[Avalon Asic] trade-in Thread

[AsicShill]

Batch #3 and chips guys got the biggest shaft from this guy.  We lost boards, few coins in mining which is relatively small loss.
Well, you probably lost a bit more since you paid this guy BTC16-17/board.

Until Yifu processes and ships (or refunds), everyone has not received anything is equally shafted.  It just happens that B3 refunders are shafted in 75 and 100BTC chunks and chip orders are shafted in 780 sized chunks.  I think chip orders will ship.  Who knows about refunds.

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[rudrigorc2]

Im waiting you handle 3 trade ins that are in my name.

damn, who are we dealing with here?

[yxt]

no mail, nothing added to my account. 

[tucenaber]

It's too late now to be worth it anyway.

By now I just want them to pay me for my Icarus boards. But I have no illusions that they actually will...

[HorseRider]

Yifu makes me remebered Nefario, the guys ran GLBSE. Started as a hero, ended as a scammer.

[greaterninja]

BEING PROCESSED
Trade-ins Please Sir ADD to Store Account #1476
Created on Tue, Aug 13 at 10:15 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Sir Please Add Trade-In to Store #1454
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:21 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1453
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:20 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1452
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:20 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1451
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:19 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1450
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:18 PM
BEING PROCESSED
Sir Please Add Trade-In to Store #1424
Created on Tue, Jul 30 at 2:50 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1409
Created on Wed, Jul 24 at 11:53 AM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1408
Created on Wed, Jul 24 at 11:51 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Hello Sir, Please add my trade-in to my store account. #1351
Created on Mon, Jul 15 at 11:01 AM
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[yxt]

@greaterninja

why are your wasting your time
They simply do not want.

[allinvain]

I am usually a calm and pretty laid-back guy but this is seriously testing my fucking patience! (pardon my french) Yifu (and the rest of the Avalon team), why you gotta treat your loyal customers like shit? Either send our units soon before they are totally worthless or send us back our Icarus/Lacellot units. For those of us who were foolish enough to pay you right away,how about you refund us? Do you think it's fair that all of us paid $250+ to ship you the FPGA units right away thinking you'd promptly deliver on your promises only so that you can turn around and screw us with delays and lack of communication? If you were in our shoes would you want to be treated this way? If you have any honor you'd do right by your loyal customers (who funded your little adventure), otherwise you're really nothing more than just an amateurish douchebag who can't act like an adult and take responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

If you want us to fuck off at the very least have the balls to tell us and then promptly return our property (icarus boards or btc payed to you) and we can all go our own separate ways. Many of us are loyal to your team but you are trampling over whatever respect and loyalty we have for you. You are not the hottest flavor of the month anymore so stop acting like you're too important to talk to us.

[server]

I am usually a calm and pretty laid-back guy but this is seriously testing my fucking patience! (pardon my french) Yifu (and the rest of the Avalon team), why you gotta treat your loyal customers like shit? Either send our units soon before they are totally worthless or send us back our Icarus/Lacellot units. For those of us who were foolish enough to pay you right away,how about you refund us? Do you think it's fair that all of us paid $250+ to ship you the FPGA units right away thinking you'd promptly deliver on your promises only so that you can turn around and screw us with delays and lack of communication? If you were in our shoes would you want to be treated this way? If you have any honor you'd do right by your loyal customers (who funded your little adventure), otherwise you're really nothing more than just an amateurish douchebag who can't act like an adult and take responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

If you want us to fuck off at the very least have the balls to tell us and then promptly return our property (icarus boards or btc payed to you) and we can all go our own separate ways. Many of us are loyal to your team but you are trampling over whatever respect and loyalty we have for you. You are not the hottest flavor of the month anymore so stop acting like you're too important to talk to us.

+1

But maybe we can use our "RMA-credits" for Next Gen (Zhang) Avalon hardware ?

[Raize]

I am usually a calm and pretty laid-back guy but this is seriously testing my fucking patience! (pardon my french) Yifu (and the rest of the Avalon team), why you gotta treat your loyal customers like shit? Either send our units soon before they are totally worthless or send us back our Icarus/Lacellot units. For those of us who were foolish enough to pay you right away,how about you refund us? Do you think it's fair that all of us paid $250+ to ship you the FPGA units right away thinking you'd promptly deliver on your promises only so that you can turn around and screw us with delays and lack of communication? If you were in our shoes would you want to be treated this way? If you have any honor you'd do right by your loyal customers (who funded your little adventure), otherwise you're really nothing more than just an amateurish douchebag who can't act like an adult and take responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

If you want us to fuck off at the very least have the balls to tell us and then promptly return our property (icarus boards or btc payed to you) and we can all go our own separate ways. Many of us are loyal to your team but you are trampling over whatever respect and loyalty we have for you. You are not the hottest flavor of the month anymore so stop acting like you're too important to talk to us.

Agreed. We've been abused by Yifu & Company. I gave them a glowing review at the time they first announced their first batch. The only reason I didn't buy in the first batch was because I *did* have trade-ins. Now look at how we're being treated. Send back our Icarus or give us a refund.

[yxt]

Maybe the only reason for the trade in program was that they needed our FPGAs for the control units 

[server]

Wonderfull Avalon news for the special ones:

"...In addition, the trade-in and refunds are being processed."

I guess you need to be really special to believe this.


(waiting 4+ months now on a confirmation/offer for the hardware I traded in)

[allinvain]

I wonder in which parallel universe the trade-ins "are being processed"....

[greaterninja]

I'm out $1800 in Trade-ins, fees,  unless Yifu corrects this issue.

Profits lost are not even mentioned.  :/

[greaterninja]

I'm out $1800 in Trade-ins, fees,  unless Yifu corrects this issue.

Profits lost are not even mentioned.  :/

8/21/2013;  Haven't heard anything back from Yifu about my trade-ins.   Will leave neutral feedback on his Trust Link as I am somewhat happy and disappointed.

4 months later:  2/3 transactions have been complete with Avalon.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=68196

[allinvain]

Has anyone sued the Avalon team yet?

[greaterninja]

Has anyone sued the Avalon team yet?

A bit disappointing.  Wish Yifu would get off his ass and take care of this stuff.

[allinvain]

I'm a bit more than disappointed. I sent them 60+ btc and got nothing to show for it. Had I known I would've spend those btc elsewhere.

[tucenaber]

I'm a bit more than disappointed. I sent them 60+ btc and got nothing to show for it. Had I known I would've spend those btc elsewhere.

I'm really sorry for you. I never thought Yifu would sink so low. Luckily I never received a payment address.

[Raize]

They're registered in Nevada:
https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=ozwghIfOnmFj64qH4nYDaA%253d%253d

If anyone speaks to a lawyer and wants to start a US-based class-action, I'll lend my recorded losses to help with the case. I also have some PMs back and forth with Yifu that might assist in this process. If they are seeking outside funding in the millions of dollars, a class-action could greatly impact such proceedings and force them to deal with us. It seems like a civil suit is the best option available.

It sucks. I really supported Yifu in this, but because I had trade-ins I didn't participate in Batch #1. I did participate in Batch #2, but I figured I'd receive the trade-ins before the Batch #2 units. In fact, I had made several investment decisions based on the trade-ins happening, as did many of you, I'm sure. I don't know why Yifu decided to just completely ignore/neglect the trade-ins.