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November 07, 2022, 10:08:04 AM
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It only means that the Lakers have to work better than everyone else. They're now dwelling in losses and if this continuous then this is going to be another sad season for the whole Lakers and the investment that they've taken for these players are not worth it.

I do not think it is a total loss, not just yet. Everytime I see Westbrook taking control of the ball, there are always easy two's for Lebron or Davis, whoever is available. I think they are getting the right plays but the fire power is really not yet enough. I think they will start winning when they secondary units starts to be comfortable with each other and their outside shooting is fixed. It is early in the season and a lot has to be done but I right now, I see some sparks of improvement.
They have to restrategize and think on what part they can be used at maximum. Yeah, we're seeing that all of them are being used and showing the best of it.
But what they lack of is when they're being lead on by their opponent and it's like they're no longer playing as a team. Maybe this isn't on their end but maybe on the coaching side.
It's hard to say but this is just me, as a fan and that's what I've noticed as someone who watches the game but no idea what's actually happening and being discussed in the bench.

They individual want their stats up that's why they are struggling to get a better rotation then get a win. If they change their mindset and allow their teammates to do their job especially on scoring or other things they can contribute well maybe we can see a better lakers. They should not focus only on WB,Davis and LBJ only they should try different rotation or combination since maybe they can see which of them will fit together.

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November 07, 2022, 10:24:48 AM
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It only means that the Lakers have to work better than everyone else. They're now dwelling in losses and if this continuous then this is going to be another sad season for the whole Lakers and the investment that they've taken for these players are not worth it.

I do not think it is a total loss, not just yet. Everytime I see Westbrook taking control of the ball, there are always easy two's for Lebron or Davis, whoever is available. I think they are getting the right plays but the fire power is really not yet enough. I think they will start winning when they secondary units starts to be comfortable with each other and their outside shooting is fixed. It is early in the season and a lot has to be done but I right now, I see some sparks of improvement.
They have to restrategize and think on what part they can be used at maximum. Yeah, we're seeing that all of them are being used and showing the best of it.
But what they lack of is when they're being lead on by their opponent and it's like they're no longer playing as a team. Maybe this isn't on their end but maybe on the coaching side.
It's hard to say but this is just me, as a fan and that's what I've noticed as someone who watches the game but no idea what's actually happening and being discussed in the bench.

They individual want their stats up that's why they are struggling to get a better rotation then get a win. If they change their mindset and allow their teammates to do their job especially on scoring or other things they can contribute well maybe we can see a better lakers. They should not focus only on WB,Davis and LBJ only they should try different rotation or combination since maybe they can see which of them will fit together.

I think Darvin Ham is doing  that, in the last couple of games, they are not focus on their big 3, but the problem is that the second unit are not producing numbers for them. So if Lebron and AD sit, usually their opponent make a run and it's hard for them to catch up once the team took the lead because they have lost their momentum already.

So I don't see the Lakers really improving this year, and I will say that their teams is better off last year as compare to this season. Only bright thing for the Lakers this season is Lebron breaking records but that's it, not seeing them as going to the top of the West.

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November 07, 2022, 10:35:03 AM
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I do not think it is a total loss, not just yet. Everytime I see Westbrook taking control of the ball, there are always easy two's for Lebron or Davis, whoever is available. I think they are getting the right plays but the fire power is really not yet enough. I think they will start winning when they secondary units starts to be comfortable with each other and their outside shooting is fixed. It is early in the season and a lot has to be done but I right now, I see some sparks of improvement.
Someone who could spread the floor. That is what they need.
Matt Ryan became a threat on that after the known overtime buzzer-beater shot. But one is not enough. Whenever I watch a Lakers game, it's always congested in the painted area, or if anyone is left in the 3-point line for a free shot, it's not a 3-point shooter at all.
The only remedy I could see is to make a trade before the deadline, while it's still early, or try some new players when the 10-day contract starts to open.
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November 07, 2022, 11:11:58 AM
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I had even forgotten about today's game, I just turned on the tv to watch Lakers vs Cavs and was surprised by the result (end of third period)
Cavs turned the game around and with a 7-point lead.
Mitchell and Garland combined with 50 points!

It was a bad day for the Los Angeles clubs, both teams lost at home. The Lakers won the first half of the game, but Cleveland confidently beat the hosts in the second half and got the victory. The Clippers  play well most part of the game and they were leading until the last quarter, but the last quarter was a failure, they managed to lose all the advantage and lose the game.

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November 07, 2022, 11:50:22 AM
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They have to restrategize and think on what part they can be used at maximum. Yeah, we're seeing that all of them are being used and showing the best of it.
But what they lack of is when they're being lead on by their opponent and it's like they're no longer playing as a team. Maybe this isn't on their end but maybe on the coaching side.
It's hard to say but this is just me, as a fan and that's what I've noticed as someone who watches the game but no idea what's actually happening and being discussed in the bench.

They individual want their stats up that's why they are struggling to get a better rotation then get a win. If they change their mindset and allow their teammates to do their job especially on scoring or other things they can contribute well maybe we can see a better lakers. They should not focus only on WB,Davis and LBJ only they should try different rotation or combination since maybe they can see which of them will fit together.
This is the bad side of having superstar players, they're going to explore as in really going to have that not so good chemistry by which most fans thought that it will be.
But the result is showing that having too many superstars isn't a good strategy unless, they're still on that phase of building up their chemistry but that's already too much of an excuse.

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November 07, 2022, 12:01:42 PM
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They have to restrategize and think on what part they can be used at maximum. Yeah, we're seeing that all of them are being used and showing the best of it.
But what they lack of is when they're being lead on by their opponent and it's like they're no longer playing as a team. Maybe this isn't on their end but maybe on the coaching side.
It's hard to say but this is just me, as a fan and that's what I've noticed as someone who watches the game but no idea what's actually happening and being discussed in the bench.

They individual want their stats up that's why they are struggling to get a better rotation then get a win. If they change their mindset and allow their teammates to do their job especially on scoring or other things they can contribute well maybe we can see a better lakers. They should not focus only on WB,Davis and LBJ only they should try different rotation or combination since maybe they can see which of them will fit together.
This is the bad side of having superstar players, they're going to explore as in really going to have that not so good chemistry by which most fans thought that it will be.
But the result is showing that having too many superstars isn't a good strategy unless, they're still on that phase of building up their chemistry but that's already too much of an excuse.

Let's gather the best players of all teams and always win. This approach never works. Just as a game doesn't work until it's cracked, a team must recruit players who will allow star players to do business with each other. Such players are constructors, not stars. So, like cracks required for games. I think that's exactly the problem. The chemistry of the players must match. I can't see this harmony on the field. Different players should try to blend in with each other. Otherwise, this bad trend will continue.

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November 07, 2022, 12:09:50 PM
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Utah Jazz stunned the Clippers on their own homecourt.

Such a big win for the Jazz, both Clippers and Lakers are dealt with accordingly, and that is because of their good team work. PG13 scored huge points but the Jazz had a proper distribution of points, their big 3 were playing well.



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November 07, 2022, 12:34:11 PM
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I had even forgotten about today's game, I just turned on the tv to watch Lakers vs Cavs and was surprised by the result (end of third period)
Cavs turned the game around and with a 7-point lead.
Mitchell and Garland combined with 50 points!

It was a bad day for the Los Angeles clubs, both teams lost at home. The Lakers won the first half of the game, but Cleveland confidently beat the hosts in the second half and got the victory. The Clippers  play well most part of the game and they were leading until the last quarter, but the last quarter was a failure, they managed to lose all the advantage and lose the game.

They lose their composure that's why they lose the game. 26-17 was the score in the 4th quarter, the game was controlled by the Jazz, maybe because PG was tired in the 4th quarter, he played 38 minutes in this game while the longest playing time of one player in Jazz is only 33 minutes. Also, the Clippers were outrebounded by the Jazz.

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November 07, 2022, 12:38:12 PM
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Right now the game of Los Angeles Lakers VS Cleveland Cavaliers is commencing and the Lakers is on the lead right now with 35 - 29 but here is my take on my pick for today's game,

Russel Westbrook is having a good game. 12 point in 5/6 of shooting and it is just the start of the second quarter. I bet on cavs here and my bet is looking bad. The score is just close though, so there is still a good chance I can still win this game.

Westbrook has been on an absolute tear since coming off the bench. I think with slightly less competition he can dominate. He’s shooting an incredible average the last 4 games and keeps getting better. What a turnaround. I’m so happy for him. I hope he can keep it up. What was happening to him personally in Los Angeles wasn’t right. With a scoring threat off the bench, all LA needs now is a three point shooter and they might make the playoffs.

And they still need consistency to survive because even if they get lucky and managed to get a spot in playoffs, it's very likely that they will be just eliminated in the first round. And about Westbrook, I'm glad to see that he's slowly getting back to his form, he was heavily criticized before but Darvin Ham helped him to get over with it. If he's better coming from the bench then I think he should remain that way.
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November 07, 2022, 12:55:06 PM
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Looks like I'm not the only one who expect Warriors to win this game. Cheesy

Include me on that list mate Grin Of course, nobody would expect that the Warriors will lose a game versus the Magic today. It's already proven throughout the time that Warriors is much difficult to defeat especially in this game that they have the edge against the opposing team, I don't know what's wrong with them because recently, it looks like that they really struggling. Just my thought tho, maybe their locker room is now different than what they've been used to.

Warriors lose with a single point and snatch from an underdog Magic team.

Not sure about the reason, but they needed to figure it out as fans will start to question them, and for sure haters and critics
will start to come up just like how it was with Lakers and Nets. As early as now, Warriors need to work it out, maybe the locker
room has something that will boost them if they will find the old ways and bring that talk into good executions.


That is if their locker room can give them some boost of what they need because if their locker room is now toxic then that may be the reason why their plays and performance are quite different since the season started, Curry is still have a hot hands but it is not enough. We know that the Warriors are surrounded by issues even before the season started and there's this Booker-Klay confrontation.

I see your point and it will be a big or tough test for coach Kerr and there with the Warriors managements they need to work
as one and forget about those dramas.

They need to act as professionals and it should need to start reflecting on their games,
all those issues do have the right place to discuss, but once they are inside the court they
need to perform that has one goal, nothing but to win the game.


They should because they have a title to defend and an image to uphold, they can't be messed up just because what happened recently. I agree with that, all those issues have it's right time and place to tackle but when it comes to their games, they should act professional because that's what they signed up for. Tomorrow they will be having another game and this time it will be played on their own soil against the Kings, I'm expecting a bounce back here after their five consecutive defeats.

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November 07, 2022, 01:04:50 PM
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If he's better coming from the bench then I think he should remain that way.
That might work but it will not work forever because good teams will just beat them on their starters. Westbrook is one of the highest paid NBA players, he should not be on the 2nd unit only, he needs to be a starter but he also needs to improve. Bring the old Westbrook who average triple double, or maybe a double is enough.

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Kyrie Irving has responded to the Nets six step plan for him to return to the team by telling them that he plans to retire. This seems like it may be the latest stunt to force a trade. The amount of drama that has followed Kyrie from his exit in Cleveland has been impressive. The guy is a walking drama machine. I agree with his stance though. First covid and now free speech. The NBA is getting a little too controlling.

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November 07, 2022, 01:54:15 PM
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Kyrie Irving has responded to the Nets six step plan for him to return to the team by telling them that he plans to retire. This seems like it may be the latest stunt to force a trade. The amount of drama that has followed Kyrie from his exit in Cleveland has been impressive. The guy is a walking drama machine. I agree with his stance though. First covid and now free speech. The NBA is getting a little too controlling.

Well if he wanted to retire then so be it, he really turn the NBA into circus, specially when he left Cleveland.

And then the Nets giving him that freedom and the money that really bite them in the ass later. Trade? yeah, again, why not, as long as the Nets is willing to let go and let the franchise free from all the drama, then it's a good decision for them. Just sad for them to make the wrong decision to get him or even Harden and next is Ben Simmons.

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November 07, 2022, 02:16:51 PM
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The Big 3 of Lakers perform well but the teamwork of Cavs give the win, a 14 point deficit which is mostly because of shared ball movement.

It's tough for the Lakers to beat a team where everyone is involved, though Mitchel leads the offense
but aside from him, almost all the players who played for Cavs contributes, this team really have
a competitive squad this season.
Sometimes I am extremely surprised with this performance (Lakers)
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Even though LAL has AD, Westbrook and LeBron James, they lost to the Cavs (although in my opinion the Cleveland team this season has improved, I even speculate that they have a great chance of participating in the playoffs this season).

Guys, my doubt is, why the Lakers having the best players in the league, they still manage to lose to a "normal" team in the NBA?
Because, they do not really have "great" players anymore, that’s why. AD had 2 points in the second half as a whole, and he hasn't been great since the championship season. Westbrook played with some good shooting which was needed from him, but he had a terrible plus/minus which shows that him being on the floor wasn't that much helpful neither.

Lastly Lebron is getting older, which means not only he is not doing that great on offense, still good enough but not great, he also lacks defence so much that whatever he contributes on offense is covered by his not so great defence. Which all shows that they are not that great anymore at all, they are just a decent team.
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And they still need consistency to survive because even if they get lucky and managed to get a spot in playoffs, it's very likely that they will be just eliminated in the first round. And about Westbrook, I'm glad to see that he's slowly getting back to his form, he was heavily criticized before but Darvin Ham helped him to get over with it. If he's better coming from the bench then I think he should remain that way.

I know I am criticizing WestBrick, a lot but this time he manage to be what he can be the best he wants to be, but still, they haven't won that game but I think if every player in the Lakers would just have a never say die attitude or mindset I think they can surely carry on, from what I see the Lakers could win that game against the Cavaliers easily but because they have dropped the level of perseverance when the Cavaliers got their momentum this could surely affect the players play, but WestBrick just didn't faze out and shot Three's and never backing down from the Cleaveland,



Now here are my picks for tomorrow's game,

Indiana Pacers VS New Orleans Pelicans

The stake odds for this game are 2.80 for the Pacers and 1.47 for the Pelicans, both teams end up with position 7, but for me, New Orleans is a team to be very careful at so my pick is the New Orleans Pelicans,

Philadelphia 76ers VS Phoenix Suns

The stake odds for this game are 2.15 for the 76ers and 1.74 for the Suns, Right now James Harden has foot injuries and can not play against the Suns, while Joel Embiid and Danuel House Jr. are questionable if they can play, while Duane Washington Jr., Ishmail Wainright, Cameron Johnson, and Jae Crowder are injured and can not play while Cameron Payne is questionable, but they will still have their game so my pick is the Suns,

Memphis Grizzlies VS Boston Celtics

The stake odds for this game are 2.34 for the Grizzlies and 1.63 for the Celtics, this is a game that is likely Offense VS Defense, and right now Cameron Payne, Ziaire Williams, and Jaren Jackson Jr. for the Grizzlies while Luke Kornet, Robert Williams III, and Danilo Gallinari for the Celtics, for me the Celtics is my pick,

Golden State Warriors VS Sacramento Kings

The stake odds for this game are 1.28 for the Warriors and 3.85 for the Kings, for this one there are no doubts that My pick is the Golden State Warriors, just because I am a fan but for me, the Warriors are going to win

Utah Jazz VS Los Angeles Lakers

The stake odds for this game are 1.56 for the Jazz and 2.50 for the Lakers, in these match for me there is no doubt that I will take the Utah Jazz, for me even though the Lakers now have a good Russell WestBrick it doesn't mean they will eventually keep on winning every game so my pick is the Utah Jazz,
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November 07, 2022, 03:49:39 PM
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Looks like it's going to be 2-7 after the fourth quarter for the Lakers. Any idea why Pat Bev didn't play?

I remember seeing a post quoting Davis that other NBA teams actually fear them but their standings don't seem to share his opinion. I wonder where he gets all that confidence hehe.

This is funny hehe Grin He might've underestimated the other teams in the league just because they got a two consecutive win, well, he should not get ahead of his own self because there's still a lot of games before the regular season ends and his safety is not that assured at all because his very prone to any injury.

By the way, to answer your question, Patrick Beverly didn't play on the game versus the Cavs because he was added on the health & safety protocol but I heard it's a non-covid illness.

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November 07, 2022, 04:09:49 PM
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And they still need consistency to survive because even if they get lucky and managed to get a spot in playoffs, it's very likely that they will be just eliminated in the first round. And about Westbrook, I'm glad to see that he's slowly getting back to his form, he was heavily criticized before but Darvin Ham helped him to get over with it. If he's better coming from the bench then I think he should remain that way.

I know I am criticizing WestBrick, a lot but this time he manage to be what he can be the best he wants to be, but still, they haven't won that game but I think if every player in the Lakers would just have a never say die attitude or mindset I think they can surely carry on, from what I see the Lakers could win that game against the Cavaliers easily but because they have dropped the level of perseverance when the Cavaliers got their momentum this could surely affect the players play, but WestBrick just didn't faze out and shot Three's and never backing down from the Cleaveland,



Now here are my picks for tomorrow's game,

Indiana Pacers VS New Orleans Pelicans

The stake odds for this game are 2.80 for the Pacers and 1.47 for the Pelicans, both teams end up with position 7, but for me, New Orleans is a team to be very careful at so my pick is the New Orleans Pelicans,

Philadelphia 76ers VS Phoenix Suns

The stake odds for this game are 2.15 for the 76ers and 1.74 for the Suns, Right now James Harden has foot injuries and can not play against the Suns, while Joel Embiid and Danuel House Jr. are questionable if they can play, while Duane Washington Jr., Ishmail Wainright, Cameron Johnson, and Jae Crowder are injured and can not play while Cameron Payne is questionable, but they will still have their game so my pick is the Suns,

Memphis Grizzlies VS Boston Celtics

The stake odds for this game are 2.34 for the Grizzlies and 1.63 for the Celtics, this is a game that is likely Offense VS Defense, and right now Cameron Payne, Ziaire Williams, and Jaren Jackson Jr. for the Grizzlies while Luke Kornet, Robert Williams III, and Danilo Gallinari for the Celtics, for me the Celtics is my pick,

Golden State Warriors VS Sacramento Kings

The stake odds for this game are 1.28 for the Warriors and 3.85 for the Kings, for this one there are no doubts that My pick is the Golden State Warriors, just because I am a fan but for me, the Warriors are going to win

Utah Jazz VS Los Angeles Lakers

The stake odds for this game are 1.56 for the Jazz and 2.50 for the Lakers, in these match for me there is no doubt that I will take the Utah Jazz, for me even though the Lakers now have a good Russell WestBrick it doesn't mean they will eventually keep on winning every game so my pick is the Utah Jazz,


I'd also add:

Miami Heat VS Portland Trail Blazers

especially in terms of covering the point spread, the Miami Heat are 2-7-1 against the point spread in their last ten games with a loss of -5 units and the Portland Trail Blazers are 7-2-0 against the point spread in their last ten games with a profit of +4 units

Anyway, I'd hit MIA -8 @ -110 (1.91) odds worst.

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November 07, 2022, 06:57:32 PM
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With all 30 NBA teams playing tonight, I urge everyone to put a few satoshis on a 15 game parlay. Granted, nobody will hit it, but if by some miracle someone did get all 15 games right, that would be one hell of a win. Worth tossing a few satoshis at. I can’t remember the last time I saw all 30 NBA teams playing on one night, but it certainly doesn’t seem common. Take advantage!

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November 07, 2022, 08:49:54 PM
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With all 30 NBA teams playing tonight, I urge everyone to put a few satoshis on a 15 game parlay. Granted, nobody will hit it, but if by some miracle someone did get all 15 games right, that would be one hell of a win. Worth tossing a few satoshis at. I can’t remember the last time I saw all 30 NBA teams playing on one night, but it certainly doesn’t seem common. Take advantage!

That is actually a good idea. I wonder what will be the total odds is if I bet on all 15 games betting on the favorites only, Moneyline. I have a few sats to spare, maybe I'll try this later.

If he's better coming from the bench then I think he should remain that way.
That might work but it will not work forever because good teams will just beat them on their starters. Westbrook is one of the highest paid NBA players, he should not be on the 2nd unit only, he needs to be a starter but he also needs to improve. Bring the old Westbrook who average triple double, or maybe a double is enough.

But right now, that is what is working for them. I think if they can win if Westbrook is coming from the bench, then they should just let him come from the bench. It does not matter if he is the highest-paid Lakers, as long as they win if he is not starting then it is better. He energizes the second unit of the Lakers and they need that. They obviously cannot win on the back of their stars alone. They needed their secondary unit to perform very well, so if Westbrook can energize the second units to perform better, so be it.
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November 07, 2022, 09:01:28 PM
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Because, they do not really have "great" players anymore, that’s why. AD had 2 points in the second half as a whole, and he hasn't been great since the championship season. Westbrook played with some good shooting which was needed from him, but he had a terrible plus/minus which shows that him being on the floor wasn't that much helpful neither.

Lastly Lebron is getting older, which means not only he is not doing that great on offense, still good enough but not great, he also lacks defence so much that whatever he contributes on offense is covered by his not so great defence. Which all shows that they are not that great anymore at all, they are just a decent team.
Look, this is surreal! I confess, this is hard to believe.
Despite the start of the regular season, there is still time for the Lakers to improve their performance.
But with these games that have already taken place, the Lakers are performing similarly to previous seasons.

When the Lakers won the 19/20 season the roster at that time could have been weaker than the current one, and LAL only had two excellent players, AD and LeBron at that time, and in the regular season the Lakers had w/l 52/19 ( .732)

Even with yesterday's loss, AD, Wesbrook and LeBron, performed reasonably (under expectations), but they still couldn't beat the Cavs.
I believe this could also be due to the chemistry between the players, I don't know, honestly... I hope the Lakers improve during the regular season!

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