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August 10, 2017, 08:27:03 AM
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christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, who serves as the focal point of the Christian faith. It is the world's largest religion, with over 2.4 billion followers, or 33% of the global population, known as Christians.

60 Character Traits of Christ
 Love will enable us to appreciate our brothers and sisters in the Lord, and, of course, our family, and others around us. Love is taking the initiative to build up and meet the needs of others without expecting anything in return. (John 13:1; John 15:13; 1 Corinthians 13:3)
• Joy will allow us to enjoy His creation, others, and our circumstances with an expression of delight and real, authentic happiness from and with harmony with God and others. (Proverbs 15:13; John 15:11; John 17:13)
• Peace is surrendering and yielding to the Lord’s control, for He is our ultimate peace! It is allowing tranquility to be our tone and to control our equanimity. This will be fueled by our harmonious relationship with God so we can hand over control of our heart, will, and mind to Him. Once we make real peace with God, we will be able to make and maintain peace with others. (Matthew 5:9; Colossians 3:15; Philippians 4:7)
• Patience is showing tolerance and fortitude to others, and even accepting difficult situations from them and God without making demands and conditions. (Matthew 27:14; Romans 12:12; James 1:3,12)
• Kindness is practicing benevolence and a loving attitude towards others. (Ephesians 4:32)
• Goodness displays integrity, honesty, and compassion to others, and allows us to do the right thing. (Matthew 19:16)
• Faithfulness is the “gluing” fruit that will preserve our faith and the other characters of the Spirit as well as identify God’s Will so we can be dependable and trusting to God and others. (Matthew 17:19; Matthew 25:21; 1 Cor. 12:9; Hebrews 11:1; 1 Thes 5:24)
• Gentleness is the character that will show calmness, personal care, and tenderness in meeting the needs of others. (Isa. 40:11; Philippians 4:5; 2 Timothy 2:24; 1 Thes 2:7)
• Self-Control will allow us to have discipline, and restraint with obedience to God and others. (1 Thes 5: 22)
• Forgiving is the realization of how much we have been forgiven by Christ. This enables us to forgive the insignificant things that are done to us. It involves not being resentful to others, and ignoring the wrongs that we have received so we can heal relationships by expressing Christ’s love. (Luke 23:34; Ephesians 4:32; Colossians 3:13)
• Humility minimizes arrogance and removes pride. It is understanding our fallen nature and tendency to think we are better than we are, and our striving to lift up ourselves above others and God. It is admitting that others, and more importantly God is responsible for our achievements. Humbleness will enable us to be a teachable person who is willing to have the attitude of submission and servant-hood, one who confesses sin and remembers how Christ served us! (Luke 22:27; Philippians 2:8; 1 Peter 5:3–5)
• Fairness sees a situation from the viewpoint of each person involved and not just ours. It seeks the best, just, equable solution, even if it hurts us. (Matthew 7:12)
• Courage realizes that God has given us the strength to face any situation, trial, or peril. It is the ability to react, knowing that God is in control, that He who is in me is greater than he who is against me. (Deuteronomy 31:6; 1 John 4:4)
• Friendship is the companionship and closeness we are to have with one another. It is the commitment to help form the character in others. This is not to be feared but embraced, even when it hurts! (Proverbs 27:17)
• Honesty & Truthfulness mean being straight and honest with others and doing what is right. This trait will allow us to earn trust by being accurate with facts and situations. (2 Cor. 8:21; Ephesians 4:25)
• Dependable is being constantly reliable and trustworthy. It will allow us to continue in our commitments even if it means personal sacrifice. (1 Corinthians 4:2; Colossians 1:10)
• Gratitude is an attitude of being thankful, even when we do not see what we have. This is an aspect of worship, expressing to God and others how they have benefited our lives by showing their support and benevolence. (1 Corinthians 4:7; 1 Thes. 5: 18)
• Responsibility is to know and do what God and others expect. (Romans 14:12)
• Contentment is the attitude of accepting whatever God provides for us, and being happy with it. It does not seek what we do not need for gratification, and does not find happiness in the shallow things of life. (Rom. 9:19–21; Philippians 4:10–13; 1 Tim. 6:6–9)
• Generosity allows us to give to others because God has given abundantly to us. It is the wise use of stewardship and the attitude that all I have belongs to God and knowing we are the caretakers for His purpose. (Deut. 16:17; Matthew 10:Cool
• Purity & Holiness is being set apart for God’s use, which is holiness in action. It does not allow us to be contaminated nor interfere with others in our growth and relationship in Christ. (Matt. 5:8; Philippians 4:8; 1 Tim. 1:5; 1 Tim. 5:22; James 4:Cool
• Confidence helps us rely on the Lord for all things in our life. It will enable us to push forward in the direction that we are called because He is governing. It makes us realize we are not responsible for the results–only the obedience. (Philippians 4:13)
• Encouragement will lift, support, and help others up through difficult circumstances, all from God’s perspective. (Psalm 119:28; Psalm 143:3; Matt. 3:17; John 14:1; 1 Thes. 5:11–14)
• Availability is being willing to adjust our own schedule, agenda, and plans to fit the right desires of God and others. It makes personal priorities secondary to the needs of God and others. It is to reflect God’s priorities so we are always available to Him and others when we are serving. (Mark 1:17–18; Acts 16:10)
• Attentiveness will recognize the value of other people by giving them listening ears, respect, courtesy, and total concentration. This means paying attention to others, not just listening to our own needs and desires, and also giving genuine contemplation to God’s Word. (Hebrews 2:1)
• Wisdom truly desires the knowledge of God’s Word and the proper application to our life. This will enable us to make good judgments and decisions. (1 Kings 3:9; Psalm 119:97–98)
• Compassion will feel the pain and plight of others. It will enable us to convey a deep feeling of love and concern that moves us to meet their distresses, struggles, and needs. (Job 29:13; Isa. 40:11; Mark 1:41; Luke 19:4; 1 Peter 3:Cool
• Enthusiasm will enable us to overcome disappointments and setbacks, so we can be positive, optimistic, and keep up our interest, attitude, and zeal, even when things are harsh. (Matt. 5:16; Rom. 12:11; Gal. 6:9; Col. 3:23)
• Initiative will take the front position to recognize and do what needs to be done before being asked to do it. (Prov. 22:29; Philippians 3:14; Philippians 4:13–15)
• Diligence allows us to operate with our best for His highest with excitement and passion in order to complete our work and call from the Lord. (Prov. 10:4; Rom. 12:11; Colossians 3:23)
• Thoughtfulness considers and gives attention and care to others and their feelings first. (Philippians 2:4)
• Efficient is being well organized, competent, and resourceful so we can make the most of every situation, doing our best and seeking better ways. (Psalm 90:12; Ephesians 4:23; Ephesians 5:15– 16; 1 Pet. 4:10)
• Discretion keeps our minds and focus on sound judgment, giving serious attention and thought to what is going on. It will carefully choose our words, attitudes, and actions to be right for any given situation, thus avoiding words and actions that could result in adverse consequences. (Psalm 112:5; Proverbs 22:3; Rom. 12:2, Rom. 9; Rom. 14:19, Rom. 22)
• Optimism will think the best of and be positive with people and all situations, even if later proven wrong. (Luke 21:18; John 16:33; Romans 8:25; Romans 28)
• Obedience is submitting to do what God requires of us. It is also recognizing the authority and direction from others, such as the pastor and church, so we can create winning situations. (Deut. 13:4 ; Prov. 19:16; John 14:14; John 15:14; 2 Corinthians 10:5)
• Reverence is recognizing and respecting people, not just because of their position and authority, but as brothers and sisters in the Lord, regardless of their personality, knowing He loves them too! (1 Peter 2:13–14)
• Agreeable finds Biblical solutions and support for others, without compromising truth. (Amos 3:3)
• Appreciation gives God our heartfelt thanks as a lifestyle of worship and adoration. This allows us to give to, and value others with respect. (Romans 12:10)
• Avoiding anger is the knowing of its destructive force and striving to maintain “cool” and serenity. (James 1:19)
• Being a Good Example is not allowing your relationship with Christ to become hypocritical, since people see your example as to what a Christian is! (1 Pet 2:21,22; 1 Pet 2:12,15,17)
• Childlike Faith is the wonder and awe of what Christ did for us. It is something that we should never lose. Let us maintain our enthusiasm and not become just a subculture or routine! (Matt. 18:2–4,34)
• Commitment is being dedicated and pushing ahead as well as being satisfied with what you have. It is vowing to honor and be the best with what God has given of spiritual and material things. (1 Timothy 6:20)
• Communicating is being willing to convey thoughts, attitudes, feelings, and actions to others in a kind and listening manner that reflects Christ. (1 Timothy 4:12)
• Conviction is devotion to and following of the precepts of Scripture with zeal, whatever the cost. (Daniel 1:Cool
• Cooperativeness is the support and willingness to work together in peace, unity, and harmony. (Eph. 4:3)
• Creative is being resourceful and imaginative in using the best of the goods and talents we have been given to serve the Lord. (1 Timothy 4:14)
• Diligenceis the loving of our call and the pursuing of our work, doing our best for His glory. (Colossians 3:23)
• Dependableis always being reliable and trustworthy. (Colossians 1:10)
• Determination is the ability to make difficult decisions and accomplish God’s goals based on the truths of God’s Word, regardless of the opposition. (Psalms 119:30; 2 Timothy 4:7,8)
• Deference is being willing to bend personal freedom for the respect and esteem of others. (Romans 14:21)
• Devotion is aligning personal desires, plans, worship, and hope with God. (Colossians 3:2)
• Discernment is the ability to see people and situations the way they really are with of neutrality and justice, while also being cautious with right timing and actions. (1 Samuel 16:7; Proverbs 19:2)
• Discreet is the ability to not bully people with our personality or actions, or even with sound and right opinions. It is giving serious respect, attention, and thought to what we say and do. (Psalm 112:5)
• Discipline is upholding and continuing a consistent and well-ordered life through godly obedience, regardless of how we feel. (1 Timothy 4:7)
• Decisive is sticking to right and just decisions based on God’s perfect will. (Romans 12:2)
• Not to swear or slander is refusing to verbally hurt others! (James 1:26)
• Endurance is the inner strength to remain in Him with staying power in order to accomplish God’s will. (Galatians 6:9)
• Fearless is facing down peril without being stupid. Sound mind is being bold since God gives us strength. (2 Timothy 1:7)
• Flexibility is being open to others plans and ideas and willing to be instructed and challenged to change for the better. (Colossians 3:2)
• Godly Priorities is choosing to follow Scriptural precepts as the primary important schedule and value for life. (Matthew 6:33)
• Godliness is being pious, which is rearranging our priorities to line up with God’s character. (3 John 11)
• Grace is elegant simplicity and calm that minimizes crudeness. (Psalm 94:11; James 4:6)
• Guidance is a willingness to help others to apply the precepts of Scripture in everyday and difficult situations. (Proverbs 27:9)
• Harmless is not willing or deliberately hurting anyone or anything. (Heb 7:26)
• Honest is being truthful and doing what is sincere and right before God and others. (Heb 7:26)
• Hospitality is a willingness to share, with discernment, what God has given us, including our family, home, finances, and food. (Romans 12:13)
• Integrity is the obedience to a moral code of values that have honor, truth, and reliability. It will allow one to keep his word and do his best even when no one else is looking. (Psalm 78:72)
• Just is doing what is fair, moral, impartial, and right, according to God’s will. (Genesis 6:9)
• Loyalty is remaining committed to those whom God has brought into our lives and has called us to serve, even in times of difficulty. (Proverbs 17:17)
• Meekness is not about being weak! It is strength under control, which yields personal rights and expectations to God. (Psalms 62:5)
• Merciful is demonstrating more forgiving and gracious kindness than the world requires. (Luke 6:36)
• Patience is the fortitude to accept from others difficult situations that we do not like. With God, it is trust of His timing, and not giving Him a deadline. (Romans 12:12)
• Perseverance is not being faint with our call, but being able to persist and continue to deal with stress so we can accomplish what God calls us to. (Galatians 6:9)
• Persuasiveness advocates God’s Word to others so they can be changed in their thinking and can conform to His will. (2 Timothy 2:25)
• Prompt is not holding others back with our inadequacies; it is respecting the time of others and being able to act quickly when God and others call on us. (Ecclesiastes 3:1)
• Prudence is not being a prude, but implementing and applying good, logical, and just judgment to situations that will help in avoiding error and problems. (Proverbs 13:6; Proverbs 22:3)
• Purpose is in knowing who we are in Christ and acting it out with our call. That is, devoting our life, Spiritual gifts, abilities, and call so it can bring out the best in people and situations. Our meaning of life will have eternal treasure and results. (John 15)
• Respectful is being polite and courteous to the people, and the civil authorities God has placed in our life. (1 Thes. 5:13–14)
• Security is trust and reliance upon God for our daily needs. This is not laziness, but working with God’s values, and organizing our life around God’s Will with an eternal outlook in mind for a secure feeling. We are safe because of God’s protection. (Proverbs 29:25; John 6:27)
• Submissive is, with awe and reverence, surrendering and yielding our will and plans over to God’s guidance. (Ephesians 5:21)
• Self-Acceptance is realizing we are deeply loved and accepted by Christ, thus, we can accept us. To love others we have to love ourselves as Christ implies for us to. Self-hatred is not Biblical! Self-Acceptance will allow us to accept unchangeable physical features and situations that God has made, to allow us to focus on the more important things in life such as character. (2 Corinthians 12:9–10)
• Selflessness is the altruistic giving of ourselves to others, as Christ gave Himself to us. (Titus 2:14)
• Sensitivity is exercising kindness and compassion so we can go beyond just reason and logic to perceive and respond to others. (Romans 12:15)
• Servant Leadership is exercising real godly leadership as Christ did, by His taking a towel, influencing, equipping, and empowering people to accomplish God’s purpose and plan. (Luke 22:26)
• Sincerity is earnest honesty that is readily doing what is right, with pure and loving intention. (Joshua 24:14; 1 Peter 1:22)
• Success is not what the world says is achievement; it is to know and faithfully follow God’s Will and His Word. It is our obedience, not our numbers or measurements! (Matthew 25:21)
• Suffering is not sought, but when it happens, it is d allowing it to turn into a mold to allow us to be made for the better as “Christ hath suffered” makes us better. It is not a personal attack, rather it is a means to get our attention to make us better, more useful, stronger, and to understand what takes place in others. (1 Peter 4:1–19)
• Supportive is to come along side others, sharing our strength and courage in their afflictions and troubles. (Galatians 6:2)
• Tactful is being considerate, delicate, and diplomatic with other’s feelings and ideas, doing, and saying the right thing. (Colossians 4:6)
• Teach is to share our insights and what we have learned with others, to disciple them. (Matt. 7:28; Matt. 28:19–20; John 7:16; Mark 4:2; 2 John 1:9)
• Temperate is to have self-control so we do not lose control and give in to lust and extremes of society’s ills. (Titus 2:12)
• Tolerant is being forbearing and patient with others, even when they are different or weaker. (1 Thes. 5:14)
• Thoroughness is careful diligence that carries out our call with our very best for God’s approval. (Ecclesiastes 9:10; Colossians 3:23)
• Time is the moments in which we either burn or live for His glory. It is the opportunities we have to live, serve, learn, and grow. In so doing, if we invest wisely, we will produce eternal treasures. If not, it will go to waste. (Psalm 90:12)
• Understanding is the ability to reason and comprehend situations. (Psalms 119:34)
• Virtue is holding onto the principles of moral excellence that calls us to a higher level where few people desire to go, but as a Christian, we must go! (Col. 3:12–17)
• Zealous is maintaining our enthusiasm for our faith and call, not allowing our church or us to fall into a rut of meaningless rhetoric. (Luke 2:49; John 2:17; John 8:29)
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August 10, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
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Excessive fascination with religion can poison a person's mind, but in moderate amounts a person can believe in anything but just need to impose it on others. After all, religion is a legend invented by other people.

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August 10, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
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Excessive fascination with religion can poison a person's mind, but in moderate amounts a person can believe in anything but just need to impose it on others. After all, religion is a legend invented by other people.

Religion was invented by the intelligent people, to enslave the less intelligent ones. Christianity is no different. If you look around, you can see the Bishops and Deacons roaming around in their BMWs. And at the same time, many of the Christian faithful struggle to feed themselves.

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August 10, 2017, 02:52:29 PM
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Excessive fascination with religion can poison a person's mind, but in moderate amounts a person can believe in anything but just need to impose it on others. After all, religion is a legend invented by other people.

Religion was invented by the intelligent people, to enslave the less intelligent ones. Christianity is no different. If you look around, you can see the Bishops and Deacons roaming around in their BMWs. And at the same time, many of the Christian faithful struggle to feed themselves.



Quote from: Religulous (movie)
Bill Maher: People in a congregation must know that the outfit was financed by their donations, and it doesn't seem to bother them.
Preacher: I always dress well.
Bill Maher: I see! Are those gators? (pointing to his shoes)
Peacher: Those are lizards.
Bill Maher: What do they run?
Preacher: They don't run. They crawl.
Bill Maher: And I see you got a lot of bling.
Preacher: I like gold.  The people want you to look well.
Bill Maher: That's what pimps say about their women.
Peacher: I was told by one of the greatest pimps that ever lived-- his name is called God-- that if you know what you got, then you ain't got much. Jesus dressed very well.

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August 10, 2017, 04:01:00 PM
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Everything is poison when used in the wrong way.
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August 10, 2017, 05:37:49 PM
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Without Christianity the current moral system wouldn't exist. What exactly would? Who knows

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Extremist peeps are the real poison.
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August 11, 2017, 02:41:30 AM
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Remember: God is watching you masturbate and the fluids coming out of your genitals are actually His tears.
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August 11, 2017, 03:54:14 AM
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Without Christianity the current moral system wouldn't exist. What exactly would? Who knows

What morality are you talking about? So according to you, all the non-Christian people are immoral? The Christians want to impose their view on morality over the others. That's not going to work everywhere.

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Without Christianity the current moral system wouldn't exist. What exactly would? Who knows

What morality are you talking about? So according to you, all the non-Christian people are immoral? The Christians want to impose their view on morality over the others. That's not going to work everywhere.

Yeah. If all people think like that, pretty much all religion would be poison. Come on, there are a lot of religions aside from christianity and some are even a lot older. Its ok if you believe christian teachings but putting other religions in a bad light i think isn't very christian also

 
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August 11, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
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Without Christianity the current moral system wouldn't exist. What exactly would? Who knows

What morality are you talking about? So according to you, all the non-Christian people are immoral? The Christians want to impose their view on morality over the others. That's not going to work everywhere.

Yeah. If all people think like that, pretty much all religion would be poison. Come on, there are a lot of religions aside from christianity and some are even a lot older. Its ok if you believe christian teachings but putting other religions in a bad light i think isn't very christian also

Besides the fact that our moral system has nothing to do with Christianity

People always point to the 10-commandments... as if they are laws or something...
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me (not a law)
2) Thou shalt not make idols (not a law)
3) Thou shalt not take gods name in vain (not a law)
4) Honor thy father and mother (not a law)
5) Keep the sabbath holy (not a law)
6) Thou shalt not kill (finally, one that is a law, though it was a law long before Christianity... Christians did not invent "do not murder")
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery (not a law)
8} Thou shalt not steal (another law that was invented before Christianity)
9) Thou shalt not covet (not a law)
10) Thou shalt not covet (again, not a law... don't know why god has to repeat himself either)

2 out of 10 does not form the basis of modern morality... especially considering both of the commandments which happen to be laws, were already laws before the bible was even written

Beyond the 10-commandments, you have things like:
Not allowed to eat meat and dairy in the same meal (penalty = death)
Not allowed to wear clothing made from 2 different materials (penalty = death)
Not allowed to plant 2 different crops in the same field (penalty = death)
Not allowed to work or travel more than a mile from your house on Sunday (penalty = death)
Not allowed to eat pork or seafood (penalty = death)
Not allowed to rape a virgin (penalty = you must marry her) (true story, it's in the bible!)

None of this makes sense, or are laws, or have anything to do with morality...
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August 11, 2017, 12:23:49 PM
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In Christianity, there are some positive elements that teach a person a moral way of life and one can not consider this religion a poison if it is used in reasonable doses.

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Besides the fact that our moral system has nothing to do with Christianity

People always point to the 10-commandments... as if they are laws or something...
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me (not a law)
2) Thou shalt not make idols (not a law)
3) Thou shalt not take gods name in vain (not a law)
4) Honor thy father and mother (not a law)
5) Keep the sabbath holy (not a law)
6) Thou shalt not kill (finally, one that is a law, though it was a law long before Christianity... Christians did not invent "do not murder")
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery (not a law)
8} Thou shalt not steal (another law that was invented before Christianity)
9) Thou shalt not covet (not a law)
10) Thou shalt not covet (again, not a law... don't know why god has to repeat himself either)

2 out of 10 does not form the basis of modern morality... especially considering both of the commandments which happen to be laws, were already laws before the bible was even written
...

You are quite wrong here Moloch. No document in world history so changed the world for the better as did the 10-commandments. Western civilization would not have developed nor can it be sustained without them.

If you are interested in why this is the case here is a short video series from Prager University (each video only 3-5 minutes) that covers the Ten Commandments and why they are indispensable in a viable human society.

The Ten Commandments: What You Should Know
https://www.prageru.com/node/164

I am the Lord Your God
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/i-am-lord-your-god

Do Not Murder
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-murder

Do Not Commit Adultery
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-commit-adultery

Do Not Steal
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-steal

Do Not Bear False Witness
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-bear-false-witness

Do Not Covet
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-covet

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Besides the fact that our moral system has nothing to do with Christianity

People always point to the 10-commandments... as if they are laws or something...
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me (not a law)
2) Thou shalt not make idols (not a law)
3) Thou shalt not take gods name in vain (not a law)
4) Honor thy father and mother (not a law)
5) Keep the sabbath holy (not a law)
6) Thou shalt not kill (finally, one that is a law, though it was a law long before Christianity... Christians did not invent "do not murder")
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery (not a law)
8} Thou shalt not steal (another law that was invented before Christianity)
9) Thou shalt not covet (not a law)
10) Thou shalt not covet (again, not a law... don't know why god has to repeat himself either)

2 out of 10 does not form the basis of modern morality... especially considering both of the commandments which happen to be laws, were already laws before the bible was even written

Beyond the 10-commandments, you have things like:
Not allowed to eat meat and dairy in the same meal (penalty = death)
Not allowed to wear clothing made from 2 different materials (penalty = death)
Not allowed to plant 2 different crops in the same field (penalty = death)
Not allowed to work or travel more than a mile from your house on Sunday (penalty = death)
Not allowed to eat pork or seafood (penalty = death)
Not allowed to rape a virgin (penalty = you must marry her) (true story, it's in the bible!)

None of this makes sense, or are laws, or have anything to do with morality...

You are quite wrong here Moloch. No document in world history so changed the world for the better as did the 10-commandments. Western civilization would not have developed nor can it be sustained without them.

You don't know your history... the 10-commandments are based on previous works, such as the code of Hammurabi

Civilized society existed before christianity was invented

There is nothing new in the bible in regards to morality... it was all written down before the bible

As I have proven, our laws are NOT based on the bible... none of them

Philosophy has given morals to the people, not religion

The main reason people don't commit crimes is not because they fear god, but because they fear the police

Nobody takes the 10-commandments seriously... if they did, people wouldn't lie all the time (oh, christians lie... all the time)... Jesus said a lie is as bad as murder to god... all the commandments are the same...

People are not good because of god, they are good because of laws and police

Some people are good because they understand the philosophy behind being good, and how that makes for a better society for everyone... not because of god, never because of god...

Priests are not even afraid to rape little boys... nobody is afraid of god
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August 11, 2017, 02:33:43 PM
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Priests are not even afraid to rape little boys... nobody is afraid of god

Horny priests sodomizing the choir boys is less serious when compared to the attempts by the Vatican to shield these priests. It is the pope who should be blamed for this pathetic state of affairs. He is afraid to act against the pedos.
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Priests are not even afraid to rape little boys... nobody is afraid of god

Horny priests sodomizing the choir boys is less serious when compared to the attempts by the Vatican to shield these priests. It is the pope who should be blamed for this pathetic state of affairs. He is afraid to act against the pedos.
And what of the popes to blame? No he can't answer for everyone. It's the fault of the position of the Church which he is obliged to support. Every religion is poison. When people will understand it they will live better. Religion imposes on people a false value.
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All I care to say is, the poison that can be religion, can be the poison that is paradigm, culture as a whole or ideology.

In the name of some God, in the name of some system (democracy) in the name of whatever dumbass belief, utter evil shit happens. You can't distinguish between religious or non Religious ideology really. Humans are shit.

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You are quite wrong here Moloch. No document in world history so changed the world for the better as did the 10-commandments. Western civilization would not have developed nor can it be sustained without them.

You don't know your history... the 10-commandments are based on previous works, such as the code of Hammurabi

Civilized society existed before christianity was invented

There is nothing new in the bible in regards to morality... it was all written down before the bible

...

Priests are not even afraid to rape little boys... nobody is afraid of god

The 10-commandments are not based on the code of Hammurabi. Don't take my word for it read them both yourself.
http://evangelcs.org/news/2012/the-code-of-hammurabi-vs-the-law-of-moses/

The Code of Hammurabi vs. the Law of Moses

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Similarly, part of what is so interesting about The Code of Hammurabi is how it compares (and contrasts) to the law of Moses.  Consider some areas of similarity:
  • Justice.  Given that the image of God is in all men, and given that the law of God is inscribed on the hearts of men, it comes as no surprise that some of the laws in The Code are just.
  • Civil order.  If a people would apply The Codes of Hammurabi and Moses, each offers  a recipe for civil order.
  • The Lex Talionis, or “the principle that a person who has injured another person is similarly injured in retribution” (hat tip to Wikipedia for the helpful, concise definition.)  There’s lots of eye-for-an-eye type language in The Code, which also pops up in Moses, too.

And to be fair, there are more similarities than these.  But of far more striking significance are the differences:

  • Sanctity of human life.  The Code of Hammurabi represents a lower view of human life than Moses.  For instance, in The Code of Hammurabi, the consequence for theft is to repay ten- to thirty-fold. If that’s not possible, the thief is executed.  That’s never the case in Moses.
  • Favoring the privileged vs. protecting the oppressed.  Protection of the oppressed is near to God’s heart; not so much with Hammurabi.  Many of Hammurabi’s laws favor the free and wealthy.
  • Justice.  Though some of The Code of Hammurabi is just, much of it is eminently unjust.  There is no injustice at all in the law of Moses.
  • Mercy.  The notion of mercy is exceedingly rare in Hammurabi, but appears with regularity in Moses.
  • The focus of the laws.  The vast majority of The Code of Hammurabi concerns money, property, and business transactions.  While these are addressed in Moses, the focus on moral laws, loving and honoring God and taking care of man’s relationship to God are strong emphases in Moses.

These are but a few of the differences that pose real problems for those who try to argue that Moses borrowed from Hammurabi.  The two codes (i.e., of Hammurabi and of Moses) come from different starting points and points of authority.

There is an insufficient fear of God and this can lead to horrific evil some of the worst of which you highlight above. Believing in God or being a priest does not in any way stop someone from committing evil deeds. A genuine fear of God however often does. Societies that abandon God can embrace evil and call it good for good becomes subjective and can defined by whomever is in power and writes the laws.

Proverbs 9:10
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom"

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As Karl Marx said, Religion is opiate of the masses. Not just christianity, but all religions are poison.

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