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December 29, 2022, 08:29:25 PM
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Other clubs do not have that luxury and are therefore often left behind.
Dortmund received a lot of money for Haaland, but what did they finally get for reinforcements?
Dortmund received for sure a lot of Money from the Haaland transfer and what they did was buying the player Sebastien Haller.
Sadly his injury with cancer was just detected after the transfer was accomplished and finished.
That player is missing in Dortmund and i guess they would be played better with him.

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December 29, 2022, 09:16:25 PM
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I really wish to see some competition in the Bundesliga but I know that I'm just deceiving myself on one hand.  Smiley

Because this has been the same for 10 seasons and it is likely to be another 10-year time period now. As long as we don't see any other team (except Dortmund) being bought by a billionaire, there is no hope for a new challenger to come out and fight with Bayern Munich hard for the league title. I'm really frustrated with Dortmund actually about this topic. They have such an amazing potential as they are a rich team. But just this business model is killing all the fun we could have.

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December 29, 2022, 09:18:06 PM
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I still regret Union Berlin's declining performance and not being able to maintain its position for a long time. However, if we look at Union Berlin's journey since promotion to the Bundesliga in the 2019/2020 season, their journey in the highest German football caste can be said to be increasing from year to year. Unlike other promoted clubs that cannot survive, they can even be said to be passing by because in the following season they have to be relegated again. So maybe it's natural that they can't last long at the top of the standings because their mentality isn't fully built to withstand any pressure.
There is no doubt about the performance of Union Berlin in last few seasons as they are giving in Bundesliga it's all amazing with in this season they were at the top until 10 rounds which was also impressive, but suddenly they lost 3 matches and all against weaker sides this was surely sad point because with this now they are at the fifth place with most chances they can improve their performance after break which will help them for having better spot even now things are looking not easy because all top ranks teams are giving their best which is surely going to be amazing because Freiburg, Leipzig and Frankfurt all are having better quality and their performance is also at their best from next half of the season they have to do more than their potential if they want to take back good spot until end of this season.

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December 29, 2022, 09:33:53 PM
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I still regret Union Berlin's declining performance and not being able to maintain its position for a long time. However, if we look at Union Berlin's journey since promotion to the Bundesliga in the 2019/2020 season, their journey in the highest German football caste can be said to be increasing from year to year. Unlike other promoted clubs that cannot survive, they can even be said to be passing by because in the following season they have to be relegated again. So maybe it's natural that they can't last long at the top of the standings because their mentality isn't fully built to withstand any pressure.
even when they get promoted, they can finish mid-table. a great achievement. and consistently they can show a decent performance.
unfortunately this season they finally had enough trouble with the domination of Munich which returned to the top of the standings. however, there is still no strong club in the Bundesliga that can beat Munich. even Dortmund is currently also having trouble catching up with Munich. I hope that Leipzig or Freiburg can be consistent and continue to put pressure on Munich. Bundesliga fans certainly want to see a much more competitive League than last season.
I still hope they continue their form like last season when they started to be consistent in their domestic league but now things are a little different. Busy schedule because they are in the Europa League destroyed their consistency. Currently, Union is still unable to maintain fitness so that the players are not in a fit condition due to fatigue with the many schedules that are certain, this will greatly affect their performance.

Bayern's dominance is not in question because in any case they are still a club with a different level of condition in the bundesliga but for a club like Union to actually finish in the Europa League position or beyond that of course it will lift them up financially.

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December 29, 2022, 09:44:42 PM
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Perhaps the biggest problem is the financial situation and differences between Bayern Munich and other clubs. By having good management for years and years, they have a healthy bank account and can actually buy and sell whatever they want. Rarely do you see bad buys at Bayern. Almost all the players who have passed them have become very good. And if you have a sound financial policy that results in a high bank account, it is also easier to build in stability by attracting experienced and good players. Other clubs do not have that luxury and are therefore often left behind. Dortmund received a lot of money for Haaland, but what did they finally get for reinforcements?
Bayern Munich is surely one of the best business models in the sporting world with their sources and facilities which are giving them quality and consistency in their long run performance in the UEFA it's not happened in one or two years they have done good and long run planning then management able to have system like this right now we have no other club in Germany which can do things like these, but I check few details about clubs with this I have feeling Freiburg management is also doing things like these even this will take time, but surely they can do and this could be game changer for them in long run.

Borussia Dortmund is another club which had potential but things never been ideal for them because as they have big amounted they start journey for the new players and their team's moral never been on same level.

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December 29, 2022, 10:08:11 PM
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Other clubs do not have that luxury and are therefore often left behind.
Dortmund received a lot of money for Haaland, but what did they finally get for reinforcements?
Dortmund received for sure a lot of Money from the Haaland transfer and what they did was buying the player Sebastien Haller.
Sadly his injury with cancer was just detected after the transfer was accomplished and finished.
That player is missing in Dortmund and i guess they would be played better with him.
Without any doubt this was really setback for them in this season because no one was having any thought about this injury but now in coming transfer window they can do something better for themselves because time is running out and competition is tough which need quick action otherwise most chances they can drop from top four spots which could be bigger setback with right now we have few teams which are doing good job and have quality and consistency in performance for the staying at top level.

Even now I have feeling Leipzig and Freiburg both can challenge Bayern Munich for the title race as well because right now these both teams are having balanced players and their level is also amazing which can create problems for the leader in coming days.

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December 29, 2022, 10:13:09 PM
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I still regret Union Berlin's declining performance and not being able to maintain its position for a long time. However, if we look at Union Berlin's journey since promotion to the Bundesliga in the 2019/2020 season, their journey in the highest German football caste can be said to be increasing from year to year. Unlike other promoted clubs that cannot survive, they can even be said to be passing by because in the following season they have to be relegated again. So maybe it's natural that they can't last long at the top of the standings because their mentality isn't fully built to withstand any pressure.
even when they get promoted, they can finish mid-table. a great achievement. and consistently they can show a decent performance.
unfortunately this season they finally had enough trouble with the domination of Munich which returned to the top of the standings. however, there is still no strong club in the Bundesliga that can beat Munich. even Dortmund is currently also having trouble catching up with Munich. I hope that Leipzig or Freiburg can be consistent and continue to put pressure on Munich. Bundesliga fans certainly want to see a much more competitive League than last season.
It seems that Union Berlin cannot be underestimated this season, even though they have just been promoted but they can give a pretty great performance. It is undeniable that in one or two more seasons they can be in the top 4 of the bundesliga standings. But so far they only need 1 win to occupy 2nd place in the standings, if their rivals SC Freiburg, RB Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt lose in their next match. But it must be admitted that the team competition in the Bundesliga this season is very exciting, even though the distance from the top standings is not that far away.
Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.

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December 29, 2022, 10:28:28 PM
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Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig.

Union Berlin is really a surprising team. I had thought they would be more in the midfield this year. Although they finished at place 5 last season. I thought that the triple burden would be too much. But they proved me wrong.
I saw Freiburg on the other hand exactly where they are right now. They have become more consistent in the last few years and now belong in the top 5.
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December 29, 2022, 11:06:08 PM
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I also hope so but with the current condition of the clubs in the Bundesliga it is actually very difficult to realize that. Bayern are still too strong for them but compared to expectations that are not too certain at least I hope there is competition here because indeed in the last few seasons it has been very rare for a club to keep up with them and Bayern have won so easily.
In the past, Bayern had Dortmund as quite a strong competitor in the Bundesliga. But in the past few seasons, Dortmund has not seemed as good as it used to be. Even this season, they have not been able to recover from some of their game slumps. Freiburg may be Bayern's strongest competitor at the moment, but we also know that Bayern's strength is far above it. So, we could say that Bayern might dominate again this season.

For the first match after the World Cup, Bayern vs Leipzig will open a very interesting and big game. Leipzig might be considered to be in a very difficult position because if they lose to Bayern, their position may be replaced by Frankfurt or Berlin in third place.
Until now the word Rival for them still drags on for everyone but seeing the conditions not only in the last few seasons but maybe almost in the 10th of this season as long as Bayern won the championship only a few times Dortmund stuck with close points, the rest there is nothing surprising because Bayern always superior with quite large points in terms of gaps.
For Bayern's Bundesliga with Leipzig this is still a Big Match but Bayern's chance is still very big and seeing that Frankfurt will face Schalke who is currently at the bottom of the standings I think Frankfurt's chance to win a position is still very big.

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Bayern Munich are entitled with good start-up youngsters who are confident on the pitch. The team scouts did a very good job to pick out Jamal Musiala and he's keyplayer for Julian Nagelsmann project. Jamal Musiala is the best young player in the team with good footings with the ball and also speedy on the pitch. Bayern Munich are eager to prepare new contract for the 19 years old, current contract expires in June 2026, but the Bavarians targeting to seal a fresh new lengthy deal agreement for the superb teen.
Yes, I am personally quite surprised by Jamal Musiala this season, because at his young age, Jamal Musiala has shown his great potential so far. Also, even though Jamal Musiala is not a striker but Jamal Musiala has a very good goal tally so far for Bayern Munich of course.
But if I consider the top scorers so far in the Bundesliga, then at least we will get them also still young, the average is still 25 years or at least under 30 years.

That way, it looks like the teams in the Bundesliga do have young players which of course will be good for making the team regenerate quickly.
But if Bayern Munich does move quickly to sign a new contract for Jamal Musiala, then it's something great for a young player like Jamal Musiala. Because even though his current contract is still quite long, it seems that Bayern Munich really has a special eye on Jamal Musiala so they are willing to make a new contract for Jamal Musiala.

^^ There has always been a great deal of interest in young players at Bayern Munich. We have seen this behavior from them for a long time now. Their interest and enthusiasm is not very high when it comes to old players who might have a successful record or might be considered one of the leading players in the world. As we all know, Robert Lewandowski was just sold by them. There are some football clubs that keep all of their players on the team, but they are not like that. It is always in the back of the team's mind to bring in youngsters and to make sure that they do well with them. And I think this club is in good hands with the type of young players that they have in the team. As far as I am concerned, I will say that Bayern Munich's future does seem to be well secured at the moment.


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December 30, 2022, 01:32:30 AM
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Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.
For the first half of the Bundesliga it looks competitive in terms of competition from each team, but for the second half it still can't be said to be competitive because the matches haven't started yet. Now for Dortmund itself actually the team would be good if they didn't often sell the best players to other clubs, because Dortmund only needed to change the concept by targeting victory and champions in the competition without thinking about how much money they could get by selling the best players to other teams.

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December 30, 2022, 02:20:07 AM
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For the first half of the Bundesliga it looks competitive in terms of competition from each team, but for the second half it still can't be said to be competitive because the matches haven't started yet. Now for Dortmund itself actually the team would be good if they didn't often sell the best players to other clubs, because Dortmund only needed to change the concept by targeting victory and champions in the competition without thinking about how much money they could get by selling the best players to other teams.
In second half of season, teams usually have more problems than in a first half. Especially in this season with World Cup 2022 was hosted in middle of season that causes players more tired, exhausted and they might have more injuries in rest of the season. Even if they won't get injuries, they will have less energetic performances and likely worse quality in their performances.

Small teams have less players participated in World Cup 2022 so they will have better preparation for second half of season. Bigger teams will have to face with player exhaustion, injuries in second half and combine these things, for me it is hard to say how Bundesliga will end in this season.

I am expecting to see many surprises in a second half.

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~snipe~
I saw Freiburg on the other hand exactly where they are right now. They have become more consistent in the last few years and now belong in the top 5.

freiburg .yes this club surprises me every year. the new players they get every year is amazing .
i never heard these names before and suddenly they are playing in the national team . freiburg has a good coach and a good management.
that's why they are so successful every year !
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December 30, 2022, 05:12:18 AM
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Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.
For the first half of the Bundesliga it looks competitive in terms of competition from each team, but for the second half it still can't be said to be competitive because the matches haven't started yet. Now for Dortmund itself actually the team would be good if they didn't often sell the best players to other clubs, because Dortmund only needed to change the concept by targeting victory and champions in the competition without thinking about how much money they could get by selling the best players to other teams.
The club like berlin has been struggling with its performance. I would like to say that if starte from the middle of season and the trophy will be winning by bayern munich. It can be seen from the statistic and rotation that happened in anyother team that compete in the bundesliga. There are lots of change happeened with some clubs like dortmund and leipzig. Frankfurt was also performing so well but when we are seeing from the history and then bayern is dominating everything started from middle until end of season. No doubt if the early season became very attractive caused by some clubs were able to be the same like bayern but not for now until the end of season. Bayern is still above the competitors. there's no chance for competitor to take the trophy for the current season from bayern

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December 30, 2022, 08:59:38 AM
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even when they get promoted, they can finish mid-table. a great achievement. and consistently they can show a decent performance.
unfortunately this season they finally had enough trouble with the domination of Munich which returned to the top of the standings. however, there is still no strong club in the Bundesliga that can beat Munich. even Dortmund is currently also having trouble catching up with Munich. I hope that Leipzig or Freiburg can be consistent and continue to put pressure on Munich. Bundesliga fans certainly want to see a much more competitive League than last season.

I think that they will be consistent with different teams but with Bayern Munich, this will be a problem for them because of the dominance Bayern has shown likely this January the start of a new matchday we could see if Leipzig and Freiburg can surely put up a fight and bring some new gameplay on the table against Bayern Munich because if not this is fairly Bayern Munich championship era once again,


It would be a mistake to criticize that they bought talented players and sold them for high sums, many clubs set themselves this goal and failed. But I want Dortmund to be a championship oriented club, not just a club that finds and sells talented players. They've been doing this for a while, but now they're a long way from that image. I can't say anything if Dortmund's aim is just to sell players and make a profit. But I think Dortmund is more than that.

Well, sad to say but many have known Dortmund for doing such things if they are a championship-oriented club or team, they wouldn't let Erling Halland out of the team, and they could surely subdue a great offer for him because we all know how a great asset Erling Halland can become and with Jamal Musiala I think they can conquer the Bundesliga now that Lewandowski is out of the picture, but sad to say I really don't see Dortmund Standing as a champion for the Bundesliga is even the 2nd spot of the standings I can not really see Dortmund in that aswell,
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December 30, 2022, 09:23:54 AM
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I really wish to see some competition in the Bundesliga but I know that I'm just deceiving myself on one hand.  Smiley

Because this has been the same for 10 seasons and it is likely to be another 10-year time period now. As long as we don't see any other team (except Dortmund) being bought by a billionaire, there is no hope for a new challenger to come out and fight with Bayern Munich hard for the league title. I'm really frustrated with Dortmund actually about this topic. They have such an amazing potential as they are a rich team. But just this business model is killing all the fun we could have.

I agree with you that the German league has become very stale and it is only played to see by how many points Bayern Munich will win the league this time. This has been the case for the past 10 years as they have won every single season and in addition to that, they have even won the local league cups as well.

I agree with you that unless a billionaire buys the club, Bayern Munich will be the undisputed champions for the foreseeable future which is pretty sad. Another thing is that Bayern Munich tends to buy star players from the opposing teams which also cripples them to climb up the table.

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December 30, 2022, 09:42:21 AM
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I really wish to see some competition in the Bundesliga but I know that I'm just deceiving myself on one hand.  Smiley

Because this has been the same for 10 seasons and it is likely to be another 10-year time period now. As long as we don't see any other team (except Dortmund) being bought by a billionaire, there is no hope for a new challenger to come out and fight with Bayern Munich hard for the league title. I'm really frustrated with Dortmund actually about this topic. They have such an amazing potential as they are a rich team. But just this business model is killing all the fun we could have.

I agree with you that the German league has become very stale and it is only played to see by how many points Bayern Munich will win the league this time. This has been the case for the past 10 years as they have won every single season and in addition to that, they have even won the local league cups as well.

I agree with you that unless a billionaire buys the club, Bayern Munich will be the undisputed champions for the foreseeable future which is pretty sad. Another thing is that Bayern Munich tends to buy star players from the opposing teams which also cripples them to climb up the table.

In fact, if Dortmund can retain all its star players so far, then surely Dortmund will be able to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the Budesliga. Even though for the past ten years Bayern Munich have still dominated, I think with competition for the top four, at least the Bundesliga can still be enjoyed.
Because you have views about them too, I'm sure you also still follow developments that are happening in the Bundesliga, meaning you don't forget or don't completely ignore them.

So yes, we also can't do anything other than just watching and also betting on matches in the Bundesliga. Because we have also realized that Dortmund is only a business team as it seems, Dortmund does not have a strong target to be able to end Bayern Munich's dominance.
Because if Dortmund really has the main priority to win the Bundesliga title and to end Bayern Munich's dominance, then of course Dortmund will try hard by not selling the star players they often have.

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December 30, 2022, 10:15:44 AM
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I agree with you that the German league has become very stale and it is only played to see by how many points Bayern Munich will win the league this time. This has been the case for the past 10 years as they have won every single season and in addition to that, they have even won the local league cups as well.

I agree with you that unless a billionaire buys the club, Bayern Munich will be the undisputed champions for the foreseeable future which is pretty sad. Another thing is that Bayern Munich tends to buy star players from the opposing teams which also cripples them to climb up the table.

Yes, but if it's a local billionaire. As far as I know, the 50+1 rule implemented by the German Football League (DFL) in 1998, which means that 51% of club shares can be owned by fans. while the role of external investors is limited, they may not own more than 49% of the shares. however, we have to look at the fact that the 50+1 rule doesn't help many certain clubs. some have greater capital requirements than others, let's call it Bayern Munich. so that's why the Bundesliga is always dominated by Bayern Munich, which has a very large financial compared to other clubs.

I don't know if these rules have been changed or not, at least some proposals a few years ago to change the rules that made the Bundisliga no longer competitive. but in fact, several clubs could compete with Bayern Munich, such as Bayern Leverkusen, RB Leipzig, even Wolfsburg. different from other clubs which are sports associations.

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December 30, 2022, 11:04:54 AM
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Bayer Leverkusen have been on the rise in the Bundesliga for a few weeks. They have won their last three matches and maintained a good win streak. Xabi Alonso's arrival made a really good impact on the team for now. This is more than I expected from him because I thought that they would continue to have problems for some time more. However we still need to see their effort in the remaining matches. Being consistent in the long run is the most important thing for finishing the season at a decent position.

Leverkusen still have qualified players. They just weren't in a good mental condition before. This was affecting their performance in a bad way. Now they can use this winning streak to their advantage to solve this issue. There is a 9-point gap with top 4 now maybe but it isn't a gap that can't be closed. But their job is of course very difficult.

The problem of such gaps is not in the number of points to the desired place (4th), but in the number of teams that need to be overtaken. In this case it is 8 teams. I think the chances of Bayer this season to get a ticket to the Champions League are close to zero. Even if all these 8 teams started on equal terms, Bayer would have a 15-20% chance of defeating all of them, but with such a lag, this is unrealistic.

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December 30, 2022, 11:59:26 AM
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Bundesliga is so competitive this season. Union Berlin and Freiburg are the most surprising team so far. One wouldn't think they will go that far in the Bundesliga. It has always been Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig. The most shocking of all is Dortmund who seems to have flipped out from the top 4 zones. BVB needs to do something in other to change this current situation. It wouldn't be nice to see them miss out on the champion league race next season.
It looks like this season will provide new surprises for several clubs who are in their best form. There is no doubt that this season or next season clubs like Union Berlin and Sc Freiburg will continue to dominate the bundesliga. The UCL zone seems to have started to change and this now belongs to another club, we know Dortmund really dominated with Bayern Munich like the previous season, but it seems that Dortmund will have a little trouble this season to reach the top 4 of the standings.

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