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May 30, 2016, 08:29:00 AM |
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@Cfb: everyone who invest in a project is a speculator! You should define precisely who are the speculators you don't like.
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javi618
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May 30, 2016, 08:30:29 AM |
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I agree, a 5% premine would suit me fine.
Agree. It´s the best solution.
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WorldCoiner
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May 30, 2016, 08:35:48 AM |
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I agree, a 5% premine would suit me fine.
Agree. It´s the best solution. Yeah, but it's too late. ICO with other conditions was done. Now we have to deal with it.
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coloredcoin
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May 30, 2016, 08:49:31 AM |
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I use this http://188.138.57.93/addressgenerator.html set seed to generate a address,and someone send me some IOTAs to my address.. But I did not find any address when I login wallet with the seed,Just find a 'generate a new address' button. What should I do to receive my IOTA? Thanks.
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ElitistCA
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May 30, 2016, 09:06:03 AM |
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Im not invested, but I think it is more important to make project succesful than make everyone happy.
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bahamapascal
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May 30, 2016, 09:24:35 AM |
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I use this http://188.138.57.93/addressgenerator.html set seed to generate a address,and someone send me some IOTAs to my address.. But I did not find any address when I login wallet with the seed,Just find a 'generate a new address' button. What should I do to receive my IOTA? Thanks. Hi coloredcoin, The 'generate a new address' button is what you have to use to generate a new address. "Addressgenerator.html" was used for ICO purpose only.
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yassin54
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May 30, 2016, 09:24:51 AM |
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I agree, a 5% premine would suit me fine.
Agree. It´s the best solution. Yeah, but it's too late. ICO with other conditions was done. Now we have to deal with it.Agree with you, a deal is a deal!! Now lets go for donate to foundation!! (if you can of course)
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LitcoinCollector
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May 30, 2016, 10:13:32 AM Last edit: May 30, 2016, 12:03:51 PM by LitcoinCollector |
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I agree, a 5% premine would suit me fine.
Agree. It´s the best solution. Yeah, but it's too late. ICO with other conditions was done. Now we have to deal with it.Agree with you, a deal is a deal!! Now lets go for donate to foundation!! (if you can of course) Yes as I said I would mean the rules have to be changed a bit. I don't see a big problem. Again things change, it is how you deal with these changes. A lot of Iota holders are not very comfortable, this is what is holding up the donations. I think there are 2 options to speed up the process: - 5% 'premine' or - Iota qt client for easy sending the tokens
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rtrtcrypto
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May 30, 2016, 10:14:00 AM |
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It would be wise to allow donations in BTC, could we get an explanation on the hesitation for that move? Thx
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50cent_rapper
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May 30, 2016, 10:23:58 AM |
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It would be wise to allow donations in BTC, could we get an explanation on the hesitation for that move? Thx
Cause iota is much more valuable then bitcoin - it's easy
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rtrtcrypto
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May 30, 2016, 10:37:57 AM |
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Yes. So why throw away IOTA to fund salaries when I can throw away BTC? Further, if the foundation believes that IOTA is more valuable why not hold on to IOTA reserves and fund foundation from BTC donations? I'm not seeing why salaries that will be converted into FIAT need to be given in IOTA??? It would be wise to allow donations in BTC, could we get an explanation on the hesitation for that move? Thx
Cause iota is much more valuable then bitcoin - it's easy
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50cent_rapper
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May 30, 2016, 10:44:36 AM |
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We can also go the same way as wikipedia (or other foundations) - gathering funds every year. I'm looking at https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/Amount Raised: $214,267 Goal: $1,250,000 Donors: 431 And it's also possible to get help from IOT companies using IOTA. May be David's approach all or nothing is too hardcore - how about this: run foundation until there is funds. If there is no funds - nobody work at foundation. You know, view this more like funding multiple projects under foundation, not just regular job. Stas (probably foundation member) is, for example, in Wings project. He will never spend 100% of his time on IOTA.
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WorldCoiner
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May 30, 2016, 11:07:39 AM |
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We can also go the same way as wikipedia (or other foundations) - gathering funds every year. I'm looking at https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/Amount Raised: $214,267 Goal: $1,250,000 Donors: 431 And it's also possible to get help from IOT companies using IOTA. May be David's approach all or nothing is too hardcore - how about this: run foundation until there is funds. If there is no funds - nobody work at foundation. You know, view this more like funding multiple projects under foundation, not just regular job. Stas (probably foundation member) is, for example, in Wings project. He will never spend 100% of his time on IOTA. My asumption was always, start the foundation with 50% founding (2.5% of all IOTA) and collect the Rest during time. Should be possible, like Nxt was able to collect 10 mio for project Tennessee, 22 Months after the ICO. There are several other examples that Community is able and willing to spend.
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hoertest
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May 30, 2016, 11:35:04 AM |
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how about one step after another. Finish it. Launch it with a positive vibe. Let it hit Exchanges. See where we end up and stabilize in real live purchasing power. give people the opportunity to donate the whole time. then decide if the collected funds aren't enough incentive to work on when its clear how much wealth they resemble in terms of usd or whatever relatively stable.
And stop using the word speculator like it means childmolester or something. I bougt iota after the ico and yes i speculate on this purchase to make my financial sitution better in the long run one way or the other. I don't feel guilty for that. i would also donate some in the future when there is some price stability. no problem.
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BlackFor3st
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May 30, 2016, 11:41:36 AM |
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Yes. So why throw away IOTA to fund salaries when I can throw away BTC? Further, if the foundation believes that IOTA is more valuable why not hold on to IOTA reserves and fund foundation from BTC donations? I'm not seeing why salaries that will be converted into FIAT need to be given in IOTA??? It would be wise to allow donations in BTC, could we get an explanation on the hesitation for that move? Thx
Cause iota is much more valuable then bitcoin - it's easy I also have problemes to understand why donations in BTC are not allowed?
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Come-from-Beyond (OP)
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May 30, 2016, 11:41:52 AM |
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And stop using the word speculator like it means childmolester or something. I bougt iota after the ico and yes i speculate on this purchase to make my financial sitution better in the long run one way or the other. I don't feel guilty for that. i would also donate some in the future when there is some price stability. no problem.
Noone says you should feel guilty, but our goals are different and I prefer if you sell in the beginning so other people with goals similar to mine will replace you. Nothing personal, just business.
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Tobo
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May 30, 2016, 11:46:52 AM |
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I agree, a 5% premine would suit me fine.
Agree. It´s the best solution. Agreed.
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farl4web
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May 30, 2016, 11:48:12 AM |
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And stop using the word speculator like it means childmolester or something. I bougt iota after the ico and yes i speculate on this purchase to make my financial sitution better in the long run one way or the other. I don't feel guilty for that. i would also donate some in the future when there is some price stability. no problem.
Noone says you should feel guilty, but our goals are different and I prefer if you sell in the beginning so other people with goals similar to mine will replace you. Nothing personal, just business. How would you describe your goal?
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mladen00
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May 30, 2016, 11:49:59 AM |
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I agree, a 5% premine would suit me fine.
Agree. It´s the best solution. Agreed. Agreed
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May 30, 2016, 11:50:48 AM |
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@Come-from-Beyond thanks for your help. I see 71155993600 sent to WMWSMLAJOZBWFJ9SOUGS9RCZXBPFKHVOHE9JHF9YEECQTKKUCUFADGLUHKGKFBKFWSMBCDAOMILSGSN KO. Maybe you use another seed? Try to generate few new addresses, is one of them WMWSMLA...DAOMILSGSNKO?
I explain the whole story 1. March 18, with a seed, generated a address in http://collect.iotatoken.com/the address is: WMWSMLAJOZBWFJ9SOUGS9RCZXBPFKHVOHE9JHF9YEECQTKKUCUFADGLUHKGKFBKFWSMBCDAOMILSGSN KO hereinafter AddressW2. March 20, @child_harold sends me a transfer of 20000 IOTA to AddressWThis is the code: {"address": "WMWSMLAJOZBWFJ9SOUGS9RCZXBPFKHVOHE9JHF9YEECQTKKUCUFADGLUHKGKFBKFWSMBCDAOMILSGSN KO", "partialBalances": [{"value": "20000000000000", "persistence": 100}]} AddressW appears in the new block genesis with 20000 IOTA 3. April 17, Technical update . AddressW happens to have a balance of 55 590 620 000 IOTA 4. May 27, @Bitme makes this transfer to AddressW: 71155993600 IOTA to WMWSMLAJOZBWFJ9SOUGS9RCZXBPFKHVOHE9JHF9YEECQTKKUCUFADGLUHKGKFBKFWSMBCDAOMILSGSN KO 5. 29 May I enter wallet IRI-0.9.15 + Nostalgia with Point 1 seed it appears AddressWclick Claim IOTA and after donate 1%, the message is : Donated 555906200 of 55590620000 iotas I think the problem is that for the 2nd transfer have given the same Address, but my intention was to have all my IOTA at the same address
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