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February 14, 2018, 10:07:39 AM
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It seems that the developers remain silent on the development of the project. Maybe they have some kind of plan about which we do not know. The presence of any news could significantly revive the project. Developers hear us!

go slack channel, dev is handing out abuse there on a daily basis....between that and working they are too busy to post here Smiley

Ok, I finally decided to check that mythical slack channel to get some updates, but what I've seen there is .... just plain nothing   Shocked
So, to those who constantly advice to check slack for updates - don't create impression that there're lots of updates since there's nothing special going on there.
EK isn't that active too - he's just posting not-so-important stuff from time to time.

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February 14, 2018, 03:39:44 PM
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It seems that the developers remain silent on the development of the project. Maybe they have some kind of plan about which we do not know. The presence of any news could significantly revive the project. Developers hear us!

go slack channel, dev is handing out abuse there on a daily basis....between that and working they are too busy to post here Smiley

Ok, I finally decided to check that mythical slack channel to get some updates, but what I've seen there is .... just plain nothing   Shocked
So, to those who constantly advice to check slack for updates - don't create impression that there're lots of updates since there's nothing special going on there.
EK isn't that active too - he's just posting not-so-important stuff from time to time.

Or maybe since the last update he has given he is still working on the same things? What update do you expect? A daily "I am still working on coding the computation engine".

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February 14, 2018, 05:05:59 PM
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It seems that the developers remain silent on the development of the project. Maybe they have some kind of plan about which we do not know. The presence of any news could significantly revive the project. Developers hear us!

go slack channel, dev is handing out abuse there on a daily basis....between that and working they are too busy to post here Smiley

Ok, I finally decided to check that mythical slack channel to get some updates, but what I've seen there is .... just plain nothing   Shocked
So, to those who constantly advice to check slack for updates - don't create impression that there're lots of updates since there's nothing special going on there.
EK isn't that active too - he's just posting not-so-important stuff from time to time.

Or maybe since the last update he has given he is still working on the same things? What update do you expect? A daily "I am still working on coding the computation engine".

Yeah yeah right, you know, I don't expect anything anymore, just please don't redirect those poor users to slack for updates while there're no updates available there.

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February 14, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
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It seems that the developers remain silent on the development of the project. Maybe they have some kind of plan about which we do not know. The presence of any news could significantly revive the project. Developers hear us!

go slack channel, dev is handing out abuse there on a daily basis....between that and working they are too busy to post here Smiley

Ok, I finally decided to check that mythical slack channel to get some updates, but what I've seen there is .... just plain nothing   Shocked
So, to those who constantly advice to check slack for updates - don't create impression that there're lots of updates since there's nothing special going on there.
EK isn't that active too - he's just posting not-so-important stuff from time to time.

Or maybe since the last update he has given he is still working on the same things? What update do you expect? A daily "I am still working on coding the computation engine".

Yeah yeah right, you know, I don't expect anything anymore, just please don't redirect those poor users to slack for updates while there're no updates available there.

Or maybe the last update is still being worked and when something changes you will be updated. Relevant updates are in Slack, just because there hasn't been one for a while doesn't mean things aren't progressing or there are "no updates", just the same update is being worked on. Very simple to me. I might guess the next update will come when the computation engine is nearly complete or complete.

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 #3105

Do you remember how nice and challenging the discussions have been here around two years ago? Many brilliant and outstanding minds were brainstorming productively about how things can be made better, about flaws in the initial designs and constantly improved upon all the little challenging design questions that emerged as time progressed? Well, that was the time where the passion and the fun developing this thing were gaining new heights every day. This is also when it was fun to share the latest discoveries and expose them to public discussion.

Things unfortunately rapidly changed with the recent growth of the crypto bubble which seems to have attracted a very special specimen of mankind and almost killed even the last spark of passion that all these wonderful crypto projects deserve. Yes, I am talking about these self-proclaimed "investors", those who buy a token from some other guy and just don't understand that the only think they did was to simply buy a token from some random third party on the internet. Instead, they really believe they have some shares, voting rights or whatever in some company which does not exist. Lol, I mean they really believe that when they buy a Diet Coke from a street vendor (not even from Coca Cola itself) in the Central Park, they can show up at the next Coca Cola board meeting, pretend to be "investors" and make all sorts of demands. This is crazy! Besides, these people have just one agenda - get rich quick. And to achieve that, they hang around the slack channel like fucking vultures trying to make everyone work according to their schedule. The schedule of course only has one objective - increasing their own benefit. The progress of the project isn't even on their radar, that's why they would be also fine with updates that are no real updates at all - as long as you can use them to hype (or scare away) the crowd ...

If you happen to be in a good mood and give an update, those people immediately exploit your good will to use that information in some pump (or dump) schemes - for example in those telegram groups. This, how could it be different, just multiplies the problem and drags in more of these guys. Some have been fooled by those pump groups, some want to pump even more - so they come to the channel again (each one with different motives) and press hard to force the "long time lurkers" into doing some stupid things that they think might become beneficial to them. The one wants "marketing", the other an "update", yet another wants commitments - but none of them really wants the project lol.  

You won't believe how blunt these requests are. What these people just don't understand is: nobody will be doing any of this crap, nobody will listen to any random selfish requests and nobody will support any pumps on telegram groups! Every single request like "give me update! I am an investor" is just a waste of the time typing these words. It's just as if your dog stood up on his hind legs and said "fuck this shit! I'm outta here!". It just won't happen.

Since this is the dominating picture at the moment, I am sure that it is forgivable that those people, who once were so passionately engaged in this, dodge the bullet and run for the hills. What do you expect. I am almost finished and it is my personal goal to finish that (in my eyes very sophisticated) system as we have discussed it. But really, with these second generation crypto people around, I will make sure to not focus any less on making a good documentation so that someone else (with stronger nerves) can adopt what I have done and hopefully improve upon it.

I am by the way not generalising this, I know that most of you guys are honest and that your heart is in the right place. The problem is that even if only 1% are like this (so out of 10.000 slack users, 100 go nuts), it is already enough to kill any remaining attraction - it must be the negativity bias!
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February 15, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
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@EK, the problem is numbers, there were always dickheads in crypto, and proportionately maybe slightly more now, but the problem is the size of the crypto community has grown, and the dickheads are always louder, so they stick out more as numbers increase.

If you go to a party with 10 people and one person is obnoxious it's probably going to be ok, if there are 10 wankers at a party of 100 people the proportion is the same, but the vibe will be a lot worse (the other 90 people get drowned out). If there are 100 dickheads in a room of 1000 people you'll probably get assaulted  and spat on. 1000 pricks in a town of 10000 - that's literally a war zone, people getting raped and mugged in broad daylight.

My advice is do what you said above, finish the work you started and do a Satoshi, come back with a new identity as a regular community member, don't be the front man anymore.
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February 16, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
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I don't know how to explain this feeling, but somehow I feel a tiny bit more clever after reading your post. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

I also feel ashamed for being part of this group you mentioned even though I wouldn't consider myself this type of "investor".
I decided to get involved and learn about blockchains and cryptocurrencies on September, then found some projects that I liked and since then I've "invested" in them by buying, holding and writing a good word of encouragement to the team now and then. I wish I could do more but all I know is HTML, PHP, some basic SQL and VBA, I can't offer technical help to any project.

Did the potential of money lured me in? Yes... but in no way I would throw my principals out of the window in order to get rich fast. I want to live a simple life and have a safenet of money in cryptocurrencies.
At the moment I'm "crunching" scientific projects for a better world instead of "mining" for money using BOINC. Great project in case people would want to support it.

Since I'm new to the forums, I don't know about you Knievel. What is the project you're saying you're working on? Elastic? The idea sounds intresting and I'd like to get involved.

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February 17, 2018, 01:51:04 AM
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Thanks for the update EK, with as many scams as I've witnessed and gone through since 2013, it's always nice to get periodic updates and appearances from the main devs just to instill some confidence in us donators.   

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February 17, 2018, 04:13:03 PM
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Hi guys, I just saw that more than half of all XEL (50,698,500 of 89,390,937) are on the BitTrex account (XEL-AQVJ-PPCK-QJYJ-8T65V)  Roll Eyes
It's bad practice and undermines the idea of decentralization... please think about it if you have your XEL on BitTrex and consider putting it on a private account.
Have a nice weekend!
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February 17, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
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Nice post EK, it's not only Elastic's problem, almost every projects have the same problem. And you can't imagine what's goin on with projects which held an ICO, the very same type of people that you described perfectly are calling scams everywhere because their tokens didn't make a 10X in value after a couple weeks. It's exactly how you described, they buy some token/coin or join an ICO and they feel entitled to put pressure on developers so they can sell their tokens/coins for a profit. But you know what? Don't worry, these people are eventually going to lose their money because they see only some kind of speculative game and they don't see the real thing, the revolution that guys like you are starting

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February 17, 2018, 08:45:37 PM
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Do you remember how nice and challenging the discussions have been here around two years ago? Many brilliant and outstanding minds were brainstorming productively about how things can be made better, about flaws in the initial designs and constantly improved upon all the little challenging design questions that emerged as time progressed? Well, that was the time where the passion and the fun developing this thing were gaining new heights every day. This is also when it was fun to share the latest discoveries and expose them to public discussion.

Things unfortunately rapidly changed with the recent growth of the crypto bubble which seems to have attracted a very special specimen of mankind and almost killed even the last spark of passion that all these wonderful crypto projects deserve. Yes, I am talking about these self-proclaimed "investors", those who buy a token from some other guy and just don't understand that the only think they did was to simply buy a token from some random third party on the internet. Instead, they really believe they have some shares, voting rights or whatever in some company which does not exist. Lol, I mean they really believe that when they buy a Diet Coke from a street vendor (not even from Coca Cola itself) in the Central Park, they can show up at the next Coca Cola board meeting, pretend to be "investors" and make all sorts of demands. This is crazy! Besides, these people have just one agenda - get rich quick. And to achieve that, they hang around the slack channel like fucking vultures trying to make everyone work according to their schedule. The schedule of course only has one objective - increasing their own benefit. The progress of the project isn't even on their radar, that's why they would be also fine with updates that are no real updates at all - as long as you can use them to hype (or scare away) the crowd ...

If you happen to be in a good mood and give an update, those people immediately exploit your good will to use that information in some pump (or dump) schemes - for example in those telegram groups. This, how could it be different, just multiplies the problem and drags in more of these guys. Some have been fooled by those pump groups, some want to pump even more - so they come to the channel again (each one with different motives) and press hard to force the "long time lurkers" into doing some stupid things that they think might become beneficial to them. The one wants "marketing", the other an "update", yet another wants commitments - but none of them really wants the project lol.  

You won't believe how blunt these requests are. What these people just don't understand is: nobody will be doing any of this crap, nobody will listen to any random selfish requests and nobody will support any pumps on telegram groups! Every single request like "give me update! I am an investor" is just a waste of the time typing these words. It's just as if your dog stood up on his hind legs and said "fuck this shit! I'm outta here!". It just won't happen.

Since this is the dominating picture at the moment, I am sure that it is forgivable that those people, who once were so passionately engaged in this, dodge the bullet and run for the hills. What do you expect. I am almost finished and it is my personal goal to finish that (in my eyes very sophisticated) system as we have discussed it. But really, with these second generation crypto people around, I will make sure to not focus any less on making a good documentation so that someone else (with stronger nerves) can adopt what I have done and hopefully improve upon it.

I am by the way not generalising this, I know that most of you guys are honest and that your heart is in the right place. The problem is that even if only 1% are like this (so out of 10.000 slack users, 100 go nuts), it is already enough to kill any remaining attraction - it must be the negativity bias!

this is what crypto's world need! More post like this!
I know, money are important, but the idea, the potentiality behind the crypto's world can be unimaginable.

I have xel, since months right now. I keep waiting. We are in good hands, i know. Don't give up, please!

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