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So the foundation:
  • Ditched the Auroracoin brand
  • Sold the vast majority its Auroracoins
  • Repurposed the proceeds to fund things not directly related to the coin

Let's face it. You guys abandoned the project.

To be clear we have not abandoned the project.  If anyone has abandoned the project it would be the Icelanders that claimed their coins in 2014 and either sold the coins or have simply waited for other people to get involved without personally getting involved or contributing in any significant manner.

1.  The Auroracoin brand has clearly not been ditched.  Whatever that means.

2.  Yes, 80% of the Auroracoin holdings were sold to fund the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation, of which Auroracoin is a significant interest.  Aside from the CEO salary, none of the proceeds (ever) went to individuals or team members.

3.  Yes, as explained the funds were repurposed but it is not accurate to say these uses are not directly related to the coin.  

This decision to found the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation, maintaining Auroracoin as a primary working group within the Foundation ,
has done wonders for the legitimacy and objectivity within and without the foundation.  Especially in developer and legislative circles.

While your comments are well-founded and welcome they do not represent the reality of the situation.

If you would like to participate we would welcome your contributions.

Michael Hannes


1: The CEO doesn't need to be paid, at least not with funds obtained by literally selling Auroracoin. If he believes in crypto and especially in Auroracoin he could have bought it himself from his own money. We all know this is bullshit.

2: The reality is, is that Auroracoin is going to be delisted from Bittrex. So you are NOT expanding but shrinking.

3: Show us where the money went from the 80% that has been sold. Show the receipts, bank statements or some kind of evidence where the money went. These are all very very easy answers you are giving. Zero evidence that the money is being used to create positive growth for AUR.

Furthermore, you are talking about meetups with a 100 people. Do you have any proof of that? Do you have photos or smth that proofs that there weren't 10 people at the Oct 11th meetup?

In short, the replies you gave us are filled with hopefull statements but that's it...just statements. I see no proof that what you wrote is actually true on the contrary the fact that AUR is going to be delisted from Bittrex is counterproof of your positive statements.

Normally I would accept proof like "project progression", but there isn't any progression with AUR so you have to provide something else.

Regards

1.  Stating that the full-time CEO of a national blockchain advocacy group does not need to be paid implies that you are basing your opinions on some subjective utopian reality where people's time and effort does not require compensation.  Not sure what you mean about him being able to buy his own coins as that is not related to salary.  

2.  Yes Bittrex is delisting AUR and that is unfortunate, however it does not change our efforts in regards to auroracoin.

3.  Why do you feel that you are owed these receipts and evidence of how the coins were used ?  This sounds like you have a warped sense of entitlement.  What have you done to warrant such inclusion within the project and foundations decisions?   What have you contributed if I may ask ?  How have you asked to be involved ?  


Doing a simple google search for "Icelandic Blockchain Foundation" will give you an idea of how the funds have been started to put into use.

It has been clearly stated that the decision was made to form the IBF to bolster the blockchain community in general in Iceland and that the IBF would have more ability as a neutral organization to make that happen.  This has attracted many more individuals to the community in general and in turn has given auroracoin exposure as well.

This was all done under strict by-laws and voting protocol conducted in an official meeting earlier this year.  That's just the way it is.  Everyone has their own opinions about how things could go or should go - but it is a fact of nature that things do not always go the way that you wished it would.

So you can FUD and complain all you want but it does not contribute to a constructive conversation.

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So the foundation:
  • Ditched the Auroracoin brand
  • Sold the vast majority its Auroracoins
  • Repurposed the proceeds to fund things not directly related to the coin

Let's face it. You guys abandoned the project.

To be clear we have not abandoned the project.  If anyone has abandoned the project it would be the Icelanders that claimed their coins in 2014 and either sold the coins or have simply waited for other people to get involved without personally getting involved or contributing in any significant manner.

1.  The Auroracoin brand has clearly not been ditched.  Whatever that means.

2.  Yes, 80% of the Auroracoin holdings were sold to fund the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation, of which Auroracoin is a significant interest.  Aside from the CEO salary, none of the proceeds (ever) went to individuals or team members.

3.  Yes, as explained the funds were repurposed but it is not accurate to say these uses are not directly related to the coin.  

This decision to found the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation, maintaining Auroracoin as a primary working group within the Foundation ,
has done wonders for the legitimacy and objectivity within and without the foundation.  Especially in developer and legislative circles.

While your comments are well-founded and welcome they do not represent the reality of the situation.

If you would like to participate we would welcome your contributions.

Michael Hannes


1: The CEO doesn't need to be paid, at least not with funds obtained by literally selling Auroracoin. If he believes in crypto and especially in Auroracoin he could have bought it himself from his own money. We all know this is bullshit.

2: The reality is, is that Auroracoin is going to be delisted from Bittrex. So you are NOT expanding but shrinking.

3: Show us where the money went from the 80% that has been sold. Show the receipts, bank statements or some kind of evidence where the money went. These are all very very easy answers you are giving. Zero evidence that the money is being used to create positive growth for AUR.

Furthermore, you are talking about meetups with a 100 people. Do you have any proof of that? Do you have photos or smth that proofs that there weren't 10 people at the Oct 11th meetup?

In short, the replies you gave us are filled with hopefull statements but that's it...just statements. I see no proof that what you wrote is actually true on the contrary the fact that AUR is going to be delisted from Bittrex is counterproof of your positive statements.

Normally I would accept proof like "project progression", but there isn't any progression with AUR so you have to provide something else.

Regards

1.  Stating that the full-time CEO of a national blockchain advocacy group does not need to be paid implies that you are basing your opinions on some subjective utopian reality where people's time and effort does not require compensation.  Not sure what you mean about him being able to buy his own coins as that is not related to salary.  

2.  Yes Bittrex is delisting AUR and that is unfortunate, however it does not change our efforts in regards to auroracoin.

3.  Why do you feel that you are owed these receipts and evidence of how the coins were used ?  This sounds like you have a warped sense of entitlement.  What have you done to warrant such inclusion within the project and foundations decisions?   What have you contributed if I may ask ?  How have you asked to be involved ?  


Doing a simple google search for "Icelandic Blockchain Foundation" will give you an idea of how the funds have been started to put into use.

It has been clearly stated that the decision was made to form the IBF to bolster the blockchain community in general in Iceland and that the IBF would have more ability as a neutral organization to make that happen.  This has attracted many more individuals to the community in general and in turn has given auroracoin exposure as well.

This was all done under strict by-laws and voting protocol conducted in an official meeting earlier this year.  That's just the way it is.  Everyone has their own opinions about how things could go or should go - but it is a fact of nature that things do not always go the way that you wished it would.

So you can FUD and complain all you want but it does not contribute to a constructive conversation.

michael hannes

1: How much does the CEO get paid per month?

2: You could have avoided that. Why don't they delist Bitcoin Cash? Because the effort put in the coin by Roger Ver alone is much more than what you guys all together have achieved so far. Besides the fact that Bitcoin Cash is in demand, the biggest holders hold onto their coins instead of selling them in the market. In fact, we all know Roger Ver bought more BCH to grow his holding. I am just using this as an example.

3: As an investor in AUR I think it is a minimum to come up with images, facts and proof instead of storytelling. So far all we could see is that a huge exchange is delisting AUR, some websites that even I can make and some nice story.
Yes, I'm aware is wasn't Oct. 11th yet so this is/was a good opportunity for you guys to collect proof.

4: You talk about bolster the blockchain community, sorry to say but the price clearly doesn't show that.
Selling the coins because it was conducted in an official meeting is just an excuse. I'm not the only one that is dissapointed about the decission of IBF but many more who have put their faith, money and trust in AUR.

This is not about FUD, but about facts.

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Aurora Paper Wallet Generator:

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Aurora Paper Wallet Generator:

https://cryptonizor.com/wallet/aurora/


This wallet generator is NOT for auroracoin but for the erc 20 token
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So the foundation:
  • Ditched the Auroracoin brand
  • Sold the vast majority its Auroracoins
  • Repurposed the proceeds to fund things not directly related to the coin

Let's face it. You guys abandoned the project.

To be clear we have not abandoned the project.  If anyone has abandoned the project it would be the Icelanders that claimed their coins in 2014 and either sold the coins or have simply waited for other people to get involved without personally getting involved or contributing in any significant manner.

1.  The Auroracoin brand has clearly not been ditched.  Whatever that means.

2.  Yes, 80% of the Auroracoin holdings were sold to fund the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation, of which Auroracoin is a significant interest.  Aside from the CEO salary, none of the proceeds (ever) went to individuals or team members.

3.  Yes, as explained the funds were repurposed but it is not accurate to say these uses are not directly related to the coin.  

This decision to found the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation, maintaining Auroracoin as a primary working group within the Foundation ,
has done wonders for the legitimacy and objectivity within and without the foundation.  Especially in developer and legislative circles.

While your comments are well-founded and welcome they do not represent the reality of the situation.

If you would like to participate we would welcome your contributions.

Michael Hannes


1: The CEO doesn't need to be paid, at least not with funds obtained by literally selling Auroracoin. If he believes in crypto and especially in Auroracoin he could have bought it himself from his own money. We all know this is bullshit.

2: The reality is, is that Auroracoin is going to be delisted from Bittrex. So you are NOT expanding but shrinking.

3: Show us where the money went from the 80% that has been sold. Show the receipts, bank statements or some kind of evidence where the money went. These are all very very easy answers you are giving. Zero evidence that the money is being used to create positive growth for AUR.

Furthermore, you are talking about meetups with a 100 people. Do you have any proof of that? Do you have photos or smth that proofs that there weren't 10 people at the Oct 11th meetup?

In short, the replies you gave us are filled with hopefull statements but that's it...just statements. I see no proof that what you wrote is actually true on the contrary the fact that AUR is going to be delisted from Bittrex is counterproof of your positive statements.

Normally I would accept proof like "project progression", but there isn't any progression with AUR so you have to provide something else.

Regards

1.  Stating that the full-time CEO of a national blockchain advocacy group does not need to be paid implies that you are basing your opinions on some subjective utopian reality where people's time and effort does not require compensation.  Not sure what you mean about him being able to buy his own coins as that is not related to salary.  

2.  Yes Bittrex is delisting AUR and that is unfortunate, however it does not change our efforts in regards to auroracoin.

3.  Why do you feel that you are owed these receipts and evidence of how the coins were used ?  This sounds like you have a warped sense of entitlement.  What have you done to warrant such inclusion within the project and foundations decisions?   What have you contributed if I may ask ?  How have you asked to be involved ?  


Doing a simple google search for "Icelandic Blockchain Foundation" will give you an idea of how the funds have been started to put into use.

It has been clearly stated that the decision was made to form the IBF to bolster the blockchain community in general in Iceland and that the IBF would have more ability as a neutral organization to make that happen.  This has attracted many more individuals to the community in general and in turn has given auroracoin exposure as well.

This was all done under strict by-laws and voting protocol conducted in an official meeting earlier this year.  That's just the way it is.  Everyone has their own opinions about how things could go or should go - but it is a fact of nature that things do not always go the way that you wished it would.

So you can FUD and complain all you want but it does not contribute to a constructive conversation.

michael hannes

1: How much does the CEO get paid per month?

2: You could have avoided that. Why don't they delist Bitcoin Cash? Because the effort put in the coin by Roger Ver alone is much more than what you guys all together have achieved so far. Besides the fact that Bitcoin Cash is in demand, the biggest holders hold onto their coins instead of selling them in the market. In fact, we all know Roger Ver bought more BCH to grow his holding. I am just using this as an example.

3: As an investor in AUR I think it is a minimum to come up with images, facts and proof instead of storytelling. So far all we could see is that a huge exchange is delisting AUR, some websites that even I can make and some nice story.
Yes, I'm aware is wasn't Oct. 11th yet so this is/was a good opportunity for you guys to collect proof.

4: You talk about bolster the blockchain community, sorry to say but the price clearly doesn't show that.
Selling the coins because it was conducted in an official meeting is just an excuse. I'm not the only one that is dissapointed about the decission of IBF but many more who have put their faith, money and trust in AUR.

This is not about FUD, but about facts.

Regards

Wussel, please come and join IBF and work with us. You are welcome to join the Auroracoin subgroup of IBF, the only coin specific subgroup of IBF. The task is the same as before... get Auroracoin accepted everywhere in Iceland. Help us instead of hiding behind a username here on Bitcointalk and just spread FUD

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October 14, 2018, 01:39:53 PM
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Is auroracoin dead? webwallet.auroracoin.is don't working. I have approx 20 coins on old webwallet hive.auroracoin.is (also is down).
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October 14, 2018, 04:59:16 PM
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1: How much does the CEO get paid per month?

2: You could have avoided that. Why don't they delist Bitcoin Cash? Because the effort put in the coin by Roger Ver alone is much more than what you guys all together have achieved so far. Besides the fact that Bitcoin Cash is in demand, the biggest holders hold onto their coins instead of selling them in the market. In fact, we all know Roger Ver bought more BCH to grow his holding. I am just using this as an example.

3: As an investor in AUR I think it is a minimum to come up with images, facts and proof instead of storytelling. So far all we could see is that a huge exchange is delisting AUR, some websites that even I can make and some nice story.
Yes, I'm aware is wasn't Oct. 11th yet so this is/was a good opportunity for you guys to collect proof.

4: You talk about bolster the blockchain community, sorry to say but the price clearly doesn't show that.
Selling the coins because it was conducted in an official meeting is just an excuse. I'm not the only one that is dissapointed about the decission of IBF but many more who have put their faith, money and trust in AUR.

This is not about FUD, but about facts.

Regards

1.  I dont know how much he is being paid.  I am sure it is commensurate with local salaries.  From what I have seen he has been earning his salary.

2.  I dont know if we could have avoided the delisting.  It was probably due to low volume, and although low it was probably still profitable for Bittrex, but perhaps not as much so as with other coins.  We did not anticipate this.  That being said, perhaps now that ISX is the primary fiat exchange and local it will better represent the local demand cost.
I dont think comparing auroracoin to a bitcoin fork is fair.   We may not have the exposure that other coins have but that has not stopped some of us who have been spending alot of time trying to keep the coin relevant.

3/4.  There were about 40 people at the meeting, more than any auroracoin specific meeting has gathered.  There is now a call to action for those interested in auroracoin specifically to join the auroracoin specific group in 2 weeks.

I too wished that interest in Auroracoin and the foundation funds were used in a different way, but I see and believe now that was a good decision.  So now, as mentioned, it is an issue of establishing the coins voice within the IBF. 

Thanks for your input.  As you can see on this board and on Reddit, there have not been many contributors to the discussion, and not many people that have reached out to help, or to create websites with auroracoin resources, but there is a core group that has been steadfast in the idea.   Some of your comments have made into my discussion notes and in many ways are valid points.

Apologies for it not developing as hoped, but here I would actually place some of the blame on the Icelanders who do not realize the opportunity they have in this nationally brand recognized cryptocurrency.

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October 14, 2018, 06:17:29 PM
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Is auroracoin dead? webwallet.auroracoin.is don't working. I have approx 20 coins on old webwallet hive.auroracoin.is (also is down).

No, auroracoin is not dead.  However, interest and use in the webwallet / Hive has diminished to a point that further support and server costs have been discontinued.

Dont worry about your coins, we can take care of that. 

There is a thread on Reddit that covers this issue.  Depending on your level of technical savvy you can get the coins out yourself.

It requires the installation of the Chrome Wallet and going through some manual steps to get your private keys from the webwallet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/auroracoin/comments/9bxgsn/unable_to_send_funds_with_auroracoin_webwallet/

For technical people there is a certain amount of fun in going through the steps... however if that is not your thing I understand.

Do you still have your passphrase saved ?   

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So we have started a new season with AURORACOIN, as it is now a group within the Icelandic Blockchain Foundation.

There have been mixed reviews and opinions concerning this change, however locally there is consensus that it is beneficial to auroracoins development.

However, we have not been specific how contributions can be made within the Auroracoin community.

With some local help I have been building a local website, https://auroracoin101.is to highlight news and merchant adoption.

                       

I have been committing many hours a week, brain-power, funds, and heart into the project, and will continue to do so.

There are also another handful of people that have spent the equivalent, and more, of their sweat, blood and tears into this idea.

I believe in the concept and original idea of the project, to bring a blockchain powered currency alternative to the Icelandic nation.

Of course, it can also be used anywhere else in the world - and can do much more than provide another way to pay for things.

If you wish to contribute articles to the auroracoin101 site, I will personally pay you with Auroracoins for your contribution.

Send me a personal message and we can work out the details.

Do not grow weary in doing good... for when all is said and done - it is the acts of goodness that stand against the sands of time.

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Last edit: October 15, 2018, 04:42:44 PM by dinobotta
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IBF is hosting a meetup for Auroracoin on the 24th of October.



https://www.facebook.com/events/1912223579087548/?notif_t=plan_user_associated&notif_id=1539604072223412

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October 17, 2018, 01:11:33 PM
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Auroracoin p2pool nodes:

for USA - http://p2p-usa.xyz:12349/static/ - SHA256D
            - http://p2p-usa.xyz:12355/static/ - QUBIT
            - http://p2p-usa.xyz:12347/static/ - SCRYPT
            - http://p2p-usa.xyz:12351/static/ - GROESTL
            - http://p2p-usa.xyz:12353/static/ - SKEIN

for EU   - http://p2p-south.xyz:12349/static/ - SHA256D
            - http://p2p-south.xyz:12355/static/ - QUBIT
            - http://p2p-south.xyz:12347/static/ - SCRYPT
            - http://p2p-south.xyz:12351/static/ - GROESTL
            - http://p2p-south.xyz:12353/static/ - SKEIN

            - http://p2p-spb.xyz:12349/static/ - SHA256D
            - http://p2p-spb.xyz:12355/static/ - QUBIT
            - http://p2p-spb.xyz:12347/static/ - SCRYPT
            - http://p2p-spb.xyz:12351/static/ - GROESTL
            - http://p2p-spb.xyz:12353/static/ - SKEIN
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Nice dip on bittrex Cheesy From 2$ to 0.02$ Cheesy I hope AUR will have yobit pump, like delisted CHAT last time Cheesy
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Just happy to see an active dev.  It's not great to see AUR de-listed from BITTREX, but compared to MANY other alts, AUR is still looking very good.  

Keep up the good work devs!!
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October 18, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
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Just happy to see an active dev.  It's not great to see AU de-listed from BITTREX, but compared to MANY other alts, AUR is still looking very good. 

Keep up the good work devs!!

True, AUR didn’t pump at all after delisting, it kept on dumping. I hope, we will see a final huge pump
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October 20, 2018, 08:06:10 AM
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damnit, bittrex AUR wallet is in maintenance. Didn't get my coins yet.

hope it's temporary and they DO have those coins.

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October 20, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
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damnit, bittrex AUR wallet is in maintenance. Didn't get my coins yet.

hope it's temporary and they DO have those coins.


write to the support, the coin is delisted
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(argh, sorry, clicked EDIT instead of REPLY and deleted this post about bittrex wallet being in maintenance)

bittrex AUR withdrawals re-enabled

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October 20, 2018, 06:41:50 PM
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Are european citizens allowed to register on https://isx.is? is there any English page there? I can't read iclandic.
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October 20, 2018, 06:49:35 PM
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As someone who has been an Auroracoin enthusiast since February 2014, I have to say I was a little surprised to read that the foundation had liquidated 80% of their AUR holdings.

I believed in the Auroracoin idea in part because I thought Iceland was the ideal laboratory for this experiment: a geographically small, isolated region, with a technologically advanced populace with a long history of currency debasement and an extraordinary stockmarket crash due to banker machinations during the 2008 crisis.

But I look at projects like Byteball, who have over 200 retailers accepting their currency in Milan, Italy and Bunz, also with hundreds of shops in Canada accepting their token, and I wonder why adoption of AUR has been glacially slow in Iceland.

Its too bad some of the foundation funds weren't used over the past 3 years to fund development and adoption. Maybe the story would have been different, or maybe not. Maybe Iceland is not the ideal laboratory for this type of experiment after all.
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damnit, bittrex AUR wallet is in maintenance. Didn't get my coins yet.

hope it's temporary and they DO have those coins.


write to the support, the coin is delisted

wallet is back online so people can withdraw their AUR

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