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September 14, 2016, 04:51:39 PM
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I'm in! Great! Smiley Now time to play before tomorrow.


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September 14, 2016, 04:52:35 PM
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Dont forget what I have sent you in a PM ;-) (Genesis Account)
And note, that the POW verification is dummy for the moment (submit POW or bounties with test_*.sh scripts) ... until we have the miner ready.

EDIT: and please oversee some UI glitches which I will hopefully fix this night.At the moment I am still working on miner and POW verification parallely.
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September 14, 2016, 04:54:22 PM
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Dont forget what I have sent you in a PM ;-) (Genesis Account)
And note, that the POW verification is dummy for the moment (submit POW or bounties with test_*.sh scripts) ... until we have the miner ready.
Nice. Some XEL to actually do something Smiley Thanks!

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September 14, 2016, 05:13:59 PM
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Nice, I like this experiment and open community here !

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September 14, 2016, 08:46:49 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2016, 09:09:48 PM by unvoid
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If you are one of the donators and you want to know if you own XEL go to:
https://github.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/blob/master/genesis-block.json
or
http://elasticexplorer.org/share/donators.json
Don't go to http://elastic.pro/ and don't search there for your address because there are placed only addresses that participated in voting.



If you want to try XEL ( Elastic ):

Download testnet client https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-reference-client.
Best if you download it trough git for future easy updates. Install git on your machine and:

git clone https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-reference-client.git

Watch this video for instructions how to run it https://player.vimeo.com/video/178616474?quality=1080p and paste your address here to receive some XEL for testing and fun.

For Windows you have to run compile.bat to compile and run.bat to start XEL.



If you want to try out a miner:

1. Download it from: https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-miner
Best if you download it trough git for future easy updates. Install git on your machine and:

git clone https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-miner.git

2. ./compile.sh
3. ./run.sh
4. Give it your passphrase (after you hit a key make sure visible XEL address is yours)
5. Give it a XEL running daemon IP address (default localhost)
6. Hit enter and submit work to the network in your XEL client UI as shown here https://player.vimeo.com/video/178616474?quality=1080p. If someone else will submit work to the network your miner will automatically start working on it.
7. Example work are here https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-reference-client/tree/master/elasticpl_examples. no_bounties_found.epl will not found any bounty! Be warned that this is debug job that will just expire after 250 blocks without any submissions.

Suggestions:

run miner with lower cpu priority for optimal experience. Especialy if you running miner on the same machine that you running XEL node.

i. e.

Code:
screen nice -n 20 ./run.sh
20 is lowest possible priority in most linux env.



If you want to update XEL to the newest version:

Stop your node (CTRL + C)
Go to main directory of XEL and:
Code:
git pull origin master
./compile.sh
rm -rf nxt_test_db/
screen ./run.sh



If you want to update miner to the newest version:

Stop your miner (CTRL + C)
Go to main directory of miner and:
Code:
git pull origin master
./compile.sh
screen nice -n 20 ./run.sh

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September 15, 2016, 11:19:24 AM
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Please tell, how much time left  to launch mainnet?
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September 15, 2016, 12:03:46 PM
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Please tell, how much time left  to launch mainnet?

When there are 3 weeks no new bugs in the new version of the testnet (which will be released today).
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September 15, 2016, 01:44:41 PM
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The testnet is almost ready, I will test for ~2 hours locally and then release it!

Note to the devs in here:
We need a better (more easy to understand) miner with multiple "policies" such as "mining the work with greatest bounty fund", "mining with best POW reward", "etc."


Also, we need to have a thread where we can put specific development questions up for discussion. Like this one here:

Can you all please check if the POW target value retargetting mechanism makes sence?
We aim for having 10 POW submissions per block, so we average over the last 3 blocks and calculate a "factor" by which the POW target value is scaled (the value is capped at 25% up or down).
Any obvious flaws with this?

POWRETARGET_N_BLOCKS = 3 ... 3 blocks sliding window
POWRETARGET_POW_PER_BLOCK_SCALER = 10 ... 10 POW submissions per block


Code:
public static BigInteger calculateNextMinPowTarget(long lastBlockId) {

System.out.println("entrance");
// First check in cache
BigInteger cached = powDifficultyLRUCache.get(lastBlockId);
if(cached != null)
return cached;

// Genesis specialty
if (lastBlockId == 0)
return Constants.least_possible_target;

Block b = Nxt.getBlockchain().getBlock(lastBlockId);

// try to cycle over the last N blocks, or - if height is smaller -
// over entire blockchain
int go_back_counter = Math.min(Constants.POWRETARGET_N_BLOCKS, b.getHeight());
int original_back_counter = go_back_counter;

// ... and count the number of PoW transactions inside those blocks
int pow_counter = 0;
BigInteger last_pow_target = b.getMinPowTarget();
while (go_back_counter > 0) {
pow_counter += b.countNumberPOW();
b = b.getPreviousBlock();
go_back_counter -= 1;
}

// scale up if there are not yet N blocks there, avoids MADNESS
if(original_back_counter<Constants.POWRETARGET_N_BLOCKS){

double scaledCounter = (double)pow_counter;

scaledCounter = scaledCounter / (1.0*original_back_counter);
scaledCounter = scaledCounter * Constants.POWRETARGET_N_BLOCKS;

pow_counter = (int)scaledCounter;
}

// if no PoW was sent during last n blocks, something is strange, give
// back the lowest possible target
if (pow_counter == 0){
pow_counter = 1; // dirty ugly fix
}

// Check the needed adjustment here, but make sure we do not adjust more
// than * 2 or /2.
// This will prevent huge difficulty jumps, yet it will quickly
// (exponentially) approxiamate the desired number
// of PoW packages per block.
BigDecimal new_pow_target = new BigDecimal(last_pow_target);
double factor = (double)(Constants.POWRETARGET_N_BLOCKS * Constants.POWRETARGET_POW_PER_BLOCK_SCALER) / (double)pow_counter; // RETARGETING

System.out.println("Retargetting: Had POW " + pow_counter + " should be " + ((Constants.POWRETARGET_N_BLOCKS * Constants.POWRETARGET_POW_PER_BLOCK_SCALER)) + ", scaling by factor " + factor);
// limits, we do not want to change the target too CRAZY at once
if (factor > 1.25)
factor = 1.25;
if (factor < 0.75)
factor = (double) 0.75;

BigDecimal factorDec = new BigDecimal(factor);

// Apply the retarget: Adjust target so that we again - on average -
// reach n PoW per block
new_pow_target = new_pow_target.multiply(factorDec);
BigInteger converted_new_pow = new_pow_target.toBigInteger();

if(converted_new_pow.compareTo(Constants.least_possible_target)==1) converted_new_pow = Constants.least_possible_target;
powDifficultyLRUCache.set(lastBlockId, converted_new_pow);
return converted_new_pow;
}
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September 15, 2016, 02:30:58 PM
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Please tell, how much time left  to launch mainnet?

When there are 3 weeks no new bugs in the new version of the testnet (which will be released today).
Awesome job EK and other developers. You guys proved lots of spectators wrong ! This project is unique and as develops, more and more demand will follow .

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September 15, 2016, 03:05:48 PM
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Please tell, how much time left  to launch mainnet?

When there are 3 weeks no new bugs in the new version of the testnet (which will be released today).
Awesome job EK and other developers. You guys proved lots of spectators wrong ! This project is unique and as develops, more and more demand will follow .

Yes, I must admit the devs here do a really good job. It's quite impressive especially when looking at other projects in which the progress is zero (or nearly zero), or bugs are never resolved, or the devs run away, or not responding at all, or, or, etc... On the other hand, Lannister seems to be not responsive at all, ie. the ANN page is still not updated and looks awful, webpage doesn't exist, no marketing/PR/promo. I wonder if he's going to be more active in the future, anyone knows ...?
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September 15, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
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I have no coding skills but it's really good to watch you.
I'm having fun  Cheesy Cheesy

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September 15, 2016, 03:48:07 PM
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I have no coding skills but it's really good to watch you.
I'm having fun  Cheesy Cheesy

Me too, they are very professional, althoug i am not a coder, i am still very happy with their talkings.
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September 15, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
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The new version of the testnet is not released yet! I am still testing several things like blockchain reorganization and stuff like that! I will write a release post once I think that we can start testing in public. Also, some very little UI things are still missing.

... however ...


For those who want a small sneak peek: Account with passphrase "test" has 265,000.00 Testnet-XEL in it.
Grab it if you like on the public node: http://ec2-52-57-31-137.eu-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com:6876/ Tongue

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September 15, 2016, 04:15:16 PM
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The new version of the testnet is not released yet! I am still testing several things like blockchain reorganization and stuff like that! I will write a release post once I think that we can start testing in public. Also, some very little UI things are still missing.

... however ...


For those who want a small sneak peek: Account with passphrase "test" has 265,000.00 Testnet-XEL in it.
Grab it if you like on the public node: http://ec2-52-57-31-137.eu-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com:6876/ Tongue



While the page loads, it's "NXT Wallet" shown on the tab's header (after the spinning wheel), and then (after a second or two) it's replaced with "Elastic Wallet" once the login page is fully loaded.
Checked on Chrome only
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September 15, 2016, 04:18:07 PM
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While the page loads, it's "NXT Wallet" shown on the tab's header (after the spinning wheel), and then (after a second or two) it's replaced with "Elastic Wallet" once the login page is fully loaded.
Checked on Chrome only

[master 41a5559] fix website title, thanks forum
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September 15, 2016, 04:22:01 PM
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Awesome job guys, you are killing it. Smiley

Between Lannister has been unresponsive for a long time and he is not logging in the forum since 8 days but he moved funds yesterday, so, he's still active. https://blockchain.info/address/1NazcPCGqSK5peSTDFKsaSWeFbBQz32kiB .
Have you been in touch with him EK lately?
Would be awesome if he posts here a recap of the project status (and eventually pay the bug bounty winners).

Cheers!

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September 15, 2016, 04:45:12 PM
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Have you been in touch with him EK lately?

Without wanting to dig too much into what Lannister does, I have contacted him yesterday on behalf of a member here (we all are having big issues with bitmessage somehow) who then received 5 BTC in exchange for his awesome work so far and his bug hunting in the first testnet. I would also appreciate if he was involved a bit more in this thread, but even if he does not write, he is there  Wink  
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September 15, 2016, 04:49:06 PM
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Have you been in touch with him EK lately?

Without wanting to dig too much into what Lannister does, I have contacted him yesterday on behalf of a member here who then received 5 BTC in exchange for his awesome work so far and his bug hunting in the first testnet. I would also appreciate if he was involved a bit more in this thread, but even if he does not write, he is there  Wink 

Appreciate Lannister still being available and also the honoring of Unvoid's work. Thats good news!
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September 15, 2016, 04:56:32 PM
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Have you been in touch with him EK lately?

Without wanting to dig too much into what Lannister does, I have contacted him yesterday on behalf of a member here (we all are having big issues with bitmessage somehow) who then received 5 BTC in exchange for his awesome work so far and his bug hunting in the first testnet. I would also appreciate if he was involved a bit more in this thread, but even if he does not write, he is there  Wink  

Glad to hear that, I am gonna leave him a positive feedback, for what it is worth. Smiley

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September 15, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
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Hi EK, question about ElasticPL.  I understand that the verify command identifies what work meets the bounty critieria, but what qualifies that the other pow work actually took place.  For example, in your good.epl, obviously only hashes beginning with 32 bits of zero meet the bounty, but what shows that the pow submissions were actual hashes for that block header and that one miner has higher hashrate than another?  Or in the elastic world are all miners equal regardless of how much work they do?

I'd like to look into epl and the miner a bit more, so I'm trying to better understand how this works.
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