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Today at 08:02:02 AM
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It is a shame to observe some of the blatant entropy spewed to hinder others out of greed.

Thank you to Alberto, NoMachine, and many others who have contributed so much to these endeavors. I have learned a great deal from many of you who so willingly shared your code, time and very essence while working on this puzzle.

I have also been afflicted with the obsession of plinking away at the code, tearing it apart at the bit in hopes to glimpse the true clockwork beneath. I can see the draw which has held many of you here for so long observing.

Imagine my own anger with myself after finding out #66 has been solved and going back over the many terrabytes of code I have horded, scrapped and reconstructed across this thread well into a third restart. My hypothesis had placed me within 2**61 or less of the key. An going back over my bat files and clutters external drives stuffed to the brim with my attempts.

I had calculated 2628a3ad7d90cd20f to 2728ad7d90cd20f. I had sitting in a bat file created and last ran 5/13/2024.


I agree with many and none of the findings here.

Perhaps it is part of my unique approach... preferring to bash myself upon the rocks while learning to swim after leaping into the sea that these puzzles represent. While thrashing away in my inadequate mind at this, and many other puzzles. I have discovered a few things. Alberto has probably also and is why he is still here to observe. I will with-hold my many hypotheses and the likes as I am a woefully ignorant newcomer, but I am observant.

While there is no pattern as the author clearly stated, he did have a system in which he used to generate the keys, and how clever and simple it was hidden is plain sight. I almost missed it myself, but kept rounding back to it.

There is no pattern, but all beings are creatures of habit. Don't waste your time on seeking the pattern. It is pointless at this size of key space. Leverage your ingenuity, cunning and logic. Stop blind skips into the key space, look for habit, not pattern. #66 broke many of the rules the author seemed to have kept to, no repeating characters greater than two. No repeated string lengths. The vast keyspace size now protects the prizes, not some cleverly constructed riddle or system to solve.

I am here to offer what the author secretly wished to set about and construct with his double puzzle. This puzzle is not just about cracking the entropy. It is about cracking the human condition, there are keen minds here and the blockchain is power.

Smart-contracts written and publicly audited could govern the key space search server, so blind trust is removed. True equality could be possible. I reference Alberto mostly because he has the most work along with WanderingPhilosopher, there are most likely others I miss, and forgive my ignorance.

Understand those people gave openly and freely shared with all so everyone was given equal chance.

Thank you, to those who gave openly because they understood this concept so well.

To those dreaming, I say dream, but understand. You must give before others learn to give also. It one of the strangest paradoxes. No one will share until you decide to teach them how to share.

If you all would stop searching in single castles with vaults empty waiting for the prize while dreaming, this puzzle would crumble in a few months under true collaboration.

Truly come together and work as a team. I see several small groups within these pages, islands of brilliant minds drawn to one another.

But, what do I know. I am just some old man to the party.  A SimpleMind.

Greetings to Everyone here. I hope to add my small contribution and knowledge to these pages, I am ExiledDatum.
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Today at 08:27:01 AM
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If (someone solves Puzzle 130) -> (they have extreme computational resources).
Not (anyone has extreme computational resources).
Therefore, Not (anyone solved Puzzle 130) -> it may have been manipulated.

If someone solved Puzzle 130, then holy molly, they’ve got a supercomputer the size of a small moon! But wait — no one’s got one of those lying around (unless NASA’s hiding something). So, if no one solved Puzzle 130, holy molly, something fishy’s going on — maybe the puzzle fairies had a little too much coffee and fancy lunches in Dubai!  Grin


Greetings to Everyone here. I hope to add my small contribution and knowledge to these pages, I am ExiledDatum.

Welcome, ExiledDatum! We're glad to have you here.  Wink

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Today at 08:50:59 AM
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I have more and more doubts that some geniuses are solving the puzzle. In my opinion, starting from the 120bit solution, the creator does all this. To keep the interest in his mystery alive. If you compare the sequence of events (dates of decisions, increase in the prize), then everything adds up to a logical picture. Now it is more profitable to use computing power for the inference of neural networks, for their training, rather than for searching for a needle in a haystack with an unknown result. And here you need very large computing power, which will cost a lot to rent.

Honestly, I don't think it was the creator who withdrew the funds. Someone who over the years didn't stop the challenge despite having the private keys - he could have withdrawn them with multi-million profits, and instead deposited dozens of BTC to each address shows that the creator is a person who sleeps on cash and is like oxygen to him - obviously he is and that he will never take it away. So I don't think that someone stopped achieving the ultimate goal of creating this challenge by fawning over change... especially since finding 120,125,130 does not bring anything positive in the perspective of the entire challenge... especially since we don't know of any solutions that he could skillfully announce while making progress towards achieving the goal.
I think the finder is someone who reads us here, but does not share the results or methods of action, because so far she has successfully gained $2 million on it using her excellent method of breaking subsequent thresholds. In other words - for safety's sake she is silent, because she simply -> plans to top up those $2 million with subsequent levels. If we live to see #160, there is a chance that we will learn the solutions.

That's what I thought at first, too. However, it is extremely doubtful that there is any "hidden mathematical genius" in the world.  He would have received more money and recognition if he had made his discoveries public.  I also think it is extremely stupid to use large computing resources to solve the puzzle, when they can be rented out for inference or neural network training and guaranteed to make a profit.
So the version of a great mathematician who solves puzzles in some new way on a single video card is questionable as well as the version of a businessman who prefers to play the lottery instead of a stable business. Then it remains a logical option that the creator of the puzzle (perhaps it is not one person, but an organization) stimulates the "bait" ("look, someone found the key, so it's possible!") to work on testing the security of bitcoin.
There is another option - a quantum computer and Shor's algorithm are used, then it is definitely some organization testing its power.

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Today at 08:52:24 AM
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If someone solved Puzzle 130, then holy molly, they’ve got a supercomputer the size of a small moon! But wait — no one’s got one of those lying around (unless NASA’s hiding something). So, if no one solved Puzzle 130, holy molly, something fishy’s going on — maybe the puzzle fairies had a little too much coffee and fancy lunches in Dubai!  Grin

Come on, let's get real. I myself computed that if I had 150k $ lying around I would have solved 130 in less than 90 days. Simple crude math - divide total ops by number of op/s, again by ops/GPU/s, multiply with price/h.

So no supercomputer required here, just $ to pay for the most optimized piece of software to run, to minimize costs.

But now 135 requires 5 times more money to solve, or for GPU prices to go down, or for performance per $ to go up, which WILL happen. What I do not understand, is what the deal is with the 3Emi script address, is it a group, is it some sort of smart contract, why was it not spent already, etc.
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Today at 09:12:53 AM
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There is another option - a quantum computer and Shor's algorithm are used, then it is definitely some organization testing its power.


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Today at 09:31:05 AM
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import os
import random

Target_Puzzle_No = 135
unde-Target_Puzzle_No = 100
k = 0

while True:         
    low  = 2**(Target_Puzzle_No-1)
    high = -1 + 2**(Target_Puzzle_No)
    beween = 2**100
   
    startnumber = random.randrange(low,high)
    check = (startnumber+beween)   
    if startnumber > high :
        break

    st = hex(startnumber)[2:]
    en = hex(check)[2:]
    print (st,file=open("67-checklis.txt", "a"))
    print (st)
    os.system("timeout 20m ./vs-kangaroo-multi -v 1 -gpu -g 128,128 -bits " + st + ":" + en + " 02145d2611c823a396ef6712ce0f712f09b9b4f3135e3e0aa3230fb9b6d08d1e16 ")
    k += 89
# set public key in os command
# set os command as per your kangaroo

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Last edit: Today at 10:33:37 AM by ExiledDatum
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I have more and more doubts that some geniuses are solving the puzzle. In my opinion, starting from the 120bit solution, the creator does all this. To keep the interest in his mystery alive. If you compare the sequence of events (dates of decisions, increase in the prize), then everything adds up to a logical picture. Now it is more profitable to use computing power for the inference of neural networks, for their training, rather than for searching for a needle in a haystack with an unknown result. And here you need very large computing power, which will cost a lot to rent.

Honestly, I don't think it was the creator who withdrew the funds. Someone who over the years didn't stop the challenge despite having the private keys - he could have withdrawn them with multi-million profits, and instead deposited dozens of BTC to each address shows that the creator is a person who sleeps on cash and is like oxygen to him - obviously he is and that he will never take it away. So I don't think that someone stopped achieving the ultimate goal of creating this challenge by fawning over change... especially since finding 120,125,130 does not bring anything positive in the perspective of the entire challenge... especially since we don't know of any solutions that he could skillfully announce while making progress towards achieving the goal.
I think the finder is someone who reads us here, but does not share the results or methods of action, because so far she has successfully gained $2 million on it using her excellent method of breaking subsequent thresholds. In other words - for safety's sake she is silent, because she simply -> plans to top up those $2 million with subsequent levels. If we live to see #160, there is a chance that we will learn the solutions.

That's what I thought at first, too. However, it is extremely doubtful that there is any "hidden mathematical genius" in the world.  He would have received more money and recognition if he had made his discoveries public.  I also think it is extremely stupid to use large computing resources to solve the puzzle, when they can be rented out for inference or neural network training and guaranteed to make a profit.
So the version of a great mathematician who solves puzzles in some new way on a single video card is questionable as well as the version of a businessman who prefers to play the lottery instead of a stable business. Then it remains a logical option that the creator of the puzzle (perhaps it is not one person, but an organization) stimulates the "bait" ("look, someone found the key, so it's possible!") to work on testing the security of bitcoin.
There is another option - a quantum computer and Shor's algorithm are used, then it is definitely some organization testing its power.



Or someone simply noticed the lid does more than keep the liquid in.

I have made more progress by simply eliminating parts that it could not be, logistical analysis of key space and just some plain hands-on common sense. Real-world problem solving applied to reducing the key space by logical means. All keys with repeating prefixes, all with more than two repeating characters to list some already mentioned before. I am actively seeking puzzle solutions personally.

I have only been working on these puzzles for perhaps a year with direction and structured aim. I can only imagine what stage most of you all are at if far beyond my new presence is stumbling blindly through.

I do work with ML, tinker with special custom models in attempts to bridge the rational logic beyond the simple prediction, transformers or Berts.

Someone with the knowledge and means to code bug free model training and compile datasets upon which to aim these models.... now that, seems more likely as those able and with enough understanding could be leveraging this emerging technology which is gaining ground and establishing a stable foundation anyone dedicating the time can begin doing in some garage setup.

I'm sure after removing all those false positives. The reduced key space hardly takes a "hidden mathematical genius".

Though all my work is done, on a single graphics card on a laptop. I believe any solutions happening at this moment is due to the collimation of over four years of continual persistence and well mapped logic in isolated sectors, in calculated sub-ranges.



Here is the output of one of my experiments, breaking the key space of #66 into some 25 million sub-ranges and sampling addresses after removing parts of the key space by a set of rules, coupled with several other gum-shoe insanity.


Address Range: 19FaJ7mnZ1o2bRdLWNPswW829NZ3KtkUve to 1DJjP7WMvJNZSa1nURTfPMXQP4Pjx4CZVJ
Subrange 167575:
  Decimal Range: 223088402697171072894127398419995557888 to 223089728030944213908759676992704479231
  Hexadecimal Range: 00000000000000000000000000000000a7d54374bc6a7ab8a000000000000000 to 00000000000000000000000000000000a7d584ccccccc88b8fffffffffffffff
  Address Range: 1HPxAfdbeShoNQoLyGrMYjwX8KE3JDTgqP to 196jyzz3omwHiWx7SAUiRfD7DLeEd6dpqN
Subrange 167576:
  Decimal Range: 223089728030944213908759676992704479232 to 223091053364717354923391955565413400575
  Hexadecimal Range: 00000000000000000000000000000000a7d584ccccccc88b9000000000000000 to 00000000000000000000000000000000a7d5c624dd2f165e7fffffffffffffff
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Today at 10:27:35 AM
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Or someone simply noticed the lid does more than keep the liquid in.

I have made more progress by simply eliminating parts that it could not be, logistical analysis of key space and just some plain hands-on common sense. Real-world problem solving applied to reducing the key space by logical means. All keys with repeating prefixes, all with more than two repeating characters to list some already mentioned before. I am actively seeking puzzle solutions personally.

I have only been working on these puzzles for perhaps a year with direction and structured aim. I can only imagine what stage most of you all are at if far beyond my new presence is stumbling blindly through.

I do work with ML, tinker with special custom models in attempts to bridge the rational logic beyond the simple prediction, transformers or Berts.

Someone with the knowledge and means to code bug free model training and compile datasets upon which to aim these models.... now that, seems more likely as those able and with enough understanding could be leveraging this emerging technology which is gaining ground and establishing a stable foundation anyone dedicating the time can begin doing in some garage setup.

I'm sure after removing all those false positives. The reduced key space hardly takes a "hidden mathematical genius".

Though all my work is done, on a single graphics card on a laptop. I believe any solutions happening at this moment is due to the collimation of over four years of continual persistence and well mapped logic in isolated sectors, in calculated sub-ranges.



not true for #110 and #115 Wink

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Today at 10:39:29 AM
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Can some one explain about forks, inside Bitcoin puzzle  how to cash out or convert to bitcoin

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Today at 10:43:19 AM
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Can some one explain about forks, inside Bitcoin puzzle  how to cash out or convert to bitcoin

Usually those forks are worthless but in any case you can make some tens bucks with them. You can use Guarda wallet (web app) to move them to another wallet. And you can use changenow.io to exchange them to bitcoin.

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Today at 11:32:36 AM
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Can some one explain about forks, inside Bitcoin puzzle  how to cash out or convert to bitcoin


Usually those forks are worthless but in any case you can make some tens bucks with them. You can use Guarda wallet (web app) to move them to another wallet. And you can use changenow.io to exchange them to bitcoin.

Thankx for info
I were looking something like strong wallet, where load privkeys and all crypto loads in one click and convert them

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Today at 12:42:32 PM
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Just curious, So is the solver of #120, #125, #130 the same solvers or#130 is a new guy?
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Today at 12:45:37 PM
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Just curious, So is the solver of #120, #125, #130 the same solvers or#130 is a new guy?

nobody knows that except the solver himself and anyone who claims the opposite is lying, icluding me  Cool

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Today at 12:46:39 PM
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Thank you to Alberto, NoMachine, and many others who have contributed so much to these endeavors. I have learned a great deal from many of you who so willingly shared your code, time and very essence while working on this puzzle.

Thank you very much, I also receive your email, it really means a lot to me.

Welcome and have an excellent day.

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