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April 02, 2016, 04:12:45 PM
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The team. With input from the community.


How is that decentralized ?
How fast can the fees be changed ?
How can that work with the current (probably lasting) volatility of crypto markets ?

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to FUD here
I really want to get my hands dirty and start coding a Lisk based DAPP but honestly a lot of things seem still pretty vague to me. Such as security of a DAPP for the end user and security of the DAPP code itself (tampering etc...) .

I'm quite hesitant to invest my time and efforts into this.



If you want a decentralized system, why do you think it should be lisks responsibility to verify the security of DAPPs which are created by other people.  The world is full of shady characters, trust is formed by consensus of people not getting scammed.

If you're hesitant, go away.  Plenty of kick ass developers already chatting away in the lisk chatroom. 
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April 02, 2016, 04:18:38 PM
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why do you think it should be lisks responsibility to verify the security of DAPPs


That's not what I was implying. Yet you fail to answer.


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If you're hesitant, go away.

Right. That's the way to answer prospective adopters.
Oh maybe it is THAT time of the month again ?

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April 02, 2016, 04:21:47 PM
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How is that decentralized ?
How fast can the fees be changed ?
How can that work with the current (probably lasting) volatility of crypto markets ?

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to FUD here
I really want to get my hands dirty and start coding a Lisk based DAPP but honestly a lot of things seem still pretty vague to me. Such as security of a DAPP for the end user and security of the DAPP code itself (tampering etc...) .

I'm quite hesitant to invest my time and efforts into this.


The network is decentralized. Every core team is pushing out updates which change elements. Bitcoin, Nxt and also Lisk. Fees can be changed with every update. But we won't change it all the time, it doesn't matter if a delegate account costs 1$ or 70ct.

Security of dapps are still a vague topic, yes. We need to implement a proper sandbox and the developer also have to take care of security within his dapp. The next 3 months will mostly be prototyping, checking out our system and so on. After that the real work can begin. Wink

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April 02, 2016, 04:23:27 PM
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why do you think it should be lisks responsibility to verify the security of DAPPs


That's not what I was implying. Yet you fail to answer.


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If you're hesitant, go away.

Right. That's the way to answer prospective adopters.
Oh maybe it is THAT time of the month again ?



The time of the month when retarded people come in here thinking that people will plead for you to stay because you ask questions that have been answered a million times already?

GTFO tard or do some more research.
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April 02, 2016, 04:38:05 PM
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Thanks for your constructive answer.


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But we won't change it all the time, it doesn't matter if a delegate account costs 1$ or 70ct.

Okay fair enough for delegate accounts.
What worries me more is the fees per transaction.

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0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction

Did you mean 0.1% of LISK amount or is it 0.1 Lisk per transaction.

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Security of dapps are still a vague topic, yes.
Fair enough I can understand that. I guess this must be high on your priority list right?

oh is  cannabanana a member of your team or can I just mute him right away ?

Thanks

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April 02, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
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Thanks for your constructive answer.


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But we won't change it all the time, it doesn't matter if a delegate account costs 1$ or 70ct.

Okay fair enough for delegate accounts.
What worries me more is the fees per transaction.

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0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction

Did you mean 0.1% of LISK amount or is it 0.1 Lisk per transaction.

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Security of dapps are still a vague topic, yes.
Fair enough I can understand that. I guess this must be high on your priority list right?

oh is  cannabanana a member of your team or can I just mute him right away ?

Thanks



maybe if you were not a dick and attacked me first with that time of the month answer, I might have given you some actual help.

Do you need someone to make decisions for you?

Here I'll help, Click Ignore retard.  
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April 02, 2016, 04:42:44 PM
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Thanks for your constructive answer.


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But we won't change it all the time, it doesn't matter if a delegate account costs 1$ or 70ct.

Okay fair enough for delegate accounts.
What worries me more is the fees per transaction.

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0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction

Did you mean 0.1% of LISK amount or is it 0.1 Lisk per transaction.

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Security of dapps are still a vague topic, yes.
Fair enough I can understand that. I guess this must be high on your priority list right?

oh is  cannabanana a member of your team or can I just mute him right away ?

Thanks

- It's 0.1 LISK per transaction. To be reduced before launch.

- Security is #1 on our priority list.

- LiskHQ (me), karmacoma24 and Bigcabrito are the only team members. See OP.

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April 02, 2016, 05:14:38 PM
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It's 0.1 LISK per transaction. To be reduced before launch.

Hmm so if I want to sell a service or whatever in my dapp at 0.1 Lisk what happens ?
How is a fixed fee suitable for small transactions specially if the Lisk price is volatile ?






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April 02, 2016, 05:22:57 PM
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What is everyone doing to bring new people into the ecosystem? We can certainly dream of these massive $1 buys, but what are we specifically doing to attract new people?  I'm doing my small part through social media and 3 friends ready to buy that weren't part of the ICO. Encouraging them to share links to their friends as well.

$1 is floor for the potential of Lisk at minimum. Hitting $5-$10 will either need Ethereum to rocket, or Lisk to develop useful apps.
and there is 6 million to do further marketing Smiley

Which is great, I'm just not a fan of leaving success in the hands of another. The marketing efforts from LiskHQ will be critical, but it's just as important for supporters to get out there and continue to spread the word. Look, I love self congratulatory threads as much as the next one, but I think there's a lot of value of reaching out to new people before the launch. 

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April 02, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
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What is everyone doing to bring new people into the ecosystem? We can certainly dream of these massive $1 buys, but what are we specifically doing to attract new people?  I'm doing my small part through social media and 3 friends ready to buy that weren't part of the ICO. Encouraging them to share links to their friends as well.

$1 is floor for the potential of Lisk at minimum. Hitting $5-$10 will either need Ethereum to rocket, or Lisk to develop useful apps.
and there is 6 million to do further marketing Smiley

Which is great, I'm just not a fan of leaving success in the hands of another. The marketing efforts from LiskHQ will be critical, but it's just as important for supporters to get out there and continue to spread the word. Look, I love self congratulatory threads as much as the next one, but I think there's a lot of value of reaching out to new people before the launch. 

I think that crypti failed to grab a big market share because they ran out of funds to do the marketing aspect of it which is also very important. Lisk is finding a lot of good support from that aspect be it good timing or whatever you want to use as the reason.  I'm sure lisk will do well, there are a crapload of devs talking about their lisk dapp ideas in the chat and official forums.
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Hey guys,

I'm redsn0w and I'm in the cryptocurrency scene from about 3,5 years. I've participated and contributed to nxt the first successful  Pos coin  (translation, community help etc...) so I consider myself a fan & expert of the proof of stake !I hope you will vote for me as active delegate.


VPS specification :

RAM : 1024 MB/1024 MB   
HDD: 60 GB   
Core: 3 vCores   
Bandwidth : 1 TB   
Network : 1 Gbit/sec


current stats of forging (on testnet) :




These are my current votes :


    ANTGenesis02
    CannaBananaDelegate
    Croin_ATA
    GoldenEye
    Gr33nDrag0n
    Grumlin
    Lamar
    MalReynolds
    NTGenesis01
    Phoenix1969
    Splatters
    SplattersHuge
    Tharude_Delegate0
    Tharude_Delegate1
    Videodrome
    atchoum6760
    cc001_test
    corsaro
    digitalcurrencyltd
    gregorst
    nik009
    redsn0w
    testfreemind
    vrlc92_test


Rank : 3
Nickname : redsn0w
Address : 5327467788242764682L



check my votes here :

- lisk.redsn0w.top


Thanks for the attention guys !


https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=185
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April 02, 2016, 06:08:29 PM
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Hi Guys!

My name is Digital_Currency_LTD and I'm in the cryptocurrency scene from about 2 years.

I will be vote all of the persons who voted for me!

My delegate name: digitalcurrencyltd


My current votes :

redsn0w
Phoenix1969
corsaro
CannaBananaDelegate
Grumlin
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CannaBananaTest
cannabananatestnet
digitalcurrencyltd
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You can check my votes here :

http://46.101.219.46:7000/api/accounts/delegates/?address=14181257215831367215L

Thanks your vote!  Wink
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April 02, 2016, 06:10:21 PM
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access denied, when i turn on forging... umm what did i just do? /facepalm
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April 02, 2016, 06:16:21 PM
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access denied, when i turn on forging... umm what did i just do? /facepalm


Did you put your passphrase between "" , like :


"forging": {
  "secret" : ["YourDelegatePassphrase"] <- Replace with your delegate passphrase
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April 02, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
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Lisk v0.1.2 - Release Announcement





We have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.1.2, which resolves the sync issues of the last days. We have also updated our documentation to reflect the new version number.


Changelog and more details in our blog post


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April 02, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
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if lisk is available to buy in 9 days (april 11th), where would I be able to buy first?
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April 02, 2016, 06:39:27 PM
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I noticed lot of chatter on TrollBoxes today about Voxelus (VOX)

VOX started trading today on Bittrex at $0.60 with 210,000,000 Coins !

After doing some research, it was easy to see that VOX doesn't have 1/10th the tech, the potential or the marketing of Lisk:

VOX Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Based on that, LISK should start trading at least $2 to $3 on April 11 given more limited supply of 100,000,000 Coins

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April 02, 2016, 06:46:35 PM
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I noticed lot of chatter on TrollBoxes today about Voxelus (VOX)

VOX started trading today on Bittrex at $0.60 with 210,000,000 Coins !

After doing some research, it was easy to see that VOX doesn't have 1/10th the tech, the potential or the marketing of Lisk:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Based on that, LISK should start trading at least $2 to $3 on April 11 given more limited supply of 100,000,000 Coins



You will surely reevaluate your knowledge after April 11.
However I would be very happy with such price in the first month Wink

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April 02, 2016, 06:46:38 PM
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I noticed lot of chatter on TrollBoxes today about Voxelus (VOX)

VOX started trading today on Bittrex at $0.60 with 210,000,000 Coins !

After doing some research, it was easy to see that VOX doesn't have 1/10th the tech, the potential or the marketing of Lisk:

VOX Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Based on that, LISK should start trading at least $2 to $3 on April 11 given more limited supply of 100,000,000 Coins



Lots of money pouring in to alts again.  I think lisk could eventually beat Litecoins all time high of $50.

Edit: took a look at vox.  actually, not bad if it can work.  But it's basically a game.  Instead of developing a game and putting bitcoin as the payment method, they just created their own coin.
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April 02, 2016, 06:52:28 PM
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access denied, when i turn on forging... umm what did i just do? /facepalm


Did you put your passphrase between "" , like :


"forging": {
  "secret" : ["YourDelegatePassphrase"] <- Replace with your delegate passphrase
}
um im just in the web wallet and when i click on the turn on forging it says access denied
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