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December 24, 2022, 08:22:43 AM
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The fact that chelsea are on hunting young talents recently ..

Dortmund must be aware of this and losing a player in short contract left isn't an usual way of dortmund doing the business .. or else chelsea had a new negotiator in action already . Well bundesliga will just like that especially for dortmund who well known rising a lot of youngstar but then can't play longer in bundesliga.
That's the way it is. Dortmund making young players very quickly very good and then selling them for a lot of money. The next record is made with Jude Bellingham. They catch him for 25 million euros in 2020 and the contract goes until 2025. I think there will be very very good offers before and Jude wants return to England at some point, he came from Birmingham City. When you show to Erling Haaland and that he was sold for 60 million euros..., now he is worth 170 million.

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December 24, 2022, 10:17:20 AM
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Bayern Munich has not taken the competition seriously for years. With a team like that you can easily win the title at half strength.
Bayern Munich can still get it right to win this trophy because, we have see some teams like this in other competitions that turn to first position at the end of the tournament which, something like that can still happen in this tournament. Despite their starting in this season look poor, I believe they will do everything possible to work together as a team to make their fans feel good by achieving the trophy with different strategies people have never experience from them since the beginning of this tournament.

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December 24, 2022, 10:24:04 AM
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That's the way it is. Dortmund making young players very quickly very good and then selling them for a lot of money. The next record is made with Jude Bellingham. They catch him for 25 million euros in 2020 and the contract goes until 2025. I think there will be very very good offers before and Jude wants return to England at some point, he came from Birmingham City. When you show to Erling Haaland and that he was sold for 60 million euros..., now he is worth 170 million.
to be honest, i was surprised to see how profitable Dortmund would be when they managed to sell Bellingham which is currently being hunted and is worth a lot
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The 19-year-old player is a graduate of the Birmingham City football academy. Bellingham then accepted Die Borussen's proposal on July 20 2022 with a tag that reportedly reached 25 million euros.
dortmund continues to be successful in running their player buying and selling business, they don't really need a championship, they just need a big profit from selling players, really smart

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December 24, 2022, 10:27:29 AM
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Youssoufa Moukoko is Chelsea's target for this transfer. The contract for this young player who has collected 6 goals and 6 assists during the league period has not yet been renewed (Refused a contract extension) and of course this is a big gap for Chelsea to enter to take him. although there will likely be more drama for Dortmund than for Jude Bellingham now. But if indeed the midfielders and strikers from Dortmund are allowed to leave, it is clear that it will be even more difficult to navigate the current season in the Bundesliga.

Every club wants such a young and talented player. I think it is interesting that his contract has not been renewed, as far as I know this player loves Dortmund and strives for the success of his team. However, since the contract has not been extended, he either wants too much money or to go to another club.
There are rumors that he will play for teams such as Chelsea and Barcelona. I think it's too early to talk about which team he will go to

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December 24, 2022, 10:33:03 AM
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Despite so many rumours about MU and Liverpool will be hijacking moukoko from chelsea but chelsea was still leading the way as the player itself rejected to renew the contract caused by he has not got what he wants. Moukoko was only willing to extend the contract if he was paid 8 million euros instead of 6 million euros that being offered by dortmund. Chelsea has said that if the club will paid him with that salary if he will be joining in the club. Moukoko will be giving guarantee by chelsea to be included in the starting line up.
I hope that moukoko will try to decide his future by moving to the chelsea as a new team. Chelsea didn't have good striker in the clubs.
The potentiality of Moukoko is very high but he has yet matured enough and has yet fulpy developed his skills.
Buying him especially with high cost at the moment is very very risky.
I think that was not a problem. Chelsea has been buying aubameyang from barcelona by exchanging marcos alonso with him but how old he was didn't determine how good he is in the premier league. I think that you shall aware if aubameyang rarely make goal. that proves that if age is not everything right now. As long as a player can suit with the team and moukoko can perform so well with chelsea.
Young players are more vulnerable to pressure and things beyind football. They can lose themselves anytime if theyblose interest and focus in football. Many players lost their future after a big transfer, receiving very high salary and never able to come back.

It is more wisely for big clubs, not only Chelsea to wait a two or three more seasons, to assess how Moukoko continues his career before spending money for Dortmund and give Moukoko a great offer.
What when another club was taking him and he will be playing so well with his new club. that means if chelsea will be losing an opportunity to get valuable asset for long term. I think that buying the player is just like gambling.

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December 24, 2022, 10:36:29 AM
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I don't have any expectation from Schalke. Because they don't give green light even for a small amount of time. They are still the same horrible team comparing their current performance to the one they relegated from the Bundesliga. They weren't like this in the 2nd Bundesliga of course. There weren't this much big teams there maybe but it was still a hope for the supporters.

But here we are. They will most likely be relegating from the league once again. Schalke just need a full renovation otherwise I don't think anything will change.

for them to make a big reform in the team they would need a big amount of money, so I think that at the moment they don't have that much money needed to make big reforms in the team, but they can try to minimize bad performance by creating good strategies that allow them to have at least points, they could strive to beat the weak teams that are close to the relegation zone and try to play for a draw when they are playing against strong teams, for this to work it is necessary that they have a good strategist coach

also the players need to be more motivated in each game, many times the players when they are in that situation start and make an effort individually to call the attention of other teams to sign them and leave the team that is very close to being relegated, the first division players they don't want to play in the second division, that's a setback in their career when that happens, all players want to play in big teams and win big things to have their names etched in history

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December 24, 2022, 10:56:00 AM
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Is there any point in not giving Sven Ulreich a chance to show his best. Neuer himself also started as an assistant to another goalkeeper, and you can agree with me that a club will hardly buy a second keeper from another club if he is not given chance to show his ability. Ulreich led bayern Munich to the DFB pokal 2017-2018 tournament which they lose to Eintracht Frankfurt in the final. To me, Ulreich experience is good enough to save the team at this point.
with Neuer injured, of course, Bayern will now rely on Ulreich's skills. this season he has just played 3 times in the Bundesliga and 3 times in the UCL.
Ulreich had very few chances to play. but that is another option from Munich for the goalkeeping position. There have been many rumors of names being targeted by Munich, but that has yet to be confirmed. maybe Munich will consider using Ulreich for a long time. or instead will look for a new goalkeeper. see predictions from Neuer's severe injury which of course will take a long time to recover.

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December 24, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
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Youssoufa Moukoko is Chelsea's target for this transfer. The contract for this young player who has collected 6 goals and 6 assists during the league period has not yet been renewed (Refused a contract extension) and of course this is a big gap for Chelsea to enter to take him. although there will likely be more drama for Dortmund than for Jude Bellingham now. But if indeed the midfielders and strikers from Dortmund are allowed to leave, it is clear that it will be even more difficult to navigate the current season in the Bundesliga.

Every club wants such a young and talented player. I think it is interesting that his contract has not been renewed, as far as I know this player loves Dortmund and strives for the success of his team. However, since the contract has not been extended, he either wants too much money or to go to another club.
There are rumors that he will play for teams such as Chelsea and Barcelona. I think it's too early to talk about which team he will go to
What can be expected from Borussia Dortmund, which is always selling its potential young players? I also feel that they will do the same with players who have the potential that they have now. It doesn't matter that they say "we are not interested in selling our players" because I know in the end they will still take advantage of selling their players too. Things that will be made as if they will keep their players, but they are not.

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December 24, 2022, 12:52:15 PM
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Bayern Munich can still get it right to win this trophy because, we have see some teams like this in other competitions that turn to first position at the end of the tournament which, something like that can still happen in this tournament. Despite their starting in this season look poor, I believe they will do everything possible to work together as a team to make their fans feel good by achieving the trophy with different strategies people have never experience from them since the beginning of this tournament.
Actually, when talking about the right to get a trophy this season in the Bundesliga, all teams have the same rights as long as they are still within the scope of the Bundesliga. But because all the teams in the Bundesliga do not have the same level of strength as Bayern Munich, it is clear that this season it is still very possible for Bayern Munich to win another trophy. This is due to the level of consistency and the best players are not in all teams so that Bayern Munich is still the favorite in getting the trophy this season.
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December 24, 2022, 01:04:41 PM
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Bayern Munich can still get it right to win this trophy because, we have see some teams like this in other competitions that turn to first position at the end of the tournament which, something like that can still happen in this tournament. Despite their starting in this season look poor, I believe they will do everything possible to work together as a team to make their fans feel good by achieving the trophy with different strategies people have never experience from them since the beginning of this tournament.
Actually, when talking about the right to get a trophy this season in the Bundesliga, all teams have the same rights as long as they are still within the scope of the Bundesliga. But because all the teams in the Bundesliga do not have the same level of strength as Bayern Munich, it is clear that this season it is still very possible for Bayern Munich to win another trophy. This is due to the level of consistency and the best players are not in all teams so that Bayern Munich is still the favorite in getting the trophy this season.
I think with the current conditions, I actually still feel that even if what you say is true, everyone has the same rights, but the opportunities are clearly different.
It's like giving hope in vain because of course in the end the cup will return to Bayern's usual place no matter what even if it says equal opportunity but actually it's very different and it's just a competition but without competition.

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December 24, 2022, 01:37:25 PM
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It's always what Dortmund is known for; I'm not sure why they don't keep players for long; once a player expresses an interest in leaving the team, they just let him go without considering how the fans will feel or the team's performance.

That's how they let their best striker, Erling Haaland, leave last season, and now they've lost form because they're not competitive this season, so instead of buying more players, they want to sell more.

This is the business model of Dortmund. And I can't say that they "just let go" of the players - they make money on these transfers. Now they have another star for sale - Bellingham, the contract with him is signed until 2026 and the club that wants to buy him will be forced to pay good money for him.

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December 24, 2022, 02:29:39 PM
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Youssoufa Moukoko is Chelsea's target for this transfer. The contract for this young player who has collected 6 goals and 6 assists during the league period has not yet been renewed (Refused a contract extension) and of course this is a big gap for Chelsea to enter to take him. although there will likely be more drama for Dortmund than for Jude Bellingham now. But if indeed the midfielders and strikers from Dortmund are allowed to leave, it is clear that it will be even more difficult to navigate the current season in the Bundesliga.

Youssoufa Moukoko was once a target of Ten Hag as the team's need for a center forward crisis. The Red Devils could also try to land him for a knockdown fee in January, but Dortmund may reject the sale. the reason is, he can be the key to their Champions League qualification. However, on the other hand, there are rumors that Youssoufa Maukoko is reluctant to extend his contract with Dortmund.

Plettenberg has now revealed that Chelsea and other top clubs are ready to take the next step if Maukoko chooses to leave. however, there has been no official news related to this young Dortmund striker. and if Maukoko leaves in January, it will clearly be a loss for Dortmund to target its mission of finishing in the top four of the Bundesliga. after all, one of their midfielders Jude Billingham seems to be on Dortmund's sale list in the upcoming January transfer window. thus, it seems difficult for Dortmund to compete in the Champions League later against Chelsea. however, this is how Dortmund do business.
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December 24, 2022, 04:09:46 PM
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Actually, when talking about the right to get a trophy this season in the Bundesliga, all teams have the same rights as long as they are still within the scope of the Bundesliga. But because all the teams in the Bundesliga do not have the same level of strength as Bayern Munich, it is clear that this season it is still very possible for Bayern Munich to win another trophy. This is due to the level of consistency and the best players are not in all teams so that Bayern Munich is still the favorite in getting the trophy this season.
I think with the current conditions, I actually still feel that even if what you say is true, everyone has the same rights, but the opportunities are clearly different.
It's like giving hope in vain because of course in the end the cup will return to Bayern's usual place no matter what even if it says equal opportunity but actually it's very different and it's just a competition but without competition.
Bayern is a rich team that remains consistent with the good performances they display, besides that they are not afraid to buy the expensive players they want because their goal is victory, different from other Bundesliga teams who are hesitant to buy players and only focus on their old squad. bayern will always be the bundesliga champion and other teams will only enliven the bundesliga competition.
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December 24, 2022, 04:30:06 PM
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It's always what Dortmund is known for; I'm not sure why they don't keep players for long; once a player expresses an interest in leaving the team, they just let him go without considering how the fans will feel or the team's performance.

That's how they let their best striker, Erling Haaland, leave last season, and now they've lost form because they're not competitive this season, so instead of buying more players, they want to sell more.

This is the business model of Dortmund. And I can't say that they "just let go" of the players - they make money on these transfers. Now they have another star for sale - Bellingham, the contract with him is signed until 2026 and the club that wants to buy him will be forced to pay good money for him.
yep, Dortmund's classic method has always worked and indeed not a few clubs have done this with them, especially those who really want to bring in Dortmund's players and it's not impossible for Jude Bellingham to be like that either.
It is difficult to let go of this condition from Dortmund, especially since they have been faced with conditions like this too often, so it is not too surprising that in the end Jude left with quite fantastic sales, like young players who had left before.

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December 24, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
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Youssoufa Moukoko is Chelsea's target for this transfer. The contract for this young player who has collected 6 goals and 6 assists during the league period has not yet been renewed (Refused a contract extension) and of course this is a big gap for Chelsea to enter to take him. although there will likely be more drama for Dortmund than for Jude Bellingham now. But if indeed the midfielders and strikers from Dortmund are allowed to leave, it is clear that it will be even more difficult to navigate the current season in the Bundesliga.
Despite so many rumours about MU and Liverpool will be hijacking moukoko from chelsea but chelsea was still leading the way as the player itself rejected to renew the contract caused by he has not got what he wants. Moukoko was only willing to extend the contract if he was paid 8 million euros instead of 6 million euros that being offered by dortmund. Chelsea has said that if the club will paid him with that salary if he will be joining in the club. Moukoko will be giving guarantee by chelsea to be included in the starting line up.
I hope that moukoko will try to decide his future by moving to the chelsea as a new team. Chelsea didn't have good striker in the clubs.
I just found out about Liverpool and Manchester United wanting this player.
But indeed the problem of salary is still a consideration, even though if Dortmund still wants to restrain himself I think this must be resolved quickly. When an offer like this happens for Chelsea I don't think Chelsea will have any objections to meeting Moukoko's salary demands. Apart from that, Chelsea will definitely make guarantees for key players for Moukoko because in any case their current strikers are still having a lot of trouble with goal productivity.
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December 24, 2022, 05:52:56 PM
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PSV's Gapo is also being hunted from the EPL. And the coach of United, would like to have Gakpo, but on the other hand does not want to go into detail. Maybe he doesn't want to drive the price up unnecessarily that way? United will probably get more players, but where is the limit somewhere in what they can and may buy? They can just keep buying whatever they want. Not to mention that they also brought in Casemiro about 1.5 months ago. At what position should they get even more players?

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December 24, 2022, 06:23:58 PM
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It's always what Dortmund is known for; I'm not sure why they don't keep players for long; once a player expresses an interest in leaving the team, they just let him go without considering how the fans will feel or the team's performance.

That's how they let their best striker, Erling Haaland, leave last season, and now they've lost form because they're not competitive this season, so instead of buying more players, they want to sell more.

This is the way Dortmund do things, if a player doesn't want to play for them anymore I think they are thinking that player would surely have a hardtime playing and will surely make mistakes because he doesn't have that urge in continuing anymore so he likely Dortmund will need to eventually cut their ties on them, and getting large money over that player's sale, well Dortmund is pretty much well known in doing such things when certain players would have a large value in them it is an opportunity for them to cash in big amounts,


Bayern Munich can still get it right to win this trophy because, we have see some teams like this in other competitions that turn to first position at the end of the tournament which, something like that can still happen in this tournament. Despite their starting in this season look poor, I believe they will do everything possible to work together as a team to make their fans feel good by achieving the trophy with different strategies people have never experience from them since the beginning of this tournament.

They can surely get it right, I think they got plenty of time to settle their score to get themselves a goalkeeper to fit the shoe of Manuel Neuer, and in Sadio Mane's case I think they need to hold on until Mane returns from his injuries, but surely there is no given time of his return so it's likely not a serious one, and may return anytime the season starts back up again, and maybe they can still hold on even with Leroy Sane as their Winger, and Sarge Gnabry will likely be another while Choupo Moting and Jamal Musiala for additional offense, I think they can still handle the situation at hand,
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Actually, when talking about the right to get a trophy this season in the Bundesliga, all teams have the same rights as long as they are still within the scope of the Bundesliga. But because all the teams in the Bundesliga do not have the same level of strength as Bayern Munich, it is clear that this season it is still very possible for Bayern Munich to win another trophy. This is due to the level of consistency and the best players are not in all teams so Bayern Munich is still the favorite in getting the trophy this season.

Bayern is a rich team that remains consistent with the good performances they display, besides that they are not afraid to buy the expensive players they want because their goal is victory, different from other Bundesliga teams who are hesitant to buy players and only focus on their old squad. Bayern will always be the Bundesliga champions and other teams will only enliven the Bundesliga competition.

Sometimes it doesn't only depend on being a favorite, it also depends on the ability to adapt to new changes. A team may grow because all the arms that make up the team are productive, but in a long run, when any arm falls short of what it is expected of, the whole team falls. Like in the case of Bayern, until I see their performance without Neuer, I wouldn't say that they are already the favorite team for the Bundesliga title, especially now that Freiburg is still bent on doing. Moreover, Bayern is 4 points only ahead of Freiburg.
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December 24, 2022, 07:05:02 PM
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Is there any point in not giving Sven Ulreich a chance to show his best. Neuer himself also started as an assistant to another goalkeeper, and you can agree with me that a club will hardly buy a second keeper from another club if he is not given chance to show his ability. Ulreich led bayern Munich to the DFB pokal 2017-2018 tournament which they lose to Eintracht Frankfurt in the final. To me, Ulreich experience is good enough to save the team at this point.
with Neuer injured, of course, Bayern will now rely on Ulreich's skills. this season he has just played 3 times in the Bundesliga and 3 times in the UCL.
Ulreich had very few chances to play. but that is another option from Munich for the goalkeeping position. There have been many rumors of names being targeted by Munich, but that has yet to be confirmed. maybe Munich will consider using Ulreich for a long time. or instead will look for a new goalkeeper. see predictions from Neuer's severe injury which of course will take a long time to recover.
I would guess that it is not going to really break the team. I understand that it would be better to have Neuer defending the post, that would give the Bayern fans a bit more ease of mind, but I am guessing they are good enough that they wouldn't really need another goalkeeper to be as good as him. They would rather have Neuer back, but even with Ulreich they should be as good as it could be. That's the type of thing that we should be looking for, nothing else and that should help everyone as much as possible.

The greatest thing is the fact that we wouldn't be able to actually run the rest of the team down a list and see one other weak spot, so 10/11 should be fine.

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December 24, 2022, 07:11:23 PM
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PSV's Gapo is also being hunted from the EPL. And the coach of United, would like to have Gakpo, but on the other hand does not want to go into detail. Maybe he doesn't want to drive the price up unnecessarily that way? United will probably get more players, but where is the limit somewhere in what they can and may buy? They can just keep buying whatever they want. Not to mention that they also brought in Casemiro about 1.5 months ago. At what position should they get even more players?

I would guess that Manchester United is not happy at all that Cody Gakpo is now in the focus of many big clubs after his performances during the World cup, because i think that Manchester United is observing Gakpo since way before the world cup started. The coach of Manchester United is Erik ten Hag and he was coaching in the dutch eredivise until the end of last season, so i am pretty sure that ten Hag already knows Gakpo quite well for a few years now at least.
Now that other clubs may also want to get Gakpo it could become really hard for ManU to get him. After all ManU is not one of the best clubs in Europe anymore.
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