Bitcoin Forum
August 23, 2019, 02:50:33 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.18.0 [Torrent] (New!)
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 [107] 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 ... 747 »
  Print  
Author Topic: IOTA  (Read 1356843 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
Tobo
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 763
Merit: 500


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 01:01:12 PM
 #2121

Who will run full nodes, it costs money, is there a reward for them to do this thing?
There are other types of incentives.

One of the incentives is the ability to access a free marketplace for them to sell and buy IoT data and other resources with zero fee. The benefit will be much bigger than the cost to of running a node.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1566571833
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566571833

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566571833
Reply with quote  #2

1566571833
Report to moderator
1566571833
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566571833

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566571833
Reply with quote  #2

1566571833
Report to moderator
Come-from-Beyond
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2128
Merit: 1009

Newbie


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 01:10:54 PM
 #2122

Those who care about incentives should read about altruism and its role in humankind evolution. Altruism is as old as greed, and one does not simply overcome patterns coded inside our genes.
50cent_rapper
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 02, 2016, 01:33:35 PM
 #2123

Those who care about incentives should read about altruism and its role in humankind evolution. Altruism is as old as greed, and one does not simply overcome patterns coded inside our genes.

$5 per month for hosting a node?
achimsmile
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
 #2124

Those who care about incentives should read about altruism and its role in humankind evolution. Altruism is as old as greed, and one does not simply overcome patterns coded inside our genes.

This is one of the most valuable statements on this forum.
Come-from-Beyond
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2128
Merit: 1009

Newbie


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 01:43:53 PM
 #2125

$5 per month for hosting a node?

Yes, why not.
Videodrome
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 503


Free Julian Assange


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:01:41 PM
 #2126

$5 per month for hosting a node?

Yes, why not.

a linux VPS month cost is about 1 euro on (www.aruba.com) so if i recharge 100% and ask also for unatantum 2 euro for the setup of the node  my special price for you is:

$4 per month

 Grin Grin

child_harold
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:38:58 PM
 #2127

Whats happening with the GUI at the moment? Is it being developed?

drays
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1638
Merit: 1022


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
 #2128

All IoT devices need a means of updating themselves.

Can/Could IOTA-connected devices self-update?

Its hard to be serious after all CfB posts on this, but I'll try, especially as CfB told we this have to be started from the scratch Smiley

Just replying, because this is very close to my area of specialization.

IOTA client is just one part of the firmware of a IoT device.
Unlike enthusiast devices (like RPi2 you mentioned) most smaller (including IoT) professional devices update their firmware as a whole, without letting every single component to update itself. This ensures the inter-operability of all the components of the device firmware. If every single component software is updated independently, this could brake something and in unattended update of this kind is always a risk.

Many IoT devices do not self-update at all. The ones which do, have to have it implemented for the device firmware in general.

So though self-update *could be* a part of IOTA client reference implementation, but it is not a very needed/important feature to implement, especially at these stages.

This was long... After reading CfB short replies, I am ashamed to write more than two lines of text...  Grin

... this space is not for rent ...
50cent_rapper
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:43:52 PM
 #2129

Whats happening with the GUI at the moment? Is it being developed?

I personally expect GUI and beta this week.
Can anyone confirm this?
Come-from-Beyond
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2128
Merit: 1009

Newbie


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:50:16 PM
 #2130

Its hard to be serious after all CfB posts on this, but I'll try, especially as CfB told we this have to be started from the scratch Smiley

Just replying, because this is very close to my area of specialization.

IOTA client is just one part of the firmware of a IoT device.
Unlike enthusiast devices (like RPi2 you mentioned) most smaller (including IoT) professional devices update their firmware as a whole, without letting every single component to update itself. This ensures the inter-operability of all the components of the device firmware. If every single component software is updated independently, this could brake something and in unattended update of this kind is always a risk.

Many IoT devices do not self-update at all. The ones which do, have to have it implemented for the device firmware in general.

So though self-update *could be* a part of IOTA client reference implementation, but it is not a very needed/important feature to implement, especially at these stages.

This was long... After reading CfB short replies, I am ashamed to write more than two lines of text...  Grin

Self-update can't be a part of Iota protocol. Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.

EDIT: I've just noticed "IOTA client is just one part of the firmware of a IoT device" part. My understanding of "IOTA-connected devices" is a device that sees Iota tangle (or part of it). "Iota-connected" makes special sense if we recall that Iota is designed for meshnets and currently used UDP protocol mimics meshnet behavior by making users to privately exchange node IPs/domains.
child_harold
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:56:18 PM
 #2131

@drays: Thanks very much. That helps
@CfB: Yes.

 Smiley Wink

yassin54
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 02:58:59 PM
 #2132

Whats happening with the GUI at the moment? Is it being developed?

I personally expect GUI and beta this week.
Can anyone confirm this?

David via Ryver iota yesterday :

"David SonsteboTue 10:04pm
Alright finally Dan (GUI dev) responded. I won't waste time going into details here, but he claims he'll have a explanation and HOPEFULLY be done tomorrow. I am taking this with a mine of salt, but at least it's the first communication from him in a week"

"David SonsteboTue 10:45pm(edited)
Anyways we'll just have to see tomorrow, if he doesn't deliver I have a plan B"


i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr





░░░░░░░░░▀▀▀█████████
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░████████
░░░░▄███████▄░░░░████████
░░░░███████████░░░░██████
░░░▀███████████░░░░████░░
███▄░░░░░░░░░░▀████░░░███░░██
█████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄████░░░██░░██
█████████████▄░░████░░░░░
░░█████████████░░█████
░░░░█████████▀░░░██████▌
░░░░░░░▀▀▀▀░░░░▄████████▌
░░░░░░░░░░▄▄▄▄███████
SuperNET.org
..BarterDEX..
.
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
DECENTRALIZED CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE
Developed to Unite Coin Communities | ✔ SECURE ✔ FREE ✔ VISIBILITY ✔ EASY INTEGRATION |

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬

child_harold
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
 #2133

Whats happening with the GUI at the moment? Is it being developed?

I personally expect GUI and beta this week.
Can anyone confirm this?

David via Ryver iota yesterday :

"David SonsteboTue 10:04pm
Alright finally Dan (GUI dev) responded. I won't waste time going into details here, but he claims he'll have a explanation and HOPEFULLY be done tomorrow. I am taking this with a mine of salt, but at least it's the first communication from him in a week"

"David SonsteboTue 10:45pm(edited)
Anyways we'll just have to see tomorrow, if he doesn't deliver I have a plan B"


i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

thanks yassin54
cmon GUI dev - u can do it!

50cent_rapper
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000



View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:08:52 PM
 #2134

Whats happening with the GUI at the moment? Is it being developed?

I personally expect GUI and beta this week.
Can anyone confirm this?

David via Ryver iota yesterday :

"David SonsteboTue 10:04pm
Alright finally Dan (GUI dev) responded. I won't waste time going into details here, but he claims he'll have a explanation and HOPEFULLY be done tomorrow. I am taking this with a mine of salt, but at least it's the first communication from him in a week"

"David SonsteboTue 10:45pm(edited)
Anyways we'll just have to see tomorrow, if he doesn't deliver I have a plan B"


i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

thanks yassin54
cmon GUI dev - u can do it!

I know this kind of fuckers who disappear I hire one for website development. In 80% cases they appears after a week to say "I was ill but soon you'll get the job you paid for", then they answer to you every day: "it will be done in a few days", then they disappear to come back in a month and say: "Sorry I can't do it at all, take your money back"  Sad
Videodrome
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 503


Free Julian Assange


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:12:42 PM
 #2135



i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

I have also sent a message.Please people do all the same.

Quote
Hello,

i'm a IOTA investor.We have paid for a job and you don't answer to our Project manager David Sønstebø.

If you do not reply with sufficient justifications I will be obliged to proceed through legal channels to protect my investment.

This is not the way to work, we are a very large community and we will not make life easy if you do not justify your delay.

Sincerely.

a very unhappy customer .
rtrtcrypto
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 627
Merit: 500


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:16:38 PM
 #2136

Guys, cool it with the threats.
Not time for that at this stage.



i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

I have also sent a message.Please people do all the same.

Quote
Hello,

i'm a IOTA investor.We have paid for a job and you don't answer to our Project manager David Sønstebø.

If you do not reply with sufficient justifications I will be obliged to proceed through legal channels to protect my investment.

This is not the way to work, we are a very large community and we will not make life easy if you do not justify your delay.

Sincerely.

a very unhappy customer .

achimsmile
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
 #2137



i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

I have also sent a message.Please people do all the same.

Quote
Hello,

i'm a IOTA investor.We have paid for a job and you don't answer to our Project manager David Sønstebø.

If you do not reply with sufficient justifications I will be obliged to proceed through legal channels to protect my investment.

This is not the way to work, we are a very large community and we will not make life easy if you do not justify your delay.

Sincerely.

a very unhappy customer .


Let's not lynch this guy after a week of delay.
Come-from-Beyond
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2128
Merit: 1009

Newbie


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:21:14 PM
 #2138

Guys, cool it with the threats.

Right, we should do it a-la crypto and place a bounty on Silk Road 4 (or what is the most recent number?)



jk
drays
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1638
Merit: 1022


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:22:42 PM
 #2139

Self-update can't be a part of Iota protocol. Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.

Definitely. But it could be a part of "IOTA client" aka some SW piece which uses IOTA protocol, right?

I didn't fully get the second part though.. Assuming we are talking about newly released/updated firmware code..

Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.
or
Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.

I hope its the first one, otherwise I'm confused and/or need a lot of reading...

... this space is not for rent ...
Videodrome
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 503


Free Julian Assange


View Profile
March 02, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
 #2140



i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

I have also sent a message.Please people do all the same.

Quote
Hello,

i'm a IOTA investor.We have paid for a job and you don't answer to our Project manager David Sønstebø.

If you do not reply with sufficient justifications I will be obliged to proceed through legal channels to protect my investment.

This is not the way to work, we are a very large community and we will not make life easy if you do not justify your delay.

Sincerely.

a very unhappy customer .


Let's not lynch this guy after a week of delay.

Sorry guys if the terms legal can be too aggressive.

But my message is a personal message were i begin the message with "I am a IOTA investor", so is explicit is a message from an unhappy investor not a dev.

But if already 2 person have noticed "the aggression" i will delete the term "legal action" or the entire message...


Do i have to do that?

I wold like to help IOTA not the reverse!
Pages: « 1 ... 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 [107] 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 ... 747 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!