of business of course they will be more able to expect this as a business field for their financial benefits.

Yes, In general the income they get is none other than the results of selling players in the transfer window by selling star player. This season dortmund will not give up on winning the trophy in the bundesliga even though they need extra energy to compete with bayern munich but I am sure they will be able to put up a lot of resistance even though in the end they will give up again.

Yes, What you say is quite true, Dortmund is always unable to compete with Bayern munich in the bundesliga. But over the past few season, Only Dortmund has been able to provide strong competition for Bayern munich and other teams are actually not that strong when compared to dortmund.

[Jody.Drummer]

One thing I really like about them is that their supporters are very loyal to the club, even when Borussia Dortmund hasn't been able to give them what they expected, they are still loyal. I mean, usually when supporters demand something, they will protest to demand it, but I haven't seen that from their supporters.
Actually, they just need to raise their level just one notch from what they are showing now, then they will be able to achieve something that a club wants.

When talking about fan loyalty, it is true that Dortmund fans are one of the most loyal fans because even though they do want trophies as a form of their strength but they don't demand too much from club management to force themselves because they just like to accept what happens even for 1 decade they are always under Bayern.
An example of their loyalty was also seen at the end of last season where Signal Iduna Prak was filled with almost all fans of Dortmund and even it came out of the stadium in their last match against Mainz because they were preparing for the euphoria of the champions but failed in the last match instead of them getting angry and expressing frustration but instead they encouraged players who were slumping it was one of the craziest loyalties for a fan even though they must be difficult to accept the harsh reality where they must be willing to lose the trophy in the last match but they are still able to keep and protect players from getting too down because of their failure.    

Yes, we must appreciate it because it is very much needed in football, especially for a club. But Borussia Dortmund should also not be selfish in this case, they should be able to give something to their very loyal supporters. I emphasize this to their management, because I'm sure the coach also wants the same thing, but management policy requires the coach to follow their will to prioritize business over achievement.
With the loyalty that their supporters give, I hope it can change the view of their management, that they also have to give something proud to their supporters, and in football something proud is one of them by achieving.

[EarnOnVictor]

Dortmund has a good team and they are not weak at all. Even after selling many young and talented players in the last years, still, Dortmund was always racing in the top side of the La Liga with Bayern Munich while they don't spend too much money like Bayern Munich.
Also, Dortmund is getting what they need, they are racing in one of the best leagues with one of the best teams while they are also making a good amount of money which is what they want,

For sure they want and wanted to make some money in the last years but they also wanted to get the german title.
And at some stage its anymore possible to hold very good young players when they will get some huge more money at other clubs.
If Dortmund would be tried to hold all this players they would be run out of money and maybe dosnt stay as good as they are right now financially.

Personally, I'm proud of Dortmund, they understand their game and the tactics to win and also get to make the money, I will never crucify them for it. And as for the record, they are a very strong club to reckon with, they are always finishing atop regardless of how they use young players, and they actually understand the game and the business. Even at their current status, they are just 2 points below the top spot, which is the same level as Bayern Munich as well.

I believe that if Dortmund could be more serious this season, they might toughly displace Bayern Munich and win the season. I judge this by how Bayern plays, it might not be obvious yet but it's not perfectly like when they are in their utmost form.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

[Franctoshi]

There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment's sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.

Are you aware, that even though Dortmund always sells talented players, in reality, Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season? Last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.

I agree with you, this is the angle at which the club should equally focus or pay more attention to, in the sense that while they do business as usual selling those key players, they should also ensure that the club is still living up to their expectations by winning trophies without the club feeling of the negative impacts in term of the player departure affecting the overall performance of the team because of their contribution to the club.

[marcous]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

I agree with you, that's what big clubs always offer their target players, apart from big salaries, the chance to win trophies in every competition. In addition to success as a team, individual awards also follow naturally. Only a few players stay and are loyal to their club, and I think that is very natural because it provides mutual benefits. In terms of transfer policies, sometimes we cannot see it from just one point of view. Dortmund has turned itself into a stage for young players to rise to the level, and quite a few of them have moved back to the club that has made its name.

[AakZaki]

Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.

Naturally, I think it's not a loss to be a free transfer. But it seems Tuchel is not thinking about this. Even though Nuer is a good goalkeeper. But he's recovering and not necessarily playing well. This is because he has been 37 years old and it is not young anymore. De Gea is still 32 years old. It's still quite a while that he will have a career. Goalkeepers don't need much physical strength to run.

[laurenB7742]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

[borovichok]

Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

Borrusia Dortmund board are basically the ones that are distracting and making it to be a struggle for the team to win major trophies in bundesliga competition. I'm sick and tire of the whole system because it's really messed up and will take a long period of time before things finally bounces back to the current best condition. I would suggests an open source for the Dortmund fans, they should match up and go to Signal-Iduna-Park stadium and protests vividly because things are definitely blowing out of proportion. Dortmund was in possession of talented players but they constantly triggered the sell clause on every possible talents which would have upgraded the team's standard of game.

[bering]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

Dortmund has confirm about this before because why they didn't stopped to selling their talented players is because Dortmund need money and besides that Dortmund too has admit that they are not a rich team just like Bayern Munich so selling talented players is good to managed their financial status because at least their financial conditions is still good until now although they always be lose to compete with Bayern Munich for each seasons for race title but it won't be a big deal for them because Dortmund owners is not giving high target to every Dortmund managers and also Dortmund cannot unable to give high salary to their players so those who want to earn high salary and the trophies they can leave this team so that's why we always be see Dortmund selling their talented players for each seasons

[tygeade]

Every club has its own way of managing its team, they know what to do especially in business to get profits and one of them as usual they utilize from player sales. We can see how Dortmund now, they are always consistent in their business, have the ability to form players who were originally ordinary to be extraordinary then they will sell them at fantastic prices even to their own rivals.

But in my opinion in general they also cannot if they continue to focus on the benefits of selling players, because obviously if it is done very often then maybe they will find it difficult to balance the team's performance in each competition because they are busy with taking care of the entry and exit of players, and also of course adaptation which is a serious problem when they are struggling to win trophies or other victories.

I do not think that football is there to make "profit", it is there to increase the value of the team for the owners, but not make a profit, you spend money to increase the value. Lets assume that you have a smaller club that worths 100 million, these days very rarely top teams worth that, but lets assume that you have a smaller one, barely relegating or not even in this league.

You end up spending 25 million euro on that club this year, so suddenly you are down 25 million, but if you club is now worth 150 million, that means you have made a profit, turned a 100 million club to 150 million club by spending just 25 million and that extra 25 million is your profit. This is why many celebs and rich people are buying teams, they want to spend money but gain more on the value. If you buy United for 8 billion, and they have no debt, no issues, you own 100% of the club, and you spent 1 billion on transfers, that means 9 billion total spent, but the club is now worth 10 billion? That means you made 1 billion in profit.

[Gaza13]

Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.

Yes, it is true that many players were born good at Dortmund, such as Dembele and Haaland and others. It is true that you mentioned that the team always prioritizes business interests within the club, to maintain the team's finances, but winning the league trophy is much more profitable and being able to appear in prestigious leagues such as the Champions League, if the league performs consistently. Actually, the Dortmund team is solid in every match and has lots of bright young talent. Dortmund experiences the unlucky factor every year in winning the league.

[Altryist]

Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.

Their business strategy allows all players to be highly motivated, as each of them understands that he has the prospect of becoming a player of  european teams. Thanks to this, Dortmund is constantly under the close supervision of the selectors of different teams and in this scheme everyone benefits, the team gets motivated players and good results, and the players get their dreams realized. Dortmund also work very hard to find or develop such players, they are very good at it.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.

Their business strategy allows all players to be highly motivated, as each of them understands that he has the prospect of becoming a player of  european teams. Thanks to this, Dortmund is constantly under the close supervision of the selectors of different teams and in this scheme everyone benefits, the team gets motivated players and good results, and the players get their dreams realized. Dortmund also work very hard to find or develop such players, they are very good at it.

As I have stated before, and I don't understand why this subject is coming up again and again, Dortmund is NOT in the business of selling their players.
They do it because they have to.
With every single player they sold in recent years they tried to negotiate a new contract with better money to keep the player another 1-2 years, every single player rejected because they were off to higher goals, better teams and of course more money.
They tried to extend Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, Aubameyang, Dembele. If you would actually read German news articles about this you all wouldn't write such nonsense. All you jump on are news that the player was sold, from international media. If you inform yourself deeper, from more sources you would see the facts.

Why would they try to spend more money to extend these players if all they want is a profit from a sell? Of course they want money, but they first and foremost want titles. Titles bring money, better sponsorships and more exposure.

[klidex]

Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention

• Lewandoski 
• Aubameyang
• Sancho
• Haaland 
• Bellingham

I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.

Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

Dortmund doesn't really want to win a title either in the Bundesliga or in the Champions League because Dortmund's goal is only to train its talented players so they can sell at high prices to elite European clubs. If Dortmund wants to win the title, it might happen because Dortmund has talented players in it, so if they are able to compete strongly and pursue their ambition to win the title, Dortmund will definitely be Bayern Munich's strongest rival.
Unfortunately, Dortmund only thinks about business without thinking about the careers of its players so they can win trophies, that's why many Dortmund players don't want to stay at Dortmund for long because Every player definitely wants the title of champion at the club he plays.

[len01]

Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.

Naturally, I think it's not a loss to be a free transfer. But it seems Tuchel is not thinking about this. Even though Nuer is a good goalkeeper. But he's recovering and not necessarily playing well. This is because he has been 37 years old and it is not young anymore. De Gea is still 32 years old. It's still quite a while that he will have a career. Goalkeepers don't need much physical strength to run.

it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.

[Hirose UK]

Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

Dortmund doesn't really want to win a title either in the Bundesliga or in the Champions League because Dortmund's goal is only to train its talented players so they can sell at high prices to elite European clubs. If Dortmund wants to win the title, it might happen because Dortmund has talented players in it, so if they are able to compete strongly and pursue their ambition to win the title, Dortmund will definitely be Bayern Munich's strongest rival.
Unfortunately, Dortmund only thinks about business without thinking about the careers of its players so they can win trophies, that's why many Dortmund players don't want to stay at Dortmund for long because Every player definitely wants the title of champion at the club he plays.

Agree with this and there is a lot of truth in what Dortmund has been doing so far regarding the main goal of being able to achieve massive financial profits by selling the best players they can produce but actually Dortmund is team that is strong enough for the Bundesliga and they are very often being runners-up or in the top three so if they really want to focus on the title then it is not that difficult for Dortmund to achieve it.
If Dortmund leaders and management can be replaced perhaps there will be big change which was initially aimed at being business to make profit becoming team that really competes to become champion.

Mistakes like this are the result of team management who do not really care about winning titles and in the future I am sure that Dortmund can change.
Dortmund can become team that its fans are truly proud of in every league they play.

[Strongkored]

it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.

You are right that it is normal for players to make mistakes but it will still endanger the team when it occurs in important matches such as the knockout rounds and mistakes should almost never occur which will result in losses for the team, so far Bayern Munich's goal with Sven Ulriech can be said to be good Just because they only conceded 6 goals and of course that's not just because of the goalkeeper's role because defenders have an important role as well as protecting the goal from opponent attacks.
Of course Tuchel has the right reasons why he didn't choose DeGea, if I'm not mistaken one of them, is because he wants a high salary, of course his status without a club makes any club reluctant to make him a player, including Bayern Munich, and it's possible that the former Manchester United goalkeeper's playing style is not suitable with what Tuchel is looking for so he never considered him to be at Bayern Munich.

[uswa56]

it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.

Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.