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Standing MotoGP after 8 races:


  
1) Dovizioso  115    gap
2) Vinales     111     -4
3) Rossi        108     -7
4) Marquez   104    -11

5) Pedrosa     87     -28
6) Zarco        77     -38
7) Petrucci     62     -53
8 ) Lorenzo    60     -55
9)Crutchlow   58     -57
10)Folger      51     -64

4 riders in only 11 points, already 5 different winners, 10 riders each race can go up the podium. Great balance and show this year in MotoGP!
Fantastic Valentino Rossi (38 years old) who returns to victory and can try to win his tenth world championship.

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Fernando Alonso team radio:"It's a shame , we could have won this race"

Best part of the race yesterday. It was a clear message to Honda that Mclaren drivers and fans have had enough of the GP2 engine. Time for an upgrade Honda.

Well at least he got 2 points, it will not be a 0 anymore for the end of the season. Today it was one of the most entertaining races, a really chaotic race, very different from the monotonous other races like the Monaco one. I like this kind of races where it's unpredictable what will happen.

Also I think Alonso was being a little bit sarcastic with that comment.

Of course it was.  It's him giving a little jab on Honda for not giving them a good engine this season.  And this is the final year of his contract with McClaren, so it's safe to assume that he will be leaving and be with another team next year.  Maybe he'll be back with Ferrari, who knows.

One thing's for sure tho, he expected to fight for a driver's championship when he signed on with McClaren...  Nope!   

[BitcoinSupremo]

Fernando Alonso team radio:"It's a shame , we could have won this race"

Best part of the race yesterday. It was a clear message to Honda that Mclaren drivers and fans have had enough of the GP2 engine. Time for an upgrade Honda.

Well at least he got 2 points, it will not be a 0 anymore for the end of the season. Today it was one of the most entertaining races, a really chaotic race, very different from the monotonous other races like the Monaco one. I like this kind of races where it's unpredictable what will happen.

Also I think Alonso was being a little bit sarcastic with that comment.

Of course it was.  It's him giving a little jab on Honda for not giving them a good engine this season.  And this is the final year of his contract with McClaren, so it's safe to assume that he will be leaving and be with another team next year.  Maybe he'll be back with Ferrari, who knows.

One thing's for sure tho, he expected to fight for a driver's championship when he signed on with McClaren...  Nope!    

We , all the fans of Mclaren did think so when McLaren rejoined Honda as distant memories of the 1989 year came back to us and we thought that we would dominate again like that year where all races were won by a single team , McLaren. Apparently Honda this time did screw up big time and the worst thing is they are not recovering at all, their engine it is still a failure after three years they are back in F1. Alonso is right to leave the team based on such weak performance from McLaren-Honda.

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Standing MotoGP after 8 races:


  
1) Dovizioso  115    gap
2) Vinales     111     -4
3) Rossi        108     -7
4) Marquez   104    -11

5) Pedrosa     87     -28
6) Zarco        77     -38
7) Petrucci     62     -53
8 ) Lorenzo    60     -55
9)Crutchlow   58     -57
10)Folger      51     -64

4 riders in only 11 points, already 5 different winners, 10 riders each race can go up the podium. Great balance and show this year in MotoGP!
Fantastic Valentino Rossi (38 years old) who returns to victory and can try to win his tenth world championship.

I love Valentino Rossi this season. He really showed very high fighting power, he showed that he was a true champion. Although already aging but he is still a strong competitor for young riders like Vinales and Marquez. Gap points also showed how excited moto gp this season. Vinales changed teams to yamaha and immediately showed his skills.

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Standings Drivers after 8 races:

Vettel          153    gap
Hamilton     139     -14
Bottas         111     -42
Ricciardo      92      -61
Raikkonen    73      -80
Verstappen   45    -108
Perez           44    -109
Ocon            35    -118
Sainz           29    -124
Massa          20    -133



Standings Teams after 8 races:

Mercedes   250     gap
Ferrari       226    -24
Red Bull     137  -113
Force India  79  -171
Williams      37  -213
Toro Rosso  33  -217
Haas           21  -229
Renault       18  -232
Sauber         5   -245
McLaren       2   -248


Now it is a real battle between Vettel and Hamilton both on the track and outside!
For the "teams" World Championship, Mercedes is favored because Raikkonen in every GP has problems with his car

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Fernando Alonso team radio:"It's a shame , we could have won this race"

Best part of the race yesterday. It was a clear message to Honda that Mclaren drivers and fans have had enough of the GP2 engine. Time for an upgrade Honda.

Well at least he got 2 points, it will not be a 0 anymore for the end of the season. Today it was one of the most entertaining races, a really chaotic race, very different from the monotonous other races like the Monaco one. I like this kind of races where it's unpredictable what will happen.

Also I think Alonso was being a little bit sarcastic with that comment.

Of course it was.  It's him giving a little jab on Honda for not giving them a good engine this season.  And this is the final year of his contract with McClaren, so it's safe to assume that he will be leaving and be with another team next year.  Maybe he'll be back with Ferrari, who knows.

One thing's for sure tho, he expected to fight for a driver's championship when he signed on with McClaren...  Nope!    

We , all the fans of Mclaren did think so when McLaren rejoined Honda as distant memories of the 1989 year came back to us and we thought that we would dominate again like that year where all races were won by a single team , McLaren. Apparently Honda this time did screw up big time and the worst thing is they are not recovering at all, their engine it is still a failure after three years they are back in F1. Alonso is right to leave the team based on such weak performance from McLaren-Honda.

Honda was having a bit of progress tho when you compare their work last year with the season before that.  This season was supposed to be a breakthrough year for the McClaren-Honda partnership, propping them up to compete and dominate the second tier teams.  Sadly they're back to square one. 

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This weekend the Motogp runs to Sachsenring in Germany.
On this track the big favorite is surely Marc Marquez who has always won since 2010.

Daniel Pedrosa can also fight for the podium.
I think Dovizioso will lose the top of the World Championships.

After this race there will be a pause of about 1 month!  the next race will be August 8

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Here are the first 10 times of FP1 in Gp of Sachsenring:

1 A. DOVIZIOSO 1:21.599
2 M. VIÑALES       +0.038
3 D. PEDROSA      +0.190
4 A. ESPARGARO  +0.233
5 A. BAUTISTA     +0.241
6 M. MARQUEZ     +0.299
7 J. ZARCO           +0.374
8 D. PETRUCCI      +0.393
9 J. MILLER           +0.469
10 S. REDDING      +0.476

These times may already be decisive because rain is expected throughout the weekend.

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Here are the first 10 times of FP1 in Gp of Sachsenring:

1 A. DOVIZIOSO 1:21.599
2 M. VIÑALES       +0.038
3 D. PEDROSA      +0.190
4 A. ESPARGARO  +0.233
5 A. BAUTISTA     +0.241
6 M. MARQUEZ     +0.299
7 J. ZARCO           +0.374
8 D. PETRUCCI      +0.393
9 J. MILLER           +0.469
10 S. REDDING      +0.476

These times may already be decisive because rain is expected throughout the weekend.

iam not believeable, andrea dovizioso can compete with honda repsol team and yamaha team
i think this season competition world camphionshop can competitive not only yamaha vs honda, but ducati can compete with dovi

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Here are the first 10 times of FP1 in Gp of Sachsenring:

1 A. DOVIZIOSO 1:21.599
2 M. VIÑALES       +0.038
3 D. PEDROSA      +0.190
4 A. ESPARGARO  +0.233
5 A. BAUTISTA     +0.241
6 M. MARQUEZ     +0.299
7 J. ZARCO           +0.374
8 D. PETRUCCI      +0.393
9 J. MILLER           +0.469
10 S. REDDING      +0.476

These times may already be decisive because rain is expected throughout the weekend.

iam not believeable, andrea dovizioso can compete with honda repsol team and yamaha team
i think this season competition world camphionshop can competitive not only yamaha vs honda, but ducati can compete with dovi

Dovizioso is doing an incredible season especially seeing the bad results of his team-mate Lorenzo.
But V. Rossi, Vinales and Marquez are much stronger riders than him.
He is first in the standings because he has achieved the maximum result until now, while Marquez, Vinales (they both fell twice) and V. Rossi (he fell on the last lap when he was struggling for victory) lost so many points.
He can get on the podium in this championship but will hardly win it

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Here are the starting positions of the Sachsenring Gp:

1. Marquez
2. Petrucci
3. Pedrosa
4. Crutchlow
5. Folger
6. Lorenzo
7. P. Espargaro
8. A. Espargaro
9. Rossi
10. Dovizioso
11. Vinales
...
19. Zarco.



Marquez is the big favorite and after this race he can go first in the championship standings.
If it rains, Petrucci and Crutchlow can climb the podium

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I must admit that i enjoy both watching motogp2 and motogp races both were phenomenal great driving from both classes drivers. Still championship in motogp never been so open now with upcoming break it will take time to focus for next part of championship.

Full race result for MotoGP

1.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   40m   59.525s   
2.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   41m   2.835s   
3.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   41m   11.071s   
4.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   41m   13.778s   
5.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   41m   14.505s   
6.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   41m   16.059s   
7.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   41m   19.261s   
8.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   41m   19.713s   
9.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   41m   20.663s   
10.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   41m   23.735s   
11.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   41m   25.184s   
12.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   41m   31.065s   
13.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   41m   31.704s   
14.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   41m   35.978s   
15.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   41m   37.296s   
16.   Mika Kallio   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   41m   37.377s   
17.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   41m   38.848s   
18.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   41m   40.715s   
19.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   41m   59.375s   
20.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   42m   1.189s   
21.   Alex Rins   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   42m   1.220s   
Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   DNF   
Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   DNF   
Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   DSQ   

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Standing MotoGP after 9 of 18 races:


1)Marquez     129    gap
2)Vinales       124     -5    
3)Dovizioso   123      -6
4)Rossi         119    -10
5)Pedrosa     103    -26
    
6)Zarco         84      -45
7)Folger        71      -58
8 )Petrucci     66      -63
9)Lorenzo      65      -64
10)Crutchlow 64      -65

We arrived mid-season in Motogp. The next gp will be in 1 month.
Is the most balanced world championship ever, with 4 riders in only 10 points (5 in 26 points). The most disappointing riders was definitely Lorenzo.

[pereira4]

Standing MotoGP after 8 races:


  
1) Dovizioso  115    gap
2) Vinales     111     -4
3) Rossi        108     -7
4) Marquez   104    -11

5) Pedrosa     87     -28
6) Zarco        77     -38
7) Petrucci     62     -53
8 ) Lorenzo    60     -55
9)Crutchlow   58     -57
10)Folger      51     -64

4 riders in only 11 points, already 5 different winners, 10 riders each race can go up the podium. Great balance and show this year in MotoGP!
Fantastic Valentino Rossi (38 years old) who returns to victory and can try to win his tenth world championship.

I think Valentino Rossi is going to show his experience in the remaining races and win the tenth world championship. He doesn't want to retire without getting the nice round 10 number, that is a dream for any racer and he doesn't have many years left to try.

[BitcoinSupremo]

I didn't like that much the last race at Sachsenring in Germany in MotoGP this last Sunday. In this track it has been a lot of years that Marquez wins consecutively, it is a Honda friendly track, Yamaha with Rossi couldn't do much, also Maverick Vinales did not do a great race. Very few overtaking compared to other MotoGp races. The only guy who tried to challenge the Honda was Folger but his inexperience costs him the win of this races as he did many consecutive errors at turn 1 of this track. The only good thing is that 4 racers are within just 11 points difference from each other fighting for the championship, making MotoGp interesting to watch during the remaining races.

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Looks like this will be a feisty race between Vettel and Hamilton after what happened between the two.  I think this is just the beginning, the British Grand Prix is where the real action will be since Vettel knows Hamilton wants to win his home race at all costs.

Good luck with your bets!  Here's the time table for this weekend's race.

The Austrian GP 2017
All times are local (Austria is GMT +2)

Thursday July 6
15:00: FIA press conference

Friday July 7
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00: FIA press conference

Saturday July 8
11:00 – 12:00: Third free practice
14:00 – 15:00: Qualifying
15:00: FIA post-qualifying press conference

Sunday July 9
14:00 – 16:00: Austrian GP
16:00: FIA post-race press conference

 
2017 Austrian Grand Prix | F1 Fast Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8MZqWCK6DA

[cicciobtc]

Looks like this will be a feisty race between Vettel and Hamilton after what happened between the two.  I think this is just the beginning, the British Grand Prix is where the real action will be since Vettel knows Hamilton wants to win his home race at all costs.

Good luck with your bets!  Here's the time table for this weekend's race.

The Austrian GP 2017
All times are local (Austria is GMT +2)

Thursday July 6
15:00: FIA press conference

Friday July 7
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00: FIA press conference

Saturday July 8
11:00 – 12:00: Third free practice
14:00 – 15:00: Qualifying
15:00: FIA post-qualifying press conference

Sunday July 9
14:00 – 16:00: Austrian GP
16:00: FIA post-race press conference

 
2017 Austrian Grand Prix | F1 Fast Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8MZqWCK6DA

I see the mercedes favorites on this "stop & go" circuit.
The Mercedes won the last 3 editions while Vettel never came on the podium on this track.
 Hamilton can then retrieve points for the world championship

[Bitinity]

Standing MotoGP after 8 races:


  
1) Dovizioso  115    gap
2) Vinales     111     -4
3) Rossi        108     -7
4) Marquez   104    -11

5) Pedrosa     87     -28
6) Zarco        77     -38
7) Petrucci     62     -53
8 ) Lorenzo    60     -55
9)Crutchlow   58     -57
10)Folger      51     -64

4 riders in only 11 points, already 5 different winners, 10 riders each race can go up the podium. Great balance and show this year in MotoGP!
Fantastic Valentino Rossi (38 years old) who returns to victory and can try to win his tenth world championship.

I think Valentino Rossi is going to show his experience in the remaining races and win the tenth world championship. He doesn't want to retire without getting the nice round 10 number, that is a dream for any racer and he doesn't have many years left to try.

Thats a big dream and Rossi needs to work very hard to get the dream but I dont think that he does not want to retire till he win his 10th world championship. This season is much more harder than previous seasons because he needs to compete with some others Riders, unlike previous seasons where there are only 2-3 riders who were competing for the championship title.

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Who will win the world championship in MotoGp?

Standings after 9 of 18 races:

1)Marquez     129    gap
2)Vinales       124     -5    
3)Dovizioso   123      -6
4)Rossi         119    -10
5)Pedrosa     103    -26


Marquez  at quote@2.10
Vinales    at quote@3.25
Rossi       at quote@5.00
Dovizioso at quote@7.50
Pedrosa  at quote@20.00


For me the fight is between Marquez, Vinales and Rossi.
With this great balance for me the favorite is V. Rossi who has great experience and wants to win his tenth world championship.

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Alonso continues his descent into frustration and madness because of the underperforming car. The team and the driver are really upset at each other. The driver because he is always complaining (with a valid reason) and the team because he is too outspoken about the car being trash.

It's unfortunate and I hope next year he can get a better car and fight for the tournament.