[ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer

[HunterMinerCrafter]

Guess who's back in town?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=245263
Does he know he is more than invited to visit?

Thanks! It is nice to be noticed!  

I've been lurking, and still following the progress of XEL closely week to week.  Unfortunately I can't say that I've been particularly happy to see where it has been headed, personally.  IMO the decision to partially re-centralize with bonded master-nodes and the decision to launch a "lite wallet" token are both likely mis-steps.

Having 0 stake in XEL it is obviously not my business, but I had held high hopes... and now I have little but worry for E-K's work ever making it out into the world in a form that is anything like what he would have really intended.

I've been thinking a lot, lately, about a the idea of a relatively simple variant of the earlier XEL design which might address several of the concerns with the model, particularly with regard to the PoW rewards.  It would eschew a dedicated programming language, in favor of a machine model, but at the same time make for a more consistent work calculation and allow for some additional assurances.  It may not be something I ever pursue further but I am ever more convinced (though still not quite 100%) that the whole thing might even actually be possible after all.

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[chinadaye]

Guess who's back in town?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=245263
Does he know he is more than invited to visit?

Thanks! It is nice to be noticed!  

I've been lurking, and still following the progress of XEL closely week to week.  Unfortunately I can't say that I've been particularly happy to see where it has been headed, personally.  IMO the decision to partially re-centralize with bonded master-nodes and the decision to launch a "lite wallet" token are both likely mis-steps.

Having 0 stake in XEL it is obviously not my business, but I had held high hopes... and now I have little but worry for E-K's work ever making it out into the world in a form that is anything like what he would have really intended.

I've been thinking a lot, lately, about a the idea of a relatively simple variant of the earlier XEL design which might address several of the concerns with the model, particularly with regard to the PoW rewards.  It would eschew a dedicated programming language, in favor of a machine model, but at the same time make for a more consistent work calculation and allow for some additional assurances.  It may not be something I ever pursue further but I am ever more convinced (though still not quite 100%) that the whole thing might even actually be possible after all.

Hope to bring groundbreaking ideas, we all look forward to your appearance, you are xel can not be missing one of the team members

[Bgjjj2016]

the press section on the website seems abandoned (maybe removed?) and the blog post about what happened with Lannister and the ICO funds is OK for transparency but not the first one people read obviously 

I personally think the Lannister story should not be there. No relevance at this time . We have much better articles ( I hope ) to write instead.

agree and these should be fixed before launch. we are not prepared for launch that's why i voted no I hope all is OK otherwise people will mark it as scam/too far fetched etc

We just need to fix the website. Hope By rallier and clivemy give us some insight on how we could help, otherwise all is OK ! 

[MiningSev0]

We should also update our OP - since we can't because we don't have Lannisters Account. I suggest to create a new one.
Just because Websites like Coinmarketcap always refer to the bitcointalk OP - and of you read the last pages of our thread - there is much confusion.

And to not be another "hey-you-should-do-this"-guy I would do this, but before I would like to ask what you think about this idea.

[ImI]

Yes, its time to move. I'll open up a new thread.

Edit: Ok, lets move! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957064

Eventually we could get this thread locked?

[2bfree]

What exchange are you on?

[clivemy]

the press section on the website seems abandoned (maybe removed?) and the blog post about what happened with Lannister and the ICO funds is OK for transparency but not the first one people read obviously 

I personally think the Lannister story should not be there. No relevance at this time . We have much better articles ( I hope ) to write instead.

agree and these should be fixed before launch. we are not prepared for launch that's why i voted no I hope all is OK otherwise people will mark it as scam/too far fetched etc

We just need to fix the website. Hope By rallier and clivemy give us some insight on how we could help, otherwise all is OK ! 

I've answered your question on the new thread, here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957064.msg19437336#msg19437336

[tomkat]

Guess who's back in town?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=245263
Does he know he is more than invited to visit?

Thanks! It is nice to be noticed!  

I've been lurking, and still following the progress of XEL closely week to week.  Unfortunately I can't say that I've been particularly happy to see where it has been headed, personally.  IMO the decision to partially re-centralize with bonded master-nodes and the decision to launch a "lite wallet" token are both likely mis-steps.

Having 0 stake in XEL it is obviously not my business, but I had held high hopes... and now I have little but worry for E-K's work ever making it out into the world in a form that is anything like what he would have really intended.

I've been thinking a lot, lately, about a the idea of a relatively simple variant of the earlier XEL design which might address several of the concerns with the model, particularly with regard to the PoW rewards.  It would eschew a dedicated programming language, in favor of a machine model, but at the same time make for a more consistent work calculation and allow for some additional assurances.  It may not be something I ever pursue further but I am ever more convinced (though still not quite 100%) that the whole thing might even actually be possible after all.

I guess with masternodes you mean so called SNs (supernodes), right? Well, I didn't like them too. Not sure if it's possible at all at this stage, but perhaps with your support, it could be possible to think it over again, and get rid of those special nodes.

[unvoid]

Do not bump this thread. New thread is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957064.new#new

[laiguozheshijie]

my computer is windows 10*64，when I click''run'' ,its flashed!

[harvw]

Can XEL be bought OTC? If so, then please direct me to the relevant thread.

Thanks in advance.

[harvw]

Can XEL be bought OTC? If so, then please direct me to the relevant thread.

Thanks in advance.

Want to buy XEL. PM me with offers.

[instantlink99]

you want to sell XEL. pm me!

[Redawn]

you want to sell XEL. pm me!

This thread is closed fir news see;

For buying/selling;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804795.new;topicseen#new
Or
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/wtb-wts-elastic/346/41

For the latest talks;
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/

For the latest talks on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957064.new#new

[LamboMoonYacht]

This thread isn't really closed, but they'd like to hide it since the OP (Lannister) disappeared with the XEL donation money. They'd prefer if you post in their self-moderated thread so they can delete any posts that remind people of their scam:

http://archive.is/zoyYa

Status of Lannister and the ICO funds

April 15, 2017 by Unvoid

Lannister is gone. ICO funds are gone. We don’t know why. We don’t know if we ever see him again. It’s not like “he took all the funds and run away” because before disappearing he rewarded some of community members with some BTC for their work. He mentioned that he have some health problems also. That’s all we know now.

Now they have ANOTHER anonymous dev (surprise!) who could just as easily do the same thing. For all we know it may be the same guy.

Agreed this is one of the clearest examples of a scam I've seen in recent times. Well done for trying to warn people about it. It started with a newbie account whose real-life name was supposedly "Lionel Keys" posting as ElasticCoin. Immediately a few of us pressed for some kind of info to verify his identity (given it was an ICO without escrow), which he said would be coming soon. In the mean time I began finding Evil-Knievel's behaviour in the thread extremely suspicious. He wasn't (publicly) in charge of the probject at this point but from the start was shilling hard (talking about how much he'd invested) and answering the bulk of the questions that were intended for the dev. It was obvious to me he was involved with the project whilst pretending not to be.

Every post from the ElasticCoin account was subsequently deleted from that thread (presumably when they realized they'd messed up and that there was no way to hide how shady the whole thing was), Lionel Keys disappeared (abandoning a project he'd supposedly spent months working on and preparing) and Evil-Knievel suddenly emerged as project lead.

I haven't enough time to dig through it, but here's the original thread. Evil-Knievel has also deleted every single post he made in that thread, though enough of his and ElasticCoin's original posts have been preserved in quotes in replies to show you what's going on here.

Deleted original ANN:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362006.0

Quote from: Evil-Knievel on February 19, 2016, 09:46:04 AM

-snip-

I am currently invested in this coin with a total of 6.8799 BTC.

A very clear scam.

[techwriterjoe]

You don't know what you are talking about.

This thread isn't really closed, but they'd like to hide it since the OP (Lannister) disappeared with the XEL donation money. They'd prefer if you post in their self-moderated thread so they can delete any posts that remind people of their scam:

http://archive.is/zoyYa

Status of Lannister and the ICO funds

April 15, 2017 by Unvoid

Lannister is gone. ICO funds are gone. We don’t know why. We don’t know if we ever see him again. It’s not like “he took all the funds and run away” because before disappearing he rewarded some of community members with some BTC for their work. He mentioned that he have some health problems also. That’s all we know now.

Now they have ANOTHER anonymous dev (surprise!) who could just as easily do the same thing. For all we know it may be the same guy.

Agreed this is one of the clearest examples of a scam I've seen in recent times. Well done for trying to warn people about it. It started with a newbie account whose real-life name was supposedly "Lionel Keys" posting as ElasticCoin. Immediately a few of us pressed for some kind of info to verify his identity (given it was an ICO without escrow), which he said would be coming soon. In the mean time I began finding Evil-Knievel's behaviour in the thread extremely suspicious. He wasn't (publicly) in charge of the probject at this point but from the start was shilling hard (talking about how much he'd invested) and answering the bulk of the questions that were intended for the dev. It was obvious to me he was involved with the project whilst pretending not to be.

Every post from the ElasticCoin account was subsequently deleted from that thread (presumably when they realized they'd messed up and that there was no way to hide how shady the whole thing was), Lionel Keys disappeared (abandoning a project he'd supposedly spent months working on and preparing) and Evil-Knievel suddenly emerged as project lead.

I haven't enough time to dig through it, but here's the original thread. Evil-Knievel has also deleted every single post he made in that thread, though enough of his and ElasticCoin's original posts have been preserved in quotes in replies to show you what's going on here.

Deleted original ANN:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362006.0

Quote from: Evil-Knievel on February 19, 2016, 09:46:04 AM

-snip-

I am currently invested in this coin with a total of 6.8799 BTC.

A very clear scam.

[dumple]

This thread is closed for news. See:

For buying/selling;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804795.new;topicseen#new
Or
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/wtb-wts-elastic/346/41

For the latest talks;
https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/

For the latest talks on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957064.new#new

[klintay]

Can XEL be bought OTC? If so, then please direct me to the relevant thread.

Thanks in advance.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804795

and here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971613

[LamboMoonYacht]

This thread is still open for discussion of the XEL scam and the shady behavior of other XEL contributors:

http://archive.is/zoyYa

Lannister, originally the project lead, collected "ICO" funds for XEL and then disappeared with the money:

Status of Lannister and the ICO funds

April 15, 2017 by Unvoid

Lannister is gone. ICO funds are gone. We don’t know why. We don’t know if we ever see him again. It’s not like “he took all the funds and run away” because before disappearing he rewarded some of community members with some BTC for their work. He mentioned that he have some health problems also. That’s all we know now.

Now they have ANOTHER anonymous dev (surprise!) who could just as easily do the same thing. For all we know it may be the same guy.

Their original launch was also extremely suspicious and the creator of that thread has disappeared mysteriously (noticing a pattern here?):

Agreed this is one of the clearest examples of a scam I've seen in recent times. Well done for trying to warn people about it. It started with a newbie account whose real-life name was supposedly "Lionel Keys" posting as ElasticCoin. Immediately a few of us pressed for some kind of info to verify his identity (given it was an ICO without escrow), which he said would be coming soon. In the mean time I began finding Evil-Knievel's behaviour in the thread extremely suspicious. He wasn't (publicly) in charge of the probject at this point but from the start was shilling hard (talking about how much he'd invested) and answering the bulk of the questions that were intended for the dev. It was obvious to me he was involved with the project whilst pretending not to be.

Every post from the ElasticCoin account was subsequently deleted from that thread (presumably when they realized they'd messed up and that there was no way to hide how shady the whole thing was), Lionel Keys disappeared (abandoning a project he'd supposedly spent months working on and preparing) and Evil-Knievel suddenly emerged as project lead.

I haven't enough time to dig through it, but here's the original thread. Evil-Knievel has also deleted every single post he made in that thread, though enough of his and ElasticCoin's original posts have been preserved in quotes in replies to show you what's going on here.

Deleted original ANN:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362006.0

[cyberhacker]

would you plz calm down? 

we are willingly "scamed" by this great project.

plz.  most contributors are feeling very comfortable with current situation and future.

don't bother taking care of us.