[ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network

[jwinterm]

RIP in peace gembitz

First of all you should learn what is the meaning of RIP and than tell us what you actually want to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rest_in_peace

Second of all you should learn what is the memeing of RIP in peace and then learn to use "than" or "then" and then tell us how english isn't your first language:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rip-in-peace

[KawaBunGa]

Hello guys! How many coins should i have to receive POS rewards?

The current ticket price is around 129 DCR, but with ticket splitting feature you can participate in staking with only 5 DCR + transaction fees. You can find everything you need to know about ticket splitting here

[Wind_FURY]

I really like the user interface of this site. It's not difficult for beginners to navigate. The information conveyed is also straightforward and to the point. Very well developed. But I still look forward to your bounty or airdrop

Keep in mind you can also do split ticket buying with as little as five decred, so that may be another option for you if you do not have enough to purchase a ticket on your own.

Plus if anyone wants to "stake" for larger amounts, now is the time, or it's "almost" time if you want to buy the lower dip.

Decred has never looked better for HODLING.

The ticket price is already 142 DCR and it's gonna rise even more over time. So staking doesn't look so good right now. Hodling - well, I think to sell Decred now before the next bull run would be a huge mistake.

But can't everyone buy more tickets with Decred priced below $20.00, with 142 DCR ticket, than a few months ago when Decred's price was $30.00, with 100 DCR ticket?

Plus the first objective is to HODL, staking rewards is a bonus.

I see your point. I even created a chart to see how the ticket price in USD has been changing last year and it's pretty clear that it is almost the lowest right now.



So if you want to buy and hodl and stake Decred, maybe it's the right time. But from my perspective as a long-time DCR hodler, staking becomes less and less profitable. I used to buy almost twice as many tickets a while ago, and the number of tickets I'm able to buy with my stake will only decrease over time.

YES! That's it! Thanks for making this.

But staking helps, and the rewards should only really be a bonus for participating, and be a part of the network. It's not like you pay some costs for staking.

[KawaBunGa]

I really like the user interface of this site. It's not difficult for beginners to navigate. The information conveyed is also straightforward and to the point. Very well developed. But I still look forward to your bounty or airdrop

Keep in mind you can also do split ticket buying with as little as five decred, so that may be another option for you if you do not have enough to purchase a ticket on your own.

Plus if anyone wants to "stake" for larger amounts, now is the time, or it's "almost" time if you want to buy the lower dip.

Decred has never looked better for HODLING.

The ticket price is already 142 DCR and it's gonna rise even more over time. So staking doesn't look so good right now. Hodling - well, I think to sell Decred now before the next bull run would be a huge mistake.

But can't everyone buy more tickets with Decred priced below $20.00, with 142 DCR ticket, than a few months ago when Decred's price was $30.00, with 100 DCR ticket?

Plus the first objective is to HODL, staking rewards is a bonus.

I see your point. I even created a chart to see how the ticket price in USD has been changing last year and it's pretty clear that it is almost the lowest right now.



So if you want to buy and hodl and stake Decred, maybe it's the right time. But from my perspective as a long-time DCR hodler, staking becomes less and less profitable. I used to buy almost twice as many tickets a while ago, and the number of tickets I'm able to buy with my stake will only decrease over time.

YES! That's it! Thanks for making this.

But staking helps, and the rewards should only really be a bonus for participating, and be a part of the network. It's not like you pay some costs for staking.

You're welcome! And yes, I understand that staking isn't just a way of generating some passive income, as jy-p explained here. So don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, it just happens that I wouldn't mind still getting a bigger bonus, that's all

[gembitz]

LOL the fudders decided to make a coordinated attack.
As has been said a thousand times before, but gembitz e jwinterm ignore, the premine was distributed via airdrop to the community and the other half was not for "the developers" but for the "development fund", which is also used to pay marketing, designers, events, etc.

About the vote, you must also have more than 60% of your total votes for your proposal to be validated.
You may have the most votes "yes", but if many of the other people clicked "no" on your proposal, you will need more votes to reach 60% of the total (yes+no).

Please don't do that. Taking the easy way out of the debate by shouting "FUD". Remember, that in Decred, changes/new features that were voted, and hard forked in the network, cannot simply be changed back to the state it was in before.

I believe when Decred becomes large enough, it will also go through the same problems that Bitcoin did, like the "scaling debate".

Anyone else have a reply? Please post them. I'm really starting to believe that "blockchain governance" of any form might not be the solution we thought it that it might be.

RICHLIST DEVELOPER governance you mean? bwaa pfft ===>  BITTREX PHISHING TEAM OWNS THIS DECRED UP AND DOWN & SIDEWAYS.

[boomboom]

Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.

[gembitz]

Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.

you are delusional the "airdrop" was a bittrex insider phishing scam    you new here?

[Wind_FURY]

Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.

Blockchain governance's "brilliance" is not yet proven in my opinion. Give an angry, and motivated minority enough reasons, and they will fork, and the chain will split.

[IncludeBeer]

Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.

Blockchain governance's "brilliance" is not yet proven in my opinion. Give an angry, and motivated minority enough reasons, and they will fork, and the chain will split.

That's another great feature Decred was designed against. It's very expensive for a minority to maintain a working fork of Decred. The protocol just doesn't allow for it like, e.g., Bitcoin does.
...that's not to say a motivated minority couldn't just go and copy pasta the github repo and release their "fork" that way: but there are different implications for that kind of deployment.

[sv.alyona]

Decred attends the Blockhead Capital conference in Los Angeles, where recently released Privacy was shown to the public
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPPMwr9TU8

[Praxis]

If any of you folks want to help with some grassroots outreach, do send me a direct message here.
It won't take a lot of energy from you, so don't worry. If you wanna do a little bit to help spread awareness of DCR, let me know.
We need to hurry up before the next bull run, by then it might be too late.

[bspus]

Wouldn't it help to know what kind of help is needed? Like, what kind of actions would it require?

[KawaBunGa]

Decred attends the Blockhead Capital conference in Los Angeles, where recently released Privacy was shown to the public
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPPMwr9TU8

Good video, thanx 4 sharing. That's great that almost everybody in the audience had Decred, so Jake didn't have to start with lots of basic stuff. I loved it when he said that other cryptocurrencies are made to solve particular issues but with Decred, they're trying to change the game itself (sounds badass, right? ) and they're more focused on the bigger picture than any short-term results. I think that's the right philosophy to build a really solid project.

[EmilioMann]

Decred - Canon

A collection of readings and resources to help people familiarize themselves with the Decred Project

https://github.com/maxbron08/Decred-Canon

[Wind_FURY]

Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.

Blockchain governance's "brilliance" is not yet proven in my opinion. Give an angry, and motivated minority enough reasons, and they will fork, and the chain will split.

That's another great feature Decred was designed against. It's very expensive for a minority to maintain a working fork of Decred. The protocol just doesn't allow for it like, e.g., Bitcoin does.
...that's not to say a motivated minority couldn't just go and copy pasta the github repo and release their "fork" that way: but there are different implications for that kind of deployment.

Don't you understand? NOTHING might stop a minority from forking of, and cause a split in the chain if they disagree with what's changed in the protocol. Changes in the protocol that can ever never be removed anymore.

What until Decred gets its own scaling debate.

[jwinterm]

[IncludeBeer]

Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.

Blockchain governance's "brilliance" is not yet proven in my opinion. Give an angry, and motivated minority enough reasons, and they will fork, and the chain will split.

That's another great feature Decred was designed against. It's very expensive for a minority to maintain a working fork of Decred. The protocol just doesn't allow for it like, e.g., Bitcoin does.
...that's not to say a motivated minority couldn't just go and copy pasta the github repo and release their "fork" that way: but there are different implications for that kind of deployment.

Don't you understand? NOTHING might stop a minority from forking of, and cause a split in the chain if they disagree with what's changed in the protocol. Changes in the protocol that can ever never be removed anymore.

What until Decred gets its own scaling debate.

I didn't say "NOTHING". Absolutely some minority can go and fork and launch. What is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY is that any minority has the resources to maintain an ongoing, contentious fork (because of the way consensus is reached in Decred, with PoS/PoV miners). Maybe that frames up the correct scenario?

There was a nice article some time ago that delve into the numbers of maintaining a contentious fork alongside the "real" fork in Decred. It was enlightening. If I find it, I'll post it

[EmilioMann]

Wind_Fury, You're wrong.
Decred can have its code copied and pasted to create another coin, which is considered a fork, but the blockchain with decred's history cannot be split into two like ETH / ETC, bitcoincash, etc.
It is unfeasible  to do that.
I suggest you go to matrix and talk to a dev about it.
https://decred.org/community/

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Jake Yocom-Piatt, decred creator, on BlockTV today
"Resolving Corporate Governance In Cryptocurrency"

https://blocktv.com/watch/2019-10-30/5db9ab4487a7e-resolving-corporate-governance-in-cryptocurrency

[jwinterm]

Wind_Fury, You're wrong.
Decred can have its code copied and pasted to create another coin, which is considered a fork, but the blockchain with decred's history cannot be split into two like ETH / ETC, bitcoincash, etc.
It is unfeasible  to do that.
I suggest you go to matrix and talk to a dev about it.
https://decred.org/community/

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Jake Yocom-Piatt, decred creator, on BlockTV today
"Resolving Corporate Governance In Cryptocurrency"

https://blocktv.com/watch/2019-10-30/5db9ab4487a7e-resolving-corporate-governance-in-cryptocurrency

Preventing forks from breaking away with a shared tx history prior to some block is impossible. If you're going to hardfork away from decred, then you can do anything you want to maintain the tx history. For instance, at block X empty the ticket pool, reset ticket price to 1 dcr, reset PoW diff and change algo, if necessary modify other checks to allow ticket pool to be emptied, etc. It's ludicrous to pretend that no one could hard fork decred and start a split chain with a shared tx history prior to some block. Would it be more of a pita than doing the same thing to Bitcoin? Sure. Would it be impossible? Controller nuclear fusion isn't impossible, this sure as shit isn't impossible.

[EmilioMann]

I shouldn't even be wasting my time talking to a troll.  
you have always been one here with a speech disguised as constructive criticism.
you proved again to be a troll when calling gembitz when he was taking too long to reappear here
But anyway, my first language is Brazilian Portuguese, in it we have a word for "almost impossible", for something that doesn't pay to be done. This word is "inviável".
Unfortunately I found nothing similar in English and i thought that "unfeasible" could replace it.