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March 02, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
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i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr
I have also sent a message.Please people do all the same.
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i'm a IOTA investor.We have paid for a job and you don't answer to our Project manager David Sønstebø.
If you do not reply with sufficient justifications I will be obliged to proceed through legal channels to protect my investment.
This is not the way to work, we are a very large community and we will not make life easy if you do not justify your delay.
Sincerely.
a very unhappy customer .

We probably should let David handle the business affairs. We need to be professional and trustworthy in term of business communication. At least get a green light from David before you send it out. Just my 2 cents.
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March 02, 2016, 03:36:45 PM
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Definitely. But it could be a part of "IOTA client" aka some SW piece which uses IOTA protocol, right?

I didn't fully get the second part though.. Assuming we are talking about newly released/updated firmware code..

Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.
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Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.

I hope its the first one, otherwise I'm confused and/or need a lot of reading...


I assume that Iota client is included into firmware.

Regarding the question, it's the second one. If the device doesn't allow rewriting then Iota can do nothing.
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March 02, 2016, 03:37:24 PM
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My two cents (iotas),

Never threaten legal action unless you mean it and know what you are doing - and you don't mean (and also don't know what you are doing, because you have no case here at this juncture).

Also, let's not set a precedent where we as a community start spamming and handling business related problems on the negotiation level - it will cause noise and confusion. Let David and team handle these issues. Imagine if there is a problem or delay in the future with a large entity (say, microsoft), are we going to spam and threaten to sue microsoft over similar issues? Probably not under this type of scenario we face now.

The GUI will come soon or this person will be fired and we will wait once more - that's life. I think this guy will come through.




i have sent message for GUI dev here : https://plus.google.com/117135058210150911432/posts?hl=fr

I have also sent a message.Please people do all the same.

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Hello,

i'm a IOTA investor.We have paid for a job and you don't answer to our Project manager David Sønstebø.

If you do not reply with sufficient justifications I will be obliged to proceed through legal channels to protect my investment.

This is not the way to work, we are a very large community and we will not make life easy if you do not justify your delay.

Sincerely.

a very unhappy customer .


Let's not lynch this guy after a week of delay.

Sorry guys if the terms legal can be too aggressive.

But my message is a personal message were i begin the message with "I am a IOTA investor", so is explicit is a message from an unhappy investor not a dev.

But if already 2 person have noticed "the aggression" i will delete the term "legal action" or the entire message...


Do i have to do that?

I wold like to help IOTA not the reverse!
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March 02, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
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Definitely. But it could be a part of "IOTA client" aka some SW piece which uses IOTA protocol, right?

I didn't fully get the second part though.. Assuming we are talking about newly released/updated firmware code..

Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.
or
Iota just allows to fetch firmware code and rewrite it even without Internet.

I hope its the first one, otherwise I'm confused and/or need a lot of reading...


I assume that Iota client is included into firmware.

Regarding the question, it's the second one. If the device doesn't allow rewriting then Iota can do nothing.

So... Iota allows to fetch firmware code even without Internet...?  Huh Are talking about new/updated firmware, which was not available during the release of the device and/or during the time it was  actually connected to Internet?

How it will get the updated/new firmware code without Internet..? Now I am confused.

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March 02, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
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But my message is a personal message were i begin the message with "I am a IOTA investor", so is explicit is a message from an unhappy investor not a dev.

But the fact that you know his contact information already got David involved. Just be thoughtful. I understand you want to help and I appreciate it.
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March 02, 2016, 03:57:30 PM
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My two cents (iotas),

Never threaten legal action unless you mean it and know what you are doing - and you don't mean (and also don't know what you are doing, because you have no case here at this juncture).

Also, let's not set a precedent where we as a community start spamming and handling business related problems on the negotiation level - it will cause noise and confusion. Let David and team handle these issues. Imagine if there is a problem or delay in the future with a large entity (say, microsoft), are we going to spam and threaten to sue microsoft over similar issues? Probably not under this type of scenario we face now.

The GUI will come soon or this person will be fired and we will wait once more - that's life. I think this guy will come through.

Agreed. Hopefully we can find someone to maintain, bug fix, and upgrade the UI from the community here, seems like there are plenty of qualified people on BTT that would be interested in Iota.
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March 02, 2016, 03:57:45 PM
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So... Iota allows to fetch firmware code even without Internet...?  Huh Are talking about new/updated firmware, which was not available during the release of the device and/or during the time it was  actually connected to Internet?

How it will get the updated/new firmware code without Internet..? Now I am confused.

Iota messaging allows to transfer any data, firmware code is just a special case of data. Iota messages are sent as packets which can be broadcasted via radio or tunneled via any messaging protocol. Iota gives a way to create economic incentive to deliver messages into areas not reachable by Internet.

These factors allow to update firmware. Firmware supplier needs only to publish the code into Iota tangle. Eventually every device will get it.
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March 02, 2016, 03:58:56 PM
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My two cents (iotas),

Never threaten legal action unless you mean it and know what you are doing - and you don't mean (and also don't know what you are doing, because you have no case here at this juncture).

Also, let's not set a precedent where we as a community start spamming and handling business related problems on the negotiation level - it will cause noise and confusion. Let David and team handle these issues. Imagine if there is a problem or delay in the future with a large entity (say, microsoft), are we going to spam and threaten to sue microsoft over similar issues? Probably not under this type of scenario we face now.

The GUI will come soon or this person will be fired and we will wait once more - that's life. I think this guy will come through.

Yeap. I always think that it doesn't make sense to be angry, you just need to fire bad employee as soon possible.
If he will not deliver GUI today, its intelligent to fire him, not giving endless additional days, be angry, etc.
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March 02, 2016, 03:59:43 PM
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Iota messaging allows to transfer any data, firmware code is just a special case of data. Iota messages are sent as packets which can be broadcasted via radio or tunneled via any messaging protocol. Iota gives a way to create economic incentive to deliver messages into areas not reachable by Internet.

These factors allow to update firmware. Firmware supplier needs only to publish the code into Iota tangle. Eventually every device will get it.

That's pretty amazing.
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March 02, 2016, 04:02:04 PM
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Thanks for your opinion.

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i'm a IOTA investor.Do you have any news about GUI relase?

Thanks.

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March 02, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
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So... Iota allows to fetch firmware code even without Internet...?  Huh Are talking about new/updated firmware, which was not available during the release of the device and/or during the time it was  actually connected to Internet?

How it will get the updated/new firmware code without Internet..? Now I am confused.

Iota messaging allows to transfer any data, firmware code is just a special case of data. Iota messages are sent as packets which can be broadcasted via radio or tunneled via any messaging protocol. Iota gives a way to create economic incentive to deliver messages into areas not reachable by Internet.

These factors allow to update firmware. Firmware supplier needs only to publish the code into Iota tangle. Eventually every device will get it.

Oh, thanks a lot, that explains it. I was confused by the "not connected to Internet" part, now I see what you mean. Sure Internet is not the only way to transfer information to/from device, especially for a solid players in such field as IoT.

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March 02, 2016, 04:12:52 PM
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That's pretty amazing.

And dangerous.
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My two cents (iotas),

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March 02, 2016, 04:24:34 PM
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Hey guys, is there any safe place where I can test my password? I don't completely remember it and want to check if the input matches my output address.
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March 02, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
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Hey guys, is there any safe place where I can test my password? I don't completely remember it and want to check if the input matches my output address.

this work well

http://188.138.57.93/addressgenerator.html

for security matter wait cfb answer!
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March 02, 2016, 04:30:29 PM
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Hey guys, is there any safe place where I can test my password? I don't completely remember it and want to check if the input matches my output address.

this work well

http://188.138.57.93/addressgenerator.html

for security matter wait cfb answer!

Thanks, I'll wait his response to make sure site has not been compromised. Ill download it and check offline.
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March 02, 2016, 04:32:40 PM
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Inspected the source, 100% safe Cheesy
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March 02, 2016, 04:33:19 PM
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Thanks, I'll wait his response to make sure site has not been compromised. Ill download it and check offline.

Download the html file and store locally. Disconnect from the Internet and run the file.
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March 02, 2016, 04:37:31 PM
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Yes, you misunderstand...
That just means:

"In my opinion..."





My two cents (iotas),

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Is the % of iota owned also the percentage of thoughts that can be expressed in the community?

how do you know what my share is?

i hope i misunderstand your words because my bad english... Grin Grin Grin
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