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And now you want to kiss smooth..... Come on man, now your taking this a step too far.  Oh you're just jealous Or maybe it's Stockholm syndrome, LOL So you finally dropped by? Good to see you rusty, do you like what I've done with the place?  Well this really saddens me CH.  You're better than this and its upsetting to see you lower yourself down to smooth or even bentachs level of mudslinging. I know others may not agree with me here, but I really hope once you get things sorted out that you can come back home. Take care buddy. If you feel sad you can probably imagine how I feel. Thinking back on how much song & dance I raised over Zeuner months ago only to now find I am still without the review that I told everybody I know about. I have lost face and so has Shadow over this. As far as mudslinging (I assume you're referring to the POW phase stuff I linked). People will make up their own minds about that and can do so just by reading the first few pages of the original SDC thread as I did for the first time a couple weeks back. The censorship on the main SDC thread is totally out-of-control and LongAndShort's ANN only policy is bound to raise some eyebrows. I really dont see how asking questions about Zeuner in that thread is considered off-topic and I have little motivation at this point to struggle to post there without deletion, always wondering which of LongAndShorts triggers I might upset. It has almost always been about the anon for me: Darkcoin, Monero, Bytecoin, Cloakcoin, Bytecoin, Shadow A long and tiring pilgrimage indeed lasting three or so years. OUR COMMUNITY DESERVED THAT REPORT. DAMMIT - I DESERVED THAT REPORT  WITHOUT IT SHADOW CANNOT PROVE INNOVATION AND HAS LITTLE VALUE. Nobody will use the market or shaodwsend seriously until proper peer-review. By coincidence the most recent episode of LetsTalkBitcoin deals with the subject of peer review and whitepapers and discusses a new web-based peer review journal called Ledger. I suggest you submit the whitepaper to them (for free) and see what they have to say. AT one point one of the Ledger guys says that crypto projects would do well to have there stuff peer-reviewed before launch. Oh well. Still though …give it a go. https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-252-new-ideas-in-cryptocurrencyhttp://ledgerjournal.org/ojs/index.php/ledger/announcement/view/4Be courageous. This time next year Rusty…You're sitting on the sidelines as a a cheerleader wondering why you didn't get a championship ring when your team won it. Get involved. You should also stop spewing your claims of a solominer getting a majority of block rewards after a single mining pool went down when the block reward kicked in. It's pure bullshit. Given the entire spectrum of evidence, you will always be wrong about that. |
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My view:
Coins should use uncensored threads instead of moderated ones. That way these issues remain on the coins thread to be dealt with instead of adding new drama and threads to the site.
Child Harold may have made mistakes, but I can understand why he felt frustrated and wanted to vent after his posts kept getting deleted in the SDC thread.
Many investors avoid coins with moderated announcement threads altogether and I don't blame them. Those that speak the truth should not be scared of an open and unmoderated debate.
It's not a factor of trying to silence debate. Its keeping the announcement thread clean of spam. Valid concerns will not be deleted and ignored. We already addressed Child_Harold's concerns and provided him with the answers he did not want to hear, so he continued to spam the thread with fud. This is what a debate with CH looks like. CH: CLAIM1 OTHER: RESPONSE CH: CLAIM2 OTHER: RESPONSE CH: CLAIM3 OTHER: RESPONSE CH: CLAIM1, CLAIM3, CLAIM2, CLAIM3, CLAIM1 OTHER: RESPONSE CH: SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER Most of his arguments are unsound and even invalid. Commits many logical fallacies at once. And he spams for answers from people on this forum without attempting to contact them directly (every few weeks demanding a dev update when he could just send the devs a PM to find out how things are going, etc). |
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child_harold (OP)
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October 06, 2015, 01:39:59 PM |
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@wheatclove Is this ship sinking?
Whats going on?, i read about chickenstripes?, WTF?!
You read child_harold's fud attempt. His claims of no mining pool existing for 3 days and a solominer are completely false. Proof can be found with the blockchain and the original thread. I suggest you prove your point in my SDC thread (your posts here may well be deleted). Even if you are correct there is still the reduction of 20 million to 6 million and the PoW phase length reduction from 30 days to just 11. Why? Becuase of scrypt ASICs? Really? And there is for me, and maybe others, a crisis in trust due to the fact there is still no peer review and without peer review proving innovation SDC has little value. |
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October 06, 2015, 01:53:58 PM |
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@wheatclove Is this ship sinking?
Whats going on?, i read about chickenstripes?, WTF?!
You read child_harold's fud attempt. His claims of no mining pool existing for 3 days and a solominer are completely false. Proof can be found with the blockchain and the original thread. I suggest you prove your point in my SDC thread (your posts here may well be deleted). Even if you are correct there is still the reduction of 20 million to 6 million and the PoW phase length reduction from 30 days to just 11. Why? Becuase of scrypt ASICs? Really? And there is for me, and maybe others, a crisis in trust due to the fact there is still no peer review and without peer review proving innovation SDC has little value. |
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October 06, 2015, 02:02:48 PM |
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THE "FAIR" LAUNCHaka Proof-of-ChaosSome SDC community contest the solo miner theory and say it was a mining pool address although did not argue the point. Whether or not it was a solo miner we can safely say the launch wasn't fair and a 20 mill supply was reduced to 6 mill without any transparency after only 11 days. Re: your solominer theory: The chickenstrips pool goes down around block 119 (according to forum posts), that address you linked doesn't start mining until block 169. Would a malicious miner risk losing a potential 20,000 coins? Furthermore, block 169 is found 13 minutes after a new pool (coin-miners) is posted in the thread. Do you have any evidence that your "malicious miner" is not that pool? The address you posted stops mining (dates and times match) just before someone reports it as being down on the original thread. The operator reports his database corrupted and begins to accept deposit requests. Conclusion: the address you use for evidence is the address of the coin-miners pool. |
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child_harold (OP)
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October 06, 2015, 02:19:57 PM |
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THE "FAIR" LAUNCHaka Proof-of-ChaosSome SDC community contest the solo miner theory and say it was a mining pool address although did not argue the point. Whether or not it was a solo miner we can safely say the launch wasn't fair and a 20 mill supply was reduced to 6 mill without any transparency after only 11 days. Re: your solominer theory: The chickenstrips pool goes down around block 119 (according to forum posts), that address you linked doesn't start mining until block 169. Would a malicious miner risk losing a potential 20,000 coins? Furthermore, block 169 is found 13 minutes after a new pool (coin-miners) is posted in the thread. Do you have any evidence that your "malicious miner" is not that pool? The address you posted stops mining (dates and times match) just before someone reports it as being down on the original thread. The operator reports his database corrupted and begins to accept deposit requests. Conclusion: the address you use for evidence is the address of the coin-miners pool. 1. Even without a solo miner there are many questions raised 2. Proving me wrong should consist of a couple links to ShadoeCash tx's showing funds moving from the suspicious addy to the non-suspicious one. Do you have such a tx? Please link |
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October 06, 2015, 02:35:32 PM |
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THE "FAIR" LAUNCHaka Proof-of-ChaosSome SDC community contest the solo miner theory and say it was a mining pool address although did not argue the point. Whether or not it was a solo miner we can safely say the launch wasn't fair and a 20 mill supply was reduced to 6 mill without any transparency after only 11 days. Re: your solominer theory: The chickenstrips pool goes down around block 119 (according to forum posts), that address you linked doesn't start mining until block 169. Would a malicious miner risk losing a potential 20,000 coins? Furthermore, block 169 is found 13 minutes after a new pool (coin-miners) is posted in the thread. Do you have any evidence that your "malicious miner" is not that pool? The address you posted stops mining (dates and times match) just before someone reports it as being down on the original thread. The operator reports his database corrupted and begins to accept deposit requests. Conclusion: the address you use for evidence is the address of the coin-miners pool. 1. Even without a solo miner there are many questions raised 2. Proving me wrong should consist of a couple links to ShadoeCash tx's showing funds moving from the suspicious addy to the non-suspicious one. Do you have such a tx? Please link 1. The questions you asked beyond the solominer have been answered. Stop spamming this ambiguous crap. 2. The burden of proof is on the person forming the argument. I've addressed the premises of your original conclusion adequately enough to uproot your argument. |
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October 06, 2015, 02:59:02 PM |
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1. Even without a solo miner there are many questions raised
2. Proving me wrong should consist of a couple links to ShadoeCash tx's showing funds moving from the suspicious addy to the non-suspicious one.
Do you have such a tx? Please link
1. The questions you asked beyond the solominer have been answered. Stop spamming this ambiguous crap. 2. The burden of proof is on the person forming the argument. I've addressed the premises of your original conclusion adequately enough to uproot your argument. 1. Absolutely not. Even SDC Team member dasource (who I do not belive was involved with SDC in these early days) sayd he'll be launching his own investigation in order to restore faith. See below. 2 Are you telling me you cannot find a tx showing the transfer funds from the suspicious address to a non-suspicious one? That should be easy. Is this ship sinking?
Whats going on?, i read about chickenstripes?, WTF?!
You read child_harold's fud attempt. His claims of no mining pool existing for 3 days and a solominer are completely false. Proof can be found with the blockchain and the original thread. I suggest you prove your point in my SDC thread (your posts here may well be deleted). Even if you are correct there is still the reduction of 20 million to 6 million and the PoW phase length reduction from 30 days to just 11. Why? Becuase of scrypt ASICs? Really? And there is for me, and maybe others, a crisis in trust due to the fact there is still no peer review and without peer review proving innovation SDC has little value.
FACT there was never a concrete 20M Coin Supply .. you're inability to understand basic PoW/PoS hybrid mining is the issue here. Regarding the reduction of mining period and its real effect I will also review and post FACTUAL figures v.s. assumptions/speculation
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October 06, 2015, 03:10:05 PM |
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1. Even without a solo miner there are many questions raised
2. Proving me wrong should consist of a couple links to ShadoeCash tx's showing funds moving from the suspicious addy to the non-suspicious one.
Do you have such a tx? Please link
1. The questions you asked beyond the solominer have been answered. Stop spamming this ambiguous crap. 2. The burden of proof is on the person forming the argument. I've addressed the premises of your original conclusion adequately enough to uproot your argument. 1. Absolutely not. Even SDC Team member dasource (who I do not belive was involved with SDC in these early days) sayd he'll be launching his own investigation in order to restore faith. See below. 2 Are you telling me you cannot find a tx showing the transfer funds from the suspicious address to a non-suspicious one? That should be easy. Is this ship sinking?
Whats going on?, i read about chickenstripes?, WTF?!
You read child_harold's fud attempt. His claims of no mining pool existing for 3 days and a solominer are completely false. Proof can be found with the blockchain and the original thread. I suggest you prove your point in my SDC thread (your posts here may well be deleted). Even if you are correct there is still the reduction of 20 million to 6 million and the PoW phase length reduction from 30 days to just 11. Why? Becuase of scrypt ASICs? Really? And there is for me, and maybe others, a crisis in trust due to the fact there is still no peer review and without peer review proving innovation SDC has little value.
FACT there was never a concrete 20M Coin Supply .. you're inability to understand basic PoW/PoS hybrid mining is the issue here. Regarding the reduction of mining period and its real effect I will also review and post FACTUAL figures v.s. assumptions/speculation
1. I've replied to your "why did the devs cut mining short" on two separate threads. If you want a dev to answer you, PM them on slack. 2. No, I'm telling you I don't have to waste my time finding that evidence because you have no evidence proving that the initial coinbase rewards mined from that address were transferred to suspicious addresses in the first place. That argument was never made by you and no evidence exists to support that argument. Why am I supposed to counterargue? Do you understand how LOGIC works? Can you prove that you're not a troll? |
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October 06, 2015, 03:59:19 PM |
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well dasourec has already given his verdict - and it's not good.…
4. The big bad "solo miner"
I see nothing to suggest that the said address is a "solo miner"... Could it have been a select group of miners? like the Chinese ASIC that everyone wispers about in BCT? Could be who knows.
Can I say with absolute certainty that this address was a "solo miner"? No ... but I can equally not say with certainty if I had not already known that the "chickenstrips" address was a pool because both addresses show the same behaviours.
The suggesting that this was a "solo miner" is just "speculation at best".
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6. Unfair launch
You can make your own decisions about if this was a unfair launch or not; I have stated the facts above without any of the nonsense or other hidden agenda.
All of this info has been taken from the original thread + inspection of the blockchain.
What can I say? The address being debated: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ81.No tx's to connect the alleged solo mining addy to a known mining pool (good) addy 2 Actually the suspiciosu addy demonstartes diff behaviour fom a pool addy since it does not give out regular payouts and the balance only grows (thats why i got suspicious in the 1st place) 3 Could have been Chinese guys? OK 4 thanks for your honesty. as I have read twice from your post above you were not there in the beginning. Noted.
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child_harod, P3RS3US or Wanderlust, whoever of you are you right now.. I'm genuinely curious: What's your aim? Honestly, this thread has "hate" written all over in it. You either like SDC (which you obviously don't) or not. If not, move on and find a coin, with all the stuff that you need. From what I can say: - successful peer review
- really good distribution
- fair launch (or however you define that)
- anonymity
- regular dev updates
..about right? I tried to build that list based on my memory, what got you heated many times about Shadow. OR there's the other option, that you actually like Shadow (not that it seem like it anymore). In either way, why do you spam and flame SDC so much? I'm not flaming you right now, but be honest — were your posts always meaningful and to-the-topic? I know you're loving all the quotes, memes and many Youtube links; but when you flood the thread with this stuff and somewhere bury a legitimate thought in that from time to time, I wouldn't be so surprised that my posts were deleted. You ARE getting your answers, you just ignore them. If you like SDC, you could be more civil and ask the questions you want answered politely and well formulated. If you caps-yell in every direction, don't act hurt when this behaviour is disliked. If you don't like SDC, you're doing all this just as trolling, trying to hurt SDC. Really? That is you legacy? "I won't have SDC, so I'll make sure nobody will"? 'Cos that's like it seems (from my point of view). |
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October 06, 2015, 04:45:31 PM |
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well dasourec has already given his verdict - and it's not good.
His entire conclusion: So interestingly as someone who was not around during the PoW phase of Shadow I though I would look at how things played out.
1. ~20,000,000 Supply
Firstly notice the "~" this means "approximate" .. if you calculate total # of blocks * height the MAX SUPPLY was 19,952,120 (if every block was PoW)
2. Max Height = 50,000 blocks & 8 Hours PoS Min Stake
a. It is quite clear that at block 50,000, PoW would no longer be accepted by the network.
b. It is also quite clear that after 8 hours (>500 block maturity) you can "stake" your coins.
3. Claim that "chickenstrips" was official pool and that no other pools was present
Looking at the thread I see both of these claims as false.
a. "sdcoin" gave at least 2 hours notice before the start of mining
b. chickenstrips was available for pre-reg over 70 minutes before the mining started
c. second pool was available 60 mins after launch
d. third pool was available 85 mins after launch
e. etc etc
f. numerous people post that they were able to solo mine at launch
4. The big bad "solo miner"
I see nothing to suggest that the said address is a "solo miner"... Could it have been a select group of miners? like the Chinese ASIC that everyone wispers about in BCT? Could be who knows.
Can I say with absolute certainty that this address was a "solo miner"? No ... but I can equally not say with certainty if I had not already known that the "chickenstrips" address was a pool because both addresses show the same behaviours.
The suggesting that this was a "solo miner" is just "speculation at best".
5. The effect of 1,2,3 and 4 on the Coin Supply.
Like I said earlier, I was not around during the launch so cannot speak for what the state of the network mining was however what is clear is:
a. July 30th "sdcoin" announces that Max Height is to be reduced from 50,000 to 31,000.
b. At ~30,000 Block Height the Coin Supply was roughly 6.15M
c. Therefore if the mining had lasted the original 50,000 blocks the MAX SUPPLY would have been <10M due to the effects of the hybrid PoW/PoS mining. Infact in the blocks I analysed from the last few days of mining a large % were PoS.
d. Changing the max height requires consensus ... it is a hard fork. The miners/pools voted in favour by upgrading to that version. They were not forced to.
6. Unfair launch
You can make your own decisions about if this was a unfair launch or not; I have stated the facts above without any of the nonsense or other hidden agenda.
All of this info has been taken from the original thread + inspection of the blockchain.
To summarize: do your own research and make your own conclusions. Neither good or bad. |
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October 06, 2015, 06:13:22 PM |
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child_harod, P3RS3US or Wanderlust, whoever of you are you right now..
I'm genuinely curious: What's your aim?
The truth, innovative tech and anonymity in a world of control. What's yours? |
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October 06, 2015, 06:25:25 PM |
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child_harod, P3RS3US or Wanderlust, whoever of you are you right now..
I'm genuinely curious: What's your aim?
The truth, innovative tech and anonymity in a world of control. What's yours? And you do realize that what you do looks more like you're flaming the s#!t out of SDC, right? I'm curious why you're throwing dirt on Shadow. If you don't like it, nobody forces you to stay. My point is: there's a lot of other coins, which may even fit your needs better. Why staying here if you're not satisfied? Just saying – move on and don't hate anymore. Nobody profits there, really. You're just pissing a lot of people this way, for nothing. Well, for "truth", but yeah. I guess you get my point. |
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October 06, 2015, 07:16:31 PM |
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If you're going to pay someone a handful of BTC to do a review of the tech, why choose a random unknown who's not part of the crypto community? There are even really respected people involved with Bitcoin that will do serious analysis but under an assumed name as not to imply that their review is an endorsement(Monero has had this done with a few different 'big names' in Bitcoin I believe). And even if you want someone to do it under their real name, I don't think it's too difficult to find someone if you're actually paying money which Shadow appears to be doing.
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October 06, 2015, 07:32:51 PM |
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If you're going to pay someone a handful of BTC to do a review of the tech, why choose a random unknown who's not part of the crypto community? There are even really respected people involved with Bitcoin that will do serious analysis but under an assumed name as not to imply that their review is an endorsement(Monero has had this done with a few different 'big names' in Bitcoin I believe). And even if you want someone to do it under their real name, I don't think it's too difficult to find someone if you're actually paying money which Shadow appears to be doing.
Kristov Atlas and Peter Todd declined. Not sure who else was contacted. Greg Maxwell might be another potential, but may be a conflict of interest due to his involvement with CoinJoin. Most of the big names in crypto are consumed by Bitcoin projects. |
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And now you want to kiss smooth..... Come on man, now your taking this a step too far. Oh you're just jealous Or maybe it's Stockholm syndrome, LOL So you finally dropped by? Good to see you rusty, do you like what I've done with the place? Well this really saddens me CH. You're better than this and its upsetting to see you lower yourself down to smooth or even bentachs level of mudslinging. I know others may not agree with me here, but I really hope once you get things sorted out that you can come back home. Take care buddy. Please keep this thread for announcments primarily and constructive conversation. I encourage people not to engage with the trolls please.
Please dont get offended if your posts are deleted. It is to keep the thread clean of these pests. Sorry if you spent time replying to the trolls but it has to be clean or we just
open ourselves up for this rubish daily.
I'm sure you can all understand.
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i've heard that any posts from these pests that are repeating themselves and or dispespectful will get deleted, among a large list of other triggers.
If you reply to them, again, i encourage you not to get offended when your posts are deleted also. It is to remove them completely from this thread unless they are contributing in a constructive way.
We will not stand for this garbage anymore and will refuse to enable these unwell, disrespectful children who refuse to be reasonable and at least follow some sort of fair protocol.
Child-harold: if you wish to participate here you will follow the small ammount of rules set by the comunity.
You will not discuss things that are on your mind here anymore (repeat them over and over and over again and not accept the answers given). You will make your own thread and ANNOUNCE them here for people to go and disscuss them in the appropiate parts of this forum!
You will be respectful to your peers here and if you have questions about an update or anything else for that matter you will again, make your own thread and link to it here for discussion in the appropiate part of this forum.
This is an announcment thread, one that you are cluttering with your rants, one that you are disrespecting the entire comunity devs included with your paranoid delusions.. It will not be accepted by this comunity anymore and thus you will find your posts deleted unless you follow these simple rules and understand what Announcment means.
Call it what you will, these are the rules given to you all the same. I encourage you to try these things. Im sure you will be pleasantly surprised at how effective they are in regards to your ongoing concerns.
Everyone can yet again see that your reality is far from everyone elses. Your use of "out of control" and "chaos" are fear mongering tactics used by the very people you pretend to dispise. You were wanred and then some, countless times you said goodbye to everyone and told everyone that you would not be comming back to post in that thread yet you did. You are "out of control" and the comunity wishes to manage you. Stick to your hate thread, continue banging on about your rubish thoughts about Shadows past and future due to you inexperience and complete lack of knowledge in all of the areas you seem to feel are important thats fine. However, you have been given rules for participation in the Shadow Announcment thread. You continue to break them, yet your posts are still there. Stop the pitty party and pull your head in kid. You are way out of your depth. Again, i will suggest you make a clean thread with charts graphs and facts, not this conjecture hate thread filled with your bias! I promise you will get the answers you want. You wont so it just shows you are out to destroy yourself and everyone with you. Mainly you want and need attention. Hense no one wishing to play your game except that idiot smooth who still hasent taken the time to note the differences between the code yet still feels the need to give opinion on it. How long has said code been availible for him to note them? Exacly! Thus being an idiot with an agenda! Pull your head in CH, this is not becomming of a standup citizen, and is far from the correct way to be heard and respected! Its your choice not ours, so stop making it our problem when its clearly yours! Announcment means announcment, if you are going to avoid words based on you not beliving they are right then we may aswell not use words to comunicate at all! I see that you have chosen to make this thread in the altcoin discussion part of this forum. This shows you know the differnce between Announcment and discussion. It seems you only acknowledge them when it suits you. And refuse to abide by them, but only when it suits you. We are having a dicussion now based on the bias you filled the topic with. When you ask, plainly and coherantly the questions you pretend to seek. Then we can all discuss those, untill then this is a hate filled topic filled with conjecture from a misguided, unwell individual, who wishes to break the rules when it suits them. You are showing that you dont care at all for facts but just want to project your misguded assumtions onto anyone who will listen. Can you see where im heading with this point!? I hope so! Im sure you can but refuse to let it soak in properly. You are saying one thing, might i add i think its quite admirable in its own ways. But your actions are telling quite a different story. Actions speak much louder then words in most cases and yours are a stark contrast to the things slipped in between your conjecture. Stating you just want the truth. Your actions are showing you refuse to accept it and just want to continue fighting. I can see there is a trust breakdown between you and the Shadow comunity/devs. You wont seem to trust anyone but an outsider for now, hence feeling the desperation to have a peer review. I get that, however, what you are doing is ignoring the fact that the best equipped people to help you with this are the Shadow comunity/devs. You have effectivly driven a wedge between you and them. You need to look at that in my opinion, because the way you wish to be heard at the moment will never work for you as long as you continue to push the best equipped people to help you find your solution, away from you. Am i making sense? Continue on this path and you just show that you dont want answers but fights! Fights is what you will get untill you pull in your head, and come at this the correct and respectful way. I hope this is getting through to you, or else its a complete waste of my time, which might i add, your actions keep telling me it is. |
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October 06, 2015, 09:34:39 PM |
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well dasourec has already given his verdict - and it's not good.…
4. The big bad "solo miner"
I see nothing to suggest that the said address is a "solo miner"... Could it have been a select group of miners? like the Chinese ASIC that everyone wispers about in BCT? Could be who knows.
Can I say with absolute certainty that this address was a "solo miner"? No ... but I can equally not say with certainty if I had not already known that the "chickenstrips" address was a pool because both addresses show the same behaviours.
The suggesting that this was a "solo miner" is just "speculation at best".
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6. Unfair launch
You can make your own decisions about if this was a unfair launch or not; I have stated the facts above without any of the nonsense or other hidden agenda.
All of this info has been taken from the original thread + inspection of the blockchain.
What can I say? The address being debated: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ81.No tx's to connect the alleged solo mining addy to a known mining pool (good) addy 2 Actually the suspiciosu addy demonstartes diff behaviour fom a pool addy since it does not give out regular payouts and the balance only grows (thats why i got suspicious in the 1st place) 3 Could have been Chinese guys? OK 4 thanks for your honesty. as I have read twice from your post above you were not there in the beginning. Noted. I was looking into the code with all the discussion, Max_Money or Max Cap is at 2,000,000,000 Shadow (2 billion coins) That will be created in total ? what? |
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October 06, 2015, 10:27:56 PM |
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well dasourec has already given his verdict - and it's not good.…
4. The big bad "solo miner"
I see nothing to suggest that the said address is a "solo miner"... Could it have been a select group of miners? like the Chinese ASIC that everyone wispers about in BCT? Could be who knows.
Can I say with absolute certainty that this address was a "solo miner"? No ... but I can equally not say with certainty if I had not already known that the "chickenstrips" address was a pool because both addresses show the same behaviours.
The suggesting that this was a "solo miner" is just "speculation at best".
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6. Unfair launch
You can make your own decisions about if this was a unfair launch or not; I have stated the facts above without any of the nonsense or other hidden agenda.
All of this info has been taken from the original thread + inspection of the blockchain.
What can I say? The address being debated: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ81.No tx's to connect the alleged solo mining addy to a known mining pool (good) addy 2 Actually the suspiciosu addy demonstartes diff behaviour fom a pool addy since it does not give out regular payouts and the balance only grows (thats why i got suspicious in the 1st place) 3 Could have been Chinese guys? OK 4 thanks for your honesty. as I have read twice from your post above you were not there in the beginning. Noted. I was looking into the code with all the discussion, Max_Money or Max Cap is at 2,000,000,000 Shadow (2 billion coins) That will be created in total ? what? best i can remember, max_money refers to how many coins that can be spent in one transaction, and has nothing to do with the total coin supply. |
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And now you want to kiss smooth..... Come on man, now your taking this a step too far. Oh you're just jealous Or maybe it's Stockholm syndrome, LOL So you finally dropped by? Good to see you rusty, do you like what I've done with the place? Well this really saddens me CH. You're better than this and its upsetting to see you lower yourself down to smooth or even bentachs level of mudslinging. I know others may not agree with me here, but I really hope once you get things sorted out that you can come back home. Take care buddy. Please keep this thread for announcments primarily and constructive conversation. I encourage people not to engage with the trolls please.
Please dont get offended if your posts are deleted. It is to keep the thread clean of these pests. Sorry if you spent time replying to the trolls but it has to be clean or we just
open ourselves up for this rubish daily.
I'm sure you can all understand.
P.S
i've heard that any posts from these pests that are repeating themselves and or dispespectful will get deleted, among a large list of other triggers.
If you reply to them, again, i encourage you not to get offended when your posts are deleted also. It is to remove them completely from this thread unless they are contributing in a constructive way.
We will not stand for this garbage anymore and will refuse to enable these unwell, disrespectful children who refuse to be reasonable and at least follow some sort of fair protocol.
Child-harold: if you wish to participate here you will follow the small ammount of rules set by the comunity.
You will not discuss things that are on your mind here anymore (repeat them over and over and over again and not accept the answers given). You will make your own thread and ANNOUNCE them here for people to go and disscuss them in the appropiate parts of this forum!
You will be respectful to your peers here and if you have questions about an update or anything else for that matter you will again, make your own thread and link to it here for discussion in the appropiate part of this forum.
This is an announcment thread, one that you are cluttering with your rants, one that you are disrespecting the entire comunity devs included with your paranoid delusions.. It will not be accepted by this comunity anymore and thus you will find your posts deleted unless you follow these simple rules and understand what Announcment means.
Call it what you will, these are the rules given to you all the same. I encourage you to try these things. Im sure you will be pleasantly surprised at how effective they are in regards to your ongoing concerns.
Everyone can yet again see that your reality is far from everyone elses. Your use of "out of control" and "chaos" are fear mongering tactics used by the very people you pretend to dispise. You were wanred and then some, countless times you said goodbye to everyone and told everyone that you would not be comming back to post in that thread yet you did. You are "out of control" and the comunity wishes to manage you. Stick to your hate thread, continue banging on about your rubish thoughts about Shadows past and future due to you inexperience and complete lack of knowledge in all of the areas you seem to feel are important thats fine. However, you have been given rules for participation in the Shadow Announcment thread. You continue to break them, yet your posts are still there. Stop the pitty party and pull your head in kid. You are way out of your depth. Again, i will suggest you make a clean thread with charts graphs and facts, not this conjecture hate thread filled with your bias! I promise you will get the answers you want. You wont so it just shows you are out to destroy yourself and everyone with you. Mainly you want and need attention. Hense no one wishing to play your game except that idiot smooth who still hasent taken the time to note the differences between the code yet still feels the need to give opinion on it. How long has said code been availible for him to note them? Exacly! Thus being an idiot with an agenda! Pull your head in CH, this is not becomming of a standup citizen, and is far from the correct way to be heard and respected! Its your choice not ours, so stop making it our problem when its clearly yours! Announcment means announcment, if you are going to avoid words based on you not beliving they are right then we may aswell not use words to comunicate at all! I see that you have chosen to make this thread in the altcoin discussion part of this forum. This shows you know the differnce between Announcment and discussion. It seems you only acknowledge them when it suits you. And refuse to abide by them, but only when it suits you. We are having a dicussion now based on the bias you filled the topic with. When you ask, plainly and coherantly the questions you pretend to seek. Then we can all discuss those, untill then this is a hate filled topic filled with conjecture from a misguided, unwell individual, who wishes to break the rules when it suits them. You are showing that you dont care at all for facts but just want to project your misguded assumtions onto anyone who will listen. Can you see where im heading with this point!? I hope so! Im sure you can but refuse to let it soak in properly. You are saying one thing, might i add i think its quite admirable in its own ways. But your actions are telling quite a different story. Actions speak much louder then words in most cases and yours are a stark contrast to the things slipped in between your conjecture. Stating you just want the truth. Your actions are showing you refuse to accept it and just want to continue fighting. I can see there is a trust breakdown between you and the Shadow comunity/devs. You wont seem to trust anyone but an outsider for now, hence feeling the desperation to have a peer review. I get that, however, what you are doing is ignoring the fact that the best equipped people to help you with this are the Shadow comunity/devs. You have effectivly driven a wedge between you and them. You need to look at that in my opinion, because the way you wish to be heard at the moment will never work for you as long as you continue to push the best equipped people to help you find your solution, away from you. Am i making sense? Continue on this path and you just show that you dont want answers but fights! Fights is what you will get untill you pull in your head, and come at this the correct and respectful way. I hope this is getting through to you, or else its a complete waste of my time, which might i add, your actions keep telling me it is. Hmmm... Let me see... Fuck You |
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