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[arwin100]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

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[ethereumhunter]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

I think they have some issues which might be too complex to describe here. @lightlord himself is still busy with what he's going through in real life so maybe that's why he hasn't been able to come back here and explain to us.

But I don't think @lightlord will abandon what he built years ago because he has earned a good reputation with his two sites. We don't know how much longer he will be back here and hopefully, this year will be a good time for him and his team to get things right.

[Findingnemo]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

I think they have some issues which might be too complex to describe here. @lightlord himself is still busy with what he's going through in real life so maybe that's why he hasn't been able to come back here and explain to us.

But I don't think @lightlord will abandon what he built years ago because he has earned a good reputation with his two sites. We don't know how much longer he will be back here and hopefully, this year will be a good time for him and his team to get things right.

No matter how long their are operating, it won't take too long for the people to lose their trust on them and there are tons of examples are out there. I don't know what is going on but remaining silent will make the customers more frustrated and at some point even their loyal customers will think about switching to new so act fast is the solution.

[aioc]

No matter how long their are operating, it won't take too long for the people to lose their trust on them and there are tons of examples are out there. I don't know what is going on but remaining silent will make the customers more frustrated and at some point even their loyal customers will think about switching to new so act fast is the solution.

They know that being a casino operator for a long period of time, I think they are still good, they are not coming down here to post, not doing anything even though Lightlord logs in from time to time there's no serious concern on their part because they will resolve whatever issue there is, I hope Lightlord still manage to keep the two casinos it's not easy to reach that eight years of operation and it's one big achievement already.

[tabas]

it is difficult to say that Bitcointalk support or marketing works at all.

There's no longer marketing on the forum, there's no support either here. But going to the website, things are continually working until the hot wallet is dry.
Other than that, if there's no new problem then it means that things are working fine and if there's a new one, just go back to the cause of it because most of them are about withdrawals.

For sure if the hot wallet will empty many gamblers starts to complain about this site and those user will quit and leave a negative feedback and then that time for how many years building their trust will be ruined forever.  But if lightlord will fix this issues as soon as possible there's a chance that the positive trust of these two sites will remain.

There are some that have already complained.
It's already been said that lightlord will get to fix all of these issues but he has said that when he gets well. He probably still struggling with his health and everyone wishes him a speedy recovery or there are really some other problems and issues that he's dealing with right now personally.

[Findingnemo]

it is difficult to say that Bitcointalk support or marketing works at all.

There's no longer marketing on the forum, there's no support either here. But going to the website, things are continually working until the hot wallet is dry.
Other than that, if there's no new problem then it means that things are working fine and if there's a new one, just go back to the cause of it because most of them are about withdrawals.

For sure if the hot wallet will empty many gamblers starts to complain about this site and those user will quit and leave a negative feedback and then that time for how many years building their trust will be ruined forever.  But if lightlord will fix this issues as soon as possible there's a chance that the positive trust of these two sites will remain.

There are some that have already complained.
It's already been said that lightlord will get to fix all of these issues but he has said that when he gets well. He probably still struggling with his health and everyone wishes him a speedy recovery or there are really some other problems and issues that he's dealing with right now personally.

He can respond here atleast something because he is logging in often but never responded to anything that is why the suspicion begins. I hope he will recover fast if he has any health issues but making it transparent may hold the loss of trust on their loyalty customers and if he still think his private life is more important than its his own choice.

[Naficopa]

There are some that have already complained.
It's already been said that lightlord will get to fix all of these issues but he has said that when he gets well. He probably still struggling with his health and everyone wishes him a speedy recovery or there are really some other problems and issues that he's dealing with right now personally.

I also wish him to recover as soon as possible, but that he is feeling better and that everything will soon return to normal he wrote two months ago. From what can be seen on his profile, he is active on Bitcointalk from time to time, so if he is serious about his business, he should write at least a small update about situation.

[Chato1977]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

Well yeah there are some irregularities in lightlords management and how He runs the casino lately , and i know that this is something that cannot be tolerated , but lets still accept the fact that this casinos of lightlord had not yet scammed anyone , yeah there are delays but in the end they are still paying.

[Saisher]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

Well yeah there are some irregularities in lightlords management and how He runs the casino lately , and i know that this is something that cannot be tolerated , but lets still accept the fact that this casinos of lightlord had not yet scammed anyone , yeah there are delays but in the end they are still paying.

They are still on it, they are reaping of what they planted, 8 years is 8years of operation and marketing here, you can not take that achievement if some casinos can run their casino without launching announcements here or even promoting here, why not Bitvest and 777COIN.

We still drop here to check if the site is still stable, although some of us will not admit it, they are wishing that the devs will be active again and launch a campaign again, we love the good times and lightlord's two casinos are part of our good times.

[ultrloa]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

Well yeah there are some irregularities in lightlords management and how He runs the casino lately , and i know that this is something that cannot be tolerated , but lets still accept the fact that this casinos of lightlord had not yet scammed anyone , yeah there are delays but in the end they are still paying.

They are still on it, they are reaping of what they planted, 8 years is 8years of operation and marketing here, you can not take that achievement if some casinos can run their casino without launching announcements here or even promoting here, why not Bitvest and 777COIN.

We still drop here to check if the site is still stable, although some of us will not admit it, they are wishing that the devs will be active again and launch a campaign again, we love the good times and lightlord's two casinos are part of our good times.

All come have ends and for running for 8 years we can say that they been successful for their operation, but at this point its seems that they are in the edge as they are not delivering good exposure compare before. Lets do hope that they are just dealing with their personal issues since its still good to see them running for more long years as they are still consider one of the best casino exist.

[Captain Corporate]

All come have ends and for running for 8 years we can say that they been successful for their operation, but at this point its seems that they are in the edge as they are not delivering good exposure compare before. Lets do hope that they are just dealing with their personal issues since its still good to see them running for more long years as they are still consider one of the best casino exist.

 I wouldn't say they would be "gone" obviously, but they will probably not be as good or as liked as they used to be. This means that they need to do a lot more marketing to get people, which is not simply be enough if they keep doing signature campaigns that keep getting paid late all the time. They need to do a lot more promotions, bonuses and campaigns that would be a lot better. Doesn't mean that they have to giveaway a lot, but in a world where the big names are distributing millions a year, this place offering the smallest amount for signature campaign and then not even paying that in time, thats not really enough for them to get back.

[panjul07]

All come have ends and for running for 8 years we can say that they been successful for their operation, but at this point its seems that they are in the edge as they are not delivering good exposure compare before. Lets do hope that they are just dealing with their personal issues since its still good to see them running for more long years as they are still consider one of the best casino exist.

 I wouldn't say they would be "gone" obviously, but they will probably not be as good or as liked as they used to be. This means that they need to do a lot more marketing to get people, which is not simply be enough if they keep doing signature campaigns that keep getting paid late all the time. They need to do a lot more promotions, bonuses and campaigns that would be a lot better. Doesn't mean that they have to giveaway a lot, but in a world where the big names are distributing millions a year, this place offering the smallest amount for signature campaign and then not even paying that in time, thats not really enough for them to get back.

They would not be gone but it is very possible if players decide to go and stay away from Bitvest if the situation is getting worst or no improvement from Lightlord.
Activity from the owner in this forum is the most important thing for now IMO, I know Lightlord has health problem but I think he can hire some staffs to cover his inactivity.
I would not even talk about signature campaign, it will be useless if lightlord is still inactive and will make people doubt about the payment as what happened in the past unless he send some money in escrow.

[FanEagle]

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

Well yeah there are some irregularities in lightlords management and how He runs the casino lately , and i know that this is something that cannot be tolerated , but lets still accept the fact that this casinos of lightlord had not yet scammed anyone , yeah there are delays but in the end they are still paying.

That is the hardest part for everyone involved as well. Since they have never scammed anyone, people are not entirely sure what to do and how to approach it. I mean if it was a scam then you would say it is a scam and get out of it, and that would be all. However since it is not a scam, what can you even do about it?

Just complain that he is constantly late? That's it? It is annoying and terrible feeling to wait weeks and weeks, at one point over two months just to get paid, and that is only signature campaign, there were moments when hot wallet was empty as well. All of which could be annoying enough to change casinos. But since it is not a scam, nobody can really do anything about it.

[Mahanton]

There's undeniable that they are one of the oldest running casino here and I believe they have reputation built in this community but what's really not good to see are the changes of their behaviour and issues are showing on their business. Maybe they are not gaining enough users to play already that's why we see them slowly getting some issues like what happen on the past. But I believe lightlord still doing his best to create more good things in his casino.

Well yeah there are some irregularities in lightlords management and how He runs the casino lately , and i know that this is something that cannot be tolerated , but lets still accept the fact that this casinos of lightlord had not yet scammed anyone , yeah there are delays but in the end they are still paying.

That is the hardest part for everyone involved as well. Since they have never scammed anyone, people are not entirely sure what to do and how to approach it. I mean if it was a scam then you would say it is a scam and get out of it, and that would be all. However since it is not a scam, what can you even do about it?

Just complain that he is constantly late? That's it? It is annoying and terrible feeling to wait weeks and weeks, at one point over two months just to get paid, and that is only signature campaign, there were moments when hot wallet was empty as well. All of which could be annoying enough to change casinos. But since it is not a scam, nobody can really do anything about it.

We do have lots of options actually on this market which it would really be that common sense to jump into other casinos if you dont have good experience on bitvest due to those delays or other complaints and issues.
You wouldn't really be that dumb on staying if you do know that there are current issues which hadn't been resolved and people had been waiting up for so long for some clarifications
and announcement in regard with the condition of this site.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

I still remember very well, bitvest was the first crypto casino site I tried and I found out about it from this forum. although I see the discussion on Bitvest's reputation is hot but I'm sure lightlord is paying attention to this. he must have a good plan to increase the popularity of bitvest which has been built for 10 years.

[tabas]

He can respond here atleast something because he is logging in often but never responded to anything that is why the suspicion begins. I hope he will recover fast if he has any health issues but making it transparent may hold the loss of trust on their loyalty customers and if he still think his private life is more important than its his own choice.

That's also what I'm thinking but we don't know the reason and he has already said a few words that would give us an idea on what he's dealing with.

I also wish him to recover as soon as possible, but that he is feeling better and that everything will soon return to normal he wrote two months ago. From what can be seen on his profile, he is active on Bitcointalk from time to time, so if he is serious about his business, he should write at least a small update about situation.

You guys are right but we have no idea what could be the reason why he's not doing that. Nevertheless, everyone has just to wait for him on this thread again and if there are no complaints yet, then things are going smoothly.

[Pseudo-Random]

[..] That's also what I'm thinking but we don't know the reason and he has already said a few words that would give us an idea on what he's dealing with..

 False. We do know. He said so. Health complications due to rushed, poorly-tested, poorly-researched, immunology-harmful covid vaccines

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 And we do also know for over two & a half years now precisely why the BV hotwallets are deliberately kept low and empty out easily (and no, lightlord doesn't just want to hire some staff or representative to replace him when he can't handle things, because he doesn't TRUST other people with ACCESS to SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS of SITE USERS' FUNDS) :

On August 14th, 2019, a bug was exploited in Keno. The exploit allowed anyone to win the maximum multiplier in "Top Bottom" mode when placing a very specific malformed bet. This resulted in a user winning a large sum of funds and withdrawing the maximum amount possible without triggering manual withdrawals. This caused irrecoverable losses to investors equal to the balance of the hot wallets.

We have taken the losses on ourselves and have paid back investors with our personally held coins. All investors who were part of the bankroll at the time of the incident have had all related losses credited back to their investments.

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[..] You guys are right but we have no idea what could be the reason why he's not.. [..]

 False. We do know. I explained it to you, as I've known & observed the bitvest administration for over 5 years -- since February 2017 :

 ..Yet that's the thing.

 The hotwallet problems began in August *2019, for a VERY *SPECIFIC* GOOD reason, and have never stopped since. And THEY WON'T. The reasons are fundamental

 Nothing about hotwallet problems on BITVEST will EVER get "permanently fixed" (and other latent issues, such as terribly, poor, biased moderator critical thinking/judgment, and absentee status of administrators LL/Zodiac, are quite unlikely to suddenly fix themselves either)

 Players will continue waiting and waiting and waiting whenever they happened to haplessly have won & then attempted a withdrawal simultaneously at a time when other users also had won & had already successfully withdrew funds, thus leaving the sparsely filled site wallet empty ; for hours if very lucky, for several days typically, or potentially for weeks on end as happened to me with dogecoin 4 months ago..

 -- because, the owner **does not care anymore**, his deteriorated health + any number of other situations in his personal life now mean he has vastly more important priorities to cater to than the proper, responsible administration & functioning of his site

 Yes, you guessed it Einstein -- this does also mean he couldn't give less of a shit about "market share erosion unto a growing slice of competitors' gambling offer" because the meager revenues from operating BV do not constitute a primary lifeline for LL's subsistence any longer ; and so it is hard for all this to be such a big, pressing deal to him -- not to mention the OBVIOUS fact (if you actually did play on the casino & observe players' trends over time) that it is the same old regular punters that have been using BV for years & years, all the while grunting out some repeated irked grievances at its "rigged" "unfair" systems -- therefore inevitably returning to it, completely lost in disgruntled yet hopeless addiction, regardless of any sig campaign revival, marketing push, or loss of trust via lack of communication + continuous hotwallet problems

 This CAN happen to project managers or business owners, over the course of a long decade, they just can't muster the inspiration to give a fuck anymore about their project. And so I'm pretty sure LL would have CLOSED BV long ago rather than reluctantly keep dealing with all the work & ignorant complaints, if he hadn't closely observed and understood just how cherished it is as a haven by its degenerate rabble of gamblers & junkies glued to it 24/7 - so much so that the site's sudden absence causes a whole upending in their errant lives ; for the unusually different type of gambling it offers them - not to mention its colorfully unhinged & mostly uncensored chatting community

 It's a shame you fools can't have understood this in 247* pages of spam and it took my time & effort to explain it to your obtusely confused, desperate, hungry, anxiously-spammed sig-campaign posts

 I for the record am fine with things as they have been, for I long ago acquired the sensible maturity to cognizantly accept this is how this weird site is gonna be functioning, you might well get to siphon more free coin mileage here via the token conversion system than via periodic bonuses granted in copycat fashion after one another, by the dozens of other sites ; and by the rng here POTENTIALLY (unconfirmed) being more favorable than elsewhere ; BUT, you WILL WAIT whenever you have a support ticket or withdrawal in line

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 Yes, I am Dr. Phil ; Yes thank you for tuning in to this 72nd* episode of Degen Blues Radio ; I am BV Lv.[16], w/ multiple Lv.9-14 alt accounts, don't forget to hit the [Like]/[Subscribe] button and see you all next time ;p

[Shamm]

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This is what I am telling them few months ago that if lightlord still care or he will not ruined all the trust and reputation of his casino he must hire some assistant or a representative to handle of any problem if there's a problem about the casinos if he will not arround.
If that is true that lightlord is not an healthy right now because of his condition he must tell someone from his family to temporary handle his casinos.

[Reatim]

Yes as long as players can play and get they withdrawal from the site that settle it, Bitvest have to build a long-time reputation and its users are well aware of that so they don't border much about the team is active on the forum. So at that long players can deposit and withdraw from the site everything is fine at that.

Have to Build a long time reputation? Bitvest had been operating for almost 10 years now and I believe that the already build their reputation , though these past years they are changing and needs to prove that they are still worth playing for.
I still believe that they will rebuild their reputation if @lightlord really wanted this to happen.

I still remember very well, bitvest was the first crypto casino site I tried and I found out about it from this forum. although I see the discussion on Bitvest's reputation is hot but I'm sure lightlord is paying attention to this. he must have a good plan to increase the popularity of bitvest which has been built for 10 years.

I'm afraid that its getting late for Him to made such movement , more than 2 years that his gambling site (Specially Bitvest) that facing same issue over and over and that is the Funds involved , yeah he is paying all the troubled funds yet not in the time the gamblers needed it and i think this is already a red flag, and also he kept mentioning to act best sooner but time is running yet no good activities from his part and the problem of wallet having funds are always the issue.
maybe lets accept the fact that those casino he owns are already dying?

[tabas]

because he doesn't TRUST other people with ACCESS to SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS of SITE USERS' FUNDS)[/i] :

You're right on this one.
That's a personal thing that he wants to do and can't entrust this duty to anyone with the funds. The solution to avoid the drying of the hot wallet is to give this duty to anyone he trusts when he's out and can't fulfill it when the hot wallet is about to become empty.

maybe lets accept the fact that those casino he owns are already dying?

There are still plenty of players that are active so I don't think it's dying. It's just about maintaining the hot wallet before it dries out of funds.