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May 22, 2016, 02:41:27 PM
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I'm looking for the developer of the original hodlminer who designed the caching optimization.

hodlminer performnace on i5 is not very good due to the smaller cache size. hodlminer, both
the original and the Wolf0 version are optimized for the i7 cache. I've tried changing the slice
size but only get rejects. I would like to communicate with the original author to try to tweak the
slice size for better performance with the i5 cache, but I don't know who that is. Anyone?

I do, but there's no point. Simply because I HAVE changed the slice size - you're still fucked. The whole thing needs to be run through AES-256-CBC - obviously if you can fit the whole slice in cache, this gets a lot better.

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May 22, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
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I'm looking for the developer of the original hodlminer who designed the caching optimization.

hodlminer performnace on i5 is not very good due to the smaller cache size. hodlminer, both
the original and the Wolf0 version are optimized for the i7 cache. I've tried changing the slice
size but only get rejects. I would like to communicate with the original author to try to tweak the
slice size for better performance with the i5 cache, but I don't know who that is. Anyone?

I do, but there's no point. Simply because I HAVE changed the slice size - you're still fucked. The whole thing needs to be run through AES-256-CBC - obviously if you can fit the whole slice in cache, this gets a lot better.

Thanks. By fucked do you mean the smaller slice broke it, or did it just not improve it on an i5?

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May 22, 2016, 05:59:52 PM
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I'm looking for the developer of the original hodlminer who designed the caching optimization.

hodlminer performnace on i5 is not very good due to the smaller cache size. hodlminer, both
the original and the Wolf0 version are optimized for the i7 cache. I've tried changing the slice
size but only get rejects. I would like to communicate with the original author to try to tweak the
slice size for better performance with the i5 cache, but I don't know who that is. Anyone?

I do, but there's no point. Simply because I HAVE changed the slice size - you're still fucked. The whole thing needs to be run through AES-256-CBC - obviously if you can fit the whole slice in cache, this gets a lot better.

Thanks. By fucked do you mean the smaller slice broke it, or did it just not improve it on an i5?

I wasn't... er... targeting an i5 when I did it, let's say. My point is... you *technically* can make it smaller, but all you'd be doing is shuffling the shit around - it's still ALL gonna be needed for the AES transformation. And that ENTIRE transformation must be finished before you can do the next iteration of the loop. Because of this, it's always gonna be better if it fits in some kind of faster storage.

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May 22, 2016, 07:02:42 PM
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I'm looking for the developer of the original hodlminer who designed the caching optimization.

hodlminer performnace on i5 is not very good due to the smaller cache size. hodlminer, both
the original and the Wolf0 version are optimized for the i7 cache. I've tried changing the slice
size but only get rejects. I would like to communicate with the original author to try to tweak the
slice size for better performance with the i5 cache, but I don't know who that is. Anyone?

I do, but there's no point. Simply because I HAVE changed the slice size - you're still fucked. The whole thing needs to be run through AES-256-CBC - obviously if you can fit the whole slice in cache, this gets a lot better.

Thanks. By fucked do you mean the smaller slice broke it, or did it just not improve it on an i5?

I wasn't... er... targeting an i5 when I did it, let's say. My point is... you *technically* can make it smaller, but all you'd be doing is shuffling the shit around - it's still ALL gonna be needed for the AES transformation. And that ENTIRE transformation must be finished before you can do the next iteration of the loop. Because of this, it's always gonna be better if it fits in some kind of faster storage.

Agreed but the performance difference between i5 & i7 is significantly greater than the difference in cache size.
Wouldn't a slice size tuned for an i5 perform better on an i5 than a slice sized tuned for an i7?


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May 22, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
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I'm looking for the developer of the original hodlminer who designed the caching optimization.

hodlminer performnace on i5 is not very good due to the smaller cache size. hodlminer, both
the original and the Wolf0 version are optimized for the i7 cache. I've tried changing the slice
size but only get rejects. I would like to communicate with the original author to try to tweak the
slice size for better performance with the i5 cache, but I don't know who that is. Anyone?

I do, but there's no point. Simply because I HAVE changed the slice size - you're still fucked. The whole thing needs to be run through AES-256-CBC - obviously if you can fit the whole slice in cache, this gets a lot better.

Thanks. By fucked do you mean the smaller slice broke it, or did it just not improve it on an i5?

I wasn't... er... targeting an i5 when I did it, let's say. My point is... you *technically* can make it smaller, but all you'd be doing is shuffling the shit around - it's still ALL gonna be needed for the AES transformation. And that ENTIRE transformation must be finished before you can do the next iteration of the loop. Because of this, it's always gonna be better if it fits in some kind of faster storage.

Agreed but the performance difference between i5 & i7 is significantly greater than the difference in cache size.
Wouldn't a slice size tuned for an i5 perform better on an i5 than a slice sized tuned for an i7?



You're not getting it - no matter how you play with it, the same size shit has to be loaded. It's not gonna change a thing - the i5 is likely already packing its cache as best it can.

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May 22, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
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I'm looking for the developer of the original hodlminer who designed the caching optimization.

hodlminer performnace on i5 is not very good due to the smaller cache size. hodlminer, both
the original and the Wolf0 version are optimized for the i7 cache. I've tried changing the slice
size but only get rejects. I would like to communicate with the original author to try to tweak the
slice size for better performance with the i5 cache, but I don't know who that is. Anyone?

I do, but there's no point. Simply because I HAVE changed the slice size - you're still fucked. The whole thing needs to be run through AES-256-CBC - obviously if you can fit the whole slice in cache, this gets a lot better.

Thanks. By fucked do you mean the smaller slice broke it, or did it just not improve it on an i5?

I wasn't... er... targeting an i5 when I did it, let's say. My point is... you *technically* can make it smaller, but all you'd be doing is shuffling the shit around - it's still ALL gonna be needed for the AES transformation. And that ENTIRE transformation must be finished before you can do the next iteration of the loop. Because of this, it's always gonna be better if it fits in some kind of faster storage.

Agreed but the performance difference between i5 & i7 is significantly greater than the difference in cache size.
Wouldn't a slice size tuned for an i5 perform better on an i5 than a slice sized tuned for an i7?



You're not getting it - no matter how you play with it, the same size shit has to be loaded. It's not gonna change a thing - the i5 is likely already packing its cache as best it can.

So you're saying the same applies to the i7 and setting the slice size to match the cache makes no difference. I get that now.

From looking at the code it appeared some cache tweaking was being performed to speed things up. Things like preloading the cache
can help if you have other things to do waiting for the cache to load I've done that kind of stuff in the past and
assumed  something similar was being done with hodlminer. It would have been interesting seeing it done it from c/c++
with the x86 instruction set, neither of which is where my relevent experience lies.


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May 23, 2016, 06:39:57 PM
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Just to ask you. You are voting for HODL,right? http://www.cryptofolio.info/welcome/vote

Hodl is (now) listed on this service.

Thanks for posting a link to this site   Smiley

No problem  Cheesy
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May 24, 2016, 03:39:42 PM
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may be a long shot at this point but here is the poloniex coin request page:

https://poloniex.com/coinRequest


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May 24, 2016, 04:08:02 PM
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may be a long shot at this point but here is the poloniex coin request page:

https://poloniex.com/coinRequest



I hear Poloniex likes to see a website before listing a coin, so I think we'll get that finished first before applying for a Poloniex listing.

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May 24, 2016, 11:55:08 PM
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I beleive HODL used DigitalNote XDN deposits as a source of deposits idea and UI.

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I beleive HODL used DigitalNote XDN deposits as a source of deposits idea and UI.

I'm somewhat sure that is false for the idea, though I cant be 100% sure. FreeTrade asked about existing coins offering deposits a while back after it was clear he was already working on the idea. I identified XDN to him and it didn't seem to me he was already aware of it. I can't comment on the UI.
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May 25, 2016, 01:15:51 AM
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Whats the possibility of hitting a block on the wallet miner at 39 hs 1 by 8. 
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May 25, 2016, 02:48:14 AM
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Whats the possibility of hitting a block on the wallet miner at 39 hs 1 by 8.

With the current difficulty, the expected time to find a block at 39 H/s will be measured in weeks.

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May 25, 2016, 03:00:10 AM
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Whats the possibility of hitting a block on the wallet miner at 39 hs 1 by 8.

With the current difficulty, the expected time to find a block at 39 H/s will be measured in weeks.
wow that's too long and the electricity bill will eat us up, for me much better to do trading buy low and wait for another rise up before selling it I'm thinking positively that this project will last long just keep holding and wait for the right timing to sell.

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May 25, 2016, 03:07:35 AM
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Whats the possibility of hitting a block on the wallet miner at 39 hs 1 by 8.

With the current difficulty, the expected time to find a block at 39 H/s will be measured in weeks.
wow that's too long and the electricity bill will eat us up, for me much better to do trading buy low and wait for another rise up before selling it I'm thinking positively that this project will last long just keep holding and wait for the right timing to sell.
Thanks I been getting most of my Nuts trading but may try at night while i sleep, for a week or so see what happens.
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Is cryptocurrency-blog miner compatible with Intel Xeon E3-1245V2 and Intel Core i7-3770?

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May 25, 2016, 11:48:36 AM
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Whats the possibility of hitting a block on the wallet miner at 39 hs 1 by 8.

With the current difficulty, the expected time to find a block at 39 H/s will be measured in weeks.
wow that's too long and the electricity bill will eat us up, for me much better to do trading buy low and wait for another rise up before selling it I'm thinking positively that this project will last long just keep holding and wait for the right timing to sell.
good idea wait for another rise up before selling

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May 25, 2016, 12:37:25 PM
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Xeon E3-1245V2 and Intel Core i7-3770 will give you 130 - 160 H/s.

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May 25, 2016, 10:42:08 PM
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Ive been looking at HODL a lot. I am a strong believer in holding long term trusted coins from Hero member developers. I strongly thiking of adapting HODL into my coin FLY , but interest rates on a much smaller scale. If the dev is being interested in b4eing hired by team fly to implement HODL into our code, I would welcome that.

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May 27, 2016, 06:48:07 AM
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Looking at the rich list (http://www.fuzzbawls.pw/explore/HOdlcoin/ledger.php) there are at least two addresses that mined over 600k coins. It would be rather large botnet or someone with gpu miner.
One way or another, these coins once deposited may generate enough to bring the price down. I think game over for hodl. I'm out.
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