Dragon's Tale - a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG/Casino

[Lexington]

Where can I go for game tech support?

I created an account but when i click on the "I have bitcoins tell me where to send them" link, it says 'processing' for a few seconds and then returns to the menu.

[teppy]

I was just doing some work on that part today - I may have introduced a bug.
You can contact me at 1-800-498-3004 or 1-412-973-7914 and I'll be able to tell what's going wrong.

Teppy

This is now fixed, thanks.
Teppy

[DELTA9]

Learned about dragon's tale from a banner on Mt Gox..

Having trouble getting it started on WIN7. I downloaded the installer from dragons.tl and opened up ATITD just fine, but when I change the selection to dragon's tale, the egenesis client freezes up. Has anyone else experienced this?

[teppy]

Contact me at either of the above phone numbers and I'll try to help. (If you call today, use the 1-412-973-7914 number.)

[Lexington]

I am running it on win 7

I had to go into the properties of the exe file and set it to "run as administrator"

This prevented the freezing.

[teppy]

We shouldn't require admin rights, so although this may work, I'd like to understand what is different about WIndows 7...

Are you changing elaunch.exe to administrator rights, or eclientc.exe? If the later, then the file egenesis.bug from the install directory will be helpful.

[Lexington]

I forgot the file name.  I will check that and the bug log when I get home.  Will send you the info.

[Lexington]

We shouldn't require admin rights, so although this may work, I'd like to understand what is different about WIndows 7...

Are you changing elaunch.exe to administrator rights, or eclientc.exe? If the later, then the file egenesis.bug from the install directory will be helpful.

I gave admin rights to elaunch.exe

The bug log can be downloaded here http://www.voodoovelvet.com/egenesis.bug

[tomdetroit]

Hi everyone

Play the demo.. seems interesting although i haven't play to much..

I'm really interested in playing a new MMORPG but since if found online poker and online gambling I havent to much time left
Cause if I really start a new one I will spend way to many hours and even days in it That was always the case
Can't handle myself right!! hihi

[Kayos88]

Found this game through another forum. Been playing almost every day for a month now. I'm "wat" in the game. Hope to see some of you in the game
More info and download here http://www.dragons.tl/

[Electrongolf]

I think this is a pretty cool idea. I would love to see this include different ways to earn coin. Maybe games based on skill.

[GamblingPurveyor]

Is this guy openly operating an online casino from the US? He's got some serious balls.

[nhodges]

Is this guy openly operating an online casino from the US? He's got some serious balls.

I think it's still in the fuzzy area since it's not recognized as an official currency by the US (correct me if I'm wrong) so this is still just gaming? Online MMORPGs allow you to place wagers and receive payouts on in-game money, no?

[GamblingPurveyor]

I was under the impression it was illegal to gamble anything of value. Remember that casinos use chips because the Mafia attempted the same dodge once upon a time. Casino chips aren't money, therefore it's not really gambling, right?

[marhjan]

I think this is a pretty cool idea. I would love to see this include different ways to earn coin. Maybe games based on skill.

There are several games which include some skill (fishing in the mill ponds, feather balance, beetle races.)  There is still luck involved in these, but using proper strategy is quite helpful.  You could also try herb hunting - which is more about time and being observant than anything else.

[teppy]

There are two main pieces of Federal legislation that deal with gambling: The "'Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006'' which deals with funding gambling accounts, accepting or extending credit for purposes of funding gambling accounts, transmission of money by wire for that purpose, etc. The full text of the law is here:

  http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Federal-Laws/UIGEA-Text.htm

There's a catch-all that would allow the Federal Reserve Board of Governors to write a regulation declaring that Bitcoins are a money transmission mechanism, but they haven't done this yet.

There is also the original "Federal Wire Wager Act", which only deals with bets on sporting events.

Finally, there are Pennsylvania laws to be aware of, but those deal with places of gambling, and manufacture of gambling equipment. Interestingly, there's a special exemption for manufacturing playing cards in PA, but no exemption for dice.

I suppose that you might make a case that "programming" is manufacturing, or that a 3D virtual world is a place, but that doesn't seem to be the intent of the law. If that were so, every MMORPG with trade-able items and an element of luck (IOW, all MMORPGs), would be violating the PA law to the same extent.

[marhjan]

There was a major jackpot hit in Dragon's Tale today - someone won 376BTC on a 2BTC bet.  Not too shabby, the best part is that person 'made it rain' and spread a bunch of BTC around.  If you guys haven't checked this out, it's pretty good and you can get started without putting anything in to start - get free bitmills (0.001BTC) from the soldiers to start your gambling exploits.

I'm not affiliated with the owner/design team in anyway, but have been having a lot of fun messing around, and actually earned a few bitcoins today after the big jackpot.

[fsvo]

Are the games in this game based on pure chance or are skill/bot aspects involved, e.g King.com

Words like "advance" and "success" got me interested but I assume I did an optimistic interpretation? 

"RPG where your character advances by success at games of chance"

[teppy]

About half the games are pure luck, and half blend skill with luck, similar to the way poker blends skill and luck.

The really huge jackpots like the one last night tend to be in the luck based games, of course, but there are some players that stick just to the skill games.

I'll do a more thorough write-up on the Wiki about how the skill-based games work, but basically it's like this: The payouts of a particular type of game are fixed, but the cost-to-play varies. The server adjusts the cost-to-play such that the game returns 95% to players overall (plus up to 3% Dragon's Treasure.) So essentially the skill based games are indirectly PvP - the best players can consistently win those games that they are good at.

Most of the skill based games cost 0.01+ BTC per play, though there's a very low-stakes "Rice Pond" just southeast of town center. Rice Pond is a perfect introduction to a simple skill-based game. There's a video explaining the game on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1iKY0VHKQQ

[Merrick]

Good to see you outside of the game, Peter.

I'd just like to second Peter's sentiment. It's a very addicting and fun game once you find someone to show you around.