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March 10, 2020, 08:26:14 AM
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Fork ~ clone and they will end with no interests from community, investors, zero value.
But blockcain networks are made up of people, if there's a motivation to fork, it will be valuable for those people.

We laughed at Bitcoin Cash, but it's still fighting a war of attrition against Bitcoin, still supported by a motivated minority.

Clone coins ad clone ones no matter their developers refuse that fact or admit it. What you said is right but I believe you forgot one important thing of clone coin. Fundamentally, clone coins don't have any new technical specifications (modified or improved from original coins). They simply are cloned and renamed before running marketting to attract investors.

Fork coins, on the other hand, have some technical improvements from original coins. Such fork coins can get attraction from investors and community (or can not) but they are truly fork coins.


I'm not talking about the Github repository copied, and a new blockchain boot-strapped, with a new Genesis Block. I'm debating/hypothesizing about an actual fork of Decred, with true/loyal support by a determined minority.

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March 12, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
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Decred Journal February 2020

https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-february-2020-8ff1eac92305


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March 14, 2020, 09:23:03 AM
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The Decred Drive (March 12), which is released every week on Thursdays, last week turned out to be very hot due to the coronavirus epidemic
https://medium.com/@decreddrive/the-decred-drive-mar-12-c8638c131b2e

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March 23, 2020, 10:43:37 PM
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Are you saying that Decred's governance model is Plutocratic?

I would call this model - Decentralized Feudalism
(But as well I would apply this model to many other cryptocurrencies, as I like the saying that we are now entering New Middle Ages)

One of the features of Decred is its governance system - Politeia
But only big holders can vote, as ticket price is over $2000 last time I counted DCR rate, may be now little bit less.
And this amount I consider "big" as per personal investment in crypto (of course it's nothing for early adopters or institutions)

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April 16, 2020, 02:16:43 PM
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I would call this model - Decentralized Feudalism

That's a hilarious but wild comparison.  There are specifics about feudalism that don't apply to crypto even metaphorically.
The less hyperbolic analogy would be shareholder corporate governance... the more shares you have, the more skin-in-the-game, the more the decisions affect you so naturally your voice weights more.
In your model, cryptos are progressing towards democracy, but I would disagree; democracy is not the culmination of the governance evolution.  I'm more with Plato here who considered democracy a degeneration.
Democracy is what got us into this mess in the first place (brrrrrrrrrrr); the most oppressed minority in the world is the individual, and it's oppressed by the whims of those who represent the majority.
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That's a hilarious but wild comparison.  There are specifics about feudalism that don't apply to crypto even metaphorically.
The less hyperbolic analogy would be shareholder corporate governance... the more shares you have, the more skin-in-the-game, the more the decisions affect you so naturally your voice weights more.
In your model, cryptos are progressing towards democracy, but I would disagree; democracy is not the culmination of the governance evolution.  I'm more with Plato here who considered democracy a degeneration.
Democracy is what got us into this mess in the first place (brrrrrrrrrrr); the most oppressed minority in the world is the individual, and it's oppressed by the whims of those who represent the majority.

No, in my model cryptos are not progressing towards democracy, but are progressing towards the neo-feudalism.
We can observe the tendency that the rich are becoming richer and the poor remain poor. The nowadays crisis might slow down these tendencies (like big wars in the past caused shift in power and less economic inequalities), but I think they will remain. I agree with you, Plato and Aristotle on democracy, that's why I don't want to repeat stupid phrases that "we need to increase taxes", "we need to help the unbanked", etc. etc.

Some day I plan to evolve more in writing on this subject. In a way, this progress might be cruel especially for some categories (the latest Black swan already harmed many people, and along with future conflicts and technological advances such as robotization and AI more people will lose jobs, etc.) but what's positive is that the rise of crypto might bring more interesting people to power and to important positions ("social lift")

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April 18, 2020, 04:50:39 AM
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Hi, everybody! I've recently upgraded Decredition to 1.5.1, and now every time I launch it I get this kind of error



I have to restart the app at least a couple of times before I can actually open my wallet. Has anybody encountered the same problem? I'd like to know how to solve it, it's a bit irritating.
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April 18, 2020, 04:58:57 AM
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1.51 is working perfectly for me, where 1.4 wouldn't sync.

   have you checked your firewall?

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April 18, 2020, 05:33:36 AM
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1.51 is working perfectly for me, where 1.4 wouldn't sync.

   have you checked your firewall?

Yeah, everything is fine. It's all started after I updated Decredition, nothing else changed.
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April 18, 2020, 06:53:22 AM
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 sometimes a version change will require a new entry in the blockade   Wink

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April 19, 2020, 10:06:05 AM
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Hi, everybody! I've recently upgraded Decredition to 1.5.1, and now every time I launch it I get this kind of error



I have to restart the app at least a couple of times before I can actually open my wallet. Has anybody encountered the same problem? I'd like to know how to solve it, it's a bit irritating.

Having this problem in the last few versions of the wallet. Asked in discord chat and got a reply that my hardware might be corrupted.

So every time I am opening a wallet (once a month to buy a ticket) I delete blocks_ffldb folder
C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Dcrd\data

And the wallet downloads the whole blockchain again and opens it. Kind of annoying but as I don't open my wallet often I can live with it.

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April 20, 2020, 03:54:03 AM
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Hi, everybody! I've recently upgraded Decredition to 1.5.1, and now every time I launch it I get this kind of error



I have to restart the app at least a couple of times before I can actually open my wallet. Has anybody encountered the same problem? I'd like to know how to solve it, it's a bit irritating.

Having this problem in the last few versions of the wallet. Asked in discord chat and got a reply that my hardware might be corrupted.

So every time I am opening a wallet (once a month to buy a ticket) I delete blocks_ffldb folder
C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Dcrd\data

And the wallet downloads the whole blockchain again and opens it. Kind of annoying but as I don't open my wallet often I can live with it.



Thanks for sharing, but I'd rather restart Decredition a couple of times, would be much faster anyway. Just realised that I don't have that much of a problem after all  Cheesy
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April 20, 2020, 04:42:55 PM
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Hi, everybody! I've recently upgraded Decredition to 1.5.1, and now every time I launch it I get this kind of error



I have to restart the app at least a couple of times before I can actually open my wallet. Has anybody encountered the same problem? I'd like to know how to solve it, it's a bit irritating.

Having this problem in the last few versions of the wallet. Asked in discord chat and got a reply that my hardware might be corrupted.

So every time I am opening a wallet (once a month to buy a ticket) I delete blocks_ffldb folder
C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Dcrd\data

And the wallet downloads the whole blockchain again and opens it. Kind of annoying but as I don't open my wallet often I can live with it.



Thanks for sharing, but I'd rather restart Decredition a couple of times, would be much faster anyway. Just realised that I don't have that much of a problem after all  Cheesy

Hahhah, yeah. I tried your solution already but it doesn't work for me. Gave up after 10 restarts
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Last edit: June 06, 2020, 02:14:33 AM by EmilioMann
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Tomorrow 05/02, the first bitconf Live Edition will be held.
Brazilian cryptocurrency event in which Decred will be sponsor.

Starts at 04:00 PM UTC
Register for free at www.bitconf.com.br

We will have 2 talks by BR members of our community.

At 4:00 PM UTC Edilson Osorio Jr, creator and CEO of www.originalmy.com will speak about "Blockchain and the impact during the Pandemic". It will also show a new app that uses Decred's blockchain so that doctors can prescribe controlled drugs through their mobiles, without physical contact with the patient.

At 8:00 PM UTC João "Girino" Ferreira will talk about "Decentralization and Governance". Also about DEX, atomic swaps and politeia.





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Edilson Osorio Jr talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjQcT_nMXBs
João "girino" Ferreira talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Fq9VNOhlk
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May 11, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
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How is the development coming along?
The thread is silent and I only see one commit in github since the current release from last year

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How is the development coming along?
The thread is silent and I only see one commit in github since the current release from last year



https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-april-2020-8ddca048dc67





March: https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-march-2020-46a3df734ec5
February: https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-february-2020-8ff1eac92305
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May 12, 2020, 04:53:50 AM
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Thank you
Apparently it's just this thread that is abandoned. I wish it weren't the case but it seems this forum is getting irrelevant as time goes by.

I'd still advise you make the discord channel more visible and keep linking the journal updates here

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May 12, 2020, 06:11:24 AM
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Since 2018, there has been a persistent loss of membership, and I am curious about what to do.
And it seems to be related to price.
We look forward to the Foundation's efforts in the future.
Thank you.
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Np
The devs don't like bitcointalk and they also left slack because old messages are automatically deleted in a short time.

The chosen app for chat was matrix

click on “advanced” to register in decred matrix https://chat.decred.org/#/register

For other Decred communities see https://decred.org/community/
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May 12, 2020, 07:26:33 AM
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It's 10 hours (1330 EST) until Decred's Foundations hour at ConsensusDistributed kicks off!

Sign up at this link to watch the program live and participate in Q&A.

https://next.brella.io/events/consensusdistributed/schedule/118434

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