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January 28, 2017, 12:12:27 PM
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HEAT still being held hostage by Openledger, got any info on when they are releasing the funds?
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January 28, 2017, 12:17:21 PM
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HEAT still being held hostage by Openledger, got any info on when they are releasing the funds?

Yes, I'd like to know too! What was the point to use them? Now we're just watching everybody having fun and we're stuck.
This should have been sorted out before block 4320! Now we're losing out on the forging.

Starting to be fed up...

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January 28, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
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HEAT still being held hostage by Openledger, got any info on when they are releasing the funds?

Yes, I'd like to know too! What was the point to use them? Now we're just watching everybody having fun and we're stuck.
This should have been sorted out before block 4320! Now we're losing out on the forging.

Starting to be fed up...



I don't mean to discredit these concerns. Since they are very understandable. It would have been nice if Openledger could have enabled withdrawing earlier.
Although the point of using the exchanges like openledger, c-cex, alcurex is like using an escrow. There is less risk for investors to use those platforms, since if HEAT did not deliver, then those platforms could refund the investors. Where as people who invested directly to the devs accounts took more risk with direct deposits to the HEAT team.


That is a very sober point of view. Still im like a kid on christmas in the 90s here and Santa has already visited all the other children and my friend just called me up to brag about his new super nintendo.
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January 28, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
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has anyone examined the code behind the wallet?
Is it all legit?
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January 28, 2017, 01:08:24 PM
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Still im like a kid on christmas in the 90s here and Santa has already visited all the other children and my friend just called me up to brag about his new super nintendo.
Very good analogy! Kids are told a lie of Santa Claus until they find out at a certain point that this whole Christmas thing is a lie and that commercial interests drive it. Same here.
Maybe it's about time to direct new people to the chronology of smokes and mirrors again. Also to prevent them from doing stupid things like investing in the IPO.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg17569128#msg17569128
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January 28, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
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already earned errmm forged around 50 HEAT's. looks good.
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January 28, 2017, 01:19:39 PM
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We're working to deploy downloadable client + server package with graphical forging UI on github before the forging rewards start paying on block 4320.

Meanwhile another, still technical way to set up forging:

Get JDK SE from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
(Click accept license agreement radiobutton first)

Download and unzip https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases

Define your own apikey, can be whatever string of characters, in conf/heat-default.properties

Start heatledger (Linux) or heatledger.bat (Windows)

run from command line the following after first making applicable changes to it:

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curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

If you don't have curl, download from the curl site

I'm getting the following error:

{"errorDescription":"Unknown account","errorCode":3}

Can someone help me out with this please?
Did you replace this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase with your own? (replace all spaces with %20). Did you replace api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties with your own api key?

Hey. Yes..I did both.

apikey can be alphanumeric right?

Try to use a slash instead of backslash:
Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase/?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties


Excellent! That worked..thanks a lot. I got some values as deadline and hittarget.

Does this mean I'm now forging?

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January 28, 2017, 01:20:39 PM
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HEAT still being held hostage by Openledger, got any info on when they are releasing the funds?

Yes, I'd like to know too! What was the point to use them? Now we're just watching everybody having fun and we're stuck.
This should have been sorted out before block 4320! Now we're losing out on the forging.

Starting to be fed up...



I don't mean to discredit these concerns. Since they are very understandable. It would have been nice if Openledger could have enabled withdrawing earlier.
Although the point of using the exchanges like openledger, c-cex, alcurex is like using an escrow. There is less risk for investors to use those platforms, since if HEAT did not deliver, then those platforms could refund the investors. Where as people who invested directly to the devs accounts took more risk with direct deposits to the HEAT team.


Well, to me it's not delivered since technically I don't have my coins so I can't do anything...
- Alcurex commented here
- C-CEX set a buy wall.
- OpenLedger: not a word...

Now it's the week end so I don't expect anything to happen before next week...
There are still a lot of things that aren't right.
If there was a buy wall on OpenLedger I would probably have sold.
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January 28, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
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I'm getting the following error:

{"errorDescription":"Unknown account","errorCode":3}

Can someone help me out with this please?
Did you replace this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase with your own? (replace all spaces with %20). Did you replace api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties with your own api key?

Hey. Yes..I did both.

apikey can be alphanumeric right?

Try to use a slash instead of backslash:
Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase/?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties


Excellent! That worked..thanks a lot. I got some values as deadline and hittarget.

Does this mean I'm now forging?

I'm still getting that "Uknown account" error (slash changed). I don't have HEAT in my account. How could I? Neither C-CEX nor Alcurex have the HEAT wallet installed..
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January 28, 2017, 01:30:09 PM
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Does alcurex come with the 1.5 x multipler? has it already been put in place?
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January 28, 2017, 01:34:32 PM
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Does alcurex come with the 1.5 x multipler? has it already been put in place?

Both Openledger and Alcurex have applied the multiplier.

In preparations for HEAT launch, Alcurex adjusted the 1.50x HEAT token multiplier yesterday Jan 17th.

Openledger 1.50x adjustment is imminent at 14.00 CET today. Buy one HEAT now, have 1.5 HEAT in 2 hours Cheesy

https://bitshares.openledger.info/?#/market/OPEN.HEAT_OPEN.BTC
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January 28, 2017, 01:35:10 PM
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Does alcurex come with the 1.5 x multipler? has it already been put in place?

yes alcurex made the 1.5 multiplier, about if they will refund peoples btc or not we will see but i think it would not be good from them to dont do.
they should do same like ccex in my opinion.
But what C-Cex did screwed everyone, including those who wanted out.

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January 28, 2017, 01:40:54 PM
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Um how to get coins to mainnet if exchanges don't support withdraws yet?
How to start forging with an "unknown" account? I have to make a transaction first I guess, but how?
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January 28, 2017, 01:43:51 PM
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well if team dont delivered what was promised its their good right to protect their ico investors and give them the offer to sell their coins into the "buywall" or stay with it.
from what i have seen its totally legit and i want out of alcurex the same way like this.

But they havent said anything about letting you withdraw the HEAT, or made any mention of adding the multiplier. So keeping HEAT bought on C-Cex isnt really an option.
If they did then it would be less of an issue.

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January 28, 2017, 01:44:42 PM
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they are forging now and taking most of the rewards, look at the blockchain explorer data[/size]
This isn't intentional and should have been switched off by now as I've made 4 calls to Dennis that it needs to be switched off immediately at block 4321. Which accounts are you referring to? Dev reward accounts are 8881398431621852760 and 2898601473431954685

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How to start forging with an "unknown" account? I have to make a transaction first I guess, but how?
Some stakeholder accounts without a public key need to have an outgoing transaction first. Make a new account by entering with your own passphrase, see the account number at the exchange page next to "balance" on left side and transfer HEAT to it.

         
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January 28, 2017, 01:47:24 PM
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Does alcurex come with the 1.5 x multipler? has it already been put in place?

yes alcurex made the 1.5 multiplier, about if they will refund peoples btc or not we will see but i think it would not be good from them to dont do.
they should do same like ccex in my opinion.
But what C-Cex did screwed everyone, including those who wanted out.

Absolutely. It has nothing to do with the misinformation before the ICO, the intransparancy after the ICO and the more than poor communication after the house of cards collapsed.  Roll Eyes
The only reason we have something like a release is because of C-Cex. Without this pressure we still wouldn't have a release.

All I hope for is a fair price in the announced internal BTC/Heat exchange or a buywall as PROMISED by Svante. That's the very least he could do after tricking people into this mess.
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January 28, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
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HEAT seems undervalued at this point let see where it goes Smiley

how do you figure,
at 0.0001  - it gives heat a marketcap of around 2.4 million dollars.
Do you feel this project is worth more than projects such as LbRY or Bitbay,
I don;t think so. Not from what i have seen so far.

Stage 2 ico BTC price was 0.00013 ÷ 1.5 = 0.00008667 BTC

Average price paid might be slightly lower than that if extra HEAT from c-cex gets distributed or burnt.

That means average market cap ico investors bought in at was about 2100 BTC

Even Potcoin is at 4450 BTC market cap.

Weak hands will be shaken out now then they will cry later when we go up past 10000 BTC market cap like Stratis

There are 25 Million Heat. so its 2500 BTC. The market will make the valuation once they see the potential.

Look at Byteball. Its a 2 men studio, marketcap 4,5Mill. Its a bubble. blob

Though quite off topic, I must correct this.
It's true that Byteball was developed only by one person within 2 years. But now there are at least two developers active in Byteball and a lot of volunteers like myself for marketing and support. The #helpdesk on the Byteball slack alone is staffed with 4 supporters!

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January 28, 2017, 01:52:06 PM
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Um how to get coins to mainnet if exchanges don't support withdraws yet?
How to start forging with an "unknown" account? I have to make a transaction first I guess, but how?
You could just send 1 HEAT to another account. Just pick an account shown in the blockchain explorer.

I don't have any HEAT on my account. All my HEAT is on C-CEX and Alcurex..

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How to start forging with an "unknown" account? I have to make a transaction first I guess, but how?
Some stakeholder accounts without a public key need to have an outgoing transaction first. Make a new account by entering with your own passphrase, see the account number at the exchange page next to "balance" on left side and transfer HEAT to it.

How can there even be a mainnet account with any HEAT balance? From where does it come? C-CEX and Alcurex don't have HEAT withdrawal enabled..

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Oh I think I got it.
Purchasing was also possible directly, without an exchange.

So the mainnet was launched but people can't withdraw from exchanges.
Only those who bought directly can forge now.
This sucks.
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January 28, 2017, 01:54:15 PM
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devs are taking most of the forged coins to themselves now, this is totally unfair... according to ICO terms they were supposed to get their stash after 1 year from genesis (check in the terms) and they are forging now and taking most of the rewards, look at the blockchain explorer data

If true this is totally unacceptable!!
Heat team, please respond to this asap. You have a long standing responsibility with this community and your investors.
They did just above. The two dev addresses are 8881398431621852760 and 2898601473431954685.

Doing a quick check they are not showing up in the block explorer. A few other large holder are getting a lot of rewards but there were a few 1.5M HEAT accounts which werent dev accounts.

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January 28, 2017, 02:03:51 PM
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Um how to get coins to mainnet if exchanges don't support withdraws yet?
How to start forging with an "unknown" account? I have to make a transaction first I guess, but how?
You could just send 1 HEAT to another account. Just pick an account shown in the blockchain explorer.

I don't have any HEAT on my account. All my HEAT is on C-CEX and Alcurex..

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How to start forging with an "unknown" account? I have to make a transaction first I guess, but how?
Some stakeholder accounts without a public key need to have an outgoing transaction first. Make a new account by entering with your own passphrase, see the account number at the exchange page next to "balance" on left side and transfer HEAT to it.

How can there even be a mainnet account with any HEAT balance? From where does it come? C-CEX and Alcurex don't have HEAT withdrawal enabled..

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Oh I think I got it.
Purchasing was also possible directly, without an exchange.

So the mainnet was launched but people can't withdraw from exchanges.
Only those who bought directly can forge now.
This sucks.


It's the exchanges task. It is possible, they just havent integrated it yet

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