2024 NBA Season

[Baofeng]

Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.

Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.

He is already polished, but yeah, I believed that there are rooms for improvement, he is still very young and the opportunity is there for him in the Warriors, putting aside the difference with Green and hopefully they will still be very professional and will play to bring the Warriors another ring this season.

And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.

[Jating]

Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.

Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.

From the way GSW building Poole, seems to me that they are really bringing everything out from this young star,
they are giving all the minutes that he needed to fuel up and showcasing his skills and talents.

That is right, because they know that Poole could be the next Steph or Klay, or someone that will help the team to accomplished their next goal. So Steve Kerr is giving him up exposure, just like last season. To help him gain more confidence and he is showing it already in the pre-season game.

That kind of confidence that once being given to Steph, and if Poole continues making that impact, it is safe to
assume that he might be the next main alpha of this team. He just needed to stay down like how Steph is doing
and let the fans bring more support, still young and just like how you describe it, he's a diamond that the team
is polishing and for sure it will be paid by millions of dollars. Just keep improving and let the future dictate for his
career's directions.

I can't compare it to Curry though, it was a different setup, he was a rookie back then but the Warriors knows that he is future good player. And so they traded Monta Ellis to let Steph lead the team.

[danherbias07]

"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined

Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.

Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.

Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate. 
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.

[Plaguedeath]

And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.

Wiseman performance is really like a beast on the pre season, I think he could be an MVP player since all of matches his performance isn't decreasing. Warriors has been known to become a champion since 2015, obviously anyone will think Warriors could become a champion in this season too. But it's still pre season and everything can change in the future. Bulls, Lakers and Celtics shouldn't be underestimated here, their performance also good.

Lakers even beat Warriors on the previous match, even though the points are really close.

[Smack That Ace]

I am sure that a lot of teams are going to want to get Green on the team. But the Lakers are not one of them. I think Brooklyn NETS might be a good destination for Green. The Nets might let Joe Harris and another player go to get Green. But I am just assuming.

The Brooklyn Nets will mess up what they worked hard for at putting Simmons, Kyrie, and KD in good form if they bring him in. I don't think they will add another piece to that roster that could break their chemistry or whatever leadership they already agreed with.

I don't think the Nets have any real interest in Green.  Besides him being a 1-year rental for them at this point, he doesn't mesh well with the team they've built.  His game is a perfect match for Steph and Klay because they can both change the game coming off screens for quick shots.  The Nets have guys that all create their own shot, so I don't expect that many of their attempts will be made off screens.  They're also not a run and gun type of team where Draymond's smaller size for his position plays an advantage.  I think a better pairing would be the Lakers waiting until the offseason to see if they can get Green and Buddy Hield for cheap.

I agree with this statement as well. The Nets are not looking to create any problems between the players and the chemistry that they already have built just to bring Green in. However, I also do not think that Green is a necessity for the Lakers either. If they can get Green for a cheap price, sure, go for it.

However, I am highly doubtful about Green's ability to actually settle in with the Lakers and be a part of the team's success. Unless he is able to provide something while the team is on the offense. Which I am sure he cannot unless he has the ball in his hand.

So, in conclusion, Green's return to the Nets seems to have fallen through. As it turns out, Laker's move has some positive aspects. But I think that the move might happen if the Lakers get him for a cheap price.


Regards

Duke

[wheelz1200]

I'm taking a look at the over under for wins this year and looking at the Knicks it seems low in my head.  High 30s (38.5), they had that last year and added a good point guard in jalen brunson.  They didn't have a pg last year which should easily add a coue wins.  And the young guys have another year under theor belt and didn't lose anyone too impactful.  Randle had a down year.  I'm not saying they are competing for anything significant but they have a way better shot hitting the over than the under on this.  Am I just being a Homer fan?  I can see them split the difference and hit low 40s, if luck is on the side maybe mid to high 40s?

I think you could probably expect to have a similar win total as last year, only needing 1.5 more wins with these things that have changed, I'd say is a decent bet.  But then again I don't know the Knicks like you do and perhaps you are being a homer, I wouldn't know for sure lol. 

The Bulls win total is ugly. They've got it at 41.5 after having 46 wins last year.  Which I guess is fair being that the Bulls don't know yet what they're getting w/Ball, or if he even ends up playing at all in 2023 (which is sickening and pretty much ruins the season for me.  Not that I expected them to win it all w/him, but still, at least we'd get to see what the Bulls are really like at full health).

Honestly I like that number.  Bulls at basically a .500 club is a good bet for the over.  Lots of teams in the East around the same talent level is what is muddling the waters.  But I can see the bulls having the same type of year as last year and not regress.  I'm gon a pull the trigger on that one.

[SirLancelot]

Scary moment for the Charlotte Hornets today as LaMelo Ball screamed out in pain driving to the lane. It looked like a bad ankle injury, which it was, but doctors just confirmed it’s a sprain so he’ll be back before too long. He is expected to miss the first few games of the year but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ready to go for the start of the season.

I think the injury will just last after the preseason so we will see this talented young gun in the season and hope the rest that missed this preseason debut. I wouldn't be surprised as well, there are lot of players right now that is going to be exciting to watch if they're healthy and LaMelo is one of that, Zion, Kawhi to name a few.

The good news is he walked back to locker room, which means that he must be doing something right, and there is nothing wrong with that. I am not saying that he is fine or anything, but even if he is injured for a period of time, it would probably not be anytime that would be long enough to bother anyone.

Hornets are not that great anyway, so they could take the time to let him heal as good as he would, because that means we are talking about them losing games but with him on the floor they still lose anyway. MJ was one of the greatest, probably the greatest ever basketball player ever lived, but he is definitely not a good owner at all by the looks of how the team has done since he took over.

[gagux123]

He is already polished, but yeah, I believed that there are rooms for improvement, he is still very young and the opportunity is there for him in the Warriors, putting aside the difference with Green and hopefully they will still be very professional and will play to bring the Warriors another ring this season.

And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.

Absolutely!
Jordan Poole is still being polished... and I have no doubt he will be a standout player and probably allstar playey, because his potential is extremely huge

[Yogee]

"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined

Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.

Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.

Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate. 
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.

Their management gone soft eh? The aggressor would have been suspended in any regular workplace setting. It says in the article that the two involved kinda mend ties with the intervention of Curry but the management should have taken a harder stance. I understand that it's a club decision but they must still send the right message to the basketball community.

[harizen]

So, in conclusion, Green's return to the Nets seems to have fallen through. As it turns out, Laker's move has some positive aspects. But I think that the move might happen if the Lakers get him for a cheap price.

Above all that analysis of yours or any related stuff, I think we should not discuss "for now" anything about Draymond Green's possible trading rumors. It's not the same as the usual rumors where the chances of happening are high. It's already quite clear that Draymond Green will stay on the Warriors, and we can rule out for now that trading scenario in the future involving him.

More importantly, D. Green doesn't let his ego dominate him and settles the issue with Jordan Poole right away regardless if he is serious or not. Although it might somehow affect the relationship between these two, I know they won't let their chemistry ruin while playing on the court at the same time.

But personally for me, aside from the fine, he should at least be suspended from some of their regular games. Maybe around 2-3 games or so shouldn't be a big deal. The Golden State Warriors are too soft on their approach to that incident.

[jossiel]

I know Green already realized what he did wrong. He apologized to Poole already. That's the start of forming much-good chemistry between him and Poole.

Hopefully, their old way of interventing to each other is back. But I guess there's already a stain and it's not that quick to be gone. Well, as for Draymond's status.

Stephen Smith said that Green wants to play for the Lakers. This news is out just a few hours ago.

News: https://lakeshowlife.com/2022/10/10/draymond-green-wants-join-lakers-stephen-smith/

He is asking for a max contract with the Warriors, and they declined.
Green wants to play with the Lakers, but if the Warriors will trade him, which players will they get in exchange.

I watched the interview with him and Perk on Youtube and it seems that Green might be traded next year. Well, I think the Warriors will benefit if they trade him because they already have Wiggins which is younger and is also very good defensively and we saw it last playoffs. Many teams want Green because of how he can defend players so if the Warriors trade him, many teams will give offers to them for sure.

Well, it's likely that they'll release and trade Green soon. The luxury tax of GSW is at max if they'll keep either Poole or Green but I'm guessing that since Green has mentioned that he wants to go to Lakers.

Then, he might be grated for the trade there if Lakers would agree for the contract that he's going to get there while for GSW, they'll be lessened for that luxury tax.

[tabas]

I've seen this news and while many have thought that the two were okay already. Here goes the news that Poole's family is pursuing to file a case against Draymond.
Well, that's a real family there that won't tolerate such violence that has been done to their family member. It's now on Poole's family if they're going to let it pass or if Draymond apologize to them for what he's done even though he's already said it.
It's always been a different approach when it's your family that has to deal with it.

I hope Poole can control his family if he still wants to play with Draymond. Otherwise, it will put stress between their relationship and the team as well. If it won't go well, I think GSW management will be forced to choose between Poole and Green, who will they keep and who will they trade.

Well, it could also not in control anymore as they've got their own ways of dealing things like what happened to Poole. To Jordan, it's already okay and good.
But if it's his family has some defense mechanism and they can't accept that apology, we don't know where it's going and that will really depend on how they'll tackle it just to accept and justify what has happened.

[dwyane36]

MJ was one of the greatest, probably the greatest ever basketball player ever lived, but he is definitely not a good owner at all by the looks of how the team has done since he took over.

It's worth noting that the Hornets have always been the underdog, even when Jordan wasn't the owner and the team was called the Bobcats. They've never won a championship, a conference, and a division. Besides, they've only reached the playoffs 3 times in the last 18 years. So even if Jordan really wants to improve the Hornets' results, he will need to invest a lot more money and time.

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm taking a look at the over under for wins this year and looking at the Knicks it seems low in my head.  High 30s (38.5), they had that last year and added a good point guard in jalen brunson.  They didn't have a pg last year which should easily add a coue wins.  And the young guys have another year under theor belt and didn't lose anyone too impactful.  Randle had a down year.  I'm not saying they are competing for anything significant but they have a way better shot hitting the over than the under on this.  Am I just being a Homer fan?  I can see them split the difference and hit low 40s, if luck is on the side maybe mid to high 40s?

I think you could probably expect to have a similar win total as last year, only needing 1.5 more wins with these things that have changed, I'd say is a decent bet.  But then again I don't know the Knicks like you do and perhaps you are being a homer, I wouldn't know for sure lol.  

The Bulls win total is ugly. They've got it at 41.5 after having 46 wins last year.  Which I guess is fair being that the Bulls don't know yet what they're getting w/Ball, or if he even ends up playing at all in 2023 (which is sickening and pretty much ruins the season for me.  Not that I expected them to win it all w/him, but still, at least we'd get to see what the Bulls are really like at full health).

Honestly I like that number.  Bulls at basically a .500 club is a good bet for the over.  Lots of teams in the East around the same talent level is what is muddling the waters.  But I can see the bulls having the same type of year as last year and not regress.  I'm gon a pull the trigger on that one.

Yeah I think it's pretty fair.  Let's dream up an unlikely scenario, but if Ball comes back say half way through, I would expect them to finish with around the same wins as last year.  However now thinking about it, the Bulls did have the best record in the league for like the first month or so didn't they , I don't expect that happening again w/out Ball lol.  

In other new Ayo named starting PG.  The crazy/shitty thing about that is he's a 2nd round rookie (which is crazy good value) but we don't own his right like a first round.  If I'm correct, we lost his rights after next year.  He could become too costly for the Bulls and that makes me super sad.  Chicago kid, went to Illinois, grew up a Bulls fan, great great kid, heck of a talent with IMO jimmy butler type upside (remember butler was an okay role player his first two years, so Ayo is actually ahead of him at this point in his career).   Anyways, lookin forward to seeing them play regardless.

[chaser15]

It's worth noting that the Hornets have always been the underdog, even when Jordan wasn't the owner and the team was called the Bobcats. They've never won a championship, a conference, and a division. Besides, they've only reached the playoffs 3 times in the last 18 years. So even if Jordan really wants to improve the Hornets' results, he will need to invest a lot more money and time.

Michael Jordan does have skills and money but he doesn't have the ability to improve and enhanced a team. He is running a team for over 2 decades now.

If I'm not mistaken, he owned first the Charlotte Bobcats franchise back in 2003 or 2004 and they have Emeka Okafor as a top rookie pick.

Since then, the team doesn't improved or even participating in postseason big trades.

[OgNasty]

I’m watching this Nets/Bucks preseason game and Ben Simmons has 6 points and 6 assists at the end of the first quarter. I’m usually in agreement with Doris Burke, but she’s talking about his stat line and I’m watching the game… Ben has been missing defensive assignments, not going for rebounds, not rolling off the screen, and passing up open jump shots. I actually think he looks pretty bad out there, but he’ll probably get a first half triple double…

[LogitechMouse]

I’m watching this Nets/Bucks preseason game and Ben Simmons has 6 points and 6 assists at the end of the first quarter. I’m usually in agreement with Doris Burke, but she’s talking about his stat line and I’m watching the game… Ben has been missing defensive assignments, not going for rebounds, not rolling off the screen, and passing up open jump shots. I actually think he looks pretty bad out there, but he’ll probably get a first half triple double…

Simmons ended up with 7 points, 8 rebounds and   10 assists. Not bad knowing that he isn't 100% and at least he is doing what he really wants to do, and it is to pass and pass the ball. It's good to see him playing again now with a different team.

Unlike when he is in Philly when they want him to shoot threes, I guess he doesn't need to do it now that he is in Brooklyn because the roster is loaded with offensive players like Kyrie, KD, O'neal, Harris and Curry. I think he will be comfortable now because they will not oblige him to shoot because as a point guard of the team, the main objective is to carry the ball and to pass to an open teammate.

The Nets won by 10 points. It's only a pre-season game but still helpful to build the chemistry of both teams.

[danherbias07]

I’m watching this Nets/Bucks preseason game and Ben Simmons has 6 points and 6 assists at the end of the first quarter. I’m usually in agreement with Doris Burke, but she’s talking about his stat line and I’m watching the game… Ben has been missing defensive assignments, not going for rebounds, not rolling off the screen, and passing up open jump shots. I actually think he looks pretty bad out there, but he’ll probably get a first half triple double…

Simmons ended up with 7 points, 8 rebounds and   10 assists. Not bad knowing that he isn't 100% and at least he is doing what he really wants to do, and it is to pass and pass the ball. It's good to see him playing again now with a different team.

Unlike when he is in Philly when they want him to shoot threes, I guess he doesn't need to do it now that he is in Brooklyn because the roster is loaded with offensive players like Kyrie, KD, O'neal, Harris and Curry. I think he will be comfortable now because they will not oblige him to shoot because as a point guard of the team, the main objective is to carry the ball and to pass to an open teammate.

The Nets won by 10 points. It's only a pre-season game but still helpful to build the chemistry of both teams.

He was caught by the hype of every guard should be shooting threes. They forgot to just let him do what he is best at.
Perimeter shooting should be enough to make a successful hesitation move, and he has a choice to use his body instead to force the ball near the rim.
When it comes to making more assists, he is in good hands with Steve Nash. That guy is the definition of being unselfish and does specialize in passing the ball.
This season if Ben will be healthy in 80 games he might make more double-doubles in assists and rebounds instead of points.

[Oasisman]

MJ was one of the greatest, probably the greatest ever basketball player ever lived, but he is definitely not a good owner at all by the looks of how the team has done since he took over.

It's worth noting that the Hornets have always been the underdog, even when Jordan wasn't the owner and the team was called the Bobcats. They've never won a championship, a conference, and a division. Besides, they've only reached the playoffs 3 times in the last 18 years. So even if Jordan really wants to improve the Hornets' results, he will need to invest a lot more money and time.

Exactly!
There is a huge difference between being a great player and to become a great owner.
There's nothing much an owner can do if there's not enough funds to attract good players in comparison with the well established teams, and good players does not play for a team who's struggling to get to the playoffs and receiving lesser contract. 
The Charlotte Hornets needs to have a pick like they did in 96. However, I think they are really terrible in building a good team lol.

[inthelongrun]

MJ was one of the greatest, probably the greatest ever basketball player ever lived, but he is definitely not a good owner at all by the looks of how the team has done since he took over.

It's worth noting that the Hornets have always been the underdog, even when Jordan wasn't the owner and the team was called the Bobcats. They've never won a championship, a conference, and a division. Besides, they've only reached the playoffs 3 times in the last 18 years. So even if Jordan really wants to improve the Hornets' results, he will need to invest a lot more money and time.

Exactly!
There is a huge difference between being a great player and to become a great owner.
There's nothing much an owner can do if there's not enough funds to attract good players in comparison with the well established teams, and good players does not play for a team who's struggling to get to the playoffs and receiving lesser contract. 
The Charlotte Hornets needs to have a pick like they did in 96. However, I think they are really terrible in building a good team lol.

Funds are very important when it comes to wanting an NBA team to prosper. Michael Jordan is only valued at over a billion dollars (not bad for an athlete) which isn't that rich compared to the other team owners. Although most of these teams have minority-owner partners too and they are part of the decision-making when it comes to money.

But there are major owners too that aren't that rich just like the Golden State Warriors. The difference is they are too willing to risk hundreds of millions of dollars yearly for the success of their teams. They don't care about their supposed yearly dividends, but they're banking on the value of their teams.

Michael Jordan is a proven successful businessman by growing his money into billions. He might not have a great NBA team but pretty sure he is harvesting millions of dollars yearly. GSW's major owner is banking on its team's value, but what happens 5 to 10 years from now when its superstars are gone? There's the risk of losing the value of his team and not being able to harvest dividends over the years. While Jordan is earning hundreds of millions or even a billion already by that time. But this remains to be seen as to who's the smartest businessman between GSW and Hornets owners. But as to who's the better team, GSW is miles ahead of Charlotte. 

Another factor that cannot be missed is their location. There is no doubt that places like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, Miami, etc are great cities compared to freezing Toronto and the smaller cities.