Christianity is Poison

[Moloch]

It is this Constitution that maintains much of the freedom in America today... all based on Christianity

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

The only mention of religion in the Constitution is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

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[BADecker]

It is this Constitution that maintains much of the freedom in America today... all based on Christianity

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

The only mention of religion in the Constitution is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

The Constitution would not have been accepted if the makers had not added the Amendments, and the people had not ratified the Amendments.

Most of the people were Christian people. Religious freedom was the reason they came over here. They would not have ratified if the Constitution was not acceptable to Christianity. So, the Constitution was based on the Christianity of the people.

Further, research this yourself. In the first years after the U.S. Government started, Christian church services were held in government buildings. And it was Government officials that did this. The people not only allowed, but they approved. Christianity wasn't consider just a religion. It was considered foundational world and life truth.

[Moloch]

It is this Constitution that maintains much of the freedom in America today... all based on Christianity

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

The only mention of religion in the Constitution is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

The Constitution would not have been accepted if the makers had not added the Amendments, and the people had not ratified the Amendments.

Most of the people were Christian people. Religious freedom was the reason they came over here. They would not have ratified if the Constitution was not acceptable to Christianity. So, the Constitution was based on the Christianity of the people.

Further, research this yourself. In the first years after the U.S. Government started, Christian church services were held in government buildings. And it was Government officials that did this. The people not only allowed, but they approved. Christianity wasn't consider just a religion. It was considered foundational world and life truth.

Sorry, you may have misunderstood... I asked if you have any EVIDENCE

Something like this:

“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

Or this:

“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

Or this:

“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

Gotta love Thomas Jefferson... he literally rewrote the bible, to take out the magical bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

“The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
~Founding Father James Madison, 1819, from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion”

[BADecker]

It is this Constitution that maintains much of the freedom in America today... all based on Christianity

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

The only mention of religion in the Constitution is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

The Constitution would not have been accepted if the makers had not added the Amendments, and the people had not ratified the Amendments.

Most of the people were Christian people. Religious freedom was the reason they came over here. They would not have ratified if the Constitution was not acceptable to Christianity. So, the Constitution was based on the Christianity of the people.

Further, research this yourself. In the first years after the U.S. Government started, Christian church services were held in government buildings. And it was Government officials that did this. The people not only allowed, but they approved. Christianity wasn't consider just a religion. It was considered foundational world and life truth.

Sorry, you may have misunderstood... I asked if you have any EVIDENCE

Something like this:

“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

Or this:

“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

Or this:

“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

Gotta love Thomas Jefferson... he literally rewrote the bible, to take out the magical bullshit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

Even more basic evidence is in the 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th Amendments. These Amendments were ratified directly into place by the people, who were basically Christian. These Amendments are what stands. People use them on a regular basis. If people understood the strength in them, they could use Government to put Government down.

All the writings you listed have nothing to do with the founding documents, The Constitution and the Amendments, which stand because Christian people made them to stand.

Christianity is behind the peace we have in America.



EDIT: I guess I stand corrected. You asked for evidence, but all I supplied was proof. It must be that I don't want to get into talking a bunch of philosophy.

[Moloch]

[BADecker]

That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does.

The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child!

[Jonar21]

That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does.

The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child!

Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

[Lancusters]

That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does.

The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child!

Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

To heaven! Are you kidding me? The child is unlike all others and you in particular have not committed any sins. For his God is deprived of life? Punishment without guilt. Religion is not only a poison but also a complete lie. If there was no religion and warfare on earth would be less.

[Buffer Overflow]

That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does.

The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child!

There you go again, placing yourself above god, choosing who goes to heaven or not.

Twice in one week. Tut, tut. Getting to be a little habit of yours.

 

[BADecker]

That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does.

The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child!

There you go again, placing yourself above god, choosing who goes to heaven or not.

Twice in one week. Tut, tut. Getting to be a little habit of yours.

 

There you go again. In one post acknowledging that God exists, and in another stating that He doesn't. Somebody as mixed up as you are absolutely can't make any sense in the things you say.

Not that my pointing this out to you is going to change you. But it might get through a little, and sooner or later you might straighten out. Let's hope it is sooner. Later might not exist for you, and you just might wind up in worse shape than the kid in the picture.

[Daymond Goulder-Horobin]

It depends on how seriously you take it.  If you take everything the bible says with an open mind and a perception of possibilities then it can be a nice thing to believe in a higher power, at an atheist would say like believing in fairy tales.

However if you are a devout mindless sheep who will take the bible to the grave and assault others beliefs in "gods name" then you both limit your own perceptions and subsequently your quality of life will deteriorate.  And worse you could even be hurting others with your doctrine.

Its poison only if you try to force others to believe it.

[Buffer Overflow]

That is one faithful little child. I wonder if I were ever in that pitiful of a condition that I would have strength to praise God the way that child does.

The kid probably doesn't even realize that he will be in Heaven shortly, and that there is THAT great reason, alone, to praise God. Marvelous faith of a child!

There you go again, placing yourself above god, choosing who goes to heaven or not.

Twice in one week. Tut, tut. Getting to be a little habit of yours.

 

There you go again. In one post acknowledging that God exists, and in another stating that He doesn't. Somebody as mixed up as you are absolutely can't make any sense in the things you say.

Not that my pointing this out to you is going to change you. But it might get through a little, and sooner or later you might straighten out. Let's hope it is sooner. Later might not exist for you, and you just might wind up in worse shape than the kid in the picture.

LOL  Silly BADlogic.
Since you have place yourself above god, that means you've made yourself god.
Of course you exist. You're posting messages on here. 

Another example of what happens when a person talks plenty, but does very little thinking.

[Mitcsell]

It depends on how seriously you take it.  If you take everything the bible says with an open mind and a perception of possibilities then it can be a nice thing to believe in a higher power, at an atheist would say like believing in fairy tales.

However if you are a devout mindless sheep who will take the bible to the grave and assault others beliefs in "gods name" then you both limit your own perceptions and subsequently your quality of life will deteriorate.  And worse you could even be hurting others with your doctrine.

Its poison only if you try to force others to believe it.

Yes, if violent compulsion begins to be believed in some religion, then this will already be a real poison. And so, for entertainment, this is quite acceptable as viewing fantastic films or reading fairy tales.

[Sithara007]

Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

Islam and Christianity are very similar to each other, although Islam is a bit regressive. These religions are business minded and seek to interfere in the governance. On the other hand, Buddhism has similarities with religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. They hardly take part in politics.

[Forester618]

Do people completely reject God or only Christianity? Can Islam or Buddhism have the support of those against Christians? I do not understand such a tough confrontation of opinions.

Islam and Christianity are very similar to each other, although Islam is a bit regressive. These religions are business minded and seek to interfere in the governance. On the other hand, Buddhism has similarities with religions such as Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. They hardly take part in politics.

I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

[Sithara007]

I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

[CoinCube]

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

South Korea does not need any more "family planning" They have yet to recover from the last round of such policies.

South Korea Demographics
https://www.pop.org/content/south-korea-%E2%80%9Cgoing-extinct%E2%80%9D

The near-term demographic future of the southern half of the Korean Peninsula looks grim. Assuming that the current low-low fertility rate of 1.19 children per woman continues indefinitely, as NARS did, the population of South Korea will dwindle to less than half its current size by the end of the 21st century. It will go from 50 million down to 20 million, losing 60% of its population in less than 100 years..
South Korea’s low fertility is in large part the result of American efforts to combat “overpopulation” by exporting so-called “family planning” programs around the world. In South Korea, as in so many other countries, these efforts had a coercive element as families who dared to have more than two children were punished in various ways.[1]

Population control efforts in South Korea proved all too successful, and South Korean fertility rates plummeted from around 6 in 1960 down to a shockingly anemic 1.2 children in 2004. Even after overt anti-natal policies were discontinued in 1996, the fertility rate did not recover, but continued to drop.

[1] Mosher, Steven W. "The Crisis of the Empty Cradle." Population Control: Real Costs, Illusory Benefits. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction, 2008. 20-25.

I have yet to see any demographic breakdown of the Christian vs the non Christian populations of South Korea but near universal trend globally is that Christians are more resistant to such demographic implosions. Christianity is already one of the largest religions in South Korea and I suspect that trend will only continue.

[Winchester2211]

I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

[BADecker]

I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

There is no problem with overpopulation. All people die. The only problem is staying alive as long as you want, and in reasonable health and freedom.

No population problem at all. All people die.

People who talk about a population problem, are simply trying to get you to worry about nothing, so they can gain control over you when you are weak with a doubting attitude. Once they have control, they make slaves of you.

[Lieldoryn]

I totally agree with you. Only if Christianity and Islam take part in political life then it is not religion, but political parties that use religious dogma to attract their supporters. Then the attitude should be what. I'm sure they conspired with the governments and therefore enjoy more benefits which you deserve.

The interference these two religions have on the governments of various nations is very evident. Look at countries such as South Korea and Philippines in Asia. The church has forced the government to shelve plans for popularizing family planning.

I wonder what will happen to tell the Church when, because of overpopulation in these countries, the problems begin with food and shelter.

There is no problem with overpopulation. All people die. The only problem is staying alive as long as you want, and in reasonable health and freedom.

No population problem at all. All people die.

People who talk about a population problem, are simply trying to get you to worry about nothing, so they can gain control over you when you are weak with a doubting attitude. Once they have control, they make slaves of you.

Really?  Population doubles every 70/(growth rate) years.  Currently, the global population will double every 64 years.
If you think this is not a problem you don't understand how serious the problem with overpopulation really is.


7.5B - 2017
15B - 2081
30B - 2145
60B - 2199

There is no escape from doubling time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

Trust me, the overpopulation of the earth will not. Man is so constituted that he could not live long without war. Can be such an aggressive nature to us as a mechanism for preventing overpopulation?