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February 03, 2013, 07:45:31 AM
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An "Avalon unit" includes every component in the box with fans. The contents of that box are irrelevant. If they say it uses 450W, and it uses 620W, then they are fucking liars. Plain and simple. "It's the power supply" is no more relevant than "it's the ASICs". The simple fact is that the shipped unit does not work as described.

But there is a simple explanation, they did not calculate in the phase angle between the current and voltage :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor

You need to multiply the marketing power consumption with 1.378 to end up with the real numbers :-)

(Yes I am joking)

Anyways, the supporting electronics like the motherboard, the PDU, fans and power supply itself will not use more than just a handfull of watts, more like 30 or 40 watts.

Don't forget that Jeff measured power consumption with the UPS included, our APC Matrix 3000 uses about 120 Watts to keep it's batteries afloat and run the electronics.
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February 03, 2013, 07:48:20 AM
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Don't forget that Jeff measured power consumption with the UPS included, our APC Matrix 3000 uses about 120 Watts to keep it's batteries afloat and run the electronics.

The measurement was taken with the Kill-A-Watt plugged into the UPS, and the miner plugged into the Kill-A-Watt.  In other words, the Kill-A-Watt was between the UPS and the miner.

Batteries and other miscellany are not included in that measurement.


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February 03, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
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Don't forget that Jeff measured power consumption with the UPS included, our APC Matrix 3000 uses about 120 Watts to keep it's batteries afloat and run the electronics.

The measurement was taken with the Kill-A-Watt plugged into the UPS, and the miner plugged into the Kill-A-Watt.  In other words, the Kill-A-Watt was between the UPS and the miner.

Batteries and other miscellany are not included in that measurement.



Does your kill-a-watt distinguish between apparent power and effective power? The amps going through the cable are the first one, but I guess you only pay the latter...
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February 03, 2013, 10:36:55 AM
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Batteries and other miscellany are not included in that measurement.
ah OK, the gossip floating around was incorrect, I should not have posted that.

You have a kill-a-watt that has a C14 inlet?
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February 03, 2013, 11:36:01 AM
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For the daredevils that paid the small amount earlier today and want to pay the full amount: check your browser history of earlier today for a link to bitwallet which contains https: // walletbit.com / pay ? token= (obviously without the spaces) and open that page again. You can pay the full amount and then prey....

No guarantees from my side, so don't shoot me if it fails!!!

I did it and I got the your paid BC 229 to Avalon confirmation page from walletbit and made a receipt:

Please wait, generating.
Item total 229.48540702 BTC
TOTAL 4,495.49 USD
Transaction 0b00c37f145fc7ebbe0626c99...
Time 11:23:35PM 02/02/2013

Then going back to the avalon side gave me store page without any further form to fill in.

AGAIN: DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK !!

Possibly the most insane thing I've heard anyone do recently.

So what if walletbit ignores your order? Are you going to forumsue with cookie printouts?

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February 03, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
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For the daredevils that paid the small amount earlier today and want to pay the full amount: check your browser history of earlier today for a link to bitwallet which contains https: // walletbit.com / pay ? token= (obviously without the spaces) and open that page again. You can pay the full amount and then prey....

No guarantees from my side, so don't shoot me if it fails!!!

I did it and I got the your paid BC 229 to Avalon confirmation page from walletbit and made a receipt:

Please wait, generating.
Item total 229.48540702 BTC
TOTAL 4,495.49 USD
Transaction 0b00c37f145fc7ebbe0626c99...
Time 11:23:35PM 02/02/2013

Then going back to the avalon side gave me store page without any further form to fill in.

AGAIN: DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK !!

Possibly the most insane thing I've heard anyone do recently.

So what if walletbit ignores your order? Are you going to forumsue with cookie printouts?
More and more people are doing it. I got a confirmation from Avalon that my order is OK :-) So not so insane after all!

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February 03, 2013, 01:17:06 PM
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Well, I have :sadface: and no order number or receipt.

To cheer myself up I mathed and updated last nights post with details that had been requested:

http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/02/99-asic-choices-avalon-update-2-by.html

  • Electricity costs for Eurpoe and California.
  • Lower power consumption figures for countries using 220 - 240 V mains.
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February 03, 2013, 01:21:45 PM
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Im a bit surprised by how many people tried ordering 3+ units today.  That's a lot of power to support.  I might be able to support 2 of them at home before I run into trouble but I'm not sure about 3.

I bet they are banking on scarcity to last for long enough so they can sell 1 or 2 at a profit.

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February 03, 2013, 01:34:19 PM
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Im a bit surprised by how many people tried ordering 3+ units today.  That's a lot of power to support.  I might be able to support 2 of them at home before I run into trouble but I'm not sure about 3.

I bet they are banking on scarcity to last for long enough so they can sell 1 or 2 at a profit.

I don't go to gigs anymore, so I didn't think I'd have to deal with ticket scalpers ever again. And yet here they are.

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February 03, 2013, 02:05:55 PM
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I spoke to a few people that where looking to purchase and resell. Could run them for a while before BFL gets there orders out.

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February 03, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
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I add a unit to my cart, click checkout, fill out my info, then click purchase...

All it says is:

"incorrect configuration, did you input your token?"

the FUCK?Huh

Nowhere to input token, no instructions on how to order...

Anyone know wtf to do?

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February 03, 2013, 04:11:34 PM
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I add a unit to my cart, click checkout, fill out my info, then click purchase...

All it says is:

"incorrect configuration, did you input your token?"

the FUCK?Huh

Nowhere to input token, no instructions on how to order...

Anyone know wtf to do?
Same for me. Maybe they fixed the store but item is not on sale yet.
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February 03, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
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Hurry up and take my money -_-

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February 03, 2013, 04:17:12 PM
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Have you tried this link? http://store.avalon-asics.com/?wpsc-product=avalon-asic-trade-in
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February 03, 2013, 04:18:27 PM
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same thing happens

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February 03, 2013, 04:50:44 PM
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create an account on the store site. then put your order in

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February 03, 2013, 04:56:14 PM
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Try http://shop-avalon-asic.pagodabox.com/?wpsc-product=avalon-asic-unit


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February 03, 2013, 04:58:28 PM
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create an account on the store site. then put your order in

To add more then 1 in the cart just hit add again for each unit you wish to order.

Edit: checkout limits you to 1

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February 03, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
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More and more people are doing it. I got a confirmation from Avalon that my order is OK :-) So not so insane after all!

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February 03, 2013, 05:19:36 PM
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More and more people are doing it. I got a confirmation from Avalon that my order is OK :-) So not so insane after all!

Whether something is insane or not is in no way affected by the eventual result. Thinking otherwise is a certificate of being 15 years old.

I thought you'd have to be crazy to use "insane" to describe an action instead of people. However:

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in·sane 
/inˈsān/
Adjective
1. In a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
2. (of an action or quality) Characterized or caused by madness.

Still, I'm the not sure DSM V includes as a definition of any of the various types of mental illness purchasing a high risk item from an online store that has recently functioned somewhat eratically using a payment processor that seems to have added to the problem.

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