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October 17, 2023, 08:24:45 AM
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Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention
  • Lewandoski 
  • Aubameyang
  • Sancho
  • Haaland 
  • Bellingham
I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.
Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

Dortmund doesn't really want to win a title either in the Bundesliga or in the Champions League because Dortmund's goal is only to train its talented players so they can sell at high prices to elite European clubs. If Dortmund wants to win the title, it might happen because Dortmund has talented players in it, so if they are able to compete strongly and pursue their ambition to win the title, Dortmund will definitely be Bayern Munich's strongest rival.
Unfortunately, Dortmund only thinks about business without thinking about the careers of its players so they can win trophies, that's why many Dortmund players don't want to stay at Dortmund for long because Every player definitely wants the title of champion at the club he plays.
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October 17, 2023, 08:38:28 AM
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Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.
Naturally, I think it's not a loss to be a free transfer. But it seems Tuchel is not thinking about this. Even though Nuer is a good goalkeeper. But he's recovering and not necessarily playing well. This is because he has been 37 years old and it is not young anymore. De Gea is still 32 years old. It's still quite a while that he will have a career. Goalkeepers don't need much physical strength to run.
it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.

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October 17, 2023, 08:46:39 AM
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Dortmund can produce talented players. But naturally talented players will not want to stay with Dortmund. Because this team has no hope of winning the title. They do not form a squad fit to win the title. Lewandowski won several Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich, La Liga with Barcelona. Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League titles in his first season with Manchester City. Had they stayed with Dortmund, they would never have won so many titles. This is why Dortmund cannot keep talented players with their squad even if they want to. So almost every season they sell the best player in the squad for a smart price. They are financially very profitable.

Dortmund doesn't really want to win a title either in the Bundesliga or in the Champions League because Dortmund's goal is only to train its talented players so they can sell at high prices to elite European clubs. If Dortmund wants to win the title, it might happen because Dortmund has talented players in it, so if they are able to compete strongly and pursue their ambition to win the title, Dortmund will definitely be Bayern Munich's strongest rival.
Unfortunately, Dortmund only thinks about business without thinking about the careers of its players so they can win trophies, that's why many Dortmund players don't want to stay at Dortmund for long because Every player definitely wants the title of champion at the club he plays.
Agree with this and there is a lot of truth in what Dortmund has been doing so far regarding the main goal of being able to achieve massive financial profits by selling the best players they can produce but actually Dortmund is team that is strong enough for the Bundesliga and they are very often being runners-up or in the top three so if they really want to focus on the title then it is not that difficult for Dortmund to achieve it.
If Dortmund leaders and management can be replaced perhaps there will be big change which was initially aimed at being business to make profit becoming team that really competes to become champion.

Mistakes like this are the result of team management who do not really care about winning titles and in the future I am sure that Dortmund can change.
Dortmund can become team that its fans are truly proud of in every league they play.

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October 17, 2023, 08:54:06 AM
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it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
You are right that it is normal for players to make mistakes but it will still endanger the team when it occurs in important matches such as the knockout rounds and mistakes should almost never occur which will result in losses for the team, so far Bayern Munich's goal with Sven Ulriech can be said to be good Just because they only conceded 6 goals and of course that's not just because of the goalkeeper's role because defenders have an important role as well as protecting the goal from opponent attacks.
Of course Tuchel has the right reasons why he didn't choose DeGea, if I'm not mistaken one of them, is because he wants a high salary, of course his status without a club makes any club reluctant to make him a player, including Bayern Munich, and it's possible that the former Manchester United goalkeeper's playing style is not suitable with what Tuchel is looking for so he never considered him to be at Bayern Munich.

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October 17, 2023, 08:55:59 AM
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it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.

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October 17, 2023, 09:10:35 AM
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Yes, it is true that many players were born good at Dortmund, such as Dembele and Haaland and others. It is true that you mentioned that the team always prioritizes business interests within the club, to maintain the team's finances, but winning the league trophy is much more profitable and being able to appear in prestigious leagues such as the Champions League, if the league performs consistently. Actually, the Dortmund team is solid in every match and has lots of bright young talent. Dortmund experiences the unlucky factor every year in winning the league.

Dortmund have business prioritize only and not really care with how keep compete for fighting to be the winner in domestic league or champion league, they have sold many star players such as Jude Bellingham, Erling Haaland, Jadon Sancho, Matt Hummel, Robert Lewandowski and many star player who have valuable sell to other team and not care if reach agreement sell with rival team as Bayern Munich. Dortmund have good scout talent and every year they not loss any top or valuable player for higher values selling on transfer window opening, indeed business is important in football I think Dortmund must balance composition squad before selling their top player.

Before selling Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid they should promoting the young player on senior squad and have good level perform for replacing Jude Bellingham position.

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October 17, 2023, 09:12:54 AM
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it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.
Regardless of age, I don't think 32 is too old for a goalkeeper, especially Bayerna, who are currently much older than their goalkeepers, it's just that the compatibility is in question between Tuchel and De Gea, which seems to be one of the other reasons.
But I think if this is allowed to continue, it can also interfere with Bayern itself because we know that currently Neuer is 37 years old and Sven Ulreih is 2 years younger than Neuer, which means Bayern must look for other alternatives even though there is a new goalkeeping option Peretz with a younger age but he will not be used as a startern and future project I think.
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October 17, 2023, 10:04:10 AM
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And sometimes it is also difficult for us to understand how other people do business in this case because selling players is also part of business apart from strengthening a team. And every team obviously always has their own way of trying to achieve what they want, especially in terms of trophies and after that is in buying players who they think can be good enough to strengthen the team's strength. So this must be seen more broadly because a team must have its own targets.
There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Just look at the example of Dortmund last season where they almost won the Bundesliga, but because they were unable to play well to get full points, Bayern Munich took the championship again. Even though Dortmund only needed to win in the last match and the match also took place at home.

You are right, there's nothing bad with doing business in the football industry; they need to make profit because that is all it is meant for. Any business organization will lose and gain, but the owner of Dortmund takes it so seriously when it comes to doing business with players. Some clubs buy players so they can win trophy's, but Dortmund buys players when they become more talented so they can sell them for a high price. Look at Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland; their performances become so much stronger after leaving the club, and they sold them for a huge amount of money.

I was very surprised by the way they performed, even if Dortmund continues to be the top four teams in the Bundesliga division. Since they started to lose some strength early in the season, I don't think they will do well with their performances. Despite this, people keep doubting their performances to be good, yet they continue to perform well. Even if they didn't replace the players they sold, I can say that Dortmund's owner values financial success over winning a championship. As a result, many fans will turn back to the team because not everyone will want to supporting a team that didn't put in any effort to win the title.

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October 17, 2023, 10:16:51 AM
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it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.
Even though De Gea is no longer young, his experience as one of the best goalkeepers is certainly convincing enough. It's just that for some reason Bayern Munich or Tuchel are not interested in him, even though now he is a free agent and whenever they want they can bring in De Gea.

Sven Ulreich's performance is far from what Bayern Munich currently needs and if Bayern Munich still hopes for a recovery from Neuer's injury, of course they will just be wasting their time. But there is one thing that makes me wonder, why did Bayern Munich sell Yann Sommer last summer if in the end they didn't get a goalkeeper worthy of all the competitions this season?
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it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.
Even though De Gea is no longer young, his experience as one of the best goalkeepers is certainly convincing enough. It's just that for some reason Bayern Munich or Tuchel are not interested in him, even though now he is a free agent and whenever they want they can bring in De Gea.

Sven Ulreich's performance is far from what Bayern Munich currently needs and if Bayern Munich still hopes for a recovery from Neuer's injury, of course they will just be wasting their time. But there is one thing that makes me wonder, why did Bayern Munich sell Yann Sommer last summer if in the end they didn't get a goalkeeper worthy of all the competitions this season?
I didn't find it logical for them to sell Sommer either. The goalkeeper they are looking for must be at Bayern's standards. I think De Gea has these characteristics to a great extent. He can easily save Bayern for at least 2 years. They can easily play goalkeeper until the age of 38-39. I don't think expectations from Neuer's performance should be high.

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October 17, 2023, 10:34:49 AM
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Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.
That's the problem and there is nothing wrong if clubs try to do business in football, but they should also think about what they can achieve for the club so that they don't lose the opportunity to win several important titles. It's different with Arsenal, although Arsene Wenger's era also has similarities with Dortmund, but he gave good results for several titles for Arsenal.

High self-confidence is needed and a winning mentality, it seems that Dortmund in that match were not really confident and did not have a winning mentality so they failed to win the match they should have won and won the Bundesliga last season. Obviously this made many of their fans disappointed and came to watch at that time. Playing at home showed disappointment in the players because they failed to become champions.

But I think they will learn from previous failures even though this season doesn't look better than last season because there is another club that will be their biggest challenge apart from Munich, namely Leverkusen, where currently they are playing very consistently at the start of this season, they may also have a chance to win. league this season.
A winning mentality will be formed when they have good quality players and what happened last season was that they should have won the Bundesliga but failed at home. This is quite an embarrassing incident for a club like Dortmund, which always produces talented young players because the opportunity to become champions is very big, but this opportunity was lost at home. The club's vision must be changed slightly by management if they want to compete with other big clubs because if they continue to do things like they are now, it will be difficult for them to compete with other clubs.

If they don't buy some quality players at high prices it won't be a problem because they can take advantage of young players who are developing into future star players. Like some of the players they had before and after leaving they found success at their new clubs and if Dortmund don't do that then I doubt they will be able to reach a good level for the club.

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October 17, 2023, 11:25:19 AM
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If Dortmund's goal was to win the Bundesliga, I think they could have done it. A number of talented players have emerged from the Dortmund club in the last few seasons. And Dortmund sold these players at a high price. Had they not sold these players they could have dominated the Bundesliga. Bayern Munich challenge for the Bundesliga title. The team would have been able to play well even in the Champions League. However, the Dortmund management probably has no desire to win the title. Like the previous seasons, Bayern Munich is the most likely to win the Bundesliga this season.

I agree, for sure Dortmund's real intention was not to win but to profit I really don't think that their main goal  was for their outstanding players to be sold at a high price, as you can see Dortmund got some great trainers that could surely train new players to be their very best inside the field, Dortmund is pretty much well known in doing such thing, so this is not the 1st time they have done it,


Yes, considering its economic potential and the way it goes shopping during each transfer window, Dortmund is the opposite of other clubs. Since Dortmund has to make money through transfers, They can sell any of the club's stars as long as they get a high price. Dortmund is forced to sell Bellingham like they sold Haaland or Dembele. After that, Moukoko and Duranville will step up to take on important roles in the team. But the story will always be just such a circle. They only focus on investing in young players with potential or cheap but good players from free transfers. Buying low and selling high is always the way this club does business.

The economic standpoint of Dortmund is pretty much great for them in doing such things they really get players at a small price and then sell them when they tend to be a great deal in the future buying playing with a small amount is something the Bundesliga is doing for sure the Dortmund have a great trader in the midst of doing such things,

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October 17, 2023, 11:37:21 AM
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it makes sense if Tuchel tries to replace his goalkeeper with another more experienced player like De Gea but to be honest I actually dont see a big problem with Sven Ulreich as far as guarding Bayern Munich goal, hes not that careful, he just sometimes experiences carelessness and this is normal because all players will experiencing the same thing.

from several cases, I think a little that the reason Tuchel did not glance at De Gea seems to be because Tuchel thought that De Gea would not renew his contract at Man United because his performance had declined, so Tuchel doubted this and chose Sven Ulreich as his mainstay goalkeeper.
Maybe because De Gea's age is no longer young, it is also an influence that Tuchel doesn't want him.
But actually, in my opinion, Bayern currently really needs a goalkeeper who has good qualities, indeed so far Sven Ulreich's performance has not had any problems, but if it is in a big match on the European stage, I hope that Sven Ulreich will be able to show his best performance, after all, Sven Ulreich is also very old, he is now 35 years old and therefore in my opinion Baern really need to pay attention to the goalkeeper position in their team.
And Manuel Neuer, who suffered an injury, is already old, so if he recovers later it is not certain that Manuel Neuer will be able to return to his top performance, Manuel Neuer is now 37 years old.
Even though De Gea is no longer young, his experience as one of the best goalkeepers is certainly convincing enough. It's just that for some reason Bayern Munich or Tuchel are not interested in him, even though now he is a free agent and whenever they want they can bring in De Gea.

Sven Ulreich's performance is far from what Bayern Munich currently needs and if Bayern Munich still hopes for a recovery from Neuer's injury, of course they will just be wasting their time. But there is one thing that makes me wonder, why did Bayern Munich sell Yann Sommer last summer if in the end they didn't get a goalkeeper worthy of all the competitions this season?
It would be a lie if Bayern Munich didn't have high expectations for Neuer, in fact they want to wait for this veteran goalkeeper to recover quickly and be able to strengthen Bayern Munich again. We know very well that Neuer is very old and as a goalkeeper he will be getting closer to retirement. If Bayern Munich still depends on Neuer, how long will they delay regenerating players in the future?
If Bayern Munich plans to sell Yann Sommer, they must also be ready to get a goalkeeper who is quite equal and De Gea is the answer. But they never did that.

The competition they so idealize is not the same as it was a few seasons ago and Bayern Munich must realize that. Moreover, now new challengers have emerged at the top of the standings such as Leverkusen and Stuttgart which are not even predictable at all, and it is possible that these two teams could become obstacles for Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga.
I didn't find it logical for them to sell Sommer either. The goalkeeper they are looking for must be at Bayern's standards. I think De Gea has these characteristics to a great extent. He can easily save Bayern for at least 2 years. They can easily play goalkeeper until the age of 38-39. I don't think expectations from Neuer's performance should be high.
It would be a lie if Bayern Munich didn't have high expectations for Neuer, in fact they want to wait for this veteran goalkeeper to recover quickly and be able to strengthen Bayern Munich again. We know very well that Neuer is very old and as a goalkeeper he will be getting closer to retirement. If Bayern Munich still depends on Neuer, how long will they delay regenerating players in the future?
If Bayern Munich plans to sell Yann Sommer, they must also be ready to get a goalkeeper who is quite equal and De Gea is the answer. But they never did that.

The competition they so idealize is not the same as it was a few seasons ago and Bayern Munich must realize that. Moreover, now new challengers have emerged at the top of the standings such as Leverkusen and Stuttgart which are not even predictable at all, and it is possible that these two teams could become obstacles for Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga.
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October 17, 2023, 12:01:06 PM
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Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.
Their business strategy allows all players to be highly motivated, as each of them understands that he has the prospect of becoming a player of  european teams. Thanks to this, Dortmund is constantly under the close supervision of the selectors of different teams and in this scheme everyone benefits, the team gets motivated players and good results, and the players get their dreams realized. Dortmund also work very hard to find or develop such players, they are very good at it.
Yes, with their habit of always selling their star players, they can still provide competition. They can still maintain their level, it's just that they don't improve their level to be even better. Comfort zone, I think that's what they don't want to leave, and I don't think that's a good thing for a team like them which we know that they are one of the big teams in this Bundeliga.
If they want a title, they can actually achieve it, it's just how strong their desire is. I mean it doesn't make sense when they want a title, but they always sell valuable players in the squad.











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October 17, 2023, 12:55:32 PM
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There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.


Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.
The scouting team has become the main party who needs to be applaused here. it's not terzic who is not even helping the club to play even better. I hope that dortmund would be getting someone like jurgen klopp that can being dortmund to the its golden era again. Dortmund was not selling all of its talented players, but the club was doing it due to the financial stability that is needed by the club. People are not even aware about how much club's expenses.

Dortmund needs to keep its financial to be stable by selling more players to the another club. The fact that dortmund can still stay at the top 10. It must be blamed if dortmund played so badly like schalke after sold its players.

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October 17, 2023, 01:29:46 PM
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I didn't find it logical for them to sell Sommer either. The goalkeeper they are looking for must be at Bayern's standards. I think De Gea has these characteristics to a great extent. He can easily save Bayern for at least 2 years. They can easily play goalkeeper until the age of 38-39. I don't think expectations from Neuer's performance should be high.
If you look at the experience that De Gea already has, it is still quite feasible for a team as big as Bayern Munich to attract him into their squad. Because De Gea is not that old, it is still possible for him to be trusted again as the best goalkeeper in a team that has good dominance in the Bundesliga. And if Sommer can still make a good contribution to Bayern Munich, he doesn't need to be sold either, but for now I think it is also difficult for Bayern Munich to make a choice on this matter.

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October 17, 2023, 01:38:39 PM
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Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.
Their business strategy allows all players to be highly motivated, as each of them understands that he has the prospect of becoming a player of  european teams. Thanks to this, Dortmund is constantly under the close supervision of the selectors of different teams and in this scheme everyone benefits, the team gets motivated players and good results, and the players get their dreams realized. Dortmund also work very hard to find or develop such players, they are very good at it.
Yes, with their habit of always selling their star players, they can still provide competition. They can still maintain their level, it's just that they don't improve their level to be even better. Comfort zone, I think that's what they don't want to leave, and I don't think that's a good thing for a team like them which we know that they are one of the big teams in this Bundeliga.
If they want a title, they can actually achieve it, it's just how strong their desire is. I mean it doesn't make sense when they want a title, but they always sell valuable players in the squad.

True and in my opinion this is quite impressive which is where even though they are famous for their habit of selling good players that they have managed to form but even so we can see now Dortmund has proven to be able to crawl up to enter the title competition in the top five standings. Honestly, this Bundesliga season in my opinion is very different from the previous season, where the competition is now very tight, we can see how Leverkusen plays, they are very strong and can always dominate the top of the standings even though yesterday they fell but it doesn't matter and it is proven that now they are able to dominate the top five with the first rank, Bayern Muchen really recognizes that this season is very tight in competition, Tuchel must really pay attention to every step, if they are careless then it is very possible that their dominance as defending champions will be easily broken by other clubs, especially Leverkusen.

Yes it makes sense, if indeed Dortmund want the trophy then I agree with you, they can easily achieve it, after all they have a lot of great players, but well the habit of business is indeed difficult to get rid of and we must admit that there is a huge advantage there with habits like that, so maybe that's the reason why Dortmund don't really maximize their goals in the trophy hunt.

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October 17, 2023, 02:04:46 PM
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True and in my opinion this is quite impressive which is where even though they are famous for their habit of selling good players that they have managed to form but even so we can see now Dortmund has proven to be able to crawl up to enter the title competition in the top five standings. Honestly, this Bundesliga season in my opinion is very different from the previous season, where the competition is now very tight, we can see how Leverkusen plays, they are very strong and can always dominate the top of the standings even though yesterday they fell but it doesn't matter and it is proven that now they are able to dominate the top five with the first rank, Bayern Muchen really recognizes that this season is very tight in competition, Tuchel must really pay attention to every step, if they are careless then it is very possible that their dominance as defending champions will be easily broken by other clubs, especially Leverkusen.

Yes it makes sense, if indeed Dortmund want the trophy then I agree with you, they can easily achieve it, after all they have a lot of great players, but well the habit of business is indeed difficult to get rid of and we must admit that there is a huge advantage there with habits like that, so maybe that's the reason why Dortmund don't really maximize their goals in the trophy hunt.
Selling their players for financial benefit has been the club's tradition for years now, well I think they're benefiting alot from it cause it's not affecting their performance very much and they'll always look for a way to secure the top 4 and participate in the Champions League competition, well while Dortmund decided to sell their good players for cash and miss chances of claiming dominance from Bayern Munich, other teams like Leverkusen are improving their team and have become one of the strongest so far and have been dominating the league for weeks even gave Bayern Munich a tough challenge and drew against them.

 Well to get the league from Bayern Munich I think the 1st step Dortmund should do is stop selling their players for financial benefits and since they're good at recruiting good and talented youngsters to make them stronger and have a better challenge like they did last season, if not if they keep carrying out their normal tradition every season then I don't think they'll be ready to win the Bundesliga title.
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October 17, 2023, 02:13:40 PM
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If you look at the experience that De Gea already has, it is still quite feasible for a team as big as Bayern Munich to attract him into their squad. Because De Gea is not that old, it is still possible for him to be trusted again as the best goalkeeper in a team that has good dominance in the Bundesliga. And if Sommer can still make a good contribution to Bayern Munich, he doesn't need to be sold either, but for now I think it is also difficult for Bayern Munich to make a choice on this matter.
I mean, if De Gea is so that great, many teams should be interested to sign him after Manchester United not want to extend his contract, isn't? but the reality there's no big team is seriously want to sign him, Bayern Munich is a big team and they're need to find a good goalkeeper.

I think it's because of De Gea want a high salary and no team can afford it except Saudi Arabian teams.

 
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October 17, 2023, 02:57:08 PM
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I didn't find it logical for them to sell Sommer either. The goalkeeper they are looking for must be at Bayern's standards. I think De Gea has these characteristics to a great extent. He can easily save Bayern for at least 2 years. They can easily play goalkeeper until the age of 38-39. I don't think expectations from Neuer's performance should be high.
If you look at the experience that De Gea already has, it is still quite feasible for a team as big as Bayern Munich to attract him into their squad. Because De Gea is not that old, it is still possible for him to be trusted again as the best goalkeeper in a team that has good dominance in the Bundesliga. And if Sommer can still make a good contribution to Bayern Munich, he doesn't need to be sold either, but for now I think it is also difficult for Bayern Munich to make a choice on this matter.
Experience won't always work for you. If experience was always valued then players like Luka Modrić and Toni Kroos would not be sitting on the bench at Real Madrid. 

De Gea has been Manchester United's goalkeeper for a long time so we have no doubt that he is a manager with plenty of experience but it remains to be seen how well Bayern Munich will get from him. 

In the last season for Manchester United, we saw that he did not perform as expected, that's why Manchester United was forced to end the relationship with him this season. 

As Bayan Munich needs a quality goalkeeper, De Gea may be ahead in terms of experience but may fall short in terms of performance.

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