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If only your mining prowess were true...... doesn't explain why you've spent 2 years trolling this thread but it does explain the chip on your shoulder though... GAW, Cointerria, KnCMiner, Butterfly labs, etc..... ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch....... Incompetent team ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I would expect nothing less from a simpleton like you that fails to grasp the complexities of crypto Ok, I guess I was wrong about you screaming "photoshop" or "Australia"... you came up with a bunch of other nonsense. Does that make you feel better about your ION bags? I hope it does. korvas posted plucked figures i dont see references links for assumptions. coins grow drop im sure wasnt 17 ion all the time coulda been higher at start lower now with more nodes. what are the ranges? when was the buy when was the sell. no takings along the way? i did a best, worst and average when i showed mine and used coinmarket cap or some site in the post for historical data. korvas is accusing of plucked data then does the same? reference and show working or its plucked figures korvas. I used are very conservative numbers in response to 45-55k sat at ICO time, barely 30k now and the wallet is borked... no, I would have been poorer.
Okay more detail......... $4,000 for a masternode is based on an initial ICO price of $.2 the max ICO price was $.25 then for many months ion traded below $.2 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ion/https://news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/Today masternode payout currently around 25 ion per day I used a number of 17https://ionomy.com/11,000 ION based on a 17 x 730 day calculation does not take into account the annual block reward drop of 23 ion per block to 17 https://ionomy.com/about/whitepaper$30,000 , $50,000 & $80,000 ion value based on yesterday's Bittrex price https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-IONAnd finally the $84,000 BTC price was based on coinmarketcap historic pricing https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/ Oh and hosting a masternode 24/7 is easy irrelevant of your technical ability Suchmoons comment is rubbish so feel free to pull out your charts and prove me wrong ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) rememeber the undoing of cryptsy masternode/paycoin now ION(bittrex) lock step same movie ...:\ hmmm
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March 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM |
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Suchmoons comment is rubbish so feel free to pull out your charts and prove me wrong ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You were the one claiming I would have been a lot richer... and failed to show that even assuming an ideal scenario, i.e. one full masternode, always online. How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets? Here is the thing with mining that you have no clue about: at any given time I don't risk more than 1% of my investment (closer to 0.5% these days) to any third party (e.g. exchange or pool), I don't need to keep any coins other than the 0.5-1% online, I have good liquidity, and I don't depend on someone else making money for me. You may not like it because Garza told you that POS is superior and that's fine. But lying to ME about ME hasn't worked before and it won't work now... you need to rethink you shilling strategy. How about you tell us how the wallet fix is going, or how great the games are (if there are any). I need a laugh, please.
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March 21, 2018, 06:57:34 PM |
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Suchmoons comment is rubbish so feel free to pull out your charts and prove me wrong ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You were the one claiming I would have been a lot richer... and failed to show that even assuming an ideal scenario, i.e. one full masternode, always online. How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets? Here is the thing with mining that you have no clue about: at any given time I don't risk more than 1% of my investment (closer to 0.5% these days) to any third party (e.g. exchange or pool), I don't need to keep any coins other than the 0.5-1% online, I have good liquidity, and I don't depend on someone else making money for me. You may not like it because Garza told you that POS is superior and that's fine. But lying to ME about ME hasn't worked before and it won't work now... you need to rethink you shilling strategy. How about you tell us how the wallet fix is going, or how great the games are (if there are any). I need a laugh, please. Lets not get side tracked..... 45-55k sat at ICO time, barely 30k now and the wallet is borked... no, I would have been poorer.
What you posted is rubbish, I challenge it and your response is an attempt to move the discussion off topic to your carbon friendly mining operation. I have no clue why you mention Garza but I guess when you have a massive chip on your shoulder it makes perfect sense. Let people read your rubbish and decide for themselves
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March 21, 2018, 07:10:50 PM |
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Lets not get side tracked..... 45-55k sat at ICO time, barely 30k now and the wallet is borked... no, I would have been poorer.
What you posted is rubbish, I challenge it and your response is an attempt to move the discussion off topic to your carbon friendly mining operation. I have no clue why you mention Garza but I guess when you have a massive chip on your shoulder it makes perfect sense. Let people read your rubbish and decide for themselves What I posted is called "facts". That was the ICO price and that is the price now and the wallet is broken. Your hard-on for POS is duly noted but it's a paycoining fallacy. Inflation doesn't produce wealth. What you're trying to do by making stupid claims about me is called "off-topic bullshit", i.e. has nothing to do with ION, in addition to being false.
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March 21, 2018, 10:11:04 PM |
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “[coin age],” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. ION announces partnership with RyanSieg Racing, attends GDC, meeting with top game developers and game companies, promoting coin and building new partnerships.
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March 22, 2018, 06:52:57 AM |
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Lets not get side tracked..... 45-55k sat at ICO time, barely 30k now and the wallet is borked... no, I would have been poorer.
What you posted is rubbish, I challenge it and your response is an attempt to move the discussion off topic to your carbon friendly mining operation. I have no clue why you mention Garza but I guess when you have a massive chip on your shoulder it makes perfect sense. Let people read your rubbish and decide for themselves What I posted is called "facts". That was the ICO price and that is the price now and the wallet is broken. Your hard-on for POS is duly noted but it's a paycoining fallacy. Inflation doesn't produce wealth. What you're trying to do by making stupid claims about me is called "off-topic bullshit", i.e. has nothing to do with ION, in addition to being false. The facts aren't rubbish it's your interpretation of these facts that is rubbish. Trying to position an ION investment made 2 years ago as a bad thing is quite frankly laughable Comparing Paycoin to Ion isn't down to your ignorance of POS it's down to your 2 year bunny boiler obsession trying to link GAW/Garza with ION/IONOMY when no link exists. Take that chip off your shoulder and move on with your life Also help me understand why your carbon friendly mining operation is on topic
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March 22, 2018, 04:10:04 PM |
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The facts aren't rubbish it's your interpretation of these facts that is rubbish.
Trying to position an ION investment made 2 years ago as a bad thing is quite frankly laughable
Comparing Paycoin to Ion isn't down to your ignorance of POS it's down to your 2 year bunny boiler obsession trying to link GAW/Garza with ION/IONOMY when no link exists.
Take that chip off your shoulder and move on with your life
Also help me understand why your carbon friendly mining operation is on topic
Carbon friendly LOL. You are truly an exemplary paycoiner, aka fucking moron. You are the one trying to make this about me. You claimed that I would have been richer if I bought ION, which is provably false. Let it go. Facts are facts, not my problem if you don't like them. Are you now done or do you need a few more pages to whine about me? No? Back to ION? How's the wallet breathing?
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March 22, 2018, 05:47:31 PM |
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... Back to ION? How's the wallet breathing?
In need of CPR...
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March 22, 2018, 07:19:37 PM |
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Comments... Carbon friendly LOL. You are truly an exemplary paycoiner, aka fucking moron.
Being called a fucking moron by you is a badge of honour ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , still don't understand though what your Carbon mining prowess has got to do with the discussion on this thread, maybe your still confused about the differences between POS & POW You are the one trying to make this about me. You claimed that I would have been richer if I bought ION, which is provably false. Let it go.
About profitability... When I said my numbers were conservative I was being serious. For instance I didn't factor in the first year reward of 23 ion per block vs the current 17 ion 365 days x 23 ion = 8,365 365 days x 17 ion = 6,205 Total = 14,570 x $2.57 = $37,444.9. Just this one element alone pushes the profitability up $7,000 so $3,000 higher than the BTC value of $84,000. Well done for making me work harder than intended, feel free to respond with your own data. Facts are facts, not my problem if you don't like them. Are you now done or do you need a few more pages to whine about me? No? Back to ION? How's the wallet breathing?
I said I don't have a problem with the facts it's your bunny boiling, bullying & trolling demeanour that I sometimes take objection to. Concerning the wallet it's doing just fine thanks soon to be released.
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March 22, 2018, 08:30:45 PM |
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Being called a fucking moron by you is a badge of honour ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , still don't understand though what your Carbon mining prowess has got to do with the discussion on this thread, maybe your still confused about the differences between POS & POW Well, you're the fucking moron who brought mining up and you're the one whining about it... what a surprise. Imagine buying $4,000 worth of BTC mining equipment in April 2016
I don't have to "imagine". I actually bought mining equipment in 2016 Pro tip: don't start a discussion about something you don't understand. About profitability... When I said my numbers were conservative I was being serious. For instance I didn't factor in the first year reward of 23 ion per block vs the current 17 ion
365 days x 23 ion = 8,365 365 days x 17 ion = 6,205
Total = 14,570 x $2.57 = $37,444.9. Just this one element alone pushes the profitability up $7,000 so $3,000 higher than the BTC value of $84,000. Well done for making me work harder than intended,
Your math is beautifully paycoining. Reward per block does not equal masternode earnings per day. Looks like ionomy was quite successful dredging Garza's cesspool to find blind illiterate bottom feeders like you. Maybe you should go back to peddling your "work from home" scams. This crypto thing is too much hard work for you. feel free to respond with your own data.
I already have but your pea brain is incapable of grasping it... How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets?
I don't think you can make yourself look more of a clown but you will probably surprise me again.
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korvas128
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March 23, 2018, 06:02:18 PM |
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Being called a fucking moron by you is a badge of honour ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , still don't understand though what your Carbon mining prowess has got to do with the discussion on this thread, maybe your still confused about the differences between POS & POW Well, you're the fucking moron who brought mining up and you're the one whining about it... what a surprise. Imagine buying $4,000 worth of BTC mining equipment in April 2016
I don't have to "imagine". I actually bought mining equipment in 2016 Pro tip: don't start a discussion about something you don't understand. About profitability... When I said my numbers were conservative I was being serious. For instance I didn't factor in the first year reward of 23 ion per block vs the current 17 ion
365 days x 23 ion = 8,365 365 days x 17 ion = 6,205
Total = 14,570 x $2.57 = $37,444.9. Just this one element alone pushes the profitability up $7,000 so $3,000 higher than the BTC value of $84,000. Well done for making me work harder than intended,
Your math is beautifully paycoining. Reward per block does not equal masternode earnings per day. Looks like ionomy was quite successful dredging Garza's cesspool to find blind illiterate bottom feeders like you. Maybe you should go back to peddling your "work from home" scams. This crypto thing is too much hard work for you. feel free to respond with your own data.
I already have but your pea brain is incapable of grasping it... How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets?
I don't think you can make yourself look more of a clown but you will probably surprise me again. No it was you that brought mining into the discussion just before your POS comment, I didn't mention any mining equipment. Bringing up something you know absolutely nothing about (mining equipment) was a nice touch. See, I don't have to "imagine". I actually bought mining equipment in 2016, as well as in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2018. I now have more bitcoins and more fiat than I had in 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, or 2013, and I still have the equipment buzzing happily making more coins. That's how mining works. Not having to depend on an incompetent team and a broken exchange is a bonus.
I took a worse case scenario when I put those numbers together and it still came out more profitable than had I bought and held the equivalent in BTC. Your response as always is just insults. How about some maths to back up your statements or an example of how the Miner you bought in 2016 is so much better. Yesterday the masternode I started in April 2016 daily payout was around 24 ION/.0071436 BTC/$61.68 and is set to give me an income this month of around $1,800. The monthly running cost is higher than normal at around $12, the node is running 24/7 on a VPS. How does that compare to the 2016 miner you still have running ? what is it ? how much are you earning and how much does it cost you to run ?
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March 23, 2018, 08:13:36 PM |
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No it was you that brought mining into the discussion just before your POS comment, I didn't mention any mining equipment.
Actually you did. Here is the quote again. Imagine buying $4,000 worth of BTC mining equipment in April 2016
I don't have to "imagine". I actually bought mining equipment in 2016 I love how you keep lying and lying and lying on top of other lies, like this one here: About profitability... When I said my numbers were conservative I was being serious. For instance I didn't factor in the first year reward of 23 ion per block vs the current 17 ion
365 days x 23 ion = 8,365 365 days x 17 ion = 6,205
Reward per block does not equal masternode earnings per day.
I took a worse case scenario when I put those numbers together and it still came out more profitable than had I bought and held the equivalent in BTC. Your response as always is just insults. How about some maths to back up your statements or an example of how the Miner you bought in 2016 is so much better. Yesterday the masternode I started in April 2016 daily payout was around 24 ION/.0071436 BTC/$61.68 and is set to give me an income this month of around $1,800. The monthly running cost is higher than normal at around $12, the node is running 24/7 on a VPS.
How does that compare to the 2016 miner you still have running ? what is it ? how much are you earning and how much does it cost you to run ?
Yeah right. First you whine when I post about mining, now you want me to post about mining. Start a new thread in the appropriate board if you want to discuss that. Back to topic - no, what you're posting is not the "worse case", it's pretty much the ideal case. You still haven't addressed this: How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets?
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March 23, 2018, 09:50:29 PM |
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I would answer it if I knew what it meant ? How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets?
What is it ?
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March 23, 2018, 09:58:40 PM |
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I would answer it if I knew what it meant ? How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets?
What is it ? Click on the link and read it in context, you illiterate paycoining dipshit.
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March 23, 2018, 11:49:07 PM |
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I would answer it if I knew what it meant ? How about 19k coins? Or 35k? Or cold wallets?
What is it ? Click on the link and read it in context, you illiterate paycoining dipshit. Could you please elaborate further ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) like I care. You've had plenty of opportunity to reinforce you comments with data but have chosen too squirm ..... shock horror surprise. My data is valid but surprise surprise you ridicule it even when I low ball the numbers ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ..... again a shocker never saw that coming. This was you March 23 2017 when ion was $.23 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F5738cc1e3d5fd16430d6cc910cabf22b.png&t=665&c=hWtncXsoLNBHmw) oh look trolling again...............shock horror. Word of the day is credibility, after 2 years trolling here do you think you have any credibility left ?
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March 23, 2018, 11:56:15 PM |
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Could you please elaborate further ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) like I care. You've had plenty of opportunity to reinforce you comments with data but have chosen too squirm ..... shock horror surprise. My data is valid but surprise surprise you ridicule it even when I low ball the numbers ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ..... again a shocker never saw that coming. This was you March 23 2017 when ion was $.23 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F5738cc1e3d5fd16430d6cc910cabf22b.png&t=665&c=hWtncXsoLNBHmw) oh look trolling again...............shock horror. Word of the day is credibility, after 2 years trolling here do you think you have any credibility left ? Of course, why would anyone excpect you to be able to click a link ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . You didn't low-ball the numbers, you picked an ideal case of one full masternode and you will avoid acknowledging any other possible scenario. Nice job with that screenshot. It was (and still is) factually correct. Nothing to do with the price either. The "team" doesn't give a shit about transparency.
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March 24, 2018, 12:58:14 AM |
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Could you please elaborate further ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) like I care. You've had plenty of opportunity to reinforce you comments with data but have chosen too squirm ..... shock horror surprise. My data is valid but surprise surprise you ridicule it even when I low ball the numbers ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ..... again a shocker never saw that coming. This was you March 23 2017 when ion was $.23 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F5738cc1e3d5fd16430d6cc910cabf22b.png&t=665&c=hWtncXsoLNBHmw) oh look trolling again...............shock horror. Word of the day is credibility, after 2 years trolling here do you think you have any credibility left ? Of course, why would anyone excpect you to be able to click a link ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . You didn't low-ball the numbers, you picked an ideal case of one full masternode and you will avoid acknowledging any other possible scenario. Nice job with that screenshot. It was (and still is) factually correct. Nothing to do with the price either. The "team" doesn't give a shit about transparency. So I didn't low ball my numbers when I didn't account for the fact that year 1 rewards were higher than year 2 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff3bbf81304fc3350a0b798fbefa9c494.png&t=665&c=BToATd5pRLXs5w) What about your numbers they were...... errr non existent All good though you as I don't care about your data you did exactly what I thought you would do. Discredit, Insult, Demean, Share nothing and of course ignore your own Mistakes (btw. loved your POS fuck up). Suchmoon = Such TROLLBTW. The team does give a shit about transparency they just don't give a shit about you. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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