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[decodx]

OP promised to revise his accusation with proof on that thread but it's been 24 hours and the thread is lacking with substance or proof, it's still an allegation, there is nothing to resolve here until he can post proofs that he's been scammed, he must show screenshots, conversation, communication this is how we do it here, you don't post with only words, it won't stand.

I see that the OP has updated his accusation with some new context, but still without providing any concrete evidence.

I am unsure what to think of this. It is hard to say based on what we have seen so far whether or not this is true. So it would be really great if a lightlord or another person authorized to speak for the company came forward and provided some official explanation of what's really going on.

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[tygeade]

^This is not really a big news these days. Bitvest and Lightlord has kept some peoples money with the fact that he didn't show up and filled the hot wallet as well. This has happened for a while and I believe that you could be basically "scammed" in that sense. Think about it, how many people tried to withdraw, fail because hot wallet was empty, then played again because they couldn't withdraw, would have the money if they were allowed to withdraw but now have zero? We all tell these people "you should have waited until hot wallet was filled" but the reality is that we are victim shaming in that case.

I believe lightlord dropped the ball for a long time now, just because he ended up paying again, after 10 weeks! is not something we should be saying "oh okay, he is legit" because paying after 10 weeks is not acceptable and not filling the hot wallet is not either.

[add1ct3dd]

^This is not really a big news these days. Bitvest and Lightlord has kept some peoples money with the fact that he didn't show up and filled the hot wallet as well. This has happened for a while and I believe that you could be basically "scammed" in that sense. Think about it, how many people tried to withdraw, fail because hot wallet was empty, then played again because they couldn't withdraw, would have the money if they were allowed to withdraw but now have zero? We all tell these people "you should have waited until hot wallet was filled" but the reality is that we are victim shaming in that case.

I believe lightlord dropped the ball for a long time now, just because he ended up paying again, after 10 weeks! is not something we should be saying "oh okay, he is legit" because paying after 10 weeks is not acceptable and not filling the hot wallet is not either.

Lightlord and Bitvest both were very reputable and good here for very long time but recently due to some his health issues and other projects these are going in trouble and many issues appearing which need some quick work from lightlord but sadly still he is not available for any update about this just few days back signature solution solved and participants have their 10 weeks pay now he needs to fix this hot wallet issue also quickly because this can give more problems for him and users.

I was also in this casino few months back but due to these issue I completely drop this strange thing is his developer zodiac is also not available for very long time because he was also very helpful in many situations which was helpful for users.

[lienfaye]

I am unsure what to think of this. It is hard to say based on what we have seen so far whether or not this is true. So it would be really great if a lightlord or another person authorized to speak for the company came forward and provided some official explanation of what's really going on.

The problem is, the owner is not giving explanation and still ignoring the issue about his casino particularly on withdrawal.

This is not an isolated case because we know recently there's a player who also have similar problem but fortunately got his money after weeks of waiting, but still the owner is not giving any word.

I wonder how many players has also the same issues or is it only for players who have huge money to withdraw?

[peter0425]

^This is not really a big news these days. Bitvest and Lightlord has kept some peoples money with the fact that he didn't show up and filled the hot wallet as well. This has happened for a while and I believe that you could be basically "scammed" in that sense. Think about it, how many people tried to withdraw, fail because hot wallet was empty, then played again because they couldn't withdraw, would have the money if they were allowed to withdraw but now have zero? We all tell these people "you should have waited until hot wallet was filled" but the reality is that we are victim shaming in that case.

I believe lightlord dropped the ball for a long time now, just because he ended up paying again, after 10 weeks! is not something we should be saying "oh okay, he is legit" because paying after 10 weeks is not acceptable and not filling the hot wallet is not either.

Lightlord and Bitvest both were very reputable and good here for very long time but recently due to some his health issues and other projects these are going in trouble and many issues appearing which need some quick work from lightlord but sadly still he is not available for any update about this just few days back signature solution solved and participants have their 10 weeks pay now he needs to fix this hot wallet issue also quickly because this can give more problems for him and users.

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

I was also in this casino few months back but due to these issue I completely drop this strange thing is his developer zodiac is also not available for very long time because he was also very helpful in many situations which was helpful for users.

way back Zodiac is helpful but nowadas like lightlord he is MIA .

[Qunenin]

He is refusing to pay me about $4000
Will not process my trouble tickets
Will not reply to email
Will not answer anything
Mods on his forum even said he has been Mia
I’m not a new player I have played.  Just never won this much.  I’m not a sore loser I stil have it in my account
Yes I’m new here because this is my last resort to get help
I can post pics of the conversations and current balance but o don’t know how.
I have no reason to lie .  He knows I’m honest and he knows he is not paying me it’s that simple

As you are saying that they are refusing to pay you 4000$, it seems something wrong either from your side or from their side. But if you think your claim is legit then you should post your proper claim on here and if still not find the solution then you should create scam accusation on the scam accusation board.

4000$ is a big amount and this issue should be addressed immediately. If the situation remains like this for next few days, you should open a scam accusation against bitvest, so everyone should be cautious in depositing in this site.

[coin-investor]

4000$ is a big amount and this issue should be addressed immediately. If the situation remains like this for next few days, you should open a scam accusation against bitvest, so everyone should be cautious in depositing in this site.

He already opened a thread

Refusing to pay about $4000 in winnings on bitvest.io. He promised to comeback revise the thread and upload all the proofs, unfortunately it's been two days and the thread is not yet revised we have no idea if the accusation is legit and serious, until we see all his proofs, this allegation is just hearsay.


Update ; Yes he already updated the proofs lighlord should update this issue after checking the screenshots I saw that he has a legit claim on Bitvest I hope Lighlord will log in and be active here again and check this issue

[Jawhead999]

I wonder how many players has also the same issues or is it only for players who have huge money to withdraw?

Probably is, most accusation against this site are about pending/delayed withdrawal of large sum money.

He already opened a thread

Refusing to pay about $4000 in winnings on bitvest.io. He promised to comeback revise the thread and upload all the proofs, unfortunately it's been two days and the thread is not yet revised we have no idea if the accusation is legit and serious, until we see all his proofs, this allegation is just hearsay.

He has upload some proof here so it's legit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365916.msg58196734#msg58196734

so everyone should be cautious in depositing in this site.

I'm not seeing bitvest would turn become a scam casino yet, but people who played in bitvest should be patience and take a risk of delayed withdrawal issue.

[coin-investor]

I wonder how many players has also the same issues or is it only for players who have huge money to withdraw?

Probably is, most accusation against this site are about pending/delayed withdrawal of large sum money.

He already opened a thread

Refusing to pay about $4000 in winnings on bitvest.io. He promised to comeback revise the thread and upload all the proofs, unfortunately it's been two days and the thread is not yet revised we have no idea if the accusation is legit and serious, until we see all his proofs, this allegation is just hearsay.

He has upload some proof here so it's legit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365916.msg58196734#msg58196734

so everyone should be cautious in depositing in this site.

I'm not seeing bitvest would turn become a scam casino yet, but people who played in bitvest should be patience and take a risk of delayed withdrawal issue.

I now see the proofs it's legit it's a huge amount of money if you have that money and the admin is not log in there is a reason to panic he already paid his signature participants, it's triple the amount of what OP is asking to get paid Lighlord should pay or the tag will remain, he cannot continue the campaign with one legit allegation unresolve.

[dezoel]

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

[24Kt]

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

I think with the recent situation on these 2 sites, I believe, lightlord will have contingency plans now as he is receiving negative trust in the forum. Hopefully, he will change his business ethics as it is really affecting the regular players of these 2 sites. Of course, if you got burned once, hard for you to go back, right? So now, he needs to think about the future of this business. We will know what will happen in the next coming days...

[peter0425]

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

i see your point but what i am telling here is that either he is sick or not yet the issue is the same for more than years now and that is the delaying ofg payments in which i find no respect for what other need or think as long as he is paying and with a PEANUT bonus.
that is the main issue here and that is same reason why his negative ratings still remain because of his behavior and not because of any reason.

[robelneo]

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

What happened to Lighlord could happen to other admin of gambling casinos if they are serious in running their casinos if these circumstances happen they should have contingency measures like people who the admins can trust to manage the project even if he is away, there's news that he will escrow payment to signature participants but there will be new pay rate and it's 10% lower than the current rate, not really good news for participants they should make is a dollar-based rate like all the other campaigns are doing.

[lienfaye]

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

i see your point but what i am telling here is that either he is sick or not yet the issue is the same for more than years now and that is the delaying ofg payments in which i find no respect for what other need or think as long as he is paying and with a PEANUT bonus.
that is the main issue here and that is same reason why his negative ratings still remain because of his behavior and not because of any reason.

I agree, the delays of payment (not to mention the withdrawal issue of his casino) is happening even before, and its not because he's sick or had a personal problem. Its about his behavior on how to handle these issues. If he cant do it alone then would it be better if he has representative here, so even he is too busy for some things to attend to, there is someone who can act on his behalf. Im certain he is aware of these problems but it seems he opted to keep mum.

[Findingnemo]

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

i see your point but what i am telling here is that either he is sick or not yet the issue is the same for more than years now and that is the delaying ofg payments in which i find no respect for what other need or think as long as he is paying and with a PEANUT bonus.
that is the main issue here and that is same reason why his negative ratings still remain because of his behavior and not because of any reason.

Sometimes unexpected things may cause delays in our work but keep repeating the same thing over with no any explanation is what put them under danger zone now, Lightlord paid the campaign payments but there is no further explanation about escrow he promised in another thread.

[aioc]

i see your point but what i am telling here is that either he is sick or not yet the issue is the same for more than years now and that is the delaying ofg payments in which i find no respect for what other need or think as long as he is paying and with a PEANUT bonus.
that is the main issue here and that is same reason why his negative ratings still remain because of his behavior and not because of any reason.

We can say that Lighlord does not have commitment, these are gambling sites he's managing and if there's an issue on hot wallet and withdrawals it will cast doubt if the gambling site is still reputable, it's not about how long the casinos are operating or how long the administrator is running his casinos, he cannot use that alibi, players are gambling because they believe there will no issues on hot wallet and withdrawal.
If Lighlord is serious on still running these two casinos he must show up take responsibility and speak up and guaranty that the casinos are still ok and they are going to address all issues, this is what we all want to see.  

[btc78]

wrong in this mate because the Health Issue of lightlord just came out recently but this Hot wallet issue and the delayed in Payments for signature participants has been around for more than 2 years now meaning lightlord really losses His sympathy in these 2 gambling site.

That "sickness" created even a bigger problem in many people's mind as well. What happens if he dies? I mean seriously, nobody is invincible and they could end up dying, which includes lightlord as well. What happens to everyone if that happens? This period proved that even when he is sick, we do not get our money, not from hot wallets by gamblers, not from signature campaign work either, nobody gets any money because he was sick.

If he delayed so much just because he was sick, that literally means if he ever dies, then we can say goodbye to our money. Is that something we could actually accept? Maybe there should be some plan B by lightlord in case he is sick, he is unreachable or he is dead, because if the whole casino relies on him living and being active, then it is a big risk. Anyone can think anything they want, but I rather not trust my money into someone's health.

i see your point but what i am telling here is that either he is sick or not yet the issue is the same for more than years now and that is the delaying ofg payments in which i find no respect for what other need or think as long as he is paying and with a PEANUT bonus.
that is the main issue here and that is same reason why his negative ratings still remain because of his behavior and not because of any reason.

Sometimes unexpected things may cause delays in our work but keep repeating the same thing over with no any explanation is what put them under danger zone now, Lightlord paid the campaign payments but there is no further explanation about escrow he promised in another thread.

and that is why the campaign does not restarting again because the Manager wanted to be assured he can pay every participants each week not like what they are doing now.
though there is another case in which the Payments will be again deducted by 10-15%  and this is another Hurt butt to the participants.

[blockman]

I now see the proofs it's legit it's a huge amount of money if you have that money and the admin is not log in there is a reason to panic he already paid his signature participants, it's triple the amount of what OP is asking to get paid Lighlord should pay or the tag will remain, he cannot continue the campaign with one legit allegation unresolve.

Still no settlement from that balance and unpaid balance from that user? The campaign has been paid already and looking to have the solution to continue it.
Meanwhile, it should be the main business to provide the best customer service and pending withdrawals should be the priority since it's the one that keeps everything run.

[robelneo]

I now see the proofs it's legit it's a huge amount of money if you have that money and the admin is not log in there is a reason to panic he already paid his signature participants, it's triple the amount of what OP is asking to get paid Lighlord should pay or the tag will remain, he cannot continue the campaign with one legit allegation unresolve.

Still no settlement from that balance and unpaid balance from that user? The campaign has been paid already and looking to have the solution to continue it.
Meanwhile, it should be the main business to provide the best customer service and pending withdrawals should be the priority since it's the one that keeps everything run.

Lightlord last login was 2 days ago we don't know if he is aware of this issue at all, no use sending him pm because he is not replying, he still has a lot of bad feedbacks but these are coming from unpaid signature payment if this issue escalates he will have a lot of bad feedback and may end just like the admin of 1XBIT.
This is not good this is something that should be addressed ASAP the reputation of the two casinos are at stake if both casinos lose their reputation the bounty participants if they push through with the campaign, will have a risk of getting a red tag for promoting scam casinos.

[bitterguy28]

I now see the proofs it's legit it's a huge amount of money if you have that money and the admin is not log in there is a reason to panic he already paid his signature participants, it's triple the amount of what OP is asking to get paid Lighlord should pay or the tag will remain, he cannot continue the campaign with one legit allegation unresolve.

Still no settlement from that balance and unpaid balance from that user? The campaign has been paid already and looking to have the solution to continue it.
Meanwhile, it should be the main business to provide the best customer service and pending withdrawals should be the priority since it's the one that keeps everything run.

Lightlord last login was 2 days ago we don't know if he is aware of this issue at all, no use sending him pm because he is not replying, he still has a lot of bad feedbacks but these are coming from unpaid signature payment if this issue escalates he will have a lot of bad feedback and may end just like the admin of 1XBIT.
This is not good this is something that should be addressed ASAP the reputation of the two casinos are at stake if both casinos lose their reputation the bounty participants if they push through with the campaign, will have a risk of getting a red tag for promoting scam casinos.

The message from the campaign manager is clear that they have agreed in escrowing the funds at least 2 weeks at a time but the problem is here we go again , he seems to be Missing in action again while the the Campaign is still On Hold.

I must say that lucky that i come to leave and transfer to accurate paying campaign because lightlord is not that man enough to make His business run properly.

Hoping that if this will re start the budget will be Hold by the manager and lightlord will refill each time to prevent holding again.