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[Phildo]

serious question for all believers.

how can you sit there while mrcoins shills?

Isn't him saying the same things about this coin that he said about xpy a red flag?

MrCoins feeds them tons of BTC. They'll trust any word that comes out of his mouth. The coin could cease to exist and MrCoins would still say positive things about it. He only makes profit if he gets more people to invest.

I find it funny that during the XPY days he was shilling hardcore even though it was an obvious scam. Once shit "officially" hit the fan, he went and hid. Didn't face the music of all the damage he caused people by his rampant shilling. Then he pops back up and they convert all his coins for him and welcome him with open arms.

The team isn't stupid. They know he'll throw BTC after BTC at the team and BTC seems to be ultimately what they want to get.

I understand why the team uses him, i don't understand why the whales don't see his use as a big red flag. they don't see any of the other red flags either, but this one seems especially bad.

If mr coins said the sky was blue I would look out the window to double check.

He is doing the exact same shilling for this as he did for xpy, how could xpy bagholders not see this and be freaked out?

[altheshort]

serious question for all believers.

how can you sit there while mrcoins shills?

Isn't him saying the same things about this coin that he said about xpy a red flag?

MrCoins feeds them tons of BTC. They'll trust any word that comes out of his mouth. The coin could cease to exist and MrCoins would still say positive things about it. He only makes profit if he gets more people to invest.

I find it funny that during the XPY days he was shilling hardcore even though it was an obvious scam. Once shit "officially" hit the fan, he went and hid. Didn't face the music of all the damage he caused people by his rampant shilling. Then he pops back up and they convert all his coins for him and welcome him with open arms.

The team isn't stupid. They know he'll throw BTC after BTC at the team and BTC seems to be ultimately what they want to get.

I understand why the team uses him, i don't understand why the whales don't see his use as a big red flag. they don't see any of the other red flags either, but this one seems especially bad.

If mr coins said the sky was blue I would look out the window to double check.

He is doing the exact same shilling for this as he did for xpy, how could xpy bagholders not see this and be freaked out?

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

[suchmoon]

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203975.0
http://transfercoin.io/

[CryptoBuds]

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203975.0
http://transfercoin.io/

They even have the same logo

[Franz_Huber]

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203975.0
http://transfercoin.io/

They even have the same logo

let the blockchain breathe for big innovate.

[o0o0]

There's a couple of things to bear in mind, in my opinion. Firstly, remember that MrCoins is a likely whale himself, and there's not many of them so it's in their interests to keep each other relatively sweet as if any one of them bales then it will drive their collective investment down in value. For that reason I think there's a certain amount of toleration of bullshit that goes on between them.

Secondly, remember that MrCoins is a seasoned investor, and not just in crypto. For all his happy-clappy-community-cheerleading-positivism, he knows exactly what's going on and has been around the block enough times to probably make very worthwhile suggestions behind the closed doors of the whale meetings, though whether the team actually act on that advice is a different matter.

Thirdly, and finally, I would bet my bottom dollar that even though he publicly presents himself as having lost out big time in XPY, he was shrewd enough to mitigate the loss in reality, and maybe even came out with profit. He's been involved in too many crypto communities to have not seen the signs, even when publicly he presented himself as otherwise. The other whales likely realise this and follow his lead to an extent because honestly, they're all driven by the same desire -- money.

How is it that being so smart he ends up investing in at least two shitty coins one after another? One outright scam and one... whatever this is, lame comedy of some sort.

He's eloquent in his shilling, I'll give him that (pivoting from "iond is fine" to "great decision to replace it" was as smooth as it gets) but I find it hard to believe he's both smart AND putting a lot of BTC into this. He's either smart and is trolling them, or dumb as a rock and actually pouring money into this shitshow.

Anyway, this is where the new clone is coming from:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203975.0
http://transfercoin.io/

where is it stated they are cloning that? or is it inferred. does this mean no more dash meets blackcoin or whatever?

what happened to their smart devs and technology breakthroughs? if its cloned its been done and thus not a breakthrough. also you arent a dev if you dont make new stuff. see research and development means making new. cloning isnt new... you are a programmer but not a dev. ions shit. they should just give up use their ico cash to buy gamecredits or digibyte which are gaming coins. based on ion,atom holdings distribute those bought coins and work on a game platform. its clear they cant handle a coin that had no reason to be born. they only made a coin cause like all other icos they can make free money.

ps - korvas and wildshill quiet lately. im taking silence as them being embarrassed and not wanting to commit. jan 14 is mid jan so unfortunately korvas has to strongly question them his words. please report the outcome of that korvas.

[kken01]

yes. confirmed by matlack


also the dev of transfercoin joined ion slack (infernoman - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=321984)


matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)




ps: did you know bittrex already wanted to list ion but the team said NO?    


still overvalued

[suchmoon]

ps: did you know bittrex already wanted to list ion but the team said NO?    

Just like good old times. Target, Amazon, and SpaceX are queuing up to use XPY ION, the "team" is posting ambiguous press releases, and the details (if any) are buried deep inside slack. And apparently the business plan is so brilliant that this thing will fly without QA (or project management in general) despite having failed once or twice already.

[o0o0]

yes. confirmed by matlack


also the dev of transfercoin joined ion slack (infernoman - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=321984)


matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)




ps: did you know bittrex already wanted to list ion but the team said NO?    


still overvalued

o for fucks sake ffs. bittrex doesnt come begging thats some serious garza shill shit. o please ion let us list you. they could do it in a heartbeat and ionomy cant stop because its i dunno a fucking decentralised ledger. grow up bittrex didnt beg else it would be added. ion is a fucked copy paste wallet

[altheshort]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

[korvas128]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves. Think about who they are targeting it's the casual mobile gamer... how big is this market... in 2017 courtesy of NewZoo they reckon the market is going to be worth $26 Billion.

When I read comments like Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto that's just plain wrong the market isn't just a country or a region it's the planet !!!

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

Ionomy is an opportunity like any other that has it's risks. To ignore it is just plain stupid but hey I'm just expressing an opinion  . each to his own

     

[altheshort]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves. Think about who they are targeting it's the casual mobile gamer... how big is this market... in 2017 courtesy of NewZoo they reckon the market is going to be worth $26 Billion.

When I read comments like Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto that's just plain wrong the market isn't just a country or a region it's the planet !!!

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

Ionomy is an opportunity like any other that has it's risks. To ignore it is just plain stupid but hey I'm just expressing an opinion  . each to his own

     

I didn't claim that this is a scam or run by thieves. In fact I've specifically said in the past that I don't think it's a scam, simply that I think it's like most crypto projects of this type.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, and to defend your sizeable investment in the project so far. I just don't see how ionomy will take even 1% of such a crowded and competitive market when it has such a clunky and muddled concept at its core, with crypto almost shoehorned in. Mobile gaming does not need crypto, it doesn't streamline anything and it's another example of a crypto solution (well, sort of) in search of a problem that doesn't really exist.

Best of luck nonetheless.

[o0o0]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves. Think about who they are targeting it's the casual mobile gamer... how big is this market... in 2017 courtesy of NewZoo they reckon the market is going to be worth $26 Billion.

When I read comments like Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto that's just plain wrong the market isn't just a country or a region it's the planet !!!

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

Ionomy is an opportunity like any other that has it's risks. To ignore it is just plain stupid but hey I'm just expressing an opinion  . each to his own

     

ionomy is incompetent. there are copy pasters with no issues. xpy, ion wallet etc they havent got anything right. you take their posts as truth. truth is they dont know what they are doing and you believe sny post they make without questioning. blackcoin, dash never fucked their coin up yet ion does? dont give me any its superior crap they copy pasted two coins. and 1% of market only works if they are competent.... start questioning them its mid jan soon.

[Phildo]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves. Think about who they are targeting it's the casual mobile gamer... how big is this market... in 2017 courtesy of NewZoo they reckon the market is going to be worth $26 Billion.

When I read comments like Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto that's just plain wrong the market isn't just a country or a region it's the planet !!!

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

Ionomy is an opportunity like any other that has it's risks. To ignore it is just plain stupid but hey I'm just expressing an opinion  . each to his own

     

Why on earth do you think they would be capable of getting .01%?

And again, even if these super devs who have fucked up everything else they've touched so far are somehow successful with gravity, there is still no explanation as to how that makes you bagholders money.

[suchmoon]

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

They need to be more successful than thousands of other game developers. And that's not going to happen with a part-time game developer, a freelance coin developer, a cloak-and-dagger "team", and a dozen or two of bagholders with some unrealistic hopes.

Well, I guess the "team" can make a profit off the bagholders, which is what they have been doing so far. But to make a profit off an actual product in the real world takes a bit more than, like an actual ability to produce, market, and support said product. Highly unlikely given their track record with CLONING someone's work.

[korvas128]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves. Think about who they are targeting it's the casual mobile gamer... how big is this market... in 2017 courtesy of NewZoo they reckon the market is going to be worth $26 Billion.

When I read comments like Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto that's just plain wrong the market isn't just a country or a region it's the planet !!!

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

Ionomy is an opportunity like any other that has it's risks. To ignore it is just plain stupid but hey I'm just expressing an opinion  . each to his own

     

I didn't claim that this is a scam or run by thieves. In fact I've specifically said in the past that I don't think it's a scam, simply that I think it's like most crypto projects of this type.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, and to defend your sizeable investment in the project so far. I just don't see how ionomy will take even 1% of such a crowded and competitive market when it has such a clunky and muddled concept at its core, with crypto almost shoehorned in. Mobile gaming does not need crypto, it doesn't streamline anything and it's another example of a crypto solution (well, sort of) in search of a problem that doesn't really exist.

Best of luck nonetheless.

Sorry and Thanks

Although I would be very happy if Ionomy in year 1 gained .5% marketshare as they would become a $100 million business... not bad for a startup 

[Franz_Huber]

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves.

Didn't you say that you would start your exit plan if Ionomy does not publish Gravity until end of December 2016? Was that another lie, korvas128? Probably so, because you are with the Ionomy gang of crooks and shills.

[korvas128]

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

They need to be more successful than thousands of other game developers. And that's not going to happen with a part-time game developer, a freelance coin developer, a cloak-and-dagger "team", and a dozen or two of bagholders with some unrealistic hopes.

Well, I guess the "team" can make a profit off the bagholders, which is what they have been doing so far. But to make a profit off an actual product in the real world takes a bit more than, like an actual ability to produce, market, and support said product. Highly unlikely given their track record with CLONING someone's work.

Your wrong on so many levels but that's your opinion and I respect that plus trying to convince you otherwise would be like shooting myself in the foot

[Franz_Huber]

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves.

Didn't you say that you would start your exit plan if Ionomy does not publish Gravity until end of December 2016? Was that another lie, korvas128? Probably so, because you are with the Ionomy gang of crooks and shills.

Your so rude and ill mannered why?

If your going to quote earlier statements then quote the whole lot.

I'm a crook and a shill ?  

I would say go fuck yourself but you probably do that already so I won't and anyway that would lower myself to your level - Pond life.

You're deflecting again. What's the reason you don't act on the ionomy scam exit deadline you set yourself for end of December 2016?

[korvas128]

matlack practices too much wishful thinking. this thing about gamers going to bittrex still makes 0 sense to me (on many levels)

Oh, come on. That's just nonsense and proves to me beyond doubt that they really haven't thought this through. The crossover between casual mobile gamers (who presumably they are targeting by putting the games on the app stores) and people who will have any desire at all to sign up to a crypto currency exchange entirely separate to the game they've been playing on their mobile device will be minuscule. Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto. Not going to happen, I'm sorry.

Come on guys take one step back not everything is a scam or run by thieves. Think about who they are targeting it's the casual mobile gamer... how big is this market... in 2017 courtesy of NewZoo they reckon the market is going to be worth $26 Billion.

When I read comments like Most mobile gamers simply won't be interested in crypto that's just plain wrong the market isn't just a country or a region it's the planet !!!

Break it down $26 Billion = $26,000 million so 1% = $260 Million............ how successful do you think ionomy need to be to be profitable.... not as much as you think

Ionomy is an opportunity like any other that has it's risks. To ignore it is just plain stupid but hey I'm just expressing an opinion  . each to his own

     

Why on earth do you think they would be capable of getting .01%?

And again, even if these super devs who have fucked up everything else they've touched so far are somehow successful with gravity, there is still no explanation as to how that makes you bagholders money.

.01% = $2.6 million business = probably a profitable business

I've been playing Gravity since the first Alpha and can testify it's a good game. Those that love platform games will love it those that don't won't.

What exactly do you mean a track record of fucking things up ? so they are late big deal. If Ionomy were a cash grab then Gravity would have been launched months ago and they'd be on their 3rd game plus all the games would be crap & Ionomy would be at best be a flaky platform.