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November 03, 2019, 06:27:57 PM
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Could you explain a little more or provide any source for more information?
No, because there was no phishing or scam. Gembitz is just mad he missed it. All you needed to sign up for the airdrop was a social media account with some significant posting history...

Now I am surprised and literally don't understand why such an obvious FUD from Gembitz?

@Gembitz can you please explain what you mean with: "the "airdrop" was a bittrex insider phishing scam"?

I would like to hear both sides of the story before drawing final conclusions, such an ordinary human caution, forced by my experience  Wink.

Of course, thank you Jwinterm for fast answers and explanation. I would like to hear more details about this airdrop, like how long it was ongoing, who can participate, how much coins were distributed, when was the start and the end, and so on. That is why I asked for a source of information because I wanted to know more details.



lol ya, jw got it right. There's no story or reasoning from his side. He's just a troll. It's sad when noobies can become swayed by his bs.

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Now I am surprised and literally don't understand why such an obvious FUD from Gembitz?

@Gembitz can you please explain what you mean with: "the "airdrop" was a bittrex insider phishing scam"?

I would like to hear both sides of the story before drawing final conclusions, such an ordinary human caution, forced by my experience  Wink.

Of course, thank you Jwinterm for fast answers and explanation. I would like to hear more details about this airdrop, like how long it was ongoing, who can participate, how much coins were distributed, when was the start and the end, and so on. That is why I asked for a source of information because I wanted to know more details.


I think decred's airdrop was the first or at least one of the first to be performed in the crypto universe.
It attracted many members who are still in the community today.
Many people said that as soon as the currency entered an exchange, the airdrop would be dumped by everyone and DCR would "die."
The opposite happened. Few sold, hype attracted a lot of people and decred was born with a strong community.
After that a large number of shitcoins created airdrops thinking the same thing would happen, but decred was unique.
DCR already had strong foundations even before it was launched. The dev team, btcsuite, roadmap, the "presence" of tacotime, etc.
The number of people involved seems little compared to what we see today, after the 2017's big run that brought millions of people into the crypto market, but at that time having almost 3,000 people participating in a currency before it was launched was a great number.
 



Some info from decred docs (https://docs.decred.org/):

Airdrop
In total, 840,000 coins (50% of premine, 4% of total Decred supply), were distributed evenly across a list of airdrop participants.

Sign-up for the airdrop opened with a public announcement on December 15th, 2015 and closed on January 18th, 2016. Not all participants who signed up were selected to participate in the airdrop - Decred is fundamentally about technological progress, so the airdrop targeted individuals that have made contributions towards advancing technology in its various forms. There were also a large number of fraudulent sign-ups, which were carefully identified and dealt with.

When the airdrop concluded, 282.63795424 DCR was awarded to 2,972 participants.

Giving away these coins in an airdrop accomplished several things for the project: enlarging the Decred network, further helping to decentralize the distribution of coins, and getting coins into the hands of people who are interested in participating in the project. These coins were given away unconditionally and there was zero expectation of Decred receiving anything from the participants in return for these coins.

Airdrop Application and Review Process
Step 1: Registration
Individuals could register their interest in participating in the airdrop by completing an online form which opened on December 15th, 2015 and closed on January 18th, 2016. The form required applicants to provide an email address, a link to an online personal profile, and a description of why the participant was interested in Decred or how they intended to contribute to the project. This form was submitted 8,793 times, with submissions coming from 99 different countries.

The applications included duplicates, spam and scammers. The applications were reviewed and problematic entries were disqualified from the process. The process of evaluation involved a combination of:

Checking each entry individually for an online presence
Asking the participant directly for more information where the evaluator was unsure about the entry, and/or
Having a discussion with the participant about their interests, history, and proposed future contributions to the project
Checks were also included to investigate similarity in IP addresses and e-mail addresses across entries - this process was performed both manually and using automation.

Step 2: Confirm Decred Address
Successful applicants from step 1 were sent an email providing instructions on how to download Decred binaries, generate an address, and submit the address through a web form to be included in the airdrop. Address submission closed on January 25th, and in total 3,244 addresses were submitted to the airdrop database.

Once all of the addresses were received, a final inspection was performed on the data provided by each candidate airdrop participant. This final and intensive review process worked as follows:

The sign-up information of each participant was compared with their confirmation information - not only for each user, but also for each user against all other users.
The process involved comparison of IP addresses, timestamps, and user agents at both the airdrop sign-up phase and the confirmation phase.
After the final review was completed, 2,972 addresses were included in the airdrop.


Airdrop Status Updates
06-Jan-2016 - Airdrop Status https://forum.decred.org/threads/airdrop-status.121/
16-Jan-2016 - Airdrop Conclusion and Road Ahead https://forum.decred.org/threads/airdrop-conclusion-and-road-ahead.217/
25-Jan-2016 - Airdrop Rundown https://forum.decred.org/threads/airdrop-rundown.313/
09-Feb-2016 - Final Airdrop Review Process https://forum.decred.org/threads/final-airdrop-review-process.534/
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November 04, 2019, 04:23:54 AM
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Clam was probably the first relatively large scale successful airdrop, maybe not the first, but way before decred. There was if course the infamous auroracoin airdrop that never happened, afaik, but also 2014ish. Stellar Facebook giveaway shitshow also around then. It wasn't really an original idea by the time decred did it, but it seems like they did a pretty good job vetting people and still achieving relatively widespread distribution.
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November 04, 2019, 09:22:58 AM
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I think decred's airdrop was the first or at least one of the first to be performed in the crypto universe.
It attracted many members who are still in the community today.
Many people said that as soon as the currency entered an exchange, the airdrop would be dumped by everyone and DCR would "die."
The opposite happened. Few sold, hype attracted a lot of people and decred was born with a strong community.
After that a large number of shitcoins created airdrops thinking the same thing would happen, but decred was unique...

Thank you very much for this answer with all the detailed pieces of information about Decred airdrop.

Exactly what I was asking for and of course awarded this post with merit to show my appreciation and how valuable it was for me.

I don't see anything suspicious here, even more, that was really decent airdrop with clear requirements, so really don't understand all these FUD above?

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November 05, 2019, 03:12:38 AM
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I think decred's airdrop was the first or at least one of the first to be performed in the crypto universe.
It attracted many members who are still in the community today.
Many people said that as soon as the currency entered an exchange, the airdrop would be dumped by everyone and DCR would "die."
The opposite happened. Few sold, hype attracted a lot of people and decred was born with a strong community.
After that a large number of shitcoins created airdrops thinking the same thing would happen, but decred was unique...

Thank you very much for this answer with all the detailed pieces of information about Decred airdrop.

Exactly what I was asking for and of course awarded this post with merit to show my appreciation and how valuable it was for me.

I don't see anything suspicious here, even more, that was really decent airdrop with clear requirements, so really don't understand all these FUD above?


Like he said, gembitz is our resident troll. Plz don't over-feed him Cheesy

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November 05, 2019, 08:43:57 AM
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Like he said, gembitz is our resident troll. Plz don't over-feed him Cheesy

I will advise reporting all posts which are obvious FUD like this one about the airdrop and moderators will remove it, only add a proper description to let them know what is going on.

I am in the [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers for more than a year. for a long time and reported already almost 3000 posts with 100% accuracy.
Many times I have reposted posts which were total bullshit, nonsense, lie or FUD. As I said not only spam gets removed.

And you don't need such posts in this thread because it only brings confusion and put Decred in a bad light, despite is not true.
This is the real power of FUD, no matter if it is true, the only thing that matter is to throw mud and spread false accusations and bad advertising, which obviously is the case here.

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November 05, 2019, 11:37:55 PM
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...and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters...
you are delusional the "airdrop" was a bittrex insider phishing scam  Tongue Roll Eyes Angry  you new here?

I was wondering also what he is talking about, only I was surprised to hear about Decred airdrop for the first time.

Never posted much in this thread but I frequently checked Decred and wasn't aware that there was an airdrop at all and now I hear that was "bittrex insider phishing scam"  Huh

Could you explain a little more or provide any source for more information?

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Could you explain a little more or provide any source for more information?
No, because there was no phishing or scam. Gembitz is just mad he missed it. All you needed to sign up for the airdrop was a social media account with some significant posting history...

Now I am surprised and literally don't understand why such an obvious FUD from Gembitz?

@Gembitz can you please explain what you mean with: "the "airdrop" was a bittrex insider phishing scam"?

I would like to hear both sides of the story before drawing final conclusions, such an ordinary human caution, forced by my experience  Wink.

Of course, thank you Jwinterm for fast answers and explanation. I would like to hear more details about this airdrop, like how long it was ongoing, who can participate, how much coins were distributed, when was the start and the end, and so on. That is why I asked for a source of information because I wanted to know more details.



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LOL now I understood why this troll speaks a lot about decred and bittrex Cheesy
Just clarifying that jy-p (Jake Yocom Piatt) from Decred and jyap (Julian) from bittrex are not the same person
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...I LOST A LOT OF BITCOIN BECAUSE I STOOD UP TO THESE...

Sorry, but your explanation tells me nothing and you provided no examples or anything else to prove your words.

Additionally, this statement

...jy-p (Jake Yocom Piatt) from Decred and jyap (Julian) from bittrex are not the same person

undermines the credibility of your claim, because it is not the same person.

Gambit, of course, I am sorry for your loss, but to blame them with no proofs is just FUD because so far I haven't seen any evidence that this airdrop was as you claim "FRAUDULENT".

Even more Decred supporters presented evidence that everything was fine, you quoted it yourself, so tell me who would you believe in my place?

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...jy-p (Jake Yocom Piatt) from Decred and jyap (Julian) from bittrex are not the same person

undermines the credibility of your claim, because it is not really known if it indeed is the same person.



 Cheesy They are known people

This is jy-p aka Jake Yocom-Piatt from decred





And this is jyap aka Julian from bittrex

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... Cheesy They are known people...

Thanks for this explanation, I already edited my post above to not confuse anybody.

To be honest, I never heard about them, exactly as about this Decred airdrop we have discussed above, so again I have expanded my knowledge about cryptocurrencies  Cheesy.

Sometimes even FUD brings something positive in the end  Wink.

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Hey, @Wind_FURY, looks like our shilling worked and somebody decided to buy lots of cheap Decred for staking Cheesy


 
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 Jake Yocom-Piatt interviewed by Ryan Selkis from Messari Crypto


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Decred dev funding and governance mechanism are brilliant features, and the airdrop bootstrapped a community of enthusiastic supporters, and staking via tickets system keeps a lot of coins locked up earning income for holders. The whole decred design is very well thought out, that's why guys who messed up the airdrop are still upset.


Blockchain governance's "brilliance" is not yet proven in my opinion. Give an angry, and motivated minority enough reasons, and they will fork, and the chain will split.

That's another great feature Decred was designed against. It's very expensive for a minority to maintain a working fork of Decred. The protocol just doesn't allow for it like, e.g., Bitcoin does.
...that's not to say a motivated minority couldn't just go and copy pasta the github repo and release their "fork" that way: but there are different implications for that kind of deployment.

Don't you understand? NOTHING might stop a minority from forking of, and cause a split in the chain if they disagree with what's changed in the protocol. Changes in the protocol that can ever never be removed anymore.

What until Decred gets its own scaling debate.

I didn't say "NOTHING". Cheesy Absolutely some minority can go and fork and launch. What is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY is that any minority has the resources to maintain an ongoing, contentious fork (because of the way consensus is reached in Decred, with PoS/PoV miners). Maybe that frames up the correct scenario?

There was a nice article some time ago that delve into the numbers of maintaining a contentious fork alongside the "real" fork in Decred. It was enlightening. If I find it, I'll post it Cheesy


Then is blockchain governance pointless? That was the question.

Yes, I would like to read it, thanks.

Hey, @Wind_FURY, looks like our shilling worked and somebody decided to buy lots of cheap Decred for staking Cheesy




Haha. I was not shilling. Staking is/was cheaper. Cool


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November 08, 2019, 07:33:58 AM
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Hey, @Wind_FURY, looks like our shilling worked and somebody decided to buy lots of cheap Decred for staking Cheesy




Haha. I was not shilling. Staking is/was cheaper. Cool

Yeah, I know, I was just kidding Grin But some ppl indeed chose the right time to buy more Decred. I hope it hit rock bottom a couple of weeks ago and we're not gonna see those prices again.

 
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November 08, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
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Hey, @Wind_FURY, looks like our shilling worked and somebody decided to buy lots of cheap Decred for staking Cheesy




Haha. I was not shilling. Staking is/was cheaper. Cool

Yeah, I know, I was just kidding Grin But some ppl indeed chose the right time to buy more Decred. I hope it hit rock bottom a couple of weeks ago and we're not gonna see those prices again.


Only the market can decide if people chose the right time. We can only buy the dip, and do dollar-cost-averaging if it dips futher than expected. Cool


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November 08, 2019, 12:27:17 PM
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Hey, @Wind_FURY, looks like our shilling worked and somebody decided to buy lots of cheap Decred for staking Cheesy




Haha. I was not shilling. Staking is/was cheaper. Cool

Yeah, I know, I was just kidding Grin But some ppl indeed chose the right time to buy more Decred. I hope it hit rock bottom a couple of weeks ago and we're not gonna see those prices again.


Only the market can decide if people chose the right time. We can only buy the dip, and do dollar-cost-averaging if it dips futher than expected. Cool

Sure, that was only my opinion, I should've added something like "IMHO" at the end of that sentence

 
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v1.5.0 first release candidate is out!

If you like to live on the edge and want to try out the latest goodies from Decred v1.5-RC1 look no further! 

Be sure to let us know if you find any issues as we gear up towards a final release.

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