Christianity is Poison

[Sadlife]

Actually bro i think it's not just Christianity but also all the organize religions exclusive groups to manage control so it's easier to divide and controls us. How many wars have been declared all for the sake of their beloved religion? Honestly i dont believe the existence of god from rational and realistic perspective. Thinking logically, only god and the devil could exist beyond our knowledge of the world but if god were to exist he wouldn't  let this absurdity to happen were his own creations kill, steal and annihilate each other.

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[babarian]

I'm only here to start the conversation because I'm tired of seeing "Atheism is Poison" thread being bumped daily... can't you assholes give the anti-Atheist bigotry a break for a single fucking day?!?

If you really need someone to elaborate on all the ways that religion poisons people's mind, body, soul and the planet... I can do that...



Please, someone tell me how believing in a magic sky God is better than not believing in a magic sky God...  How does believing in fairy tales help a person in any way whatsoever?

[Sithara007]

Hmm... most of the white supremacists are not Christian. And many of them are against the Catholic church and the pope, after the latter urged the European nations to accept more Muslim immigrants.

[Moloch]

Hmm... most of the white supremacists are not Christian. And many of them are against the Catholic church and the pope, after the latter urged the European nations to accept more Muslim immigrants.

That's fucking hilarious

Got any evidence to support such a false claim?

Have you not noticed white supremacists burning crosses?  Crosses are christian symbols!

Do you seriously spread bullshit because you are a christian and don't want to believe white supremacists are like you?

Here is a fact:

Christian Identity ("CI") is not an organized religion, instead it is adhered to by individuals, churches and some prison gangs with a white supremacist theology that promotes a racial interpretation of Christianity. Christian Identity beliefs were primarily developed and promoted by two authors who considered Europeans to be the chosen people and Jews to be the cursed offspring of Cain, the "serpent hybrid" (or Serpent seed (a belief known as the two-seedline doctrine). An early Christian Identity teacher, Wesley A. Swift, formulated the doctrine that non-Caucasian peoples have no souls and therefore can never earn God's favor or be saved. The theology was promoted by George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party.

Christian Identity dictates that all non-whites (people not of wholly European descent) on the planet will either be exterminated or enslaved (Dominion Theology) in order to serve the White race in the new Heavenly Kingdom on Earth under the reign of Jesus Christ. CI doctrine states that non-whites can never achieve salvation or paradise, instead it states that only "Adamic" (white people) can achieve salvation and paradise.

Fairly conclusive wouldn't you say?

[inevertell]

not only Christianity but all religions is poison for mind of society

[Lancelot04]

Yep, people are blinded. But this religion keeps people from doing harsh things. So, this can be useful also. But for those who understand truly are lucky.

[CoinCube]

Why We Should Be Compassionate Toward Atheists
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/johnclark/why-we-should-be-compassionate-toward-atheists

Atheism is gaining converts every day, and we have a rather daunting job of evangelizing those who would rather God did not exist.

Dr. Thomas Nagel, professor of philosophy at New York University, wrote in his 1997 book, The Last Word:

I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-formed people I know are religious believers.  It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief.  It’s that I hope there is no God!  I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that.

Whether or not Dr. Nagel intended to speak for anyone other than himself, I suspect his sentiments are shared by many atheists who not only don’t believe there is a God, but “don’t want there to be a God.”  

From the standpoint of Christianity, this prompts this question: Why would anyone not want a loving God to exist?  This is a question that all apologists—indeed, all Christians who seek to evangelize atheists—must ask and attempt to answer.  Because if we don’t know the answer to that question, we can have all the other answers to all the other questions, and it won’t matter.  For instance, we can talk about the inexplicable characteristics of the Shroud of Turin, the tilma of Guadalupe, the sun dancing at Fatima, the incorruptibles, and the Eucharistic miracle in Lanciano, but we may not have addressed the real issue for those who wish atheism to be true.    

There may be lots of reasons for atheism’s recent prevalence, but it is clear that the rise in atheism has taken place alongside the fall of the family.  Is there a connection between the two?  In his book Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism, psychologist Dr. Paul Vitz answers in the affirmative.  

Specifically, Vitz argues that a father often exerts a powerful influence on his child’s concept of God.  (Since his original book was published in 1999, other studies have provided support for this point.)  Dr. Vitz takes a biographical tour of modern atheists and discovers a relatively consistent thread: “Looking back at our thirteen major historical rejecters of a personal God, we find a weak, dead, or abusive father in every case.”  Of course, it is not true, nor is Vitz making the case, that every atheist had a bad father—or that the mere absence of a father must propel one to atheism.  It would also be a fallacy to claim that each atheist’s fundamental reason for embracing atheism is his paternal relationship.  But to Vitz’s point (and consistent with the findings of other studies), it is legitimate to argue that some persons may be predisposed to atheism because of their family circumstances.

In his book, Jesus of Nazareth, Pope Benedict XVI makes an interesting point along the same lines, alluding to the connection between fatherhood and faith.  Pointing out that the “Our Father” is a great prayer of consolation, insofar as it recognizes and professes God as our Father with Whom we have a personal relationship, Pope Benedict XVI notes that consolation is not experienced by everyone:

It is true, of course, that contemporary men and women have difficulty experiencing the great consolation of the word father immediately, since the experience of the father is in many cases either completely absent or is obscured by inadequate examples of fatherhood.”  

As Pope Benedict suggests, the idea of God as a father can be a painful reminder that their own father did not, could not, or would not love them. Thus, the idea of spending fifteen minutes, much less eternity, with a “father” is remarkably unpleasant.  

Where does that leave those who are sincerely and charitably trying to convey God’s love to those who are so desperate to disbelieve?  Perhaps it starts by recognizing that they are hurt, and what we should do is act with compassion instead of trying to win a debate with them.  If you convince someone that their best hope is to spend eternity with a Being they equate with someone who has been abusive to them, you have done them no favors.  You may do well to first explain to them who God is, and what God’s love means to you.

[Moloch]

Why would anyone not want a God to exist?

That's easy... it's really a lot simpler than you might think

We've read the bible

That's it... simple wasn't it?

Atheists do not want the god of the bible to exist... because we've read the bible... and see what the bible says about that god... we understand that the god of the bible acts in evil ways... we do not want this god to exist because we would never follow such a god... it would be quite sad if the bible was true... quite sad indeed

It isn't that atheists hate god... atheists hate YOUR god... I would love for a god to exist, just not the god of the bible... because I've read the bible, and that is a shitty god

[patz22]

Christianity is NOT a poison. Well Im a Christian and also i respect whatever religion or beliefs people have. Whether you believe or not I will always respect your beliefs and all of us should do. I still believe that there is only ONE creator for all of us.

[BADecker]

Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

[BADecker]

don't worry the kind of sins world is going through now .............i mean those will have to end some day , no God of any religion will save earth coz we r approaching 3rd world war at some point of time if not today may be in 150 years of time , this time it will be a nuclear one and the world is going to be destroyed, its the humans who will do it not the GODS and according to Nostradamus predictions' 3rd world war have already started with the Middle East crisis and terrorism  those r  kind of  fires i mean what he actually mentioned;D

God has made Himself obedient to the requests of mankind. God will destroy the universe at the request and behest of mankind. That's why He is making the New Heavens and the New earth... for those who don't want the destruction, but follow God and believe in Jesus salvation.

[CoinCube]

Why would anyone not want a God to exist?

That's easy... it's really a lot simpler than you might think

We've read the bible

That's it... simple wasn't it?

Atheists do not want the god of the bible to exist... because we've read the bible... and see what the bible says about that god... we understand that the god of the bible acts in evil ways... we do not want this god to exist because we would never follow such a god... it would be quite sad if the bible was true... quite sad indeed

It isn't that atheists hate god... atheists hate YOUR god... I would love for a god to exist, just not the god of the bible... because I've read the bible, and that is a shitty god

Moloch you may be suprised to know that I am actually sympathetic to your position as I was a strong agnostic for most of my adult life. I ended up that way in precisely the way you describe by reading the Old Testament and being turned off by the barbarism of those times. That combined with a very sceptical personality and exposure in my youth to a disproportionate number of inarticulate religious folks set me on a 20 year path of firm agnosticism. I viewed the religious as foolish holding quaint but outdated and untrue views.

It took me the better part of a quarter century before I gradually realized that the inarticulate bumpkins of my youth despite their lack of sophistication were more or less correct and it was I with my smug intellectual superiority that had adopted the untenable position.

I reached the conclusion not due to any great spiritual event or conversation but the application of logic and consequence. Below is the logic that pulled me away from agnosticism. Its essentially an essay divided into 5 parts. I recommend reading if for no other reason then to understand the logical basis of an opposing view.

Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
The Beginning of Wisdom
Faith and Future
The More Rational Model

[Sithara007]

Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

This sort of thinking is exactly why people claim that Christianity is poison. As long as the Christians keep to themselves and stop aggressive proselytization, no one will be having problems. Even in my country, they try to forcibly convert people to Christianity.

[gabmen]

Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

This sort of thinking is exactly why people claim that Christianity is poison. As long as the Christians keep to themselves and stop aggressive proselytization, no one will be having problems. Even in my country, they try to forcibly convert people to Christianity.

I agree. Actually its not just christianity but religion in general. If we stop thinking about divisions and forcing our beliefs into other people's minds, we'd be more well of as human beings, not christians, not muslims, not jews, not atheists but human beings.

[mariahh]

Hey!I have to say that this is a very nice thread.An intresting aspect was said in a humorous way.I have to confess that truly some of these things worried me (and I think that I am not the only one).However there are still few things that I admire in Christianity.I don't believe that these two different kinds or beliefes have to be in conflict, because they are not even in contrast.Christians believe in God,ahteists from the other hand  do not believe in any kind of God.Anyway just be peacefull!

[BADecker]

Hey!I have to say that this is a very nice thread.An intresting aspect was said in a humorous way.I have to confess that truly some of these things worried me (and I think that I am not the only one).However there are still few things that I admire in Christianity.I don't believe that these two different kinds or beliefes have to be in conflict, because they are not even in contrast.Christians believe in God,ahteists from the other hand  do not believe in any kind of God.Anyway just be peacefull!

There aren't any atheists. There are only some people who say they are atheists. Why? The so-called atheists know that they don't know that God doesn't exist. So, they know that they can't believe that He doesn't exist. But nature shows everybody that God must exist.

Because of this, people who believe God aren't believing in His existence. They are believing what they think He tells them... or what He DOES tell them. So-called atheists are trying to hide the fact of God from themselves.

[BADecker]

Christianity is God's goal on earth, to keep Him from destroying the earth because of the imperfection of mankind. If Christianity hadn't been planned right from the fall of mankind into sin, God would have destroyed the earth, and possibly the whole universe, the second sin came into existence.

This sort of thinking is exactly why people claim that Christianity is poison. As long as the Christians keep to themselves and stop aggressive proselytization, no one will be having problems. Even in my country, they try to forcibly convert people to Christianity.

I agree. Actually its not just christianity but religion in general. If we stop thinking about divisions and forcing our beliefs into other people's minds, we'd be more well of as human beings, not christians, not muslims, not jews, not atheists but human beings.

Who is forcing their beliefs into anyone's mind? People who think this way are simply recognizing that they believe in God. And it makes them uncomfortable to have double-thoughts within themselves. Nobody can force anybody else to believe anything without some hands-on, tied-down form of brainwashing.

[newsilike]

what u need to be aware of is that Jesus himself was never a christian - he was a real freedomfighter - no other man split time BC/AD

[JTASSOCIATES]

It is not true. Don't follow the Christian person or Muslim person or any other cost following persons. Non of the religion say wrong to any body the people who follow poison. this is my point of view.

and My Policy is live and let to live.

[Moloch]

I am a Hindu , i will remain like that , i will never say Christianity is a poison, yes there are people in every religion who are cheaters and they like to use others for their own benefit, but its a pity to see Muslims producing terrorists, check the recent Spain attack, although the religion is not so bad
and all gods of different religions never prescribed to kill people

Clearly you haven't read the bible...

The god of the bible commands his followers to kill people at least 100 different times... it's sick

I agree that no god "SHOULD" prescribe his followers to murder people, but the bible does exactly that

Here is just one example: (I chose this example because the bible says to murder your own son, rather than a foreigner)

If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.