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October 14, 2022, 06:20:15 PM
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I missed the game of Pelicans but upon looking for some updates and news about it, I was shocked and surprised again about Zion Williamson. This guy just got recovered and then he's injured again.

But as per the news, it's not that critical as before. Well, hopefully it isn't so that he'll come back as what he has said.

And the Pelicans could say worth it for the contract they got for him.  Grin
Players needs to be extremely careful and cautious in games inother not lose form in games. Injurycause many players to lose form and very bad for some key players especially when they're needed in a team. Zion Williamson been injured but hopefully he will come back sooner. He have even begin to lose form in games, been injured again, I think it's very bad as we know that it will affect his performance in games when he comes back. Pelicans still interested in him and they will extend contract with him as long as he's in form.

I guess you can't tell players to be very careful, even if you are, chances are you might still get injured as it happened as a accident.

The good thing is that it is not as bad as we thought, maybe Zion really just wanted to show everyone that he is back and for sure he trained a lot off season because he has lost a lot of weight. Nevertheless, this kind of freak accident can happen to everyone. Hopefully he can bounce back in the regular good and be healthy throughout this season.

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October 14, 2022, 06:44:16 PM
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Agree with that, it seemed like the consequence is very light, it was a clear violence, he should be suspended at a very least. Well, that's how NBA works,  the system is not fair as it favors more to players whom they think is very valuable to a team.
It is. I thought they are clear about how strict they are with the rules, but it seems like they are short on this one case about Draymond Green.
Anyway, he will be back in the roster, and it was said in reports that him and Poole already talked. I wish there won't be another incident like this and Green have learned his lesson. There will be eyes everywhere and he should be careful about his sudden uncontrollable anger.

The Warriors can't afford to suspend Green especially now that there's not much time in his contract as they are not that sure if they will really give him his demands, we cannot deny that Green is one of the vital players of their roster and plays a huge part in their center's defense so it's somehow expected that they will just give him a light punishment because of that reason. But that said, they are also neglecting Poole's situation, they have already talked but I think Poole is not forgiving him because of that especially his family.


If there's no sincere forgiveness for each other, then that will create a chemistry problem. Warriors are great and one of the reasons is their good chemistry. Soon we will witness the regular season, so let's just see if the team was really affected with that incident.

I for one think that the drama is over, although it seems to be just a slap in the wrist for Green, however, Poole seems to be ok with it at least, that is the impression that I got.

And so we will see in the regular games, both of them players really knows what's in line as they are the defending champions and they for sure wanted to repeat. And they can't do that if they won't put their difference aside. Steve Kerr will have to be in the middle as well, in the huddle, in the locker room and for sure, he will get the respect.

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October 14, 2022, 09:31:44 PM
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The Warriors can't afford to suspend Green especially now that there's not much time in his contract as they are not that sure if they will really give him his demands, we cannot deny that Green is one of the vital players of their roster and plays a huge part in their center's defense so it's somehow expected that they will just give him a light punishment because of that reason. But that said, they are also neglecting Poole's situation, they have already talked but I think Poole is not forgiving him because of that especially his family.
If there's no sincere forgiveness for each other, then that will create a chemistry problem. Warriors are great and one of the reasons is their good chemistry. Soon we will witness the regular season, so let's just see if the team was really affected with that incident.
At this point, Curry and Klay are very vital parts of the team, and Poole became a very very important part of it as well, do they really need Green? Like truly asking, do they "need" him? The word need means this, for example last year if they didn't had Green, but instead got someone else from the free agency for minimum wage, the best they can, would they still win it?

I know that green is smart and knows the playbook inside out, and that allows him to be crucial part of the team, but he is getting worse and worse and worse each year at this point he just doesn't feel like he worths all the headache he brings anymore and could be not even resigned anymore, because he just doesn't worth keeping around with all is troubles.

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October 15, 2022, 12:21:46 AM
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The Warriors can't afford to suspend Green especially now that there's not much time in his contract as they are not that sure if they will really give him his demands, we cannot deny that Green is one of the vital players of their roster and plays a huge part in their center's defense so it's somehow expected that they will just give him a light punishment because of that reason. But that said, they are also neglecting Poole's situation, they have already talked but I think Poole is not forgiving him because of that especially his family.
If there's no sincere forgiveness for each other, then that will create a chemistry problem. Warriors are great and one of the reasons is their good chemistry. Soon we will witness the regular season, so let's just see if the team was really affected with that incident.
At this point, Curry and Klay are very vital parts of the team, and Poole became a very very important part of it as well, do they really need Green? Like truly asking, do they "need" him? The word need means this, for example last year if they didn't had Green, but instead got someone else from the free agency for minimum wage, the best they can, would they still win it?

I know that green is smart and knows the playbook inside out, and that allows him to be crucial part of the team, but he is getting worse and worse and worse each year at this point he just doesn't feel like he worths all the headache he brings anymore and could be not even resigned anymore, because he just doesn't worth keeping around with all is troubles.
Not to judge him hastily,  but I think this season might be a good gauge if Green is still a good choice for the Warriors to sign an extension next year, or he is really getting that old and need to be replace by someone young and fresh or even in the Warriors team right now.

And there are a lot of speculations and for sure him and Poole could have patch up things, but we just don't know. These high level athletes are very competitive. And maybe the Warriors will live it like that until next season and decided which direction they want to go with this guys.

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October 15, 2022, 12:22:51 AM
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https://www.nba.com/news/zion-williamson-twists-left-ankle
He's okay.
You scared me there for a while after reading your news. I didn't watch their game too.
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“I want to use the right term, but in the moment, it didn’t feel too good,” Williamson said. “It was one of those things that happened and I popped back up like, ‘Yeah, I’m straight.’ Played a few minutes after that, felt fine, then they sent me to the back just to double-check.”
We could say the weight trim is working. If he is still heavy it won't end up like this. Maybe worst.


His injury looked scary because he could easily have broken his ankle because of his weight. Fortunately, Zion got lucky this time because the injury wasn't as bad as it initially looked. It's only a sprained ankle, and I think he'll need a couple of days to recover from that. In any case, if the Pelicans want to perform well this season, they'll need to find a way to keep Zion safe from those kinds of injuries.

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October 15, 2022, 01:10:21 AM
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The Warriors can't afford to suspend Green especially now that there's not much time in his contract as they are not that sure if they will really give him his demands, we cannot deny that Green is one of the vital players of their roster and plays a huge part in their center's defense so it's somehow expected that they will just give him a light punishment because of that reason. But that said, they are also neglecting Poole's situation, they have already talked but I think Poole is not forgiving him because of that especially his family.
If there's no sincere forgiveness for each other, then that will create a chemistry problem. Warriors are great and one of the reasons is their good chemistry. Soon we will witness the regular season, so let's just see if the team was really affected with that incident.
At this point, Curry and Klay are very vital parts of the team, and Poole became a very very important part of it as well, do they really need Green? Like truly asking, do they "need" him? The word need means this, for example last year if they didn't had Green, but instead got someone else from the free agency for minimum wage, the best they can, would they still win it?

I know that green is smart and knows the playbook inside out, and that allows him to be crucial part of the team, but he is getting worse and worse and worse each year at this point he just doesn't feel like he worths all the headache he brings anymore and could be not even resigned anymore, because he just doesn't worth keeping around with all is troubles.
Not to judge him hastily,  but I think this season might be a good gauge if Green is still a good choice for the Warriors to sign an extension next year, or he is really getting that old and need to be replace by someone young and fresh or even in the Warriors team right now.

And there are a lot of speculations and for sure him and Poole could have patch up things, but we just don't know. These high level athletes are very competitive. And maybe the Warriors will live it like that until next season and decided which direction they want to go with this guys.
Draymond Green's shooting skills have been declining though, it is not a speculation both analysts and viewers have been noticing it. Even if he is open he can't shoot it there are good players out there who can defend and shoot at the same time. This is why he can't get the a better contract because he is becoming a big liability if he doesn't improve.

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October 15, 2022, 05:51:02 AM
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In any case, if the Pelicans want to perform well this season, they'll need to find a way to keep Zion safe from those kinds of injuries.

Is there any thing that the Pelicans can do to keep Zion safe?

It's already on Zion to make that possible.

Even the Pelicans can put Zion on load management to reduce the risks of being injured, what if at the time he decided to play, the injury happened? Aside from that, if the Pelicans, let's say have a hard time catching up with the standings next season to keep their playoff spot, they need all the help they can get and that includes allowing Zion to play no matter what.

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October 15, 2022, 06:15:03 AM
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In any case, if the Pelicans want to perform well this season, they'll need to find a way to keep Zion safe from those kinds of injuries.

Is there any thing that the Pelicans can do to keep Zion safe?

It's already on Zion to make that possible.

Even the Pelicans can put Zion on load management to reduce the risks of being injured, what if at the time he decided to play, the injury happened? Aside from that, if the Pelicans, let's say have a hard time catching up with the standings next season to keep their playoff spot, they need all the help they can get and that includes allowing Zion to play no matter what.
I worry more when the worst comes. Another bad injury will mean a lot of things for other teams to think he will not be worth the money anymore.
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.
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It will all be on Zion. That weight trim is not for the team only but for his career too. Time to change, time to be careful, because this will be the crucial part of his career where eyes are mostly on him. He should show he is not as fragile as they think.

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Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

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October 15, 2022, 12:03:25 PM
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Agree with that, it seemed like the consequence is very light, it was a clear violence, he should be suspended at a very least. Well, that's how NBA works,  the system is not fair as it favors more to players whom they think is very valuable to a team.
It is. I thought they are clear about how strict they are with the rules, but it seems like they are short on this one case about Draymond Green.
Anyway, he will be back in the roster, and it was said in reports that him and Poole already talked. I wish there won't be another incident like this and Green have learned his lesson. There will be eyes everywhere and he should be careful about his sudden uncontrollable anger.

The Warriors can't afford to suspend Green especially now that there's not much time in his contract as they are not that sure if they will really give him his demands, we cannot deny that Green is one of the vital players of their roster and plays a huge part in their center's defense so it's somehow expected that they will just give him a light punishment because of that reason. But that said, they are also neglecting Poole's situation, they have already talked but I think Poole is not forgiving him because of that especially his family.


If there's no sincere forgiveness for each other, then that will create a chemistry problem. Warriors are great and one of the reasons is their good chemistry. Soon we will witness the regular season, so let's just see if the team was really affected with that incident.

I've watched their game today, though i did not managed to finish it, but I can say their team chemistry did not get affected by the issue with Green and Poole. They played well both offensively and defensively despite of the loss against the Nuggets. So, many fake news and fake rumors circulating in the internet today regarding Draymond trade, but no I don't think the Warriors would do that. They look great this season with a couple of guys stepping up their game, and the chances of the repeat this year is quite high.
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Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
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I’m watching this Nets/Bucks preseason game and Ben Simmons has 6 points and 6 assists at the end of the first quarter. I’m usually in agreement with Doris Burke, but she’s talking about his stat line and I’m watching the game… Ben has been missing defensive assignments, not going for rebounds, not rolling off the screen, and passing up open jump shots. I actually think he looks pretty bad out there, but he’ll probably get a first half triple double…
Simmons ended up with 7 points, 8 rebounds and   10 assists. Not bad knowing that he isn't 100% and at least he is doing what he really wants to do, and it is to pass and pass the ball. It's good to see him playing again now with a different team.

Unlike when he is in Philly when they want him to shoot threes, I guess he doesn't need to do it now that he is in Brooklyn because the roster is loaded with offensive players like Kyrie, KD, O'neal, Harris and Curry. I think he will be comfortable now because they will not oblige him to shoot because as a point guard of the team, the main objective is to carry the ball and to pass to an open teammate.

The Nets won by 10 points. It's only a pre-season game but still helpful to build the chemistry of both teams.

Yeah, I would say that bad, it's almost triple double isn't it? He has been playing his usual game that this is good enough for him and the Nets. Just to see him ball and being healthy is already a good sign for the Nets. And it's also good to see Harris as well.

Might just be pre-season game, but the chemistry is already there I might say and they could be back as one of the favorites to win this year if everyone remains healthy and focus on one goal.

Simmons are playing impressively, IMO because he is not in any pressure now to give outstanding scores, he is playing what he knows the most and that is laying the table for Kyrie and KD while doing defensive measures as well. Not bad for a player who haven't played for a whole season.

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October 15, 2022, 12:28:08 PM
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In any case, if the Pelicans want to perform well this season, they'll need to find a way to keep Zion safe from those kinds of injuries.

Is there any thing that the Pelicans can do to keep Zion safe?

It's already on Zion to make that possible.

Even the Pelicans can put Zion on load management to reduce the risks of being injured, what if at the time he decided to play, the injury happened? Aside from that, if the Pelicans, let's say have a hard time catching up with the standings next season to keep their playoff spot, they need all the help they can get and that includes allowing Zion to play no matter what.

Exactly, injuries happen, and it is part of the game. They cannot control it if something unfortunate happens to Zion. But they can reduce the risk of it happening. I think the most effective way is that they control his training so that they can be sure that he is always at the top of his health when playing.

I've watched their game today, though i did not managed to finish it, but I can say their team chemistry did not get affected by the issue with Green and Poole. They played well both offensively and defensively despite of the loss against the Nuggets. So, many fake news and fake rumors circulating in the internet today regarding Draymond trade, but no I don't think the Warriors would do that. They look great this season with a couple of guys stepping up their game, and the chances of the repeat this year is quite high.

I haven't watched a single game this pre-season. It is good to know that their chemistry is still intact even though the altercation happened between Poole and Green. They need to bring back the same chemistry that they had last year if they want to successfully defend their title this year. There are plenty of strong teams this year not only in the west but also in the east. They need all the help they can get from their roster.

Those rumors are usually just click baits. They are just taking advantage of the situation to get more clicks, likes, and money.
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October 15, 2022, 12:38:37 PM
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if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.

It won't happen. Instead of giving him enough playing time, why not give that playing time instead to a caliber player?

He's fit in the supporting role, not as a part of the main cast. He can be a valuable backup.

Anothe reason why he is given limited playing time is, it was the health recommendation after being in a major injury.
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if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.

It won't happen. Instead of giving him enough playing time, why not give that playing time instead to a caliber player?

He's fit in the supporting role, not as a part of the main cast. He can be a valuable backup.



There are times that he played more minutes during the last playoffs, and he was making good minutes. What I'm thinking is, how about giving him more playing time to build more confidence, maybe he is not anymore in his prime but with his experience and his aggressiveness inside, he sure can be a huge asset to the team.

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Another reason why he is given limited playing time is, it was the health recommendation after being in a major injury.
I think over time that injury will heal and he will be fully healthy again. Derrick Rose was once seriously injured but when he played in the Knicks, the coaching staff trusted him and he played heavy minutes.
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if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.

It won't happen. Instead of giving him enough playing time, why not give that playing time instead to a caliber player?

He's fit in the supporting role, not as a part of the main cast. He can be a valuable backup.

Anothe reason why he is given limited playing time is, it was the health recommendation after being in a major injury.

I agree with you, otherwise, cousins would not be having a hard time getting signed into a team. The fact that he only gets a short-term contract, that only means that the team sees the risk that he could be injured anytime and he will be a liability again to the team. Being in the 2nd unit is more effective for him, and getting limited minutes would help him minimize the risk of getting injured.
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Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

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October 15, 2022, 02:49:50 PM
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Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

I like what he is doing because he is still very eager to come back, he is doing everything to be fully shaped so that he can be more versatile. I'm guessing, maybe there are teams already that are interested in him but his agent is just carefully evaluating the offers before they will formally choose a team to sign with.

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October 15, 2022, 03:13:57 PM
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Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

I have a speculation that maybe because of his attitude, team are not willing to give him at least 1 year to proved his worth in the NBA. But damn, during his prime, DeMarcus Cousins was beast and he was really huge that it's hard to stop him because of him being versatile, inside and out. And we thought that he can achieved success with the Warriors as well, but it was too bad that after he joined, some members too, got injured.

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October 15, 2022, 03:41:39 PM
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Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

I have a speculation that maybe because of his attitude, team are not willing to give him at least 1 year to proved his worth in the NBA. But damn, during his prime, DeMarcus Cousins was beast and he was really huge that it's hard to stop him because of him being versatile, inside and out. And we thought that he can achieved success with the Warriors as well, but it was too bad that after he joined, some members too, got injured.

And to add to that, maybe teams are really looking for someone that is not fragile, and at the point of Cousins career, he might get injured again and it will be over for him. Players like Carmelo and to some extend Howard was able to get a contract like year could be because of Lebron. But they have seen the getting a old and wash up player is a bad idea and it may have set a precedence for other veterans not to be sign up this season, including Cousins even though he show signs that he can still play, in my opinion.

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