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October 18, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
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The performance from him has been quite bad with Manchester United. De Gea is conceited a lot and I will blame the defense of Manchester United for that. I am not saying that he did not make any mistakes. Definitely, he did but the defense, especially Harry Maguire was the one to blame. I thought, after he becomes a free agent, other clubs are going to be interested in him and would take him in pretty quickly. But it seems like that is not the case. I really do not know why but clubs are just not interested in him. Could it be the salary?
For De Gea I will not think badly or prefer to think in reality if De Gea is the best player in the premier league in the past but in reality no one club wants to sign him even big complaints like Bayern Munich have never thought about a goalkeeper and if De Gea's performance is still very strong, of course after the end of his contract at Manchester United, many big clubs should make offers because he is leaving as a free agent.
The only good conclusion is that if the next transfer market reopens but there are still no offers for this player, I think De Gea will decide to retire and Bayern Munich will still keep Sven Ulreich.

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October 18, 2023, 10:47:33 AM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
The difference is very small, only around 0.30 and it seems like the betting market only considers the host factor making Union Berlin the favorite, although in my opinion with odds like that no one is really a favorite, so Stuttgart still has the biggest chance of winning if we look at the difference appearance of both teams.
Quite curious what actually happened to Union Berlin because after two consecutive wins, they have not been able to produce any more points and the addition of two defeats in the Champions League has further increased the length of their bad results so far.
Stuttgart will be a tough opponent for Union Berlin and it is very likely that this will be another bad result or at least they will only be able to get one point in a home game that should be an opportunity for them to get three points.

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October 18, 2023, 10:49:35 AM
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It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.
Confusing with David De  Gea position right now after releasing by Manchester United and become free agent still not any teams interested to use his service, seems Bayern Munich can't reach agreement deal due David De Gea ask bigger salary payment. I don't think with Bayern Munich blame with David De Gea level quality as top goals keeper and he has much experience exactly when playing for Manchester United but why difficult reach agreement deal how ever Bayern Munich not spent any cent yet for signing De Gea.

Its classic problem with De Gea want to play for top European level team but he want to earn bigger salary, actually is not problem with highest salary payment if accepted with Saudi Pro League bid offer and playing there.
Instead of being left without any team and lacking playing time, Degea should have considered a move to the Saudi Pro league, where he'll be paid a hefty salary and even get into the 1st team easily cause being without a club could make him drop form, however he's a smart person he knows he could lose form since he could get to keep for any club for so he decided to employ a personal trainer to keep ùntil he secures a move somewhere probably in the winter window or by next summer.

 There are several clubs I feel Degea might move to, alot of Manchester United fans have been complaining about Onana's form and underperformance so the club might decide to sign De gea as a free agent or he might move to Bayern Munich since Neuer is on a long term injury crisis but I still feel he should consider moving to the Saudi League if none of my speculations happens.
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October 18, 2023, 11:35:18 AM
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I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.
It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.

I think that salary was not become the main concern here. De gea has been getting several offers and i remind you that even ronaldo has been trying to convince him to join in the saudo pro league but he has refused it caused by he is still willing to stay even longer in europe with his wife.
I think de gea has other reason for that. I meant let's take a look at how he was always being blamed by a little mistake once he was still a goal keeper of manchester united. De gea is still jobless now and it's still a good idea for bayern to approach him instead of buying dortmnud's goal keeper.
I would rather than try to pick him which is having so many experience instead of kobel from dortmund. I dunno why so many clubs are not even sending him an offer.

De gea is still good being used as a goal keeper but it seems like that he has special requirements for the club to be able to recruit him as a new goal keeper at this moment. I hope de gea will play again in the future.
He is still good enough to be used as a goal keeper for some popular clubs. He has experience and skill.

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October 18, 2023, 12:48:42 PM
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I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.
It also makes sense when no other big team wants to sign De Gea after being released by Manchester United at the end of last season. I also thought that the barrier for other teams to bring in De Gea was his fairly large salary so that every team would think twice before actually making a decision. And Bayern Munich will also think twice about bringing De Gea into their squad if De Gea himself still has a fairly high salary. Because every team in Europe is not as rich as the team in Saudi Arabia even though it is a big team.
If Bayern Munich want to sign De Gea, I think the money invested by Bayern Munich in his contract will be a losing investment. He was not released early from Manchester United where age was not a big factor but then performance was a big factor. The Spanish goalkeeper has been left out of the team due to his performance, so it might be a mistake to bring him into the team as Bayern Munich will be hoping for a good performance. If De Gea wants to trade him, then the trade could be successful as Bayan Munich will have the opportunity to sell the goalkeeper to Saudi Arabia after one season, thereby strengthening their funds. I said things my way, now it's a matter of seeing if this deal is finally done

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October 18, 2023, 01:33:50 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Here is the current odds Union Berlin vs Stuttgart

Union Berlin @2.44
Stuttgart @2.75
Draw @3.15

Indeed Union Berlin is slightly the favourite but since this season Union Berlin was unable to managed their consistency and in Bundesliga or Champion league Union Berlin has poor performance and total Union Berlin has experience 7 losing streak in all competitions with conceded 12 goals so this proven Union Berlin defensive lines is very poor and for Stuttgart they are in the positive conditions with 6 wins from 7 matches and they are clearly better compared to Union Berlin and i think this match will belongs to Stuttgart and as i mention above the odds for Stuttgart was quite high so it's decent to try

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October 18, 2023, 01:35:06 PM
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Yes, considering its economic potential and the way it goes shopping during each transfer window, Dortmund is the opposite of other clubs. Since Dortmund has to make money through transfers, They can sell any of the club's stars as long as they get a high price. Dortmund is forced to sell Bellingham like they sold Haaland or Dembele. After that, Moukoko and Duranville will step up to take on important roles in the team. But the story will always be just such a circle. They only focus on investing in young players with potential or cheap but good players from free transfers. Buying low and selling high is always the way this club does business.

The economic standpoint of Dortmund is pretty much great for them in doing such things they really get players at a small price and then sell them when they tend to be a great deal in the future buying playing with a small amount is something the Bundesliga is doing for sure the Dortmund have a great trader in the midst of doing such things,


The business strategy of not buying superstars but creating superstars originated from the financial crisis that made Dortmund miserable in 2004. Indeed, for many years, the team from Germany still exists and is a force in world football. The team's philosophy of selling talented players also makes it weaker, but they have earned a lot of money to maintain the team until now.

Dortmund last won the Bundesliga championship in the 2011-2012 season. After that, Bayern Munich began a period of domination. Assuming Dortmund can keep their star. Dortmund can also compete with giants Bayern Munich.

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October 18, 2023, 02:28:06 PM
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The business strategy of not buying superstars but creating superstars originated from the financial crisis that made Dortmund miserable in 2004. Indeed, for many years, the team from Germany still exists and is a force in world football. The team's philosophy of selling talented players also makes it weaker, but they have earned a lot of money to maintain the team until now.

Dortmund last won the Bundesliga championship in the 2011-2012 season. After that, Bayern Munich began a period of domination. Assuming Dortmund can keep their star. Dortmund can also compete with giants Bayern Munich.

I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
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October 18, 2023, 02:42:25 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Even though Stuttgart's current performance is very impressive and is in second place in the standings, from the start Stuttgart was a weak team. So it is natural that Union Berlin is the favorite and they will even be the hosts in this match. Union Berlin will definitely still be targeting another win after their last few matches didn't get good results. Union Berlin can return to a positive trend if they can beat Stuttgart and must be reminded again that Stuttagart this season is very different from last season. Of course, the mentality of each player will be at stake in this match and in fact both teams have the same target and definitely don't want to lose a single point.

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October 18, 2023, 02:59:13 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.

In fact, if we refer to temporary odds, there is no team that is too favorite. As for Union Berlin, maybe because in the upcoming match they will be playing at home. Union Berlin with odds @2.44, while Stuttgart @2.75. we'll see, there's only a slight difference.  in the Asian handicap betting version, Union Berlin is ahead with 0:1/4.
Well, if you refer to the team performance of these two teams. It is clear that Stuttgart is much more consistent, when compared to the hosts. Of the 7 matches they played, Stuttgart only lost once when they visited Leipzig. after that, they won the match. Stuttgart is currently ranked second in the standings with 18 points, and they are also productive in terms of scoring goals. in fact, there is nothing striking about the differences between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich. These three teams have scored 20+ goals in their 7 matches.

In contrast to Urs Fischer's squad, Union Berlin experienced a decline in performance. In his seven matches in various competitions, he did not achieve a single win, not even a draw. I'm quite confused, because after the match in Week 8 between these two teams, Union Berlin will host Napoli on the third matchday of the Champions League group stage. Apart from having to focus on the Bundesliga, Union Berlin also wants to at least aim to finish in 3rd place. so, they can take part in the Europa League competition.
Well, we return to the match between Union Berlin vs Stuttgard. Based on Stuttgard's performance, it is much better, but what is certain is that the coach, Urs Fisches, must break the series of defeats experienced by Union Berlin. I think, we can consider analyzing first whether Union Berlin can overthrow Stuttgard and return to the real track. For me, it looks like this match will be interesting. moreover, it involves betting.

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October 18, 2023, 03:03:43 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.

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October 18, 2023, 03:17:06 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.

It's not like I wanted to undermine Dortmund at all but I feel that Dortmund also needs to step up their consistency to a level at which Bayern are in. And Dortmund do need strong players to get that consistency. With players moving out or being sold they are relying on fresh faces and experience with which I feel chances are very low to win a title. Even if they do I would say they are lucky to win the title.
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October 18, 2023, 03:27:24 PM
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I think failing to convince a player to stay is the main reason and not selling them. What if player puts a pressure and declines contract extensions? Then obviously it will be loss for  Dortmund later on as the player will move out for free. I feel that Dortmund should find a good way to convince a plyer to stay as like this they are only waiting for Bayern to become inconsistent in the league and get the title for themselves. Dortmund are just not putting any effort to win the title like this .
I dont agree on that , and Dortmund putting a lot of effort in it to win the title but they doing that on a different way.
For sure they would be have the Money for getting very good players and hold good players , but for how long would this be working ?
Even they lost a lot of very good Players in the last years i think they are on right way and making every season little steps forward to catch up with Munich in league.

i think these efforts are not enough to become german champions. dortmund has been trying for more than a decade . and...it didn't work .
and i could well imagine that it won't work for the next 10 years either.
but funny ! the stadium is always sold out . more fans than in munich . many stars sold for a lot of money. and despite new stars it has never been enough for a title !
maybe the management is not as good as in munich.


source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_football_champions
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October 18, 2023, 03:50:47 PM
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It's not like I wanted to undermine Dortmund at all but I feel that Dortmund also needs to step up their consistency to a level at which Bayern are in. And Dortmund do need strong players to get that consistency. With players moving out or being sold they are relying on fresh faces and experience with which I feel chances are very low to win a title. Even if they do I would say they are lucky to win the title.

With the way Bayern Munich are structured definitely I will agree with you that it will take a bit of luck to get Dortmund to win the title. Last season was their golden opportunity to at least end the yearly dominance and stop the streak Bayern Munich were on and as usual they lack the ability to withstand that pressure just on the last day of the league. If you look properly the league is usually won when you have a very strong and large squad and Dortmund last season had that squad. Although they fell short of winning last season my thought is they will regroup and comeback stronger by adding more players this season but they even ended up letting some of their key players leave, some like Guirreiro to even your biggest rival.

This period is seriously a time when other team will have to dethrone Bayern Munich because if look from last season they are having an internal problem in the team that spans beyond just players and managerial issues but rather a management problem which we saw a very chunk change of directors. This kind of situation is what I want other teams to capitalize on and Only Bayer Leverkusen is doing that at the moment and I hope they go all the way to win it

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October 18, 2023, 04:17:48 PM
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I feel that Dortmund also needs to step up their consistency to a level at which Bayern are in.
And Dortmund do need strong players to get that consistency.
Even if they do I would say they are lucky to win the title.
Yeb you are right , the consistency at Dortmund to the level at which Bayern are is not there right now , or lets say they cant hold the Level for long time.
There a lot of good players that have the Level for doing it but i dont know why they dont cant keep it , best example is Karim Adeyemi , good player but hasnt scored for a while.

i could well imagine that it won't work for the next 10 years either.
maybe the management is not as good as in munich.
I dont agree on that , that this will be dont work for the next years and i will say that they get the title in some of the next years.
Or maybe some Team like Leverkusen but hopefully not Bayern Munich again.

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October 18, 2023, 04:24:47 PM
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There a lot of good players that have the Level for doing it but i dont know why they dont cant keep it , best example is Karim Adeyemi , good player but hasnt scored for a while.

Yes there is a huge pool of talent at Dortmund. Adeyemi is one of them and there are lot others and with proper game time they can develop them at top level. Normally developing a player and developing a squad at optimum level guarantees a title after a while but is it for sure that the player will stay at Dortmund then? There will be lot of clubs who will approach players and some of those clubs will either give them a very lucrative offer or some club will be a dream club to play for for the player. It's hard for a club when it comes to situation like that so I feel that Dortmund should try to fix this.

Only player that has been committed to the club for so long is Marco Reus but except for him I can't name a player who has stayed for long.
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October 18, 2023, 04:40:14 PM
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i could well imagine that it won't work for the next 10 years either.
maybe the management is not as good as in munich.
I dont agree on that , that this will be dont work for the next years and i will say that they get the title in some of the next years.
Or maybe some Team like Leverkusen but hopefully not Bayern Munich again.
But things like this are difficult, at least there must be changes from now on if in the next few seasons there is to be competition for the title because for now Bayern must remain as the strongest candidate every season.
Bayern's current condition is still difficult to deal with the strength of their money and players even though there are some improvements that have occurred from several clubs such as Leverkusen who are currently starting to return to the path they should get but still when the financial conditions and players are not too qualified as Bayern has this will be a little difficult.
The only hope is that Bayern don't have the same good season as last season at least this can add a greater opportunity.

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October 18, 2023, 04:56:53 PM
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Interestingly Union Berlin are shown as the favourite against Stuttgart for the game in three days. I don't see any good reason for this because there is a huge difference between these two teams this season. Union Berlin are going on just horrible. They lost 5 games in a row so far and I can't even imagine how demoralized the players are now.

On the other hand Stuttgart are doing an amazing work. Guirassy has been playing extra as he has scored 13 goals so far. As long as he has a good day in this match as well it will be very difficult for Union Berlin to stop them.
Even though Stuttgart's current performance is very impressive and is in second place in the standings, from the start Stuttgart was a weak team. So it is natural that Union Berlin is the favorite and they will even be the hosts in this match. Union Berlin will definitely still be targeting another win after their last few matches didn't get good results. Union Berlin can return to a positive trend if they can beat Stuttgart and must be reminded again that Stuttagart this season is very different from last season. Of course, the mentality of each player will be at stake in this match and in fact both teams have the same target and definitely don't want to lose a single point.

The odds are something like this, Union Berlin @ 2.50 and Stuttgart @ 2.80. With such a close gap, then for me no one is really the favorite in this match. Although yes, at least Union Berlin is a slight yes, just a slight favorite and such a gap in odds certainly does not guarantee victory for Union Berlin either. But indeed, if I consider the trends for Union Berlin and Stuttgart at this moment, then I think it is clear that Stuttgart is in its best trend. So obviously, the odds that Stuttgart has can also be good odds if we bet on Stuttgart to win in this match.

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October 18, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
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I dont agree on that , that this will be dont work for the next years and i will say that they get the title in some of the next years.
Or maybe some Team like Leverkusen but hopefully not Bayern Munich again.
But things like this are difficult, at least there must be changes from now on if in the next few seasons there is to be competition for the title because for now Bayern must remain as the strongest candidate every season.
Bayern's current condition is still difficult to deal with the strength of their money and players even though there are some improvements that have occurred from several clubs such as Leverkusen who are currently starting to return to the path they should get but still when the financial conditions and players are not too qualified as Bayern has this will be a little difficult.
The only hope is that Bayern don't have the same good season as last season at least this can add a greater opportunity.
A club like Dortmund must change its policy regarding player transfers if it wants to challenge defending champions Bayern Munchen. Because expecting Munchen to have a bad season is not a good idea and we know it is difficult to happen, they have a large budget to strengthen the depth of the squad in each transfer window. I am really looking forward to Xabi Alonso being able to provide a surprise this season to break Munchen dominance, when seeing that their meeting at the Allianz Arena was a draw, it seems that this is very likely to happen this season.

However, apart from Laverkusen increasing performance, other Bundesliga clubs are also worthy enough not to be underestimated. Even though we know that in the end they will also lose points if they meet Bayern Munchen.

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October 18, 2023, 05:24:39 PM
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But things like this are difficult, at least there must be changes from now on if in the next few seasons there is to be competition for the title because for now Bayern must remain as the strongest candidate every season.
Bayern's current condition is still difficult to deal with the strength of their money and players even though there are some improvements that have occurred from several clubs such as Leverkusen who are currently starting to return to the path they should get but still when the financial conditions and players are not too qualified as Bayern has this will be a little difficult.
The only hope is that Bayern don't have the same good season as last season at least this can add a greater opportunity.
A club like Dortmund must change its policy regarding player transfers if it wants to challenge defending champions Bayern Munchen. Because expecting Munchen to have a bad season is not a good idea and we know it is difficult to happen, they have a large budget to strengthen the depth of the squad in each transfer window. I am really looking forward to Xabi Alonso being able to provide a surprise this season to break Munchen dominance, when seeing that their meeting at the Allianz Arena was a draw, it seems that this is very likely to happen this season.

However, apart from Laverkusen increasing performance, other Bundesliga clubs are also worthy enough not to be underestimated. Even though we know that in the end they will also lose points if they meet Bayern Munchen.
Hopefully, there will be changes to this but it will be very difficult for Dortmund to do because if they move out of their comfort zone then indirectly, they will also have to make readjustments about this especially in their financial matters.
Expecting Bayern to have a bad season is indeed something like this is very difficult to realize because indeed this is tantamount to expecting luck to side with clubs other than Bayern but with their current condition especially with their last season which is not very good, Bayern will definitely try to improve their current condition and as you said, it will definitely be difficult for other clubs if in the end they only expect a decline in performance from Bayrern.

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