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I don't agree with the delay. The purpose is stupid and the community response is understandable. If you consider yourself a legit ico with preset standards, set a date eg 21 April. After that date every investment has half of it's original value. Till that send out 3 warning emails. You can't wait until the eternity is gone to launch lisk because of a minority who is dead/unresponsive/fraudulent.
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April 05, 2016, 09:59:11 PM |
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I smell weakszszs handszszs ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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You don't pay enough.
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April 05, 2016, 10:00:26 PM |
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I wouldn't mind refunds ..... as long as their unwanted shares are redistributed to the rest of us... win win no?
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April 05, 2016, 10:02:06 PM |
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Validate your ICO Passphrase! Important! Every ICO participant should do it! Guys I don't understand it. Why should I risk security issues again. I saved the file. Is there really the possibility that its wrong? Kidding me? With bitcoin you try to make paperwallets offline to be sure, that there is no hacking possibility and I should repeatedly risk it here? just follow rules like ma dringt koa hells ausm weisbiaglasl... crypto rules say, that you don't send unnecessarily security tokens around... so again the question. Is there ANY case, that a passphrase can be wrong in the generated file? There have been cases where people have generated multiple keys, etc. So they implemented a method to make sure you were using the correct key that you generated last. Its up to you really. If you are confident then don't do anything. Your keys will work. However, if you are not using the correct key, you are screwed. reality check: this is actually very professional approach from Lisk team since people's money is here in stakes, the way i see it and some might agree Lisk team has responsibility to do what's on their power to assure donors receive what's rightfully theirs meaning funds and secure them. They did amazingly good job with simple steps on how donors should redeem and secure they Magic words, even my kid could do it lol. After reading all those post from ppl complaining made me understand that only few are aware how huge this distribution Phase is, efforts that needs to be put into it to be handled right way are enormous! To bypass future disputes and discussions about donors who didn't manage to generate their Magic words on time seems like delay is only Logical answer. Just imagine Project of this magnitude launching on 11th April with all this mess behind would probably had catastrophic effects on further development and future healthy growth of Lisk. Now imagine LiskHQ ignores 15% (1000+ ppl) of Donors and launches on 11th and then needs to confront for months with this guys everyday, man that would slow down further progress extremely. I know i don't have nerves reading for months Post from guys popping up who missed Distribution Phase, i would rather see Lisk delayed but after Clean Launch enjoy following development and growth of this Project. LiskHQ good job as usual, ignore trolls as they are not aware how big and important good Launch is, world is watching ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 05, 2016, 10:18:16 PM |
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I just wanted to contribute by informing the people of LISK that Gmail made me receive the email in 'Promotions', which I normally never read and I think a lot of people might miss it because of that.
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April 05, 2016, 10:18:31 PM |
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I lisk = BTC 0.06 !!! How do you calculate?
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April 05, 2016, 10:22:30 PM |
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I just wanted to contribute by informing the people of LISK that Gmail made me receive the email in 'Promotions', which I normally never read and I think a lot of people might miss it because of that.
Yes, me too.
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April 05, 2016, 10:43:52 PM |
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Happy to sell all my LISK for the great price of only .026 btc per lisk!!!! This bargain won't last! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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April 05, 2016, 10:44:21 PM Last edit: April 05, 2016, 11:09:10 PM by deadpoolx |
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I lisk = BTC 0.06 !!! How do you calculate?
That's really crazy: 0.06 BTC/Lisk, for total supply of 100 million Lisk? that mean 2.526 billion dollars in market cap. (Considering 1 BTC = 421 $) But Ethereum achieved 1 Billion market cap few weeks ago, I believe in the Lisk project and we can achieve this. And after the Bitcoin halving event, who knows if we achieve 2 Billion market cap? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 05, 2016, 10:46:40 PM |
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I don't agree with the delay. The purpose is stupid and the community response is understandable. If you consider yourself a legit ico with preset standards, set a date eg 21 April. After that date every investment has half of it's original value. Till that send out 3 warning emails. You can't wait until the eternity is gone to launch lisk because of a minority who is dead/unresponsive/fraudulent.
lets hope they are not dead ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 05, 2016, 10:50:25 PM |
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Fuck this shit, im out. Selling all my stack at 70% ico price, fuck you Max.
Why would you left the boat when it's not even launched ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? That's a big question. However, if you're still willing to sell a part of your stack, I'm might want to buy it. PM me if you're interested ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ! That´s the thing, this fucking scammers hijacked my money. Did your lisks disappeared ? Or is it the delay you're complaining about ? The delay isn't a big problem I think if it can help them building something better. When so much money was invested in a project, you just don't want it to fail ! YOU SAID THE DELAY ISN'T A BIG PROBLEM? YOU ARE FUCKIN IDIOT BITCH!!Is a big problem when you have a destiny for the money and a balance made. Im not the fucking soros who can throw money in something and wait indeterminately cause he is already rich.
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April 05, 2016, 10:52:47 PM |
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ROTFL, the guy actually not only assumed he would be able to spend the money at a given date on a coin that has not yet launched - worse, he must have assumed some price - which could be almost anything. With weak hands of this magnitude people still wonder if the price can fall below IPO? Fuck this shit, im out. Selling all my stack at 70% ico price, fuck you Max.
Why would you left the boat when it's not even launched ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? That's a big question. However, if you're still willing to sell a part of your stack, I'm might want to buy it. PM me if you're interested ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ! That´s the thing, this fucking scammers hijacked my money. Did your lisks disappeared ? Or is it the delay you're complaining about ? The delay isn't a big problem I think if it can help them building something better. When so much money was invested in a project, you just don't want it to fail ! YOU SAID THE DELAY ISN'T A BIG PROBLEM? YOU ARE FUCKIN IDIOT BITCH!!Is a big problem when you have a destiny for the money and a balance made. Im not the fucking soros who can throw money in something and wait indeterminately cause he is already rich.
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April 05, 2016, 10:55:37 PM |
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Fuck this shit, im out. Selling all my stack at 70% ico price, fuck you Max.
Why would you left the boat when it's not even launched ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? That's a big question. However, if you're still willing to sell a part of your stack, I'm might want to buy it. PM me if you're interested ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ! That´s the thing, this fucking scammers hijacked my money. Did your lisks disappeared ? Or is it the delay you're complaining about ? The delay isn't a big problem I think if it can help them building something better. When so much money was invested in a project, you just don't want it to fail ! YOU SAID THE DELAY ISN'T A BIG PROBLEM? YOU ARE FUCKIN IDIOT BITCH!!Is a big problem when you have a destiny for the money and a balance made. Im not the fucking soros who can throw money in something and wait indeterminately cause he is already rich. He says "Im not the fucking soros who can throw money in something and wait indeterminately cause he is already rich." ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Take it easy boy ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.traderrebate.com%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2Fgeorgesoros.png&t=665&c=3UuTrLZI-DcHOA)
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April 05, 2016, 10:56:05 PM |
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when launch exange?
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April 05, 2016, 10:59:16 PM |
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when launch exange?
did you validate your keys?
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April 05, 2016, 11:01:13 PM |
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April 05, 2016, 11:06:52 PM |
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Is a big problem when you have a destiny for the money and a balance made. Im not the fucking soros who can throw money in something and wait indeterminately cause he is already rich.
Why gamble your money into an ICO while you can't actually miss it? And though it's looking good for Lisk, there is absolutly zero guarantee you will make profit. I hope you don't have a family to support, taking those risks. Fuck this shit, im out. Selling all my stack at 70% ico price, fuck you Max.
Now that's a statement. I think a lot of us will be very impressed.
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April 05, 2016, 11:09:13 PM |
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While waiting for the launch, read this ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 101 Famous Quotes by Warren Buffett on Investing
“Never invest in a business you cannot understand.” “Always invest for the long term.” “No matter how great the talent or efforts, some things just take time. You can’t produce a baby in one month by getting nine women pregnant.” “Whether we’re talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down.” “What we learn from history is that people don’t learn from history.” “Buy a business, don’t rent stocks.” “You don’t need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beats the guy with 130 IQ.” “We have long felt that the only value of stock forecasters is to make fortune-tellers look good.” “A prediction about the direction of the stock market tells you nothing about where stocks are headed, but a whole lot about the person doing the predicting.” “Someone’s sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago.” “I really like my life. I’ve arranged my life so that I can do what I want.” “We will only do with your money what we would do with our own.” “If you don’t feel comfortable owning something for 10 years, then don’t own it for 10 minutes.” “I am a better investor because I am a businessman and a better businessman because I am an investor.” “Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.” “The Stock Market is designed to transfer money from the Active to the Patient.” “Stop trying to predict the direction of the stock market, the economy, interest rates, or elections.” “I never attempt to make money on the stock market. I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for ten years.” “By periodically investing in an index fund, the know-nothing investors can actually outperform most investment professionals.” “I have pledged… to always run Berkshire with more than ample cash… I will not trade even a night’s sleep for the chance of extra profits.” “The best business returns are usually achieved by companies that are doing something quite similar today to what they were doing five or ten years ago.” “Investing is laying out money now to get more money back in the future.” “The stock market is a no-called-strike game. You don’t have to swing at everything – you can wait for your pitch.” “Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good results.” “I don’t look to jump over 7-foot bars: I look around for 1-foot bars that I can step over.” “For some reason, people take their cues from price action rather than from values. What doesn’t work is when you start doing things that you don’t understand or because they worked last week for somebody else. The dumbest reason in the world to buy a stock is because it’s going up.” “Never give up searching for the job that you’re passionate about. Try to find the job you’d have if you were independently rich. Forget about the pay. When you’re associating with the people that you love, doing what you love, it doesn’t get any better than that.” “We don’t get paid for activity, just for being right. As to how long we will wait, we’ll wait indefinitely.” “As Buffet said in the speech, “He’s not looking at quarterly earnings projections, he’s not looking at next year’s earnings, he’s not thinking about what day of the week it is, he doesn’t care what investment research from any place says, he’s not interested in price momentum, volume or anything. He’s simply asking: What is the business worth?” “Buy companies with strong histories of profitability and with a dominant business franchise.” “Most people get interested in stocks when everyone else is. The time to get interested is when no one else is. You can’t buy what is popular and do well.” “Our approach is very much profiting from lack of change rather than from change. With Wrigley chewing gum, it’s the lack of change that appeals to me. I don’t think it is going to be hurt by the Internet. That’s the kind of business I like.” “When asked how he became so successful in investing, Buffett answered: ‘we read hundreds and hundreds of annual reports every year.” “When a management team with a reputation for brilliance joins a business with poor fundamental economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.” “I try to buy stock in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will.” “Only those who will be sellers of equities in the near future should be happy at seeing stocks rise. Prospective purchasers should much prefer sinking prices.” “Diversification is a protection against ignorance. It makes very little sense for those who know what they’re doing.” “Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand what they are doing.” “You’re neither right nor wrong because other people agree with you. You’re right because your facts are right and your reasoning is right – that’s the only thing that makes you right. And if your facts and reasoning are right, you don’t have to worry about anybody else.” “It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you’ll do things differently.” “The first rule is not to lose. The second rule is not to forget the first rule.” “Only buy something that you’d be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years.” “I will tell you how to become rich. Close the doors. Be fearful when others are greedy. Be greedy when others are fearful.” “Why not invest your assets in the companies you really like? As Mae West said, ‘Too much of a good thing can be wonderful.” “Our favorite holding period is forever.” “Investing is laying out money now to get more money back in the future.” “The most important thing to do if you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging.” “Money is not everything. Make sure you earn a lot before speaking such nonsense.” “When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.” “Risk comes from not knowing what you’re doing.” “Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.” “The critical investment factor is determining the intrinsic value of a business and paying a fair or bargain price.” “Investors making purchases in an overheated market need to recognize that it may often take an extended period for the value of even an outstanding company to catch up with the price they paid.” “It’s better to hang out with people better than you. Pick out associates whose behavior is better than yours and you’ll drift in that direction.” “Risk can be greatly reduced by concentrating on only a few holdings.” “It is not necessary to do extraordinary things to get extraordinary results.” “An investor should ordinarily hold a small piece of an outstanding business with the same tenacity that an owner would exhibit if he owned all of that business.” “Diversification may preserve wealth, but concentration builds wealth.” “Great investment opportunities come around when excellent companies are surrounded by unusual circumstances that cause the stock to be misappraised.” “You won’t keep control of your time, unless you can say ‘no.’ You can’t let other people set your agenda in life.” “In the business world, the rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.” “If a business does well, the stock eventually follows.” “Cash never makes us happy, but it’s better to have the money burning a hole in Berkshire’s pocket than resting comfortably in someone else’s.” “Wall Street is the only place that people ride to in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway.” “A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought.” “I never buy anything unless I can fill out on a piece of paper my reasons. I may be wrong, but I would know the answer to that …I’m paying $32 billion today for the Coca Cola Company because… If you can’t answer that question, you shouldn’t buy it. If you can answer that question, and you do it a few times, you’ll make a lot of money.“ “The investor of today does not profit from yesterday’s growth.“ “I knew a lot about what I did when I was 20. I had read a lot, and I aspired to learn everything I could about the subject.” “You only have to do a very few things right in your life so long as you don’t do too many things wrong.“ “It’s far better to buy a wonderful company at a fair price than a fair company at a wonderful price.“ “You ought to be able to explain why you’re taking the job you’re taking, why you’re making the investment you’re making, or whatever it may be. And if it can’t stand applying pencil to paper, you’d better think it through some more. And if you can’t write an intelligent answer to those questions, don’t do it.“ “Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it.“ “An investor needs to do very few things right as long as he or she avoids big mistakes.“ “Do a lot of reading.” – on how to determine the value of a business “Somebody once said that in looking for people to hire, you look for three qualities: integrity, intelligence, and energy. And if you don’t have the first, the other two will kill you. You think about it; it’s true. If you hire somebody without [integrity], you really want them to be dumb and lazy.” “Only when the tide goes out do you discover who’s been swimming naked.“ “The fact that people will be full of greed, fear, or folly is predictable. The sequence is not predictable.“ “Time is the friend of the wonderful company, the enemy of the mediocre.“ “I do not like debt and do not like to invest in companies that have too much debt, particularly long-term debt. With long-term debt, increases in interest rates can drastically affect company profits and make future cash flows less predictable.“ “We will reject interesting opportunities rather than over-leverage our balance sheet.“ “I always knew I was going to be rich. I don’t think I ever doubted it for a minute.“ “Turnarounds seldom turn.“ “If at first you do succeed, quit trying on investing.“ “I don’t measure my life by the money I’ve made. Other people might, but certainly don’t.“ “Anything can happen in stock markets and you ought to conduct your affairs so that if the most extraordinary events happen, that you’re still around to play the next day.“ “You shouldn’t own common stocks if a 50 per cent decrease in their value in a short period of time would cause you acute distress.“ “With few exceptions when a manager with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for poor economics, it is the reputation of the business which remains intact.“ “The business schools reward complex behavior more than simple behavior, but simple behavior is more effective.“ “It’s not debt per say that overwhelms an individual corporation or country. Rather it is a continuous increase in debt in relation to income that causes trouble.“ “A great investment opportunity occurs when a marvelous business encounters a one-time huge, but solvable problem.“ “You do not adequately protect yourself by being half awake when other are sleeping.“ “We like to buy businesses, but we don’t like to sell them.“ “Money to some extent sometimes let you be in more interesting environments. But it can’t change how many people love you or how healthy you are.“ “It’s us fun being a gorse when the tractor comes along, or the blacksmith when the car comes along.“ “Enjoy your work and work for whom you admire.“ “With enough insider information and a million dollars, you can go broke in a year.“ “Read Ben Graham and Phil Fisher read annual reports, but don’t do equations with Greek letters in them.“ “In a commodity business, it’s very hard to be smarter than your dumbest competitor.“ “A hyperactive stock market is the pickpocket of enterprise.“ “Valuing a business is part art and part science.“ “Chains of habits are too light to be felt until they are too heavy to be broken.”
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April 05, 2016, 11:14:12 PM |
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Is lisk delayed? Oh noes! ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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April 05, 2016, 11:17:15 PM |
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Is lisk delayed? Oh noes! ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What is the biggest reason for the delay?
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