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I don't think that Simmons can be a "shooting" guard, we all know that his one of his weak points, he can't shoot outside. He is more of a drive by player and assists man, so really a point guard. So now sure how they can space things up with Kyrie and Ben at the same time. Or it could be Irving and Simmons alternating as PG for the Nets, and then KD doing his thing and then Seth as their shooting guard. But we will have to see what kind of adjustment Nash will do with his 3 superstars that might overlap the position.
I would like to see them playing small, with Joe, Kyrie, Seth, Ben and KD with good ball movement. This lineup inside may work for the Nets. Even in this small squad all are also good in defense, though Seth might be the weak side if in case he needs to guard a much bigger and quicker star, but all four do know how to play tight defense if needed. It's more on how Nash will design their plays and what kind of system that will fill the weak side, just like how the Warriors, when they are playing small, offense become their defense and it can be duplicated or can be enhanced if all these players inside will be determined to win a game together. I’m not expecting that Simmons can provide that kind expectation play that you are just assuming after he comes back but having him as PG assuming he will be performing in his prime will gonna give Nets an edge for the upcoming season if KD and Kyrie didn’t trade successfully but since these players heart is not with the Nets anymore then I doubt they can provide an explosive performance on the upcoming regular season for Nets because we alp know that there Playoffs choke gives them a major turn off. They really need to have a better 6th man to give relieve to the team once starters is resting because this is there main problem aside from Seth Curry being not effective on crucial times of the game.
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It's funny to see how quickly Durant changes his mind. Let me remind you that he tried to put an ultimatum to the Nets' owner a couple of weeks ago, and now they somehow managed to reach some kind of agreement. Honestly, I think Durant has been acting a little weird this offseason, and he definitely deserves to get some boos from Nets fans during the first home game of the upcoming season. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why the NBA Twitter world is reacting to that awkward return of Kevin Durant. Those he requested to be fired, GM Sean Marks and Coach Steve Nash, had some serious talk with him. Seems KD really got his head too big as I read, Steve Nash convinced Durant to stay despite the latter wanting him to be fired. Alright, now that the KD drama is ended, hoping for Durant to do his very best next season. Wow! I am glad Nash acts like that. I can't do that if I were him. KD said some nasty things against him and as his coach, it must have hurt his feelings, and yet he is the one who convinced him to stay. This is good. Some chemistry happening in their team. I am expecting better things to happen after this and so with Kyrie. Last year I expected them to be at the top of the league but was a disappointment, perhaps now it will be different. Yes even if I'm on Steve Nash, I can't talk to the person who have a grudge against me and wants to fire me out of the organization. He even convince Durant to stay despite him having a bad approach to him. That's what you called a good pride compare to the big pride that Durant, Irving and Simmons have lol. Nash still thinks what better for the whole team instead of exchanging bad words against Durant. Their GM also extends his kindness to Durant. I hope Durant will realized that good and kind act did by him from the Nets Owner, General Manager and his Head Coach. I don't know what to think about him now if he will remain arrogant despite that good approach by him to those he want to fired. That is the exact gesture of true professionals, they sacrifice themselves to set aside their emotions and chooses to do the job they are assigned even if Durant was kind of getting inside of their head because of the specific move that Durant made Joe Tsai choose. Head Coach and General Manager was just trying to set an example for the whole team so that there would be no one who would try and follow Durant's egoistic footsteps.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FPwgVqwP%2Fjazz.jpg&t=665&c=d-mhkg_ZgN28vw) I think what the Knicks offered for Donovan Mitchell was reasonable. As compared to what they are being offered for Donovan Mitchell, the Jazz want a significant upgrade over what they are being offered now. It's crazy how Utah Jazz is still rejecting New York Knicks' offer for Mitchell. Was it 5 future draft picks already? Plus a young Toppin who's still very useful in case the Jazz is playoffs-ready in 3 years or more. They really do not want Mitchell to go away from the team. On the other hand, Mitchell does not want to stay on the team at all. If I am not wrong Mitchell Donovan actually wants to get out of Utah. Meanwhile, super rich Los Angeles Lakers is still hoping for some trades and acquisitions before the season starts. Another target for them is Buddy Hield whom Lebron also wanted even before.
I think the Lakers are trying to trade Russell Westbrook for Buddy Hield and another player. I am not sure who that might be but I suspect it is Myles Turner. Really not sure how that is going to work out for the team. But since LeBron James wants him on the team I guess they have some plans regarding Buddy Hield. I think it's Hield and Turner from the Pacers? Perhaps Toppin might be good, but Fornier? they might be looking for another more name player in the Knicks lineup that's why the didn't accept it. The Lakers is just finalizing the Pat Bev acquisition, gonna be interesting to see Bev in Lakers uniform and obviously the experience is what brings him to the Lakers and of course his tough defense.
That's gonna be very big if the Lakers can also acquire Turner. I do not know how or why the Pacers are just giving up its star players and acting like a rebuilding team. They already wasted a lot of talent which they will try to get from future draft picks. Malcolm Brogdon for example for a bunch of extras the Celtics wanted to avoid and a 2023 draft pick. The Celtics are favorites to win the next season's trophy so Indiana may settle for pick 30. Fournier will become a mentor since he will be old by the time the Jazz becomes a playoff team again. I agree that it is going to be great for the Lakers if they can get Hield and Turner by trading Russell Westbrook. But I also don’t get why the Pacers are giving away their star players!! ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) They could have just kept them and if they really needed to make some changes, they could have built a team around them. Pat is experienced but also with an ego together with Lebron and Russ. They will collide if they always lose games. Pat is the guy that can be honest and will tell Russ to his face that he sucks. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I expect LeBron and Russ to welcome Pat to the team. But as you said if the results are not there, there will surely be some problems between these players. And that is going to invite more bad results for the team.
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He joined Embiid, Simmons and Griffin as the rookies who lost their rookie years due to injuries as Woj said on Twitter. TBH, I'm not surprised that it happened. Just look at his frame and his body. Yes, he is athletic during the college, but it is different in the NBA. Now he must sit the whole upcoming season to rehabilitate and aside from rehabilitating, he must gain weight as well and make his body bulkier because just look at the bigs of the NBA. How can he defend those if he will stay on that kind of body. I don't know though with what you said that he will hurt himself every year, but if he will not do something to his body then that might be the case for him. Overall, a loss for the Thunder this season, but he can just come back next season since he is still a rookie. Hoping the best and fast recovery for him.
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He joined Embiid, Simmons and Griffin as the rookies who lost their rookie years due to injuries as Woj said on Twitter. TBH, I'm not surprised that it happened. Just look at his frame and his body. Yes, he is athletic during the college, but it is different in the NBA. Now he must sit the whole upcoming season to rehabilitate and aside from rehabilitating, he must gain weight as well and make his body bulkier because just look at the bigs of the NBA. How can he defend those if he will stay on that kind of body. I don't know though with what you said that he will hurt himself every year, but if he will not do something to his body then that might be the case for him. Overall, a loss for the Thunder this season, but he can just come back next season since he is still a rookie. Hoping the best and fast recovery for him. 7 footers who try to defend hard and are active on the offensive side almost never can play a full year. Just to much height for hips knees and feet to withstand the rigors of the NBA. Bet he is out of the league in 5 years and max averages 6-10 points a game. His body structure doesn't look like he can add bulk. People keep trying with these lanky tall guys and it never works out.
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August 25, 2022, 06:08:58 PM |
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Yes, probably he'll retire in Lakers but that ain't sure as of now because he also said that he would follow his son to whichever team Bronny will fall. The good thing about Lebron is that he doesn't really rely on his talent alone because he knew that it wouldn't make him what he is today if he will just rely on his talent all the way, he added some extra recipe for him to be great and that is the dedication and hard work.
Maybe Lakers will bring Bronny to the team in respect to LeBron, not sure though what future will be for this father and Son journey but it's something that NBA can treasure if both will be playing in one uniform and share talents inside the court. With the look of LeBron's shape. He is still capable of playing for more than 2-years unless major injuries will happen before that, but if there's nothing as we know him playing, he is good at taking good care of his health, so the chance is really possible. That is if Bronny will fall into the Lakers hand if he'll get drafted by next year, but the Lebron and the management knows that there's a just a little probability that they could host the father and son wearing their jersey. In fact, Lebron won't have a hard time transferring to any other team in the league as any team in the NBA will be much happy to get Lebron and Bronny in their franchise and be part of the first time in history that there will be a father and son playing together professionally. Bronny to the NBA is no sure fire thing. He is a fringe top 50 player in high-school, and tons of high school prospects can't handle the next level. If I had to bet I'd say bronny doesn't make it. Honestly his younger son will probably end up better than bronny. Bigger kid and frame then bronny already. That is quite frank mate but yes, you certainly got a point. I also noticed that too, Bronny is actually shorter than Lebron in that age and it's the younger brother who actually fits to follow the same footstep their dad did. Next year, Bronny will be eligible to get drafted but I'd say that it's still to soon for him to join but who knows, the kid has still lots of room to improve.
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KD staying with nets is definitely something I would love to see. I mean they already didn't had a terrible team. Kyrie can shoot, KD we know can shoot very well, Joe Harris can shoot and Seth Curry can shoot, plus Ben Simmons can drive inside and pass out.
So, if they built a team where it is Kyrie-Seth-Harris-KD-Simmons five out there, which would be very difficult because it lacks center but they can just rest one of them and put a center in there and just change whoever is resting, that way they will always have 1 center, 1 amazing passer Simmons, and 3 shooters at all times. That's a team that can fight for a title with the right coach if you ask me.
Indeed that's good to see how KD and kyrie build up again the Nets and its another chance for them to shut off the mouth of people who doubt about their willingness to cooperate with their existing team due to their past controversy. Lets see how they can work well their chemistry since this is one thing lacking to them last season and if they can adjust with this for sure they are not an easy team to beat. That will be the biggest challenge for the whole franchise this coming season because they surely know that it's not an easy task to get these 3 drama queens in their team to be cooperative and set aside their egos to build chemistry. Also, Ben Simmons is also a puzzle that the management needs to solve because Simmons acts up whenever he wants or if he gets offended by any player on the team just like what he did when he was still on the 76ers.
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August 25, 2022, 06:38:07 PM |
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He joined Embiid, Simmons and Griffin as the rookies who lost their rookie years due to injuries as Woj said on Twitter. TBH, I'm not surprised that it happened. Just look at his frame and his body. Yes, he is athletic during the college, but it is different in the NBA. Now he must sit the whole upcoming season to rehabilitate and aside from rehabilitating, he must gain weight as well and make his body bulkier because just look at the bigs of the NBA. How can he defend those if he will stay on that kind of body. I don't know though with what you said that he will hurt himself every year, but if he will not do something to his body then that might be the case for him. Overall, a loss for the Thunder this season, but he can just come back next season since he is still a rookie. Hoping the best and fast recovery for him. 7 footers who try to defend hard and are active on the offensive side almost never can play a full year. Just to much height for hips knees and feet to withstand the rigors of the NBA. Bet he is out of the league in 5 years and max averages 6-10 points a game. His body structure doesn't look like he can add bulk. People keep trying with these lanky tall guys and it never works out. Yeah sadly you're right. This dude also just seems to be pretty fragile overall, unlike some of the biggest dudes of the past like Shaq. I'll never forget watching George Muresan play live versus the Bulls sometime in the late 1990's. I've seen him play on TV as well as other monsters like Manute Bol, but seeing it in person was just different. He really struggled to get up and down the court, and was always way behind every single play. Kind of feel bad for them almost.
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August 25, 2022, 06:53:13 PM |
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Pat is experienced but also with an ego together with Lebron and Russ. They will collide if they always lose games. Pat is the guy that can be honest and will tell Russ to his face that he sucks. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm not sure how this will turn out for the Lakers as we all have the same thoughts on this. I remembered NBA players who hates each other while they're on different team but eventually became a teammate. It's on the back of my mind but I can't remember who that was lol. TBH with the Pat Bev acquisition, I don't think it's a bad trade for the Lakers as he is a good addition defensively which the Lakers clearly lacks last season. The Lakers are reportedly targeting to re-sign Schroeder back as well.
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Media reporting now that Durant has reached an agreement with Nets management and will be playing for the Brooklyn Nets this year. I imagine that means Kyrie is staying also so no LeBron Kyrie reunion. I think this is probably the best outcome for everyone, but I did want to see them stir up the league. Should be fun to watch anyway. Two more months…
It's funny to see how quickly Durant changes his mind. Let me remind you that he tried to put an ultimatum to the Nets' owner a couple of weeks ago, and now they somehow managed to reach some kind of agreement. Honestly, I think Durant has been acting a little weird this offseason, and he definitely deserves to get some boos from Nets fans during the first home game of the upcoming season. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mind you, he will definitely be going to receive a lot of boos from the Nets fans for that egoistic action after all the Nets had done to him, especially that ultimatum, that was a risky move that by now he already realized that it was a huge mistake making Joe Tsai choose. He definitely thought hard after that action he made because he might have that contract as his last without re-sign as there's a chance that there's no team in the league that would want him. Perhaps, but if he can turn the team around this year, for sure fans will forget everything. Similar to Lebron when he left the Cavs, we know what the flash mob did, burning his jerseys in the street of Cleveland. And when he comes back and play for the first time there are boos. But when he brought the city a championship, everyone forget about it. So I'm thinking the same scenario for Durant here, that is if he plays good this season as if the whole saga didn't happen. We know he cannot do that, Durant ain't like Lebron who is capable and proven to carry the team in his back towards the Finals and become a champion as well. Durant will have a hard time if he tries to do that especially now that their situation at the Nets is quite ugly because of the issues that was made by Durant but he still ends up wearing the same jersey because no team in the league can meet the Nets want.
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August 25, 2022, 08:17:22 PM |
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I was surprised to see this news a while ago and I know that someone's going to post it here and here we are. The season hasn't even started yet and Chet is already going to miss the whole season because of that ligament injury on his foot. That's sad on his end and this is like already a sign of his career to end bad for him. OKC has already lost an investment on him but I wish him all he'll bounce back for the next season. Damn, what a dream for the kid and then a sudden turn of things. I hope that his contract will still be there and they shouldn't be allowed to play outside the league if it's a resting season for all of the teams so, they're full blast only for the season's league.
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He joined Embiid, Simmons and Griffin as the rookies who lost their rookie years due to injuries as Woj said on Twitter.
TBH, I'm not surprised that it happened. Just look at his frame and his body. Yes, he is athletic during the college, but it is different in the NBA. Now he must sit the whole upcoming season to rehabilitate and aside from rehabilitating, he must gain weight as well and make his body bulkier because just look at the bigs of the NBA. How can he defend those if he will stay on that kind of body. I don't know though with what you said that he will hurt himself every year, but if he will not do something to his body then that might be the case for him. Overall, a loss for the Thunder this season, but he can just come back next season since he is still a rookie. Hoping the best and fast recovery for him.
I guess for the whole season, he's going to have that goal of gaining weight. I want to see him guard LBJ but it didn't happen since this guy has said before some boasting words that he's like a great rookie but too many words until this happened. Well, speedy recovery to him and this is a big lesson for his career and also to the other rookies that have been drafted lately that they should be careful with where they're playing and take some advice from the veterans to at least avoid or minimize it from happening.
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I was surprised to see this news a while ago and I know that someone's going to post it here and here we are. The season hasn't even started yet and Chet is already going to miss the whole season because of that ligament injury on his foot. That's sad on his end and this is like already a sign of his career to end bad for him. OKC has already lost an investment on him but I wish him all he'll bounce back for the next season. Damn, what a dream for the kid and then a sudden turn of things. I hope that his contract will still be there and they shouldn't be allowed to play outside the league if it's a resting season for all of the teams so, they're full blast only for the season's league. Oh, there's a lot of hype around this kid for the past couple of days because of the way he played at his size. And now not even his first NBA game and he got injured already? This is a bad sign for OKC again. It was good that he was the number 2 pick though, if he would just be another rookie then we might not see his career prosper. Hopefully he can get back, still young we don't want to see another Greg Oden. Too much prospect in this career, number 1 pick, even higher than KD but never make it big because of his height, tall for his body and he can't take it as he suffers injuries after injuries forcing him to retire early.
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It's actually a smooth feeling to read that news that the KD trade and rumors have come to an end. It's best for all of the teams that have been in the news that showed interest of taking him.
I guess the buzz made by the team will also give that huge benefit from having those ticket sales for the very first days and opening of the league again for the matches of Nets.
Maybe a good advertising / marketing to have more interest from the fans knowing that KD will stay. Or, it can backfire as annoyed fans might boycott him since he created that drama. But let's give the Nets another shot, mentioning those info above gives fans a reason to watch them out. We can't say if they'll be able to blend together and have a smooth season, all will be witness when they start making the plays and see if there're sparks with both defense and offense. We don't know if that's the point of it. But I've seen them really struggle to find that team that's willing to trade and take their demand. Good thing that no one has ended to trade with them and that there's no one tolerated their demand. If by just looking at their roster, one can say that they're a contender and a very good team. Still depends on how they'll do with the upcoming season and I think many are optimistic.
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August 25, 2022, 09:30:15 PM |
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Let's just be positive about this kid. And looking at some great players who have missed their rookie season. - Joel Embiid - Blake Griffin - Julius Randle Those players turn out to be very good specially a prime Griffin with the Clippers. Joel has improved thru the years and almost won the MVP last year. Julius Randle found a home with the Knicks.
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I know NBA fans here talked too much about the Lakers in the past but now, we aren't hearing from them anymore aside from Lebron signing a 2 year deal. Now the Lakers traded Talen Horton Tucker and forward Stanley Johnson for the veteran Patrick Beverley. https://sportsnaut.com/los-angeles-lakers-patrick-beverley-trade/According to Shams Charania of The Athletic, Beverley is headed back to Southren California in exchange for Talen Horton-Tucker. Other reports suggest that veteran forward Stanley Johnson is also headed to Salt Lake. Lebron and Beverley had some trash talks in the past. Same goes for Westbrook and Beverley. Do you think that he is a good fit for the Lakers. For me, the Jazz won here big time because THT got a new team already. THT isn't that explosive with his stint with the Lakers so him going to other team might be a new opportunity for him to showcase his talents. I'm curious how will PatBev fit with the Lakers ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Patrick Beverley is a good stopper Lakers can use him for that role, while they will might try to blend LeBron,AD and Westbrook, they need defense and that might be the job for Beverly. in regard to THT, we've seen him contributing when LeBron or AD is sitting, he adds up good numbers for Lakers offense. Moving to a new team which is also in the process of rebuilding might give him more minutes and more time to handle the ball I mean, he can be used as the center of the offense. Him And JC would have a good combo. Exactly my thought as well. The Lakers are allowing a lot of points last season. They really lack in defense. Though adding Beverley in the mix will amp their defense a bit, I think it is not enough. We might see more trades coming in for the Lakers in order to boost their defense. Beverley is a good acquisition since he does not only give defense but also work on the other side of the court. He is 38% 3 pt shooter. He can extend the defense of the opposing team wider for Lebron and AD to take advantage of the paint. About Beverley's relationship with the other Laker stars, I think they are professional enough to get pass through their past trash talks. Trash talk is part of the game and they understand that. Now that they are playing together, they can put aside their previous grievance in order to achieve their goal this season. Russell is a pretty emotional guy. I don’t think he just lets their prior beef fade away. For me this trade signals that they think they can get a Russell Westbrook for Buddy Hield trade done. If they can, I think that would be a huge positive for the Lakers as Hield will be the best shooter LeBron’s had to work with since Ray Allen.
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Let's just be positive about this kid. And looking at some great players who have missed their rookie season. - Joel Embiid - Blake Griffin - Julius Randle Those players turn out to be very good specially a prime Griffin with the Clippers. Joel has improved thru the years and almost won the MVP last year. Julius Randle found a home with the Knicks. Not knocking on your list but those 3 players are built like monsters. My whole point is this kid looks like gumby in nba uniform. Griffin and embid just bodied their opposition into submission. Same thing with Randle, nba frame for centers and power forwards is huge. The only one I can think of who doesn't fit the mold is Durant. But I'm not going to compare chet to Durant lol.
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I believe that Chet just had a freak accident and it wasn't even his first year at all, dude got injured during the summer. So if he goes to gym, gets buffed and gets better physique until next season, then he will be much more ready. What people do not understand is that the difference between college and NBA help is a lot, and I mean like driving a regular car vs being on a rocket ship type of difference.
I am not saying he could have Giannis levels of difference, but I am sure he will get a bit more buff, just a bit. That's why I believe that we should be waiting for 2023-2024 season to start and he will look a lot more different and be a lot better.
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Exactly my thought as well. The Lakers are allowing a lot of points last season. They really lack in defense. Though adding Beverley in the mix will amp their defense a bit, I think it is not enough. We might see more trades coming in for the Lakers in order to boost their defense. Beverley is a good acquisition since he does not only give defense but also work on the other side of the court. He is 38% 3 pt shooter. He can extend the defense of the opposing team wider for Lebron and AD to take advantage of the paint.
About Beverley's relationship with the other Laker stars, I think they are professional enough to get pass through their past trash talks. Trash talk is part of the game and they understand that. Now that they are playing together, they can put aside their previous grievance in order to achieve their goal this season.
Beverley will be useful for the Lakers in any case because he's a really good defender, and he can always find a way to piss opponents off. At the same time, it's hard to imagine that Beverley and Westbrook can play together and not conflict with each other. Honestly, I think there will be a lot of trash talk in the Lakers locker room, considering Westbrook wasn't very complimentary about Beverley a few seasons ago.
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