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Author Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers  (Read 3002488 times)
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November 07, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
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I hope the coin can go up a lot
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November 07, 2017, 07:52:09 PM
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Actually brought more Lisk recently I have to say I like the invest solid team hiring employees which means there very  serious conferences that's happening looking forward to what lisk is going to bring in the future
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November 07, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
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Does Smb knows, whether this team has experience?

I'd say it is one of the greatest teams in crypto. Does that answer your question?
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November 07, 2017, 08:33:11 PM
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I'm new to crypto and I've had a small amount of LSK for a few months, but I've never actually voted. I realize different pools offer different rewards. But could anyone give me a rough idea on what the return would be like for someone with say 100 LSK coins? I found earnlisk.com but the calculator is a little confusing to me. I realize I'd burn 1 LSK for 33 votes and that when any LSK is sent to me I'd lose 0.1LSK.

With 100 coins it says I'd earn 0.9 LSK.

Is that 0.9LSK profit? (meaning I'd earn about 5 LSK a month minus 4 LSK for me voting minus 0.1 LSK in fees to transfer them to me)

Or is that saying I'd earn 0.9LSK total. (meaning I'd spend 4LSK voting to earn ~ 0.9LSK. Basically I'd lose ~ 3LSK if I tried)


Basically I'm trying to figure out if it's worth me voting, or if I should try to acquire more LSK before doing so. There must be some approximate number of LSK to own to making voting worthwhile.

Thanks!
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November 07, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
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noobs, finally stop voting all 101 delegates blindly!
You have no plan what you're doing thereby!

With this uninformed manner you support pools which disburse lousy 0%-25%
and you're also helping to centralize the delegate system. This could end in a
situation where greedy groups dominating, keeping all Lisk for themselves and
doesn't share anymore!

Inform yourself about this odd, questionable delegate situation before you vote!
r/Lisk is full of appropriate posts. Read!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lisk/new/


I agree. I'm not very happy with the way this "delegates" thing works.
Why do these guys need to keep >50% while we vote for them in the first place?

Why not do it like Waves, where anyone can start a node or a pool if he holds enough Waves or can get enough leases?

Hopefully the Lisk team makes some changes that will create a fair way of distribution.

I'm not even planning on voting, the way it is right now.

Agreed in that they should follow the waves model. This 101 delegates only allows certain whales to control the price of lisk as they dump them all on the exchange. This needs changing before the rebrand and marketing

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November 07, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
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I'm new to crypto and I've had a small amount of LSK for a few months, but I've never actually voted. I realize different pools offer different rewards. But could anyone give me a rough idea on what the return would be like for someone with say 100 LSK coins? I found earnlisk.com but the calculator is a little confusing to me. I realize I'd burn 1 LSK for 33 votes and that when any LSK is sent to me I'd lose 0.1LSK.

With 100 coins it says I'd earn 0.9 LSK.

Is that 0.9LSK profit? (meaning I'd earn about 5 LSK a month minus 4 LSK for me voting minus 0.1 LSK in fees to transfer them to me)

Or is that saying I'd earn 0.9LSK total. (meaning I'd spend 4LSK voting to earn ~ 0.9LSK. Basically I'd lose ~ 3LSK if I tried)

Basically I'm trying to figure out if it's worth me voting, or if I should try to acquire more LSK before doing so. There must be some approximate number of LSK to own to making voting worthwhile.
Thanks!
According to earnlisk, for that 100lsk in your wallet, you would earn 0.9lisk monthly. So let's say you buy 103lsk, 3lsk are spent for 101 votes. You now have 100lsk and from now on you will earn approximately 0.9lsk, so it will take you 4 months to get back lisk you have spent on voting. And from that moment on, you can count profits, because if there are no big changes in delegates, you will constantly get these 0.9 lisk every month. But yeah, it looks like for some decent profits an account of around 300/500 would be needed, I think. However you can buy these lisk now and vote and just add new lisk when you can afford them, because the votes are permanent and will always count your most recent wallet balance when it comes to the reward.
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November 07, 2017, 10:06:27 PM
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With 100 LSK only, it does not make sense to vote in my option. Most delegates send rewards if 1, 5 or 10 LSK is reached, otherwise your reward is eaten up by the transaction fee. You will wait forever to get the 3 LSK back you have spend for voting.

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November 08, 2017, 02:52:44 AM
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Lisk is dumbbbb and super imbalanced. I mean 70% of the coins belong to the top 100 people. Lol. All the noobs here playing with LISK to make the top holders wealthy. Slaves.
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November 08, 2017, 04:07:32 AM
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"gdtpool" delegate (a 100% shared forged rewards* pool) needs you, the community vote! At Rank 102 now!


if community wants, this goal to reach 101 and activate forging can be ACHIEVED.


GDTPool delegate is a 100% shared forged rewards pool which is designed to maximize a non-forger / community voters payouts. In fact, GDTPool excludes all GDT members from payouts**.

Want More? Do you want to receive immediately a bonus? Read Below 😉

If you vote for all the members of GDT + gdtpool (32 delegates, see https://pool.liskgdt.net/members) your account will start receiving immediately an extra GOLD LEVEL VOTER BONUS! (payouts are done on weekly basis when sum reaches 1 LSK). To see actual payouts take a look here: https://explorer.lisk.4miners.net/address/1251806989552612274L
plus payouts from 23 independent pools (21 are active forging now)


*Once the Lisk SDK is developed, it will change to a 90% forging pool as 10% of the rewards will be used to support blockchain applications built on the Lisk Platform.
**Known associated accounts will be excluded also.

Voters can check their status at https://pool.liskgdt.net/account and https://pool.liskgdt.net/stats
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November 08, 2017, 07:04:46 AM
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This is why Lisk may rocket in the coming days - ETH may hardfork again - not fit for purpose

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywbqmg/parity-multi-signature-wallet-vulnerability-300-million-hard-fork

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November 08, 2017, 08:07:27 AM
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Communitypool is 80% reward sharing delegate. One of the best payout pool in top 101 for your one vote. Distributing around 2500 LSK weekly with voters. If you have one spare vote, please consider to vote communitypool .

Check pool site : https://communitypool.info

Proposal : https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1268

Communitypool also doing small campaigns and actively donating from remaining 20% to community members who put a lot of effort for Lisk. Check Transparency report for this.

Transparency Report: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1474

Thank you all voters for continuous support.
This delegate is very good for LSK voters in term of profit sharing!
For new LSK voters, I share some information about forging reward that may help:
I have around 1650 LSK and vote for Community delegate (80% reward sharing), after ~3.5 months I get ~ 3.5 LSK from this pool including tx fees (0.4 LSK).
I don't support Elite and GDT "bullying" model so I almost unvoted all these related delegates.
I call out some "tricky" pools for average LSK holder to avoid/reconsider:
   + liskpool_com_01 :sharing 85%, ~ 3.5 months forging, ~ 1650LSK but pending reward ~ 2.2 LSK, paying threshold is 10 LSK => JUST A WAY TO TRICK/RAPE/CHEAT NEW AVERAGE LSK VOTERS
   + liskpool.top: sharing 90%, ~ 3.5 months forging, ~ 1650 LSK but reward pending ~ 2.6 LSK, paying threshold is 5 LSK
   + shinekami: sharing 80%, ~ 3.5 months forging, ~ 1650 LSK but reward pending ~ 2.6 LSK, paying threshold is 5 LSK

Why not (Pending > 2 LSK & not paying > 2 months) OR (Pending > 1 LSK & not paying > 3 months)... => JUST PAYING FOR VOTERS OR LET THEM REWARD CLAMING

Thanks!
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November 08, 2017, 08:10:43 AM
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Delegate system is good for voters at the same time it has made gang around the network, List has nothing now except gangs i wonder when we'll start seeing real world Daaps?
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November 08, 2017, 10:20:05 AM
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Communitypool is 80% reward sharing delegate. One of the best payout pool in top 101 for your one vote. Distributing around 2500 LSK weekly with voters. If you have one spare vote, please consider to vote communitypool .

Check pool site : https://communitypool.info

Proposal : https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1268

Communitypool also doing small campaigns and actively donating from remaining 20% to community members who put a lot of effort for Lisk. Check Transparency report for this.

Transparency Report: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1474

Thank you all voters for continuous support.
This delegate is very good for LSK voters in term of profit sharing!
For new LSK voters, I share some information about forging reward that may help:
I have around 1650 LSK and vote for Community delegate (80% reward sharing), after ~3.5 months I get ~ 3.5 LSK from this pool including tx fees (0.4 LSK).
I don't support Elite and GDT "bullying" model so I almost unvoted all these related delegates.
I call out some "tricky" pools for average LSK holder to avoid/reconsider:
   + liskpool_com_01 :sharing 85%, ~ 3.5 months forging, ~ 1650LSK but pending reward ~ 2.2 LSK, paying threshold is 10 LSK => JUST A WAY TO TRICK/RAPE/CHEAT NEW AVERAGE LSK VOTERS
   + liskpool.top: sharing 90%, ~ 3.5 months forging, ~ 1650 LSK but reward pending ~ 2.6 LSK, paying threshold is 5 LSK
   + shinekami: sharing 80%, ~ 3.5 months forging, ~ 1650 LSK but reward pending ~ 2.6 LSK, paying threshold is 5 LSK

Why not (Pending > 2 LSK & not paying > 2 months) OR (Pending > 1 LSK & not paying > 3 months)... => JUST PAYING FOR VOTERS OR LET THEM REWARD CLAMING

Thanks!

small weight voters are fucked in the lsk delgate game of thrones. it should be easy to change payout scripts as you mentioned, but it seems small voter support isn´t worth it.
others like forrest did change payout limits for 1 lsk to 2 lsk. Small voters are going away someone in time and will never get any reward. 
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November 08, 2017, 04:12:59 PM
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Delegate system is good for voters at the same time it has made gang around the network, List has nothing now except gangs i wonder when we'll start seeing real world Daaps?

+1

Obviously not this year. The project seems behind several months -- what happened with "SDK in the end of 2017"?! It's all about delegate gangs and poses like rebranding and no working product. It looks more and more disappointing.
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November 08, 2017, 05:00:07 PM
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I love this price of lisk is gworing but its still cheap.
My top favorite coin after bitcoin.
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November 08, 2017, 05:09:25 PM
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I love this price of lisk is gworing but its still cheap.
My top favorite coin after bitcoin.


A lot of potential if you consider the gap between bitcoin and LISK the potential for LISK to grow Smiley
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November 08, 2017, 05:11:58 PM
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Lisk is feelin frisky today boys… it woke up in a great mood.

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November 08, 2017, 05:33:24 PM
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Just FYI, the lighturve delegate is from LiskHQ. I think that they will use those funds for app development and sponsoring and such...

Guys,

Please un-vote the delegate lightcurve. The greedy lightcurve shares nothing to voters. If you votes this delegate, you receive nothing in return. The delegate owner takes all forging rewards

Yeah, I support lightcurve delegate because this gives incentives to the 30+ Lisk employees, how? well if they have coins for them selfs for sure they will want to see their holdings rise higher, and how? they keep working hard.

lightcurve is a LiskHQ delegate, confirmed here: https://blog.lisk.io/hello-lightcurve-f621c28bff89

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In the next days and weeks further steps will be taken, some we want to announce now. First, we are sponsoring a blockchain meetup in Berlin in which we will discuss Lisk’s advancements of the past month right at the start of every event. Second, we are registering and setting up our own delegate on the Lisk network. All delegate rewards will be evenly split between all lightcurve employees and freelancers with no active delegate spot. It’s up to the community if enough votes are gathered to get into the top 101, Oliver and I will vote with our private LSK exclusively for the lightcurve delegate.
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November 08, 2017, 05:50:07 PM
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I was buying additional Lisk for the last weeks when price was lower and have already more than 4000. It gets me some nice rewards with voting every month.
Lisk will go above 100 dollars in one or two years. Daytraders who want fast money will not win. I advise to buy and hold.
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November 08, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
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Lisk is doing great today. The price is already more than 31,50% up and stants now at 6,43dollar. And even this price is cheap, because there are so many things the dev is working on. In one year the price will be at 60 Dollar.
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