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August 19, 2017, 06:39:45 AM
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I am a Hindu , we believe in our Gods and  i will remain like that , i will not say that am living in the best country of this world although this has got nothing to do with religion, i will never say Christianity is a poison,and i have respect for Jesus and other religions too yes there are people in every religion who are cheaters and they like to use others for their own benefit, but its a pity to see Muslims producing terrorists, check the recent Spain attack, although the religion is not so bad and its not true if someone says that  ALL MUSLIMS ARE  BAD PEOPLE  coz not all of them are bad or terrorists
and all gods of different religions never prescribed to kill people and yes Gods have never suggested to convert people to different religions forcefully directly or indirectly

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August 19, 2017, 06:41:29 AM
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Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

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August 19, 2017, 06:47:04 AM
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don't worry the kind of sins world is going through now .............i mean those will have to end some day , no God of any religion will save earth coz we r approaching 3rd world war at some point of time if not today may be in 150 years of time , this time it will be a nuclear one and the world is going to be destroyed, its the humans who will do it not the GODS and according to Nostradamus predictions' 3rd world war have already started with the Middle East crisis and terrorism  those r  kind of  fires i mean what he actually mentioned;D

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August 19, 2017, 07:05:19 AM
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don't worry the kind of sins world is going through now .............i mean those will have to end some day , no God of any religion will save earth coz we r approaching 3rd world war at some point of time if not today may be in 150 years of time , this time it will be a nuclear one and the world is going to be destroyed, its the humans who will do it not the GODS and according to Nostradamus predictions' 3rd world war have already started with the Middle East crisis and terrorism  those r  kind of  fires i mean what he actually mentioned;D

God has made Himself obedient to the requests of mankind. God will destroy the universe at the request and behest of mankind. That's why He is making the New Heavens and the New earth... for those who don't want the destruction, but follow God and believe in Jesus salvation.

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August 19, 2017, 07:17:52 AM
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Why would anyone not want a God to exist?

That's easy... it's really a lot simpler than you might think

We've read the bible

That's it... simple wasn't it?

Atheists do not want the god of the bible to exist... because we've read the bible... and see what the bible says about that god... we understand that the god of the bible acts in evil ways... we do not want this god to exist because we would never follow such a god... it would be quite sad if the bible was true... quite sad indeed

It isn't that atheists hate god... atheists hate YOUR god... I would love for a god to exist, just not the god of the bible... because I've read the bible, and that is a shitty god

Moloch you may be suprised to know that I am actually sympathetic to your position as I was a strong agnostic for most of my adult life. I ended up that way in precisely the way you describe by reading the Old Testament and being turned off by the barbarism of those times. That combined with a very sceptical personality and exposure in my youth to a disproportionate number of inarticulate religious folks set me on a 20 year path of firm agnosticism. I viewed the religious as foolish holding quaint but outdated and untrue views.

It took me the better part of a quarter century before I gradually realized that the inarticulate bumpkins of my youth despite their lack of sophistication were more or less correct and it was I with my smug intellectual superiority that had adopted the untenable position.

I reached the conclusion not due to any great spiritual event or conversation but the application of logic and consequence. Below is the logic that pulled me away from agnosticism. Its essentially an essay divided into 5 parts. I recommend reading if for no other reason then to understand the logical basis of an opposing view.

Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
The Beginning of Wisdom
Faith and Future
The More Rational Model

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August 19, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
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Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

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This sort of thinking is exactly why people claim that Christianity is poison. As long as the Christians keep to themselves and stop aggressive proselytization, no one will be having problems. Even in my country, they try to forcibly convert people to Christianity.

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August 19, 2017, 09:08:40 AM
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Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

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This sort of thinking is exactly why people claim that Christianity is poison. As long as the Christians keep to themselves and stop aggressive proselytization, no one will be having problems. Even in my country, they try to forcibly convert people to Christianity.

I agree. Actually its not just christianity but religion in general. If we stop thinking about divisions and forcing our beliefs into other people's minds, we'd be more well of as human beings, not christians, not muslims, not jews, not atheists but human beings.

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August 19, 2017, 11:55:49 AM
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Hey!I have to say that this is a very nice thread.An intresting aspect was said in a humorous way.I have to confess that truly some of these things worried me (and I think that I am not the only one).However there are still few things that I admire in Christianity.I don't believe that these two different kinds or beliefes have to be in conflict, because they are not even in contrast.Christians believe in God,ahteists from the other hand  do not believe in any kind of God.Anyway just be peacefull!
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August 19, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
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Hey!I have to say that this is a very nice thread.An intresting aspect was said in a humorous way.I have to confess that truly some of these things worried me (and I think that I am not the only one).However there are still few things that I admire in Christianity.I don't believe that these two different kinds or beliefes have to be in conflict, because they are not even in contrast.Christians believe in God,ahteists from the other hand  do not believe in any kind of God.Anyway just be peacefull!

There aren't any atheists. There are only some people who say they are atheists. Why? The so-called atheists know that they don't know that God doesn't exist. So, they know that they can't believe that He doesn't exist. But nature shows everybody that God must exist.

Because of this, people who believe God aren't believing in His existence. They are believing what they think He tells them... or what He DOES tell them. So-called atheists are trying to hide the fact of God from themselves.

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August 19, 2017, 12:16:20 PM
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Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

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This sort of thinking is exactly why people claim that Christianity is poison. As long as the Christians keep to themselves and stop aggressive proselytization, no one will be having problems. Even in my country, they try to forcibly convert people to Christianity.

I agree. Actually its not just christianity but religion in general. If we stop thinking about divisions and forcing our beliefs into other people's minds, we'd be more well of as human beings, not christians, not muslims, not jews, not atheists but human beings.

Who is forcing their beliefs into anyone's mind? People who think this way are simply recognizing that they believe in God. And it makes them uncomfortable to have double-thoughts within themselves. Nobody can force anybody else to believe anything without some hands-on, tied-down form of brainwashing.

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August 19, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
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what u need to be aware of is that Jesus himself was never a christian - he was a real freedomfighter - no other man split time BC/AD





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August 19, 2017, 12:25:34 PM
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It is not true. Don't follow the Christian person or Muslim person or any other cost following persons. Non of the religion say wrong to any body the people who follow poison. this is my point of view.

and My Policy is live and let to live.

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August 19, 2017, 01:01:56 PM
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I am a Hindu , i will remain like that , i will never say Christianity is a poison, yes there are people in every religion who are cheaters and they like to use others for their own benefit, but its a pity to see Muslims producing terrorists, check the recent Spain attack, although the religion is not so bad
and all gods of different religions never prescribed to kill people

Clearly you haven't read the bible...

The god of the bible commands his followers to kill people at least 100 different times... it's sick

I agree that no god "SHOULD" prescribe his followers to murder people, but the bible does exactly that

Here is just one example: (I chose this example because the bible says to murder your own son, rather than a foreigner)

Quote from: Deuteronomy 21:18–21
If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.
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August 19, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
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when 3rd world war  takes place, if not today then in 150-200 years......... no religious text will save people on earth, no religion will , coz the whole world is going to be destroyed,who has seen a heaven or a hell?HuhHuh?   .......................USE SIMPLE LOGIC  Grin Grin

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August 19, 2017, 01:50:47 PM
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what u need to be aware of is that Jesus himself was never a christian - he was a real freedomfighter - no other man split time BC/AD

The current version of Christianity is a business model, which doesn't have anything to do with Jesus Christ or any of his relatives or disciples. Right now, Christianity is big business, whose sole intention is to exert influence in world politics, and to stash as much wealth as possible. Somewhere I read that around 10% of the world's net wealth is owned by the Christian denominations. But at the same time, a lot many of the poor people around the world are Christian.


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August 19, 2017, 05:54:03 PM
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I am a Hindu , i will remain like that , i will never say Christianity is a poison, yes there are people in every religion who are cheaters and they like to use others for their own benefit, but its a pity to see Muslims producing terrorists, check the recent Spain attack, although the religion is not so bad
and all gods of different religions never prescribed to kill people

Clearly you haven't read the bible...

The god of the bible commands his followers to kill people at least 100 different times... it's sick

I agree that no god "SHOULD" prescribe his followers to murder people, but the bible does exactly that

Here is just one example: (I chose this example because the bible says to murder your own son, rather than a foreigner)

Quote from: Deuteronomy 21:18–21
If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.

To interpret what the bible says in that text, i think the main idea there is to eliminate evil, the depiction of evil is rebellious, glutton(greedy), lazy, etc... don't take the bible seriously word by word (but i don't think in my country that we have a bible that say its okay to kill rather we have to teach him to be good,, blah blah blah, and so on). I don't get where you got that part, but to ask you, can you tell me what specific section you get that, i am not a bible fanatic that remembers all the part, article and others. I am just a half believer but sure i want to know more of your ideas about Christianity knowing that in each religion there is always lies within. Let me ask you, what is your religion?

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August 19, 2017, 06:12:03 PM
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I am a Hindu , i will remain like that , i will never say Christianity is a poison, yes there are people in every religion who are cheaters and they like to use others for their own benefit, but its a pity to see Muslims producing terrorists, check the recent Spain attack, although the religion is not so bad
and all gods of different religions never prescribed to kill people

Clearly you haven't read the bible...

The god of the bible commands his followers to kill people at least 100 different times... it's sick

I agree that no god "SHOULD" prescribe his followers to murder people, but the bible does exactly that

Here is just one example: (I chose this example because the bible says to murder your own son, rather than a foreigner)

Quote from: Deuteronomy 21:18–21
If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.

You are a misguided liar.

God doesn't tell anyone to kill anybody today.

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August 19, 2017, 06:44:06 PM
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i think so!!!
they let rich kid on their school..
they dont let poor one beecause theres no money for payment ...
dont dont pay taxes..

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August 19, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
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I LOVE OSHO. I agree with the fact that Christianity is poison but it is not alone. All religion is poison and made up to control the minds of minorities. It is so that people stay in check without being monitored, because they have a fear held over their heads that holds a dominance giving them incentive to follow rules and avoid "sin".
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August 19, 2017, 09:24:10 PM
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when 3rd world war  takes place, if not today then in 150-200 years......... no religious text will save people on earth, no religion will , coz the whole world is going to be destroyed,who has seen a heaven or a hell?HuhHuh?   .......................USE SIMPLE LOGIC  Grin Grin

The world will rise again after WW3, some corners of the world will be better off than others. US, Europe, Russia, China and India will be turned into ash sadly.
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