LemonAndFriesOne
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May 05, 2016, 04:11:32 AM |
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again, if you live in the USA you know better than to trust cnn ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is official no matter what is said you won't change your mind or give anyone any credit for the points that were made. I understand your personality type and there is not much to learn from you in life. I am just glad that I purchased a more than a few bitcoins of LISK during the ICO. I am always thinking long term and not late to the game. I wish you well in life. I'm just saying, googling a random phrase and putting up the first websites that pop-up do not count as credible sources. Especially when you are trying to debate with someone that has first hand experience by living in the country you are trying to be critical about. Again, all the sources you have listed are known to try and push fear mongering amongst the masses. Come up with some scholarly articles and papers from actual experts, not just pundents/opinion makers.
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just2laff
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May 05, 2016, 04:40:01 AM |
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CNN?? jeez....
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elitecstrike
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May 05, 2016, 05:07:19 AM |
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When will dapps be live to test and use?
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cannabanana
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May 05, 2016, 05:53:10 AM |
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When will dapps be live to test and use?
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Ayers
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May 05, 2016, 05:55:52 AM |
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When will dapps be live to test and use?
not before release i guess, it would be stupid, we still need to test some thing about the release itself, if everything will be ok at launch or not, dev are still running test net, also some user neev to validate yet
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bitseedmike
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May 05, 2016, 06:44:36 AM |
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again, if you live in the USA you know better than to trust cnn ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is official no matter what is said you won't change your mind or give anyone any credit for the points that were made. I understand your personality type and there is not much to learn from you in life. I am just glad that I purchased a more than a few bitcoins of LISK during the ICO. I am always thinking long term and not late to the game. I wish you well in life. I'm just saying, googling a random phrase and putting up the first websites that pop-up do not count as credible sources. Especially when you are trying to debate with someone that has first hand experience by living in the country you are trying to be critical about. Again, all the sources you have listed are known to try and push fear mongering amongst the masses. Come up with some scholarly articles and papers from actual experts, not just pundents/opinion makers. Shadowstats, http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data , uses the original formulas to calculate CPI and other figures before they were changed in the 1990s to make things look better. The US has actually been in continuous recession for a long time, but it has been masked by a massive increase in money supply which has been used to prop up the stock, bond, and real estate markets with negative real interest rates (interest - actual inflation = negative interest of around -4%). Anyone who buys food and other items in the US sees this. Food prices are up 50-100% over the last 10 years. Package weights have steadily decreased since 2008. As an example, I have seen Ritz crackers go from 16 oz. to 13.2 oz over the last fiver years. When I first noticed the Ritz have 2 different box sizes with 16 and 15.1 oz, I asked the checkout clerk about it, he said a lot of products were downsizing. I last saw this in the mid 70s - especially candy bars. Airlines mask inflation by reducing leg room to add seats and charge fees for luggage, food, much more for alcohol, and 'fuel' surcharges. A lot more of the inflation has been exported from the US to other countries with export economies, which continue to devalue their currencies to match the devaluation of the dollar to remain competitive. The so-called experts from academia all drink the Keynesian Koolaid since they will not keep their jobs otherwise. Paul Krugman is an idiot. Monetarism and Keynesianism are just two sides of the same silver plated copper coin since money supply is increased by creating government debt. I did hear a very good point, though, at a recent Ethereum meetup regarding money from Steve Waldman's talk, http://www.meetup.com/EthereumSiliconValley/events/228772099/ . His observation is that what gives money value is it purchases human behavior. I didn't agree with his dismissal of gold as an obsolete form of money, but I also don't see gold has having an intrinsic value beyond the belief people have in it to store value - it just has a much, much longer history than fiat or crypto of being universally accepted, the supply of physical metal can't be arbitrarily created like fiat, and it doesn't rely on modern technology to be usable, like crypto. The dollar as a reserve currency is propped up by it being required to buy oil. Oil producing countries which start to accept currencies other than USD end up with regime changes. Russia is too big for this, so instead they get drawn into a conflict in the Ukraine and the oil markets are manipulated to crash the price of oil. The dollar is on the decline as the single global reserve currency as the BRICS countries and Asian countries continue to develop alternatives to SWIFT, BIS, and the IMF. It seemed like the dollar was the stern of the Titanic popping up out of the water, with the Euro at the bow, before the whole thing goes under (physical gold and silver are the lifeboats), but now it is more like they're flooding all the compartments with currency devaluations so it all sinks on an even keel in a race to the bottom. The negative interest rates are really hilarious. I can imagine the 'experts' writing more numerical fiction, trying to plug negative numbers into their log functions as they attempt to model an economy with negative interest rates.
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moonfrog
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May 05, 2016, 06:46:36 AM |
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I do think size of bounty must be reduced. An average bounty participant will receive about 1000 LISKs. This is relatively too much in comparison with BTC ICO investors. BTC ICO investors have made LISK worth every satoshi but bounty participants not.
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thandie
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May 05, 2016, 07:53:15 AM |
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I do think size of bounty must be reduced. An average bounty participant will receive about 1000 LISKs. This is relatively too much in comparison with BTC ICO investors. BTC ICO investors have made LISK worth every satoshi but bounty participants not.
The participants of the Bounty campaigns have Lisk supported before the ICO. And these people have a stake in the success of the ICO. The terms and conditions were set at the beginning - not afterwards. You are registered since March 20, 2016... So you have nothing to do with the campaigns, stop writing nonsense!
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bitseedmike
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May 05, 2016, 08:43:51 AM |
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It's called marketing. The ICO would never have succeeded if only a few people knew about it.
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May 05, 2016, 09:35:03 AM |
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It's called marketing. The ICO would never have succeeded if only a few people knew about it.
Even though I didn't take part in the campaign I wouldn't invest on LISK without those users supporting Lisk since the beginning.
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LiskHQ (OP)
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May 05, 2016, 10:20:42 AM |
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Lisk v0.2.0 — Release AnnouncementA few days ago we updated our testnet to the Lisk client v0.2.0, this release introduced a vast amount of optimisations, bug fixes and improvements to Lisk. It also was the first step towards a modular crypto-currency. With Lisk v0.2.0 our current testnet begins from scratch. That means all current testnet delegates have to do all necessary steps from zero. They need to update their nodes, get 1000 LISK from our faucet and register a delegate account. Then they need to collect enough votes to get into the top 101. Right now our genesis delegates are the only ones actively forging. Tomorrow we will slowly remove our votes from them, in order to let community delegates secure the testnet again. https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-2-0-release-announcement-41a4c5221bb8Lisk v0.2.1 — Release AnnouncementWe have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.2.1, this release fixes many bugs and regressions found during internal community testing of v0.2.0. https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-2-1-release-announcement-89945c835849
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May 05, 2016, 10:39:07 AM |
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Lisk v0.2.0 — Release AnnouncementA few days ago we updated our testnet to the Lisk client v0.2.0, this release introduced a vast amount of optimisations, bug fixes and improvements to Lisk. It also was the first step towards a modular crypto-currency. With Lisk v0.2.0 our current testnet begins from scratch. That means all current testnet delegates have to do all necessary steps from zero. They need to update their nodes, get 1000 LISK from our faucet and register a delegate account. Then they need to collect enough votes to get into the top 101. Right now our genesis delegates are the only ones actively forging. Tomorrow we will slowly remove our votes from them, in order to let community delegates secure the testnet again. https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-2-0-release-announcement-41a4c5221bb8Lisk v0.2.1 — Release AnnouncementWe have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.2.1, this release fixes many bugs and regressions found during internal community testing of v0.2.0. https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-2-1-release-announcement-89945c835849 thus making 10 lisk= $2,378
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May 05, 2016, 12:08:01 PM |
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thus making 10 lisk= $2,378
Wrong, thus 1 Lisk = $2048
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May 05, 2016, 12:39:12 PM |
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Lisk v0.2.0 — Release AnnouncementA few days ago we updated our testnet to the Lisk client v0.2.0, this release introduced a vast amount of optimisations, bug fixes and improvements to Lisk. It also was the first step towards a modular crypto-currency. With Lisk v0.2.0 our current testnet begins from scratch. That means all current testnet delegates have to do all necessary steps from zero. They need to update their nodes, get 1000 LISK from our faucet and register a delegate account. Then they need to collect enough votes to get into the top 101. Right now our genesis delegates are the only ones actively forging. Tomorrow we will slowly remove our votes from them, in order to let community delegates secure the testnet again. https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-2-0-release-announcement-41a4c5221bb8Lisk v0.2.1 — Release AnnouncementYes something good is happening!!! We have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.2.1, this release fixes many bugs and regressions found during internal community testing of v0.2.0. https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-v0-2-1-release-announcement-89945c835849
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lockepi
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May 05, 2016, 01:26:44 PM |
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really hope this works out some coins with good tech still not recognised look at blitz smart apps on the blockchain it also connects other coins on the blockchain market cap undr $150,000
go lisk
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uqaz
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May 05, 2016, 05:33:43 PM Last edit: May 05, 2016, 06:14:48 PM by uqaz |
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Shadowstats, http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data , uses the original formulas to calculate CPI and other figures before they were changed in the 1990s to make things look better. The US has actually been in continuous recession for a long time, but it has been masked by a massive increase in money supply which has been used to prop up the stock, bond, and real estate markets with negative real interest rates (interest - actual inflation = negative interest of around -4%). Anyone who buys food and other items in the US sees this. Food prices are up 50-100% over the last 10 years. Package weights have steadily decreased since 2008. As an example, I have seen Ritz crackers go from 16 oz. to 13.2 oz over the last fiver years. When I first noticed the Ritz have 2 different box sizes with 16 and 15.1 oz, I asked the checkout clerk about it, he said a lot of products were downsizing. I last saw this in the mid 70s - especially candy bars. Airlines mask inflation by reducing leg room to add seats and charge fees for luggage, food, much more for alcohol, and 'fuel' surcharges. A lot more of the inflation has been exported from the US to other countries with export economies, which continue to devalue their currencies to match the devaluation of the dollar to remain competitive. The so-called experts from academia all drink the Keynesian Koolaid since they will not keep their jobs otherwise. Paul Krugman is an idiot. Monetarism and Keynesianism are just two sides of the same silver plated copper coin since money supply is increased by creating government debt. I did hear a very good point, though, at a recent Ethereum meetup regarding money from Steve Waldman's talk, http://www.meetup.com/EthereumSiliconValley/events/228772099/ . His observation is that what gives money value is it purchases human behavior. I didn't agree with his dismissal of gold as an obsolete form of money, but I also don't see gold has having an intrinsic value beyond the belief people have in it to store value - it just has a much, much longer history than fiat or crypto of being universally accepted, the supply of physical metal can't be arbitrarily created like fiat, and it doesn't rely on modern technology to be usable, like crypto. The dollar as a reserve currency is propped up by it being required to buy oil. Oil producing countries which start to accept currencies other than USD end up with regime changes. Russia is too big for this, so instead they get drawn into a conflict in the Ukraine and the oil markets are manipulated to crash the price of oil. The dollar is on the decline as the single global reserve currency as the BRICS countries and Asian countries continue to develop alternatives to SWIFT, BIS, and the IMF. It seemed like the dollar was the stern of the Titanic popping up out of the water, with the Euro at the bow, before the whole thing goes under (physical gold and silver are the lifeboats), but now it is more like they're flooding all the compartments with currency devaluations so it all sinks on an even keel in a race to the bottom. The negative interest rates are really hilarious. I can imagine the 'experts' writing more numerical fiction, trying to plug negative numbers into their log functions as they attempt to model an economy with negative interest rates. http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/jmdg.gif
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Scott J
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May 05, 2016, 05:46:47 PM |
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Will Lisk be tradeable on exchanges day 1 of launch?
I imagine so, though depends on the exchanges.
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cannabanana
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May 05, 2016, 05:49:57 PM |
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Will Lisk be tradeable on exchanges day 1 of launch?
I imagine so, though depends on the exchanges. The only confirmed is CCEX but i'm sure Bittrex will add it quickly.
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Mrmoney2
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May 05, 2016, 06:00:23 PM |
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If nobody sell cheaper than $10 this would be it's value. We should not set cheaper orders IMO
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May 05, 2016, 06:36:26 PM |
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If nobody sell cheaper than $10 this would be it's value. We should not set cheaper orders IMO
I'm thinking most peoples sell orders won't be below $2 at launch. Only a very small percentage will sell in the cents trying to make a tiny profit. Let the weak hands dump into huge buy orders thus still raising the price because we want to buy cheap Lisk. I refuse to sell under $2-5.
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