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[Nxtblg]

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

Then it's best to hold on for the long term. You're not forced to sell.

[Omega.SportSciencie]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

At least the Lisk idea sounds more promising than creating another ripple useless platform.

[instacalm]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

Thank you for your valuable opinion...!

[traumschiff]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

[ATA Group]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

Right, and for the "market makers" its easy to dump the coin extremely hard to buy it even cheaper.
So expect a lose of half of your BTC after the launch!

[boltz]

uhu almost 12k btc

[Omega.SportSciencie]

The only thing that will decide if this ico goes up after it ends is wether if the devs spend some hundreds of btcs they got from the people to pump it, or if they just run away with all his stack and also dump their 5-10 mmillion waves

That is what this is all about, so beg them to not be so greedy.

[traumschiff]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

At least the Lisk idea sounds more promising than creating another ripple useless platform.

You probably missclicked when searching for the LISK thread.

[traumschiff]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

Right, and for the "market makers" its easy to dump the coin extremely hard to buy it even cheaper.
So expect a lose of half of your BTC after the launch!

Do you even understand what the topic of this discussion was originally and what I responded to? Your response makes 0 sense.

[ATA Group]

The only thing that will decide if this ico goes up after it ends is wether if the devs spend some hundreds of btcs they got from the people to pump it, or if they just run away with all his stack and also dump their 5-10 million lisk

That is what this is all about, so beg them to not be so greedy.

I am not sure if they even can access their BTC at the time.. escrow ...

[windjc]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

Right, and for the "market makers" its easy to dump the coin extremely hard to buy it even cheaper.
So expect a lose of half of your BTC after the launch!

Do you even understand what the topic of this discussion was originally and what I responded to? Your response makes 0 sense.

This guy is trolling you.

Anyone who understands ICOs knows that Waves will not be dumped at launch. Lol. I invested in Lisk and Waves. Lisk had WAY more people looking for a quick dump. The average IQ of the average Lisk investor was one of the lowest I have ever seen in a crypto community, and that is saying alot.

[traumschiff]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

Right, and for the "market makers" its easy to dump the coin extremely hard to buy it even cheaper.
So expect a lose of half of your BTC after the launch!

Do you even understand what the topic of this discussion was originally and what I responded to? Your response makes 0 sense.

This guy is trolling you.

Anyone who understands ICOs knows that Waves will not be dumped at launch. Lol. I invested in Lisk and Waves. Lisk had WAY more people looking for a quick dump. The average IQ of the average Lisk investor was one of the lowest I have ever seen in a crypto community, and that is saying alot.

Yup, he is either trolling or extremely stupid.

[JollyTrades]

Guys are you drunk!?

Alright, the ICO ends and a lot of people want to cash out. But WHO DA FUCK wanna buy the coin right after the ICO!?
So guess what will happen with the price if even a small amount of people tries to cash out?!

Greetings

The big buys will come after a while, probably in summer when mainnet launches. Also lot of traders will miss the ico and when the uptrend happend big money jumps in.

Of course but not RIGHT after the ICO. So don't expect anything higher than your invested value in BTC right after the launch.

There won't be a delay, as the makers of Waves want to deliver. They don't really care about the price of Waves as they've already received their BTCs.

@ATA Group,

If I understand you correct in the first quote above, you also think Waves tokens will gain a bullish price momentum, but not right after the ICO. On the other hand, you say the team don't care about the price of the tokens in the second quote above. As far as your argument goes, a plausible conclusion would be that the team don't care about the first-days price, not that the team don't care about the price. Those are two different things, and while you argue for the first one, you seem to be eager to conclude it with the second one.

Also, you seem to rely on reasonable fundamental principles while saying that people want to cash out. And it also seems reasonable that a delay may create an additional demand to cause an increase in the opening. However, your prediction that the price will fall to the half of the base cost sounds like a hasty conclusion, which escalates the argument quite quickly without any plausible effort.

Best,

Jian

[Haunebu81]

It's going to dump to below ICO prices? Why would people invest in an ICO, then immediately sell for a loss during the first few days it comes out? What am I missing here?

[frosbik]

signed up for twitter and facebook so I'm on the list ? or they have a special table where you need to enter a twitter name and facebook ?

[ATA Group]

Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

Right, and for the "market makers" its easy to dump the coin extremely hard to buy it even cheaper.
So expect a lose of half of your BTC after the launch!

Do you even understand what the topic of this discussion was originally and what I responded to? Your response makes 0 sense.

This guy is trolling you.

Anyone who understands ICOs knows that Waves will not be dumped at launch. Lol. I invested in Lisk and Waves. Lisk had WAY more people looking for a quick dump. The average IQ of the average Lisk investor was one of the lowest I have ever seen in a crypto community, and that is saying alot.

Yup, he is either trolling or extremely stupid.

I'll quote myself later.

Guys are you drunk!?

Alright, the ICO ends and a lot of people want to cash out. But WHO DA FUCK wanna buy the coin right after the ICO!?
So guess what will happen with the price if even a small amount of people tries to cash out?!

Greetings

The big buys will come after a while, probably in summer when mainnet launches. Also lot of traders will miss the ico and when the uptrend happend big money jumps in.

Of course but not RIGHT after the ICO. So don't expect anything higher than your invested value in BTC right after the launch.

There won't be a delay, as the makers of Waves want to deliver. They don't really care about the price of Waves as they've already received their BTCs.

@ATA Group,

If I understand you correct in the first quote above, you also think Waves tokens will gain a bullish price momentum, but not right after the ICO. On the other hand, you say the team don't care about the price of the tokens in the second quote above. As far as your argument goes, a plausible conclusion would be that the team don't care about the first-days price, not that the team don't care about the price. Those are two different things, and while you argue for the first one, you seem to be eager to conclude it with the second one.

Also, you seem to rely on reasonable fundamental principles while saying that people want to cash out. And it also seems reasonable that a delay may create an additional demand to cause an increase in the opening. However, your prediction that the price will fall to the half of the base cost sounds like a hasty conclusion, which escalates the argument quite quickly without any plausible effort.

Best,

Jian

Yes they don't care about the first day price as they don't even hold a lot waves. They are absolutely not interested in the opening price of waves. Ergo they are not interested in what most of the participants of the ICO want, fast money like LISK.

Yes its probably hasty to assume the price will fall down to half of the ICO price. But don't forget a lot of people are not experienced in trading and don't act reasonable. Moreover for a third of all participants the ICO price is 20% lower as they received a first day bonus. So its reasonable to assume that the price will fall below ICO.

Why?

Because there is not demand for waves as everyone who wanted some waves already bought them.

[instacalm]

@ATA Group: Make way for the positive day! Have a good one, heh!

[KhalDrago]

It's going to dump to below ICO prices? Why would people invest in an ICO, then immediately sell for a loss during the first few days it comes out? What am I missing here?

lol doesnt make sense right, its a stupid analogy. Those who have listened to Sasha interview know wassup tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eiv93mM_rE&t=13m0s

[mxxxxxx]

I was contemplating today on this idea and looking for the answer to some questions.

1.   Can financial incentive be created to provide service where you can pay your bills with crypto ?
2.  Will there be a demand for such market ?
3.  Could it be fully implemented on Waves or any other similar kind platform (with tokens/coins and fiat integration)?

Would be interesting to know your thoughts.

I think we should be looking much further than just paying bills, there are some services already enabling you to pay bills with crypto.

Mycelium for example is after complete management/financial suite with blockchain technology working in background.

Waves fiat tokens will be integrated in Mycelium wallet so many nice options above Waves itself to come for sure. There can be some unique cashback programs built on blockchain also.

Many financial institutions can be integrated above payment providers if they only wish. Asset-asset trading and fiat assets backed directly by gateways bring many possibilities.

[Trade_BTC]

I was contemplating today on this idea and looking for the answer to some questions.

1.   Can financial incentive be created to provide service where you can pay your bills with crypto ?
2.  Will there be a demand for such market ?
3.  Could it be fully implemented on Waves or any other similar kind platform (with tokens/coins and fiat integration)?

Would be interesting to know your thoughts.

I think we should be looking much further than just paying bills, there are some services already enabling you to pay bills with crypto.

Mycelium for example is after complete management/financial suite with blockchain technology working in background.

Waves fiat tokens will be integrated in Mycelium wallet so many nice options above Waves itself to come for sure. There can be some unique cashback programs built on blockchain also.

Many financial institutions can be integrated above payment providers if they only wish. Asset-asset trading and fiat assets backed directly by gateways bring many possibilities.

So basically waves is f**king awesome.