Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[citronick]

I have noticed that the temperature sensor on S9 boards has an unusually high failure rate and it's taking down entire hashboards with it. When the sensor goes bad the board no longer hashes. This has happened on numerous occassions with our customers' gears. Does anyone know by any chance if there is a way to fix this. Does someone know where this temp sensor is located (picture would be really helpful) and if it can be swapped out/fixed/repaired, etc?

Also, if Bitmain provides RMA or part replacement for this sensor chip?

[ComputerGenie]

Code:

201704280713
* Remove the function: post mac address and remote stop mining interface
* Fix a bug of memory leak.
* Fix to support keep config when upgrade

And that's why I said next week for trying 201704270135.

[VTdude12]

Code:

201704280713
* Remove the function: post mac address and remote stop mining interface
* Fix a bug of memory leak.
* Fix to support keep config when upgrade

And that's why I said next week for trying 201704270135.

I just upgraded my 3x 13.5TH S9s with the new firmware.  All seems well thus far... TOUCH WOOD!!!   

[ComputerGenie]

I just upgraded my 3x 13.5TH S9s with the new firmware.  All seems well thus far... TOUCH WOOD!!!   

The new one, the new new one, or the newest new new one? 

[Minor Miner]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?   

[fanatic26]

I have noticed that the temperature sensor on S9 boards has an unusually high failure rate and it's taking down entire hashboards with it. When the sensor goes bad the board no longer hashes. This has happened on numerous occassions with our customers' gears. Does anyone know by any chance if there is a way to fix this. Does someone know where this temp sensor is located (picture would be really helpful) and if it can be swapped out/fixed/repaired, etc?

The temp sensors are actually built into the chip itself. Problem is they only pull data from chip 63 so if that one has a problem you are out of luck. It will be fixed under warranty but there is basically nothing that you can do as an end user to fix it.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  

"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?

[Minor Miner]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  

"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?

It is the price that BITMAIN gives consumers that buy the S9/T9.   They list price in US$ and then they use 1245 when everywhere was trading $100 above that (and even BTC-e was above that) as their exchange rate for consumers to pay.
How do you think that does not concern the S9?

[NotFuzzyWarm]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  

"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?

It is the price that BITMAIN gives consumers that buy the S9/T9.   They list price in US$ and then they use 1245 when everywhere was trading $100 above that (and even BTC-e was above that) as their exchange rate for consumers to pay.
How do you think that does not concern the S9?

Ok, it relates to the s9. Fine. However this is the HARDWARE section for technical discussions about hardware. Pricing is not a hardware problem...

[Minor Miner]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  

"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?

It is the price that BITMAIN gives consumers that buy the S9/T9.   They list price in US$ and then they use 1245 when everywhere was trading $100 above that (and even BTC-e was above that) as their exchange rate for consumers to pay.
How do you think that does not concern the S9?

Ok, it relates to the s9. Fine. However this is the HARDWARE section for technical discussions about hardware. Pricing is not hardware...

Look, I do not want to be a douche, but who made you the decision maker?   Read the OP.   If you have problems understanding the Original Post Subject line, let me know and I can help.   Let me know in the subject line where YOU feel "Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order" is a subject that is NOT about ordering their S9 miner.
I have a question about ordering their miners and how they calculate price.   

Want to apologize about this being off topic? 

[HagssFIN]

Pricing is everything that comes to hardware these days.
I've seen this also at my work as electrician.

Me: this device X is a little better and reliable than the cheaper one but it costs little extra
Customer: let's go with the cheaper one

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Want to apologize about this being off topic?

Nope.
Ignore now active.

[Minor Miner]

Want to apologize about this being off topic?

Nope.
Ignore now active.

Thanks, Internet Tough Guy.   Now I do not have to have my question buried by your inane comments.

I will ask again.   BITMAIN, how do you calculate the US$ to BTC exchange price on your site.   I see it move, so it is a derivative of some index but what one?   It seems to be $50-100 below most exchanges in the last few days.

[philipma1957]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?  

"below Market' is a relative term. All depends on what currency exchanges you and Bitmain uses. There are several and can often be a fair spread between them. One site of many to compare exchange rates: https://bitcoinity.org/markets/coinbase/USD
And this is not s9 question. Belongs elsewhere, possibly under Markets?

I caught them on this months ago

they own hashnest and were posting  btc way higher  then they were on the s-9 page they fixed it.  If you go back on this thread I have screenshots that they did this.

[ComputerGenie]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?   

https://www.okcoin.com/api/v1/ticker.do?symbol=btc_usd

Code:

{
	"date": "1493413852",
	"ticker": {
		"buy": "1232.32",
		"high": "1322.1",
		"last": "1233.19",
		"low": "1209.0",
		"sell": "1233.53",
		"vol": "4889.364"
	}
}

[Minor Miner]

How come the BTC Rate on the bitmain site is constantly $100 below market?   are they keying of BTC-e?   

https://www.okcoin.com/api/v1/ticker.do?symbol=btc_usd

Code:

{
	"date": "1493413852",
	"ticker": {
		"buy": "1232.32",
		"high": "1322.1",
		"last": "1233.19",
		"low": "1209.0",
		"sell": "1233.53",
		"vol": "4889.364"
	}
}

Thank you.  Appreciated.

[allinvain]

I have noticed that the temperature sensor on S9 boards has an unusually high failure rate and it's taking down entire hashboards with it. When the sensor goes bad the board no longer hashes. This has happened on numerous occassions with our customers' gears. Does anyone know by any chance if there is a way to fix this. Does someone know where this temp sensor is located (picture would be really helpful) and if it can be swapped out/fixed/repaired, etc?

The temp sensors are actually built into the chip itself. Problem is they only pull data from chip 63 so if that one has a problem you are out of luck. It will be fixed under warranty but there is basically nothing that you can do as an end user to fix it.

Oh crap, that's the worst case scenario. Dammit Bitmain why you go so cheap on the design/build quality? Do they not realize that if the miner dies out of warranty they are just basically screwing their customers out of ROI. Should these things not be built well enough/smart enough that they will last more than 6 months before killing themselves.

[ComputerGenie]

I have noticed that the temperature sensor on S9 boards has an unusually high failure rate and it's taking down entire hashboards with it. When the sensor goes bad the board no longer hashes. This has happened on numerous occassions with our customers' gears. Does anyone know by any chance if there is a way to fix this. Does someone know where this temp sensor is located (picture would be really helpful) and if it can be swapped out/fixed/repaired, etc?

The temp sensors are actually built into the chip itself. Problem is they only pull data from chip 63 so if that one has a problem you are out of luck. It will be fixed under warranty but there is basically nothing that you can do as an end user to fix it.

Oh crap, that's the worst case scenario. Dammit Bitmain why you go so cheap on the design/build quality? Do they not realize that if the miner dies out of warranty they are just basically screwing their customers out of ROI. Should these things not be built well enough/smart enough that they will last more than 6 months before killing themselves.

And how many of those (percentage-wise) are in a properly ventilated area that's always under 77F?  

[allinvain]

I have noticed that the temperature sensor on S9 boards has an unusually high failure rate and it's taking down entire hashboards with it. When the sensor goes bad the board no longer hashes. This has happened on numerous occassions with our customers' gears. Does anyone know by any chance if there is a way to fix this. Does someone know where this temp sensor is located (picture would be really helpful) and if it can be swapped out/fixed/repaired, etc?

The temp sensors are actually built into the chip itself. Problem is they only pull data from chip 63 so if that one has a problem you are out of luck. It will be fixed under warranty but there is basically nothing that you can do as an end user to fix it.

Oh crap, that's the worst case scenario. Dammit Bitmain why you go so cheap on the design/build quality? Do they not realize that if the miner dies out of warranty they are just basically screwing their customers out of ROI. Should these things not be built well enough/smart enough that they will last more than 6 months before killing themselves.

And how many of those (percentage-wise) are in a properly ventilated area that's always under 77F?  

Good point. But sometimes it's not the heat that kills them cause we've had board die in the middle of the North Canada winter. All it takes is one or two traces to become undone due to poor sodder or lack of sufficient sodder and bam, chip is offline and bam temp sensor is offline and bam blade is entirely offline. Also according to bitmain specs these are supposed to be able to handle fairly high intake temps - ie a traditional data center environment. I think the reality is a pure and simple ugly truth which is that Bitmain obviously cut corners on design and build quality to wide their profit margins as well as make the miners ore affordable of us miners. I would honestly pay a bit more for a rock solid design implementation and especially one that is user serviceable to a larger degree.

-update- has anyone attempted to remove the chips off of an S9 board? I'm wondering what kind of specialized equipment we'd need.

[allinvain]

@Bitmain, would you guys be willing to offer an out of warranty repair service for this dead temp sensor chip issue? Even if it costs us $50 it would still be better than a dead ~$300 blade.