Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[len01]

In the Bundesliga they are already very far behind so I think there is nothing more to expect from Borussia Dortmund except to be able to enter the top 4 so it is natural that they shift their focus to the Champion League event but I did not overreact to Borussia Dortmund's big win over Sporting in the knockout round because Sporting this season also did not show good performance so I think Borussia Dortmund's win is still a natural thing.

All of Dortmund's plans could change when the failure in UCL has happened. I mean, Dortmund only has a 7-point difference from Leipzig. While the remaining matches this season there are still 13 matches that Dortmund can take advantage of. If in UCL later Dortmund fails to advance to the semi-finals or even the finals, I'm sure Dortmund will focus on the Bundesliga to catch up on the points difference. And since the last 6 seasons Dortmund has always managed to finish in the best position to get a ticket to UCL. So there is still hope for Dortmund to be able to have the best position at the end of the season.

[jaberwock]

Dortmund is struggling in the league, but in the UCL, things are different. I didn't expect Dortmund to perform well against Sporting in the UCL because what they're doing in the Bundesliga doesn't make you believe they can perform well in the UCL. I'm pretty amazed that Sporting can't even score a goal against Dortmund. They have demonstrated a clear preference for the UCL over league competition. And that is what they have been doing since last season; they do poorly in the league, but in the UCL, they usually have luck and win matches, giving them a chance to get to the final. Because how Dortmund performed last season in the league. if they say they will play final against Real Madrid you won't beleave, and they really performed very well against Madrid is just that they don't have luck in the game. Dortmund don't have a opportunities to win the Bundesliga anymore because there point is very low and i don't think they can pick form in the league again to catch Bayern Munich in the league again.

Yeah, nobody expected Dortmund to have such an easy win, so much so that I am pretty sure the series is over by now, I do not see how Sporting could score three goals next game, or even maybe more. There is really a low chance of that happening, and I am pretty sure that we are going to end up with a lot more trouble if they keep this up.

Dortmund did look like they changed some strategy, they are not as defensive anymore, which is good thing because when you are a Dortmund level team, you do not play pure defensive, unless you are Mourinho lol. So, this new system will allow them to attack a lot more, and quickly too, and they do have a good attacking line, I am guessing that we are going to see them do fine in the end.

[Weawant]

In the Bundesliga they are already very far behind so I think there is nothing more to expect from Borussia Dortmund except to be able to enter the top 4 so it is natural that they shift their focus to the Champion League event but I did not overreact to Borussia Dortmund's big win over Sporting in the knockout round because Sporting this season also did not show good performance so I think Borussia Dortmund's win is still a natural thing.

In the Bundesligas it's almost felt like a norm for Dortmund not to really bother about getting on on the title race so when they don't actually appear there at the top for the title race it doesn't really feel like a problem to them.but they make sure to have a decent finish in the Bundesliga but then they have got priority on the UCL probably because this is almost similarly what happened last year, they have this kind of position in the domestic league and the champions league.

[Asiska02]

In the Bundesliga they are already very far behind so I think there is nothing more to expect from Borussia Dortmund except to be able to enter the top 4 so it is natural that they shift their focus to the Champion League event but I did not overreact to Borussia Dortmund's big win over Sporting in the knockout round because Sporting this season also did not show good performance so I think Borussia Dortmund's win is still a natural thing.

Shifting their focus to the champions league is not what I think is great for them, they don’t look like a team that can win this competition because a lot of big teams are in this competition that are not going to give up. They really need to show their true strength which I think will not be good enough to make them stand a worthy chance in the side of other big teams in the competition. Borussia Dortmund should try and finish in the top four of the Bundesliga even if they won’t make it to win the league title which their performance is really showing that they can’t.

[Jegileman]

You are thinking in the same direction as me because I find it surprising how Borussia Dortmund will be this strong in the Champions League but somehow weak in the German Bundesliga.  Assuming they can maintain the same energy and form, they would have been better positioned in the league. However, I noticed they have been picking up form even in the league matches and I know they can build on that and see how they end the season.

I guess we are not the only ones that are thinking this way about there performance difference between the German and the Champions Leagues they are playing.
But yeah it looks like that the new Coach maybe already have done something positiv to the team , lets see how they will be doing against and in Bochum.
If they dont win that match in Bochum i dont know what to say or think about them , it would be a disaster.

Having their mindset this season directed more to the champions league is what baffles most of us. They don’t look so strong to make it that far in the champions league without been eliminated at some point in the competition before even reaching the semifinals of the competition. Sometimes I just feel that luck is on their side and that is what has been keeping them moving farther in the champions league and still has one of the worst results in the Bundesliga amongst top teams coming from that league. If they remains too focused on the champions league and can’t win it, then with this performance in the Bundesliga also, they can’t win anything and won’t get a place at the top four of the Bundesliga standing which will give them a spot for the champions league next season. By then, it will already be late to realise this mistake, hopefully they can balance things from now.

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In the Bundesliga they are already very far behind so I think there is nothing more to expect from Borussia Dortmund except to be able to enter the top 4 so it is natural that they shift their focus to the Champion League event but I did not overreact to Borussia Dortmund's big win over Sporting in the knockout round because Sporting this season also did not show good performance so I think Borussia Dortmund's win is still a natural thing.

Even though I know that Dortmund winning against Sporting is natural winning, not luck, because we all know that Sporting is not so well this season, however, we already know Dortmund's performance every season in the Bundesliga, although they are among the top clubs in Bundesliga competition, but still find it difficult to meet up to the standards that will give them a high chance in the title race, and that is what always surprises me with Dortmund.

However, focusing only on the champions will not help, as we already know that the Champions League is way tougher than the Bundesliga. What if they did not meet in the Champions League and were already getting slack in the Bundesliga? I think they should do everything possible to be great in both competitions.

[Obim34]

In the Bundesliga they are already very far behind so I think there is nothing more to expect from Borussia Dortmund except to be able to enter the top 4 so it is natural that they shift their focus to the Champion League event but I did not overreact to Borussia Dortmund's big win over Sporting in the knockout round because Sporting this season also did not show good performance so I think Borussia Dortmund's win is still a natural thing.

All of Dortmund's plans could change when the failure in UCL has happened. I mean, Dortmund only has a 7-point difference from Leipzig. While the remaining matches this season there are still 13 matches that Dortmund can take advantage of. If in UCL later Dortmund fails to advance to the semi-finals or even the finals, I'm sure Dortmund will focus on the Bundesliga to catch up on the points difference. And since the last 6 seasons Dortmund has always managed to finish in the best position to get a ticket to UCL. So there is still hope for Dortmund to be able to have the best position at the end of the season.

Dortmund is showing more signs of weakness than they show habitation of good works to help them find a good spot in the Bundesliga title race, they always has been a competitive club contesting for the title, this season showed too much of their downfall and eleventh on the table isn't a good sign even when the league has been brought to half. The points between Dortmund and the 4th place is much, Leipzig are eagerly trying to maintain their position, all want's to qualify for the Champions league and if this continues, Dortmund may not be qualifiers for next UCL.

[Webetcoins]

I even thought that Dortmund was no longer so focused on the Bundesliga competition and only focused more on the Champions League competition even though they still couldn't win there. However, if we look at what happened to Dortmund last season in the Champions League, it was also a pretty great achievement because Dortmund was able to advance to the final even though they were defeated by Real Madrid in the final. But strangely enough, why didn't Dortmund fight hard in the Bundesliga to get their best position even though it wasn't for the champion position because it was more likely not possible at this time.

In the Bundesliga they need quite a lot of points to be in the top 4 and ensure 1 place to be in the Champions League next season. Their chances are still there even though they are quite small, well they have to be able to focus on that because it would be very disappointing if they could not be in the Champions League next season. If they focus more on the Champions League, it sounds like they don't care much about the Bundesliga. That is something they should not do, because in the Champions League there is no guarantee that they can become champions, so they have to put both equally.

Borussia Dortmund currently is having 11th spot with 7 points difference which is quite big because their performance is also inconsistent, and they are not capable of beating big teams in this league which is the problem for them even they are doing good in Champions League.

Their remaining fixtures against top teams in Bundesliga are surely challenging because now from here they needed to be toughest, but things are not favorable due to their average performance but as mentioned if they are able to go through into another final of Champions League this could be huge success, but this is also just a dream with this squad. Now best bet for them is just kept improving and have their best in domestic league because this is only won, win if they are able to ended in top four.

[Nheer]

You are thinking in the same direction as me because I find it surprising how Borussia Dortmund will be this strong in the Champions League but somehow weak in the German Bundesliga.  Assuming they can maintain the same energy and form, they would have been better positioned in the league. However, I noticed they have been picking up form even in the league matches and I know they can build on that and see how they end the season.

I guess we are not the only ones that are thinking this way about there performance difference between the German and the Champions Leagues they are playing.
But yeah it looks like that the new Coach maybe already have done something positiv to the team , lets see how they will be doing against and in Bochum.
If they dont win that match in Bochum i dont know what to say or think about them , it would be a disaster.

It is just as you guys are in my mind, I was just wondering the same thing how a team will different performance in different leagues, they are poor in one and good in the other. It is really surprising that they perform better in the most difficult league and perform poorly in the league that they face easier opponents. The Bundesliga is where they face easier challenges but that’s where they drop more points, i expected them to perform better their than in the champions league but let’s see how far they can go in the champions league.

If they can maintain same level of performance in the Bundesliga as the Champions League they would have been in a better position probably in the top four or be in the Europa or conference league spot. Dortmund was able to win Sporting but will fail to win bottom table Bochum. I am not sure but I believe they will find it difficult to win Bochum because their performance is not very stable in the league but we can’t predict the outcome yet.

[SOKO-DEKE]

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In the Bundesliga they are already very far behind so I think there is nothing more to expect from Borussia Dortmund except to be able to enter the top 4 so it is natural that they shift their focus to the Champion League event but I did not overreact to Borussia Dortmund's big win over Sporting in the knockout round because Sporting this season also did not show good performance so I think Borussia Dortmund's win is still a natural thing.

Dortmund are not in good form this season, and their poor performances have shown in different competitions. They are not getting good results in both the Champions League and the Bundesliga. Winning against Sporting CP is not something great, as Sporting CP are also not in good condition. So, I just feel it was an easy and lucky game for them. Isn't this the same Sporting CP that Arsenal scored many goals against? If Dortmund had been in good form, they would not have been playing the playoffs in the Champions League.

Dortmund started well when this Champions League season began, and they even won with many goals. However, later on, they started getting poor results. What I know is that Dortmund will not surprise us in the Champions League this season like last season when they reached the final. I don’t think it’s possible for that to happen based on their performances. In fact, they need to work hard; otherwise, they might not even qualify for any European competition if they are not careful.

[bitgolden]

Dortmund is like Sevilla of UCL. Sevilla is famous for not being great at La Liga, do not even remember when was the last time they won that, probably not for many many decades, and yet they won Europa league all the time, they always won it and they did great there even when they sucked at the league. Same could be said about Dortmund when it comes to UCL, obviously Dortmund doesn't go and win the whole thing, but they rarely do terrible there, not as terrible as they do in the league.

There were few seasons when they did alright at the league, but in those seasons they didn't do well at UCL, after that was done, last year they did great at UCL right away. When you think of all this, you realize that they just give their focus a lot more to UCL instead.

[Mate2237]

Dortmund is like Sevilla of UCL. Sevilla is famous for not being great at La Liga, do not even remember when was the last time they won that, probably not for many many decades, and yet they won Europa league all the time, they always won it and they did great there even when they sucked at the league. Same could be said about Dortmund when it comes to UCL, obviously Dortmund doesn't go and win the whole thing, but they rarely do terrible there, not as terrible as they do in the league.

There were few seasons when they did alright at the league, but in those seasons they didn't do well at UCL, after that was done, last year they did great at UCL right away. When you think of all this, you realize that they just give their focus a lot more to UCL instead.

Nice win for Dortmund yesterday as they got a vital 0:3 win over sporting in the champions League playoffs with the form that Dortmund was going into the game no body gave Dortmund any chance of winning this game but surprises is one thing that makes football dynamic with this kind of result away from home we can say that Dortmund is already through to the next round of the competition


But for sporting things are not too good for the as they have been struggling to find form ever since their maneger move to Manchester United I think this current sporting  maneger needs to be fired because he is not the right man for the job

[Renampun]

You are thinking in the same direction as me because I find it surprising how Borussia Dortmund will be this strong in the Champions League but somehow weak in the German Bundesliga.  Assuming they can maintain the same energy and form, they would have been better positioned in the league. However, I noticed they have been picking up form even in the league matches and I know they can build on that and see how they end the season.

I guess we are not the only ones that are thinking this way about there performance difference between the German and the Champions Leagues they are playing.
But yeah it looks like that the new Coach maybe already have done something positiv to the team , lets see how they will be doing against and in Bochum.
If they dont win that match in Bochum i dont know what to say or think about them , it would be a disaster.

dortmund's performance is far from being good this season, they were only able to stop in 11th position until this week, even freiburg and frankfurt's performance is much better than dortmund, it's true they will face bochum who are currently at the bottom of the standings, if dortmund lose then i'm sure terzic will get a lot of boos from dortmund fans.

Indeed, in the UCL qualifiers, Dortmund performed well because they managed to win 3-0 over Sporting, but this does not guarantee that they will be able to go further because there are many other great teams that Dortmund will face, I think Terzic's focus is divided at the moment.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Now maybe everything is up to the result of the Leverkusen - Bayern Munich game from now on...

If Xabi Alonso's students don't win this game then it is technically over for them when it comes to the league title.    Even if they win the gap will be 5 points. They will need to hope for their rival to make simple point losses to hand the the title over to them. Would it happen? I don't think so though. We are talking about a Bayern Munich which have only 1 loss and 3 draws so far. They have a potential to collect 21 more points compared to the previous season. There is a huge progress now as a result.

Out of the three draws Bayern recorded this season one happens to be the match against Leverkusen at Bayern home stadium. When the both meet in DFB-pokal round of 16 they still lost to Leverkusen. This time Leverkusen will be hosting Bayern in the return leg for the season I will still. Judge this performance based on previous records.

Leverkusen are more aggressive against Bayern in terms of attacks and defensively as compared to when the play lesser teams
 Bayern might just warm up to get another 1 point from the match which doesn't change anything about their current position in the table but rather draws Leverkusen more closer but I doubt this two will ever get too close this season in points.

[shogun47]

Now maybe everything is up to the result of the Leverkusen - Bayern Munich game from now on...

If Xabi Alonso's students don't win this game then it is technically over for them when it comes to the league title.    Even if they win the gap will be 5 points. They will need to hope for their rival to make simple point losses to hand the the title over to them. Would it happen? I don't think so though. We are talking about a Bayern Munich which have only 1 loss and 3 draws so far. They have a potential to collect 21 more points compared to the previous season. There is a huge progress now as a result.

Out of the three draws Bayern recorded this season one happens to be the match against Leverkusen at Bayern home stadium. When the both meet in DFB-pokal round of 16 they still lost to Leverkusen. This time Leverkusen will be hosting Bayern in the return leg for the season I will still. Judge this performance based on previous records.

Leverkusen are more aggressive against Bayern in terms of attacks and defensively as compared to when the play lesser teams
 Bayern might just warm up to get another 1 point from the match which doesn't change anything about their current position in the table but rather draws Leverkusen more closer but I doubt this two will ever get too close this season in points.

As was mentioned before there, the conditions in the DFB Pokal game were somewhat special due to the early red card given against Manuel Neuer in minute 17', but still this is part of football and is something that can occur. However, the game in Bayern's stadium against Bayer Leverkusen was both teams with full squads and in that game it became obvious that sometimes Bayern doesn't have a concept on how to overcome a strong defense. That is what Leverkusen did very well in that game and then used one of their few chances they had.

But in this home game I think Leverkusen won't be playing the same. This game is like all in, if they win it, the chance is still small to win the Bundesliga and if they lose it it doesn't matter because they have already lost the Bundesliga.

[Docnaster]

Dortmund is like Sevilla of UCL. Sevilla is famous for not being great at La Liga, do not even remember when was the last time they won that, probably not for many many decades, and yet they won Europa league all the time, they always won it and they did great there even when they sucked at the league. Same could be said about Dortmund when it comes to UCL, obviously Dortmund doesn't go and win the whole thing, but they rarely do terrible there, not as terrible as they do in the league.

There were few seasons when they did alright at the league, but in those seasons they didn't do well at UCL, after that was done, last year they did great at UCL right away. When you think of all this, you realize that they just give their focus a lot more to UCL instead.

The fact that Borussia Dortmund were able to reach the final of the UEFA Champions League competition last season despite their poor performance in the German Bundesliga shouldn't give you the impression that they'll also repeat same this season or make you want to compare them to Sevilla's records in the Europa League. Sevilla is the most successful club in the Europa League but it's been over two decades that Dortmund last won the UCL..

Considering their performance this season, I don't think they'll be able to get past the quarter finals of the competition

[pawel7777]

Leverkusen Vs Bayern is obviously the biggest game this weekend. Leverkusen absolutely have to win it if they are serious about defending their championship. But even then they would be 5 points behind which is still a big gap considering Bayern rarely lose points this season.
Odds are as follows:
Lverkusen: x2.90
Draw: x4.00
Bayern: x2.20

What's interesting is the head-to-head stats. In the last 5 games (all competitions) between those two teams, Bayern has zero wins, Leverkusen won three times and there were two draws.
I think we might see a split of points on Saturday.

[TelolettOm]

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Yeah, currently they are in the 11th position but 7 points separates 11th spot from top 4 in the Bundesliga which is actually realistic if they improve more than this and start winning games. If Dortmund is consistent enough from now till the end of the season, mathematically, thy can actually finish in top 4 in my opinion because the that spot is still open for any serious team.

If they can win at least 4 matches in the future, without a single draw or defeat, then at least their ranking will rise. This is an opportunity for Dortmund because at least, there are several matches that they can optimize and can win from these clubs. Because after that, they will face Leipzig in the 26th match, and then they must remain consistent with the victory, before having to face Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. If they always fail, yes this will be bad, even they will find it difficult to enter the UEL.

Source: Borussia Dortmund matches

[Weawant]

If they can win at least 4 matches in the future, without a single draw or defeat, then at least their ranking will rise. This is an opportunity for Dortmund because at least, there are several matches that they can optimize and can win from these clubs. Because after that, they will face Leipzig in the 26th match, and then they must remain consistent with the victory, before having to face Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. If they always fail, yes this will be bad, even they will find it difficult to enter the UEL.

Source: Borussia Dortmund matches

Looking at this fixtures,  I find leipzig and Berlin as the two tough games they will be having,  the others are such that they may actually manage to win at the end of the games so they could gather some points with the other fixtures and elevate their point to probably the top four onto ge table and not to be to win the title which I believe they may not even be willing to do. Leverkusen and Bayern are definitely going to be very challenging to them but if they can manage to get a point from one of the games and then from others they can still make it.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

I even thought that Dortmund was no longer so focused on the Bundesliga competition and only focused more on the Champions League competition even though they still couldn't win there. However, if we look at what happened to Dortmund last season in the Champions League, it was also a pretty great achievement because Dortmund was able to advance to the final even though they were defeated by Real Madrid in the final. But strangely enough, why didn't Dortmund fight hard in the Bundesliga to get their best position even though it wasn't for the champion position because it was more likely not possible at this time.

The competition in the Champions League is much more difficult and focusing on facing the Champions League also doesn't necessarily bring them a trophy because the competition is not easy. The Bundesliga is also important for them to think about because if they finish in the top 10 and fail in the Champions League then next season they won't play in the Champions League. In the remaining matches this season in the Bundesliga they have to maximize to get points so that they can slowly rise to a much better ranking and even though it's difficult they have to fight hard to get it.