[ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer

[syclone]

A lot of good logo's out there.... good community effort.   

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[wood7]

A lot of good logo's out there.... good community effort.   

Yes,many logo are very nice!

[clivemy]

Firstly I will setup a crowd fund raising; Where we at least have to bring in 200 BTC with the community so we establish a strong foundation to pay devs, pr, website and other costs.

Are you joking ? 200 BTC ( $360,000 ) to get a nice website ??! Don't you see everyone working here as a volunteer ? We , as a community, might seem divided but in reality we all care for this project and are well united to do the right thing and we don't need a $360,000 website. Meantime, you're welcome to join our team as a volunteer .

200 BTC is not for JUST a website. read it again. forget it, let me bullet point it for you. it is to

* Pay Devs (current and future Devs we might need to help EK)
* PR campaign (publish articles, twitter campaign, BTC sig campaign etc)
* Website (to build professional elastic website, to run elastic forum, elastic reddit & elastic slack)
* Other (Pay listing fees to exchanges like bittrex)

So what I see from several community member is a NO, but not coming with an alternative solution. Guys if we want this project to succeed we really have to start adding value to it. By skills, knowledge and funds.

This 200 BTC will be indeed used for many things such as stated above. And there will be a lot of costs which are unseen at the moment but where we need funds for. 200BTC is still not that much, its an start of creating a strong foundation from where we can start building the project.
The funds can be held by several trusted members in the community.

Another sure thing is that we need an manager who will steer the ship. It can be me or someone else who think he can do the job in a great way. And for this task I think its very appropriate the person get something in return for his efforts. Just like it is appropriate that the people who will build the website, write content, do marketing and the devs all get something in return for their efforts. By creating the foundation, we can pay everybody for all their hard work. I think this is more then normal.

Looking forward to the reply's and hope we can make this happen, I think it will boost the project in an very positive way to the right direction.

I personally like twistelaar's suggestion, but I must qualify that I don't have any BTC to donate to a foundation, and even though right now I'm currently helping to recode the ElasticPL engine, I don't personally want to be part of running a foundation...I'm just in the background and may help out as / when I have time and the interest to do so.

The idea of a foundation has been around for a while and hasn't gotten any traction, but it's very clear that this project needs some sort of leadership.  I don't think EK can be any clearer about his stance on this issue, but it seems everyone keeps looking to him to run this project.

Since a vote will shortly take place as to whether we release with a lite wallet, MVP or full featured product, I don't think there's any desire to raise the 200 BTC for a foundation, when there may well be funds from XEL going on the exchanges.

Or did you miss that bit of the discussions?

[HomoHenning]

professionals always getting paid for their work. therefore we really need some kind of fund or foundation. 200BTC is a good start.
This could be done by a multisig address by twistelaar and other big community members.

But a requirement for this is a light wallet release because people could donate XEL or BTC gainings to the foundation/fund. I think without any release not many people would donate their BTC.
This approach would be similar to IOTA. They also had the problem that there was no premine for devs and development.

[Redawn]

professionals always getting paid for their work. therefore we really need some kind of fund or foundation. 200BTC is a good start.
This could be done by a multisig address by twistelaar and other big community members.

But a requirement for this is a light wallet release because people could donate XEL or BTC gainings to the foundation/fund. I think without any release not many people would donate their BTC.
This approach would be similar to IOTA. They also had the problem that there was no premine for devs and development.

We shoukd donate to unvoid and ek. These guys are heros

[bitcoinpaul]

I would love this thread to just be dead. Please, move over to the real forum to structure ur discussions and let people choose which topic they want to read. And which not.

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org

[Redawn]

We shoukd donate to unvoid and ek. These guys are heros

Yes, but some people prefer to donate with XEL, not BTC.

We can raise BTC to a select view devs. Those who already made something.

[Redawn]

We shoukd donate to unvoid and ek. These guys are heros

Yes, but some people prefer to donate with XEL, not BTC.

We can raise BTC to a select view devs. Those who already made something.

Can someone list the people who already made something for XEL.  Just to be clear..

[clivemy]

We shoukd donate to unvoid and ek. These guys are heros

Yes, but some people prefer to donate with XEL, not BTC.

We can raise BTC to a select view devs. Those who already made something.

Can someone list the people who already made something for XEL.  Just to be clear..

That would go into the double digits over the course of the project.

[tomkat]

BTC donated to devs work more as a short term payout for work. With XEL stakes, stakeholders have long term incentive, so donating XEL is much better option.
That's why transferable token would be more attractive not only to devs, but also for other people interested in long term perspective of the project.
Early donators could also fund anything without a need for formal structure, dump to market and get out, or buy more, burn, or whatever they wish...

If anyone wants to wait, then just do nothing - what's the difference with lite wallet or without it?

Let's make a decision to not end up as myspace of supercomputing projects.

[twistelaar]

professionals always getting paid for their work. therefore we really need some kind of fund or foundation. 200BTC is a good start.
This could be done by a multisig address by twistelaar and other big community members.

But a requirement for this is a light wallet release because people could donate XEL or BTC gainings to the foundation/fund. I think without any release not many people would donate their BTC.
This approach would be similar to IOTA. They also had the problem that there was no premine for devs and development.

Yes, I think we should really take an example of how IOTA brought the community together, raised A LOT of money to build a very strong foundation. They are more alive then ever and it is one of the most promising projects. After the first raising there was another crowd raising from the community which was HUGE and just recently another $ 2 million was raised.

Lets take an example from this and start contributing instead of complaining. Together we have the power to create something great. I think each community member should AT LEAST GIVE 10% of their XEL to the foundation or contribute in BTC.

I'm ready to assist where I can assist.

Number 1 goal for now is to start raising funds for the foundation.

I'm patient enough to wait for the full release, so I would suggest to create the foundation in BTC.
However there are people in the community who prefer to donate in XEL.  This is something we have to discuss further, if we create an asset for example or an lite client.

[twistelaar]

I support the foundation idea by twistelaar. I'm researching what it takes to register/run a foundation for my own project and was going to offer to work on this together. I think the 200 BTC was just as a suggestion, not a required target. I'd be willing to donate a good % of XEL to a foundation to spur and reward innovation accordingly.

So to summarize: I think foundation will create a lot of good value for this project.

I see two options:

1. Accept BTC to fund and reward a solid launch with working MVP

2. Release light client and accept XEL to fund and reward a solid fork with working MVP

In fact these two options would be good candidates for a vote, assuming that community agrees on getting a foundation setup.

I think the best is that we just start to vote which option the majority of the community desires.

[syclone]

Just read the other forum... I hope we don't go around EK to prematurely launch XEL... lets keep communication open. 

[twistelaar]

voting, lite wallet, mainnet, full functionality launch or a simple logo. We want to just best and we are discussing how can do this. Everyone says own ideas. This is good things.
Everyone want to best for Elastic with no doubt. We can discuss anything with respect and we need to be open minded for any possibilities, don't be upset or angry for that.

I have technically skills. If you want I can make a new website (on my free time), I can publish a lot of nodes (mainnet or testnet whatever), I can test to hardening. But I cant develop with EK our Elastic Code because I Dont know Java PL. I don't have good English writing or speaking. I can't write our technically document, I cant write blog post. But somebody can do.
But all of this about best for elastic.

I dont like a lot of talk, I just tried to work / contribute to Community. (elastic.pw,wallet.elastic.pw,node2.elastic.pw,some blog posts, and a lot of time etc.Ty for bought domain @cyberhacker)

I don't want to be rude but I need to say.
Talk is cheap guys, Just do it for Community.

If you want to see wallet.elastic.pw with testnet, I will. I can transfer domains and some accounts (Elastic.pw, Elastic-Coin twitter, Elastic Community Github ) to who want to. pm me.
I don't want to post anymore about anything, if you need something I can help with around of my abilities,  pm me.
Thanks, Community. I know we are the best Community.

Hi By Rallier!

Can you please start working on creating a website for Elastic?

Im sure you will be compensated for you work sooner or later.

Please let me know if and when you start and would be great if you post your progress so we can give some feedback.

Can another community member start helping By Rallier with the content of the website? As far I understand he needs help with the content writing. The person who can do this, please PM By Rallier and start working on the website, once the foundation is created we will compensate you. The foundation will come, the question is only when.

So any volunteers for the content writing for now?

Thanks!

[devking]

@byrallier I think both @techwriterjoe and @clivemy are offering services for tech writing. Engage them

[cryptodv]

I support the foundation idea by twistelaar. I'm researching what it takes to register/run a foundation for my own project and was going to offer to work on this together. I think the 200 BTC was just as a suggestion, not a required target. I'd be willing to donate a good % of XEL to a foundation to spur and reward innovation accordingly.

So to summarize: I think foundation will create a lot of good value for this project.

I see two options:

1. Accept BTC to fund and reward a solid launch with working MVP

2. Release light client and accept XEL to fund and reward a solid fork with working MVP

In fact these two options would be good candidates for a vote, assuming that community agrees on getting a foundation setup.

I think the best is that we just start to vote which option the majority of the community desires.

Hope we do this soon, can't stall this project any longer....we need positive forward progression, with the devs and community on the same page.

[tiddy]

Just read the other forum... I hope we don't go around EK to prematurely launch XEL... lets keep communication open. 

Yes,maybe EK wants to be decided by the community, too.

[clivemy]

@byrallier I think both @techwriterjoe and @clivemy are offering services for tech writing. Engage them

Hi Devking, by rallier.  I'm happy to write any content you want.  I'm just going through previous comments to dig out information about what Elastic is capable of doing.

[Evil-Knievel]

I would make sure that not 10 people start making 10 websites at once! I lost track of it, but it feels like we have multiple websites at the moment.
Maybe doing one on github would be the best first step? We already have a repository for it, don't we? Just the content is missing.

[superhelper]

Really a nice project. Good luck!