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September 19, 2023, 06:22:38 PM
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In this case I do not think that Leverkusen's strength is the same as Bayern because however their conditions remain different in terms of strength and in terms of players, it's just that for management and performance this season Leverkusen is indeed very good and this is what makes them strong even with players who are in fact below Bayern.
You are very correct to say Leverkusen does not match Munich in strength, Yes they may be showing some brilliant performance recently which is very commendable and worth considering as growth on the side of Leverkusen but it's not enough to jump into conclusion to say they now match strength with Munich as Munich is far more ahead of them.

Munich has maintained a status that would require a lot of hard work by Leverkusen to unseat them their position as the champion and giant of bundesliga over the years. Munich still have all it's players intact and inform let's not forget so quickly. Leverkusen tho if consistent with their performance in no time they may build a team good enough to contend with Munich.

But then I must say Leverkusen is doing great and its worth the applaud even tho they are yet to attain that height were they can be comfortably compared to the bigger boys in the league but hopefully they will get there soonest if consistency if maintained, but for now Munich remains undoubtedly the giant of the German bundesliga until they get a better contender.

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September 19, 2023, 06:39:23 PM
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Stuttgart's success cannot be separated from the role of coach Sebastian Hoeness who continues to provide strategies so that his players can develop further this season. Of course, last season will also be an important learning experience for the Stuttgart squad because they had to go through difficult times before finally being able to return to the Bundesliga.

However, of all the players in Stuttgart, Sehrou Guirassy is an important figure and also a mainstay striker for Stuttgart and so far he has recorded 8 goals for Stuttgart and at the same time tops the Bundesliga top scorer list so far. Sehrou Guirassy looks more mature and his finishing is getting sharper in front of the opponent's goal. I think if he can bring Stuttgart to a better position this season then he will be a target for big clubs.
With three victories from their first four games this season including a recent away triumph over Mainz with a score of 1-3 Stuttgart has had a great start to the campaign. They may not pose a challenge to the top four teams in the Bundesliga but they have amassed enough points to easily avoid the drop. It is interesting that Stuttgart a team that is not typically in the top four is currently there. Their incredible comeback from nearly being relegated last year when they defeated Hamburger in the playoffs exemplifies their newly discovered resiliency. Stuttgart could end up in a comfortable mid table place this season or they could even continue to surprise with a top tier finish if they keep up this level of play. We are all intrigued by football unexpected nature.

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September 19, 2023, 06:54:14 PM
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In this case I do not think that Leverkusen's strength is the same as Bayern because however their conditions remain different in terms of strength and in terms of players, it's just that for management and performance this season Leverkusen is indeed very good and this is what makes them strong even with players who are in fact below Bayern.
Indeed, when it comes to player strength and quality, Bayern Munich and Leverkusen are very different, Leverkusen is still below Bayern Munich's players. However, what I have seen from Leverkusen is that in the last two years they have begun to show a revival from their downturn after the arrival of Xabi Alanso. I think Xabi Alanso succeeded in building a strong winning mentality in his team, maybe he imitated the way Real Madrid built a winning mentality in their players, and this is what Xabi Alanso is doing for his team at the moment.

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For this season they will definitely perform better than before and Xabi really answered the confidence given by the club for his second season now.
Xabi is a blessing in disguise and his relationship with the players is very good which injects more strength into the balance of the club.
Entering the fourth week of the Bundesliga League, I am sure that Xabi Alanso will answer the club's challenge to him to continue playing consistently in every match with the strength he has so that his hopes of winning the Bundesliga League are maintained.

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September 19, 2023, 07:01:03 PM
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It's very true Xabi Alonso is doing a great job at Leverkusen which can be seen by everyone at this time, it is noticed in their style of play, tactics and goals and this is making them look very promising to secure a top spot on the league table even if they don't end up wining the league title, but if they finish first four I think it's a great achievement for Xabi Alonso for a team who had a relatively poor records.

I agree with you very strongly on your point that Xabi Alonso should keep a deaf ear to the media as their comparison will only bring complacency upon them if given much attention, he should rather focus more on improvement and keeping the team ahead in their game as that will be the only way to get better. The media will always play their part, but their judgement shouldn't be prioritized.

I'm very optimistic Alonso will be a better coach as compared to others the club has had over the years in the history on the club. He has started on a good note already all he has to do is to continually improve and make adjustments where necessary and if need be make changes. The players aswell must be commended as they also have a huge role to play for the success of the team and off course they haven't done otherwise.
I think it was either Ancelotti or Mourinho that said that Xabi will be a great manager one day before all of this and turns out they were right. He knows his shortcomings in the team and he knows his strength as well and he emphasizes the parts where they are strong and try to reel the other team there as well.

His style is a quick football, which requires a lot of training and condition to be able to match it, and there aren't that many teams who would not be tired and fatigued by the end, which allows them to win easily thanks to their quick style. He knows what could make them do great, and he knows what the other team is great as well, so he is ready to do any changes that is needed to win the game during the game itself.

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September 19, 2023, 07:13:36 PM
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Looks like that Bayern Munich has now one to pay less for a contract as the Nagelsmann will get the coach of the German National Team.

Maybe it too early for me to speculate this, but at the moment Bayer Leverkusen seems very ready to compete with Bayern Munich, but still Munich will still be the unbeatable giant of the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich is not unbeatable and for sure Leverkusen is one of the closesd teams to beat Munich.
And i have to say that i love to see that other or more teams catching up to can beat Bayern Munich in the german league.

Bayern Munich is not unbeatable but the fact is, no team in the Bundesliga can take advantage of opportunities or maximize opportunities well. Because in fact, last season Bayern Munich almost failed to win the Bundesliga title, because Bayern Munich success last season ge the title, basically Bayern Munich expected Dortmund not to win in the last match. Because yes, if Dortmund won in the last match last season then of course, Bayern Munich would get a failure in getting the title.

Because the problem that exists so far is about, no competing teams in the Bundesliga can consistently beat and or break the dominance of Bayern Munich. So yes, because at this moment it looks like Bayer Leverkusen has good quality to be able to compete well in the title race. So of course, this season Bayer Leverkusen will be the hope to beat and or stop Bayern Munich's title streak in the Bundesliga.

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September 19, 2023, 07:17:11 PM
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I don't know if that will end up with winning the Bundesliga title for Xabi Alonso. But even if that doesn't happen one thing looks certain that Leverkusen will fight really hard this season to have a solid placement. Since he came everything has changed for the team. Everyone is praising his strategies and system.

This makes me think about whether we would see him as Real Madrid's next manager. Because it is quite probable to be seen considering his history with Real Madrid. In addition to that it is Ancelotti's last season there officially. They will be in search of a new manager.

If we would see a potential offer from Real Madrid I don't think Xabi Alonso would turn it down.  Smiley

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September 19, 2023, 09:15:57 PM
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I don't know if that will end up with winning the Bundesliga title for Xabi Alonso. But even if that doesn't happen one thing looks certain that Leverkusen will fight really hard this season to have a solid placement. Since he came everything has changed for the team. Everyone is praising his strategies and system.

This makes me think about whether we would see him as Real Madrid's next manager. Because it is quite probable to be seen considering his history with Real Madrid. In addition to that it is Ancelotti's last season there officially. They will be in search of a new manager.

If we would see a potential offer from Real Madrid I don't think Xabi Alonso would turn it down.  Smiley
Having a good coach like Xabi Alonso is not enough to win the Bundesliga title unless other teams and especially Bayern Munich stop spending money and buying superstar players because even if Xabi Alonso is a great coach but still he needs better players in his team. in other words, you can't expect to see Xabi Alonso and his team winning the title with the players they currently have.

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September 19, 2023, 09:26:12 PM
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In this case I do not think that Leverkusen's strength is the same as Bayern because however their conditions remain different in terms of strength and in terms of players, it's just that for management and performance this season Leverkusen is indeed very good and this is what makes them strong even with players who are in fact below Bayern.
Leverkusen is indeed a good club and its performance is quite convincing this season. but it is true what you say if Bayern is actually still above Leverkusen regarding the ability of its players. In the last match which ended in a draw, Bayern actually had a 2-1 lead. However, it was very unfortunate that at the end of injury time, they made a mistake and were very unlucky. So Leverkusen got the final kick which made it a goal. So it's just a matter of time, I'm sure that Bayern will soon take over the first position again. Moreover, they are really on fire at the moment, and Harry Kane has also made them stronger on the front line.

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September 19, 2023, 09:40:31 PM
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It's difficult when the difference is so stark in terms of mentality and strength that even when there is an opportunity, it sometimes seems to be wasted.
For example, last season where it should have been easily obtained by Dortmund because of the determination they only had to win 3 points when they were quite favoured but in the end everything returned to belong to Bayern, which is irrefutable evidence that clubs other than Bayern in the Bundesliga seem to lose hope in the title race.

Leipzig in terms of performance I would not say they are stable but they can always be in the top 4 at the end of the season.
The start of this season they did better than before but I agree with you that it won't be a reference point for the title race because in the end all they're after is probably the top 4.
That's one opportunity that won't come to Dortmund again until after a while, if they had won their last game they would had been the defending champions and winning the league would had boosted their performance this season maybe that would had even encouraged them to try strengthening the team to a better standard of defending their trophy.
 
 I think Leipzig are not bad this season and they're on the right track and you're not all wrong when you said they'll finish top four this season, they got a strong team capable of contending for the league they're currently third ín the table and has recorded just one lose and won theee games so far wgich is fair enough still classify them as title contenders this season hopefully in the future they'll be strong enough to challenge Bayern Munich and win the trophy
The last time the Bundesliga competition was like this was in the 2018-19 season where at that time Dortmund managed to suppress Bayern with a difference of 2 points until the end of the season and from that season until the 2021-22 season Dortmund was always far behind and last season was the closest but they also failed to maximize circumstances that should have been profitable for them.

I agree with you, if you look at the current performance, it is very likely that the competition will be full of tension and the difference will be a little difficult for them to achieve this season, especially since Dortmund's performance is still quite far from expectations.
But fortunately in this week's match they managed to win quite convincingly against Freiburg which made their position slightly better in the standings.

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September 19, 2023, 09:44:54 PM
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Leverkusen is indeed a good club and its performance is quite convincing this season. but it is true what you say if Bayern is actually still above Leverkusen regarding the ability of its players. In the last match which ended in a draw, Bayern actually had a 2-1 lead. However, it was very unfortunate that at the end of injury time, they made a mistake and were very unlucky. So Leverkusen got the final kick which made it a goal. So it's just a matter of time, I'm sure that Bayern will soon take over the first position again. Moreover, they are really on fire at the moment, and Harry Kane has also made them stronger on the front line.
So far their coach is really doing a good job at the team and has made them to be a strong contending side that are capable of facing any other team in the league I like how they came back to equalize Bayerns late hour goal making them to still retain their position which is the top of the league, I've got no doubt about Bayern Munich toping the league later but currently Leverkusen have proved that they're capable of taking everyone by suprise this season and I'll be shocked to see if they'll win the league  this season.
 
 Bayern Munich would be currently hoping that Bayer Leverkusen carelessly drop some point so it would give then better chances of moving to their preferred position which is the top of the league table, and one thing about them is that when they're toping they barely loose matches and they could destroy Manchester United tomorrow in the Champions league

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September 19, 2023, 10:30:38 PM
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In this case I do not think that Leverkusen's strength is the same as Bayern because however their conditions remain different in terms of strength and in terms of players, it's just that for management and performance this season Leverkusen is indeed very good and this is what makes them strong even with players who are in fact below Bayern.
Indeed, when it comes to player strength and quality, Bayern Munich and Leverkusen are very different, Leverkusen is still below Bayern Munich's players. However, what I have seen from Leverkusen is that in the last two years they have begun to show a revival from their downturn after the arrival of Xabi Alanso. I think Xabi Alanso succeeded in building a strong winning mentality in his team, maybe he imitated the way Real Madrid built a winning mentality in their players, and this is what Xabi Alanso is doing for his team at the moment.
So from that it would be quite funny to say their strength is comparable so in this case I don't really agree with saying Leverkusen is comparable to Bayern because in terms of strength and quality Bayern players are still superior, it's just that for cohesiveness and performance they deserve to be praised.
Currently Leverkusen deserves to be praised and Xabi is a new figure but has a cold hand in his coaching which makes this Leverkusen different this season.

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For this season they will definitely perform better than before and Xabi really answered the confidence given by the club for his second season now.
Xabi is a blessing in disguise and his relationship with the players is very good which injects more strength into the balance of the club.
Entering the fourth week of the Bundesliga League, I am sure that Xabi Alanso will answer the club's challenge to him to continue playing consistently in every match with the strength he has so that his hopes of winning the Bundesliga League are maintained.
It's a challenge for Xabi as they begin a more demanding schedule than ever before as they now prepare for their first Europa League match.
They will face Hacken in the Europa League followed by Heidenheim in the Bundesliga a few days later.
Xabi will have to start thinking of a good rotation for the players so that they don't get overworked in this busy schedule and indeed this will be a good challenge for Xabi especially if he can handle it then he will definitely have a lot of confidence this season.

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September 19, 2023, 10:42:40 PM
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So far their coach is really doing a good job at the team and has made them to be a strong contending side that are capable of facing any other team in the league I like how they came back to equalize Bayerns late hour goal making them to still retain their position which is the top of the league, I've got no doubt about Bayern Munich toping the league later but currently Leverkusen have proved that they're capable of taking everyone by suprise this season and I'll be shocked to see if they'll win the league  this season.
 
 Bayern Munich would be currently hoping that Bayer Leverkusen carelessly drop some point so it would give then better chances of moving to their preferred position which is the top of the league table, and one thing about them is that when they're toping they barely loose matches and they could destroy Manchester United tomorrow in the Champions league
After seeing Leverkusen's revival last season, we are increasingly confident that they will make many surprises this season. Indeed, when Leverkusen visited the Allianz Arena they were able to show their true strength because they were facing a star-studded team but they were able to apply a lot of pressure in that match. The final result is a strong answer about their position in this season. Bayern Munich, which is dominated by above average quality players, must be wary of the rise of other teams, especially Leverkusen, this season.

Indeed, Bayern Munich will be able to seize the leader of the standings from Leverkusen, but if Xabi Alonso is able to maintain Leverkusen's best performance then Bayern Munich will find it difficult to shift Leverkusen's ranking. I think Leverkusen are in their best form this season after last season they sat at the bottom of the standings, but this season their fate has changed 100%.

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September 19, 2023, 11:17:34 PM
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It's difficult when the difference is so stark in terms of mentality and strength that even when there is an opportunity, it sometimes seems to be wasted.
For example, last season where it should have been easily obtained by Dortmund because of the determination they only had to win 3 points when they were quite favoured but in the end everything returned to belong to Bayern, which is irrefutable evidence that clubs other than Bayern in the Bundesliga seem to lose hope in the title race.

Leipzig in terms of performance I would not say they are stable but they can always be in the top 4 at the end of the season.
The start of this season they did better than before but I agree with you that it won't be a reference point for the title race because in the end all they're after is probably the top 4.
That's one opportunity that won't come to Dortmund again until after a while, if they had won their last game they would had been the defending champions and winning the league would had boosted their performance this season maybe that would had even encouraged them to try strengthening the team to a better standard of defending their trophy.
 
 I think Leipzig are not bad this season and they're on the right track and you're not all wrong when you said they'll finish top four this season, they got a strong team capable of contending for the league they're currently third ín the table and has recorded just one lose and won theee games so far wgich is fair enough still classify them as title contenders this season hopefully in the future they'll be strong enough to challenge Bayern Munich and win the trophy
The last time the Bundesliga competition was like this was in the 2018-19 season where at that time Dortmund managed to suppress Bayern with a difference of 2 points until the end of the season and from that season until the 2021-22 season Dortmund was always far behind and last season was the closest but they also failed to maximize circumstances that should have been profitable for them.

I agree with you, if you look at the current performance, it is very likely that the competition will be full of tension and the difference will be a little difficult for them to achieve this season, especially since Dortmund's performance is still quite far from expectations.
But fortunately in this week's match they managed to win quite convincingly against Freiburg which made their position slightly better in the standings.

I don't think if that's a priority for Dortmund to win the Bundesliga title, Dortmund is a team that usually tries to earn money by selling young players and talents to other teams and we know even Bayern Munich is one possible destination for these talented palters. Dortmund got a good potential and they got usually have even more spectators which shows how great a team they are.
I think already got what they wanted to get and they are already earning a huge amount of money from the players they sell.




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September 20, 2023, 03:51:38 AM
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I don't think if that's a priority for Dortmund to win the Bundesliga title, Dortmund is a team that usually tries to earn money by selling young players and talents to other teams and we know even Bayern Munich is one possible destination for these talented palters. Dortmund got a good potential and they got usually have even more spectators which shows how great a team they are.
I think already got what they wanted to get and they are already earning a huge amount of money from the players they sell.



As every post that says Dortmund doesn't care about winning and only wants to develop and sell players, absolute NONSENSE.

Every single player they sold over the past years they tried to hold. They offered more money and a new contracts to Haaland, Bellingham, Aubameyang, Dembele and so on. Every single player. They knew they can make a lot of money selling them but they chose to compete for titles and try to keep them.

Yet all the players declined and wanted to go to bigger teams with bigger salary.

So how does this fit to their proclaimed agenda? If they want to sell players and take profits, why would they try to keep the players and spend more money doing so? You don't read any news about Dortmund and what's going on, you just see the big headlines that a player was sold, what happened before, even though it's well reported in German, but also international, media you have no clue of.

So please stop posting this nonsense as you have 0 idea what's going on in Dortmund or even the Bundesliga.

Also I don't understand why you would add this totally unrelated picture of attendance records in the Bundesliga.  Roll Eyes

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September 20, 2023, 05:36:31 AM
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Stuttgart's success cannot be separated from the role of coach Sebastian Hoeness who continues to provide strategies so that his players can develop further this season. Of course, last season will also be an important learning experience for the Stuttgart squad because they had to go through difficult times before finally being able to return to the Bundesliga.

However, of all the players in Stuttgart, Sehrou Guirassy is an important figure and also a mainstay striker for Stuttgart and so far he has recorded 8 goals for Stuttgart and at the same time tops the Bundesliga top scorer list so far. Sehrou Guirassy looks more mature and his finishing is getting sharper in front of the opponent's goal. I think if he can bring Stuttgart to a better position this season then he will be a target for big clubs.
With three victories from their first four games this season including a recent away triumph over Mainz with a score of 1-3 Stuttgart has had a great start to the campaign. They may not pose a challenge to the top four teams in the Bundesliga but they have amassed enough points to easily avoid the drop. It is interesting that Stuttgart a team that is not typically in the top four is currently there. Their incredible comeback from nearly being relegated last year when they defeated Hamburger in the playoffs exemplifies their newly discovered resiliency. Stuttgart could end up in a comfortable mid table place this season or they could even continue to surprise with a top tier finish if they keep up this level of play. We are all intrigued by football unexpected nature.
It is fortunate that from the start of this season match until the next match, Stuttgart has never faced a stronger team and everything was proven when they competed against Leipzig. It was very clear that Stuttgart could not do anything except lose the match. and in the upcoming match, Stuttgart will compete against Darmstadt and this is not a strong team that has just been promoted to the Bundesliga and of course Stuttgart will win this match again by adding 3 more points.
this is very clear, like luck that needs to be appreciated. Stuttgart schedule in the early stages of this season is not against a stronger team so that it can add more points before playing against Leverkusen or Bayern Munich and from this match Stuttgart will lose its victory again.

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September 20, 2023, 05:49:53 AM
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I don't know if that will end up with winning the Bundesliga title for Xabi Alonso. But even if that doesn't happen one thing looks certain that Leverkusen will fight really hard this season to have a solid placement. Since he came everything has changed for the team. Everyone is praising his strategies and system.

Bayern Leverkusen has indeed experienced many changes since being coached by Xabi Alonso, but this cannot ensure that Bayern Leverkusen will be able to wins the Bundesliga because Bayern Leverkusen has not been able to beat Bayern Munich. They have the same points and it is still a chance for Bayern Munich to regain their position and I am sure Bayern Munich will continue to try for thats.  Bayern Munich still has a strong defense in this league and Harry Kane will hone his skills and improve his performance for the upcoming matches. Currently, Leverkusen may indeed be Bayern Munich biggest rival, but I do not thinks thats a big pressure if you know Bayern Munich performance so far.

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September 20, 2023, 06:51:01 AM
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Having a good coach like Xabi Alonso is not enough to win the Bundesliga title unless other teams and especially Bayern Munich stop spending money and buying superstar players because even if Xabi Alonso is a great coach but still he needs better players in his team. in other words, you can't expect to see Xabi Alonso and his team winning the title with the players they currently have.
I will want to say you rightly stated the obvious, a good coach is not all a team requires to win a league title or let's say a trophy maybe. it's usually a collective effort from both players, coach and the team management as well because the coach will only provide the team(player's) with the needed tactics and formation to play with, while the player will be the ones on the pitch to play the game even tho the coach will be doing his job from the side of the pitch aswell.

Another factor that plays out in the success of a team is the relationship between the head coach and the players, and obviously Xabi Alonso is giving his best at that, it's said that the relationship between Xabi Alonso and his players is mostly a cordial and friendly one as this will keep the players at ease and willing to give their very best as they have no resentments.

It's sad how if a team is not performing very well the coach seem to take all the blame but the it's worthy of noting that not in every situation the coach should take all the blame, the players aswell and the management too aswell have a fair share of the blame as if a team have injured players that coach cannot be solely blamed for that, same as when the team is managed poorly by the management, in situations where they refuse to release funds for the coach to make good purchase of new players I don't think he should be blamed solely if the teams performance drops as a result.

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September 20, 2023, 08:05:06 AM
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Stuttgart's success cannot be separated from the role of coach Sebastian Hoeness who continues to provide strategies so that his players can develop further this season. Of course, last season will also be an important learning experience for the Stuttgart squad because they had to go through difficult times before finally being able to return to the Bundesliga.

However, of all the players in Stuttgart, Sehrou Guirassy is an important figure and also a mainstay striker for Stuttgart and so far he has recorded 8 goals for Stuttgart and at the same time tops the Bundesliga top scorer list so far. Sehrou Guirassy looks more mature and his finishing is getting sharper in front of the opponent's goal. I think if he can bring Stuttgart to a better position this season then he will be a target for big clubs.
With three victories from their first four games this season including a recent away triumph over Mainz with a score of 1-3 Stuttgart has had a great start to the campaign. They may not pose a challenge to the top four teams in the Bundesliga but they have amassed enough points to easily avoid the drop. It is interesting that Stuttgart a team that is not typically in the top four is currently there. Their incredible comeback from nearly being relegated last year when they defeated Hamburger in the playoffs exemplifies their newly discovered resiliency. Stuttgart could end up in a comfortable mid table place this season or they could even continue to surprise with a top tier finish if they keep up this level of play. We are all intrigued by football unexpected nature.
Indeed, Stuttgart must do that from the start if they still want to play in the Bundesliga next season and not be bothered by the danger of the relegation zone like last season. What Stuttgart achieved must be imitated by other weak teams at the bottom and at least now they have more capital to survive in this competition. Being in the top 4 for Stuttgart is just a momentary illusion and when they face teams whose level is far above them, such as Bayern Munich, Dortmund and Leipzig, they will definitely fall. The mid-table will indeed be the most comfortable place for Stuttgart rather than having to think about other negative things and they are doing their job well and have surprised people so far.

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September 20, 2023, 08:19:31 AM
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So far their coach is really doing a good job at the team and has made them to be a strong contending side that are capable of facing any other team in the league I like how they came back to equalize Bayerns late hour goal making them to still retain their position which is the top of the league, I've got no doubt about Bayern Munich toping the league later but currently Leverkusen have proved that they're capable of taking everyone by suprise this season and I'll be shocked to see if they'll win the league  this season.
 
 Bayern Munich would be currently hoping that Bayer Leverkusen carelessly drop some point so it would give then better chances of moving to their preferred position which is the top of the league table, and one thing about them is that when they're toping they barely loose matches and they could destroy Manchester United tomorrow in the Champions league

Bayer also plays in the EL, so they will have the same busy schedule as Bayern, but I think that for Bayer the Bundesliga will be a higher priority than the EL, and Bayern will perceive the Champions League and the Bundesliga equally and want to win them both, so in this case, Bayer will have a slight advantage. Although at the moment it’s too early to say anything, some of them will definitely experience a decline...

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September 20, 2023, 08:35:56 AM
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Dortmund improved their morale quite much after beating Freiburg by 4-2. But this happiness didn't last long because they lost to PSG by 2-0 last night. It was a tough game for them of course and they played even away. They needed to defend them as good as possible but I can't say Dortmund are one of the good teams about defending.

PSG have been having hard days actually. They just lost to Nice home but this didn't affect them at all in the Champions League game. However I don't think Dortmund are very unhappy now as a loss was already quite probable to be seen.

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