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January 30, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
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Hi guys,

Did anyone get the following output when starting?

Code:
http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/info/passphrase?api_key=blabla
[{"deadline":0,"account":"23498739847239847","remaining":0,"hitTime":0}]

Wonder why I see deadline 0 and hitTime 0...

I don't know this for sure.  But I think it's right.

There is usually a small vesting time (1440 blocks?) on newly transferred coins before they can stake (protects agains a certain kind of attack).  Because you see deadline and hittime as zero, the account is known but has no current forging power.  Is also possible there is a minimum (but pretty low) balance required to stake.

Can you confirm this is a new account?  Or one with a very small balance?
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January 30, 2017, 09:28:32 PM
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Hi guys,

Did anyone get the following output when starting?

Code:
http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/info/passphrase?api_key=blabla
[{"deadline":0,"account":"23498739847239847","remaining":0,"hitTime":0}]

Wonder why I see deadline 0 and hitTime 0...

I don't know this for sure.  But I think it's right.

There is usually a small vesting time (1440 blocks?) on newly transferred coins before they can stake (protects agains a certain kind of attack).  Because you see deadline and hittime as zero, the account is known but has no current forging power.  Is also possible there is a minimum (but pretty low) balance required to stake.

Can you confirm this is a new account?  Or one with a very small balance?

Yeah I only have 100 HEAT on it at the moment... but I thought that'd be enough.
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January 30, 2017, 09:33:51 PM
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Hi guys,

Did anyone get the following output when starting?

Code:
http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/info/passphrase?api_key=blabla
[{"deadline":0,"account":"23498739847239847","remaining":0,"hitTime":0}]

Wonder why I see deadline 0 and hitTime 0...

I don't know this for sure.  But I think it's right.

There is usually a small vesting time (1440 blocks?) on newly transferred coins before they can stake (protects agains a certain kind of attack).  Because you see deadline and hittime as zero, the account is known but has no current forging power.  Is also possible there is a minimum (but pretty low) balance required to stake.

Can you confirm this is a new account?  Or one with a very small balance?

Yeah I only have 100 HEAT on it at the moment... but I thought that'd be enough.

Seems like it should be enough, value-wise.

For what its worth, NXT has a minimum requirement of 1000.  But NXT has 1B coins, not 25M+.

Devs, what is the minimum requirement to forge/mine/stake HEAT?  Does it borrow the 1000 number from NXT?  If it does, can that be lowered to something more appropriate on the next fork.

EDIT: By requiring a minimum balance to forge, it lessens the amount of time it takes for network nodes to calculate the next forger.  So there could be a very good reason to have something a bit higher to achieve the desired throughput of HEAT.  Would love a dev comment on this.
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January 30, 2017, 10:18:09 PM
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Hi guys,

Did anyone get the following output when starting?

Code:
http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/info/passphrase?api_key=blabla
[{"deadline":0,"account":"23498739847239847","remaining":0,"hitTime":0}]

Wonder why I see deadline 0 and hitTime 0...

I don't know this for sure.  But I think it's right.

There is usually a small vesting time (1440 blocks?) on newly transferred coins before they can stake (protects agains a certain kind of attack).  Because you see deadline and hittime as zero, the account is known but has no current forging power.  Is also possible there is a minimum (but pretty low) balance required to stake.

Can you confirm this is a new account?  Or one with a very small balance?

Yeah I only have 100 HEAT on it at the moment... but I thought that'd be enough.

Seems like it should be enough, value-wise.

For what its worth, NXT has a minimum requirement of 1000.  But NXT has 1B coins, not 25M+.

Devs, what is the minimum requirement to forge/mine/stake HEAT?  Does it borrow the 1000 number from NXT?  If it does, can that be lowered to something more appropriate on the next fork.

EDIT: By requiring a minimum balance to forge, it lessens the amount of time it takes for network nodes to calculate the next forger.  So there could be a very good reason to have something a bit higher to achieve the desired throughput of HEAT.  Would love a dev comment on this.


And one more thing.  For any new accounts (not included in genesis) make one outbound transaction so that your public key is known by the blockchain (plus it secures the account with more bits).  I don't think you can forge without a known public key.
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January 30, 2017, 10:23:07 PM
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Hi guys,

Did anyone get the following output when starting?

Code:
http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/info/passphrase?api_key=blabla
[{"deadline":0,"account":"23498739847239847","remaining":0,"hitTime":0}]

Wonder why I see deadline 0 and hitTime 0...

I don't know this for sure.  But I think it's right.

There is usually a small vesting time (1440 blocks?) on newly transferred coins before they can stake (protects agains a certain kind of attack).  Because you see deadline and hittime as zero, the account is known but has no current forging power.  Is also possible there is a minimum (but pretty low) balance required to stake.

Can you confirm this is a new account?  Or one with a very small balance?

Yeah I only have 100 HEAT on it at the moment... but I thought that'd be enough.

Seems like it should be enough, value-wise.

For what its worth, NXT has a minimum requirement of 1000.  But NXT has 1B coins, not 25M+.

Devs, what is the minimum requirement to forge/mine/stake HEAT?  Does it borrow the 1000 number from NXT?  If it does, can that be lowered to something more appropriate on the next fork.

EDIT: By requiring a minimum balance to forge, it lessens the amount of time it takes for network nodes to calculate the next forger.  So there could be a very good reason to have something a bit higher to achieve the desired throughput of HEAT.  Would love a dev comment on this.


And one more thing.  For any new accounts (not included in genesis) make one outbound transaction so that your public key is known by the blockchain (plus it secures the account with more bits).  I don't think you can forge without a known public key.


Alright, I made a small transfer to synace Smiley We'll see.
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January 30, 2017, 10:28:24 PM
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I would like to buy 9200 heat for the price 6600 sat each (total 0.61 btc). PM me if you are interested. We will use the 2 out of 3 multisig functions available at https://coinb.in. If you have never used it before, I will guide through the process. It is safe.

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January 30, 2017, 10:51:24 PM
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can anyone tell me how I can set up the server and start forging?
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January 30, 2017, 11:16:43 PM
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can anyone tell me how I can set up the server and start forging?

Follow this: https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger

Download hetledger.x.x.x.zip from here https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases

unzip the file

edit heat-default.properties in the conf folder. There is a line saying "heat.api_key=". Add an api key!
go to the bin folder and start heatledger
open terminal and type in:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties
If you don't have curl, download it!
You need to do this with YOUR apikey and YOUR passphrase! The %20 means space and has to be included
Now you are mining

I know, the heatheads were unable to put something like this on the website. Or on their forum. Or on the github... It is a classic heathead action again!
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January 30, 2017, 11:20:47 PM
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How on earth do I start forging can anyone put me in the right direction ?

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January 30, 2017, 11:22:06 PM
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So say I bought my heat on CCEX, withdrawal isn't allowed right? So is it worth even holding if I'm missing out on Foraging?

Too many unknowns with CCEX.

If it were me, I'd sell into that buy wall and repurchase HEAT elsewhere.  Right now your best bet is person-to-person trades (always use escrow).  But there should be some exchange options becoming available in a couple (or a few, or several) days.

Upcoming exchange support:
* HEAT built-in A2A Exchange
* OpenLedger
* AlcurEX
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January 30, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
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How on earth do I start forging can anyone put me in the right direction ?

Where is the problem, I described it one post above yours? Are you on windumb or linux?
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January 30, 2017, 11:50:31 PM
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Devs, what is the minimum requirement to forge/mine/stake HEAT?  Does it borrow the 1000 number from NXT?  If it does, can that be lowered to something more appropriate on the next fork.
By requiring a minimum balance to forge, it lessens the amount of time it takes for network nodes to calculate the next forger.  So there could be a very good reason to have something a bit higher to achieve the desired throughput of HEAT.  Would love a dev comment on this.
We need Dennis to confirm that, he just signed off after a hefty day of getting the assets tradable. Excellent point about the minimum balance, 1k doesn't forge nearly anything anyways so could be maybe 3k - 5k depending on the desired effect indeed.

         
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January 31, 2017, 12:06:15 AM
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Devs, what is the minimum requirement to forge/mine/stake HEAT?  Does it borrow the 1000 number from NXT?  If it does, can that be lowered to something more appropriate on the next fork.
By requiring a minimum balance to forge, it lessens the amount of time it takes for network nodes to calculate the next forger.  So there could be a very good reason to have something a bit higher to achieve the desired throughput of HEAT.  Would love a dev comment on this.
We need Dennis to confirm that, he just signed off after a hefty day of getting the assets tradable. Excellent point about the minimum balance, 1k doesn't forge nearly anything anyways so could be maybe 3k - 5k depending on the desired effect indeed.

This is redicilous! This is a two man team and one of them doesn't even know this easy answer...

In the code there are these two lines:


public final long ONE_HEAT = 100000000;
public final long MIN_FORGING_BALANCE_HQT = 2500000000L;

I guess this means you need at least 25 heat to be able to forge!
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January 31, 2017, 12:12:53 AM
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Is there a easy guide to follow to forge?

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Heatledger cryptocurrency server.

To install and run heatledger you need Java JDK 1.8 or higher installed, note that JDK is different from standard java distributions.

On ubuntu we use sudo apt-get install default-jdk package. For other platforms please look here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

For configuration settings see the conf/heat.properties files in the installation folder.

We're working to deploy downloadable client + server package with graphical forging UI on github before the forging rewards start paying on block 4320.

Meanwhile another, still technical way to set up forging:

Get JDK SE from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
(Click accept license agreement radiobutton first)

Download and unzip https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases

Define your own apikey, can be whatever string of characters, in conf/heat-default.properties

Start heatledger (Linux) or heatledger.bat (Windows)

run from command line the following after first making applicable changes to it:

Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

If you don't have curl, download from the curl site

I currently see this after running heatledger.bat



Do i have to wait for all blocks to be pushed before I can execute the code?

Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

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January 31, 2017, 12:17:35 AM
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So say I bought my heat on CCEX, withdrawal isn't allowed right? So is it worth even holding if I'm missing out on Foraging?

how much coins do you have? enough to forge?

sell it to the buywall and buy it on alcurex
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January 31, 2017, 12:17:52 AM
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Heatledger cryptocurrency server.

To install and run heatledger you need Java JDK 1.8 or higher installed, note that JDK is different from standard java distributions.

On ubuntu we use sudo apt-get install default-jdk package. For other platforms please look here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

For configuration settings see the conf/heat.properties files in the installation folder.

We're working to deploy downloadable client + server package with graphical forging UI on github before the forging rewards start paying on block 4320.

Meanwhile another, still technical way to set up forging:

Get JDK SE from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
(Click accept license agreement radiobutton first)

Download and unzip https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases

Define your own apikey, can be whatever string of characters, in conf/heat-default.properties

Start heatledger (Linux) or heatledger.bat (Windows)

run from command line the following after first making applicable changes to it:

Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

If you don't have curl, download from the curl site

I currently see this after running heatledger.bat



Do i have to wait for all blocks to be pushed before I can execute the code?

Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

All blocks are already pushed, look at the time between the last blocks...
If  you have at least 25 heat and the last curl command(using your correct pasword) gives you a response that looks like a json object then you are mining
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January 31, 2017, 12:27:07 AM
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Is there a easy guide to follow to forge?

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Heatledger cryptocurrency server.

To install and run heatledger you need Java JDK 1.8 or higher installed, note that JDK is different from standard java distributions.

On ubuntu we use sudo apt-get install default-jdk package. For other platforms please look here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html

For configuration settings see the conf/heat.properties files in the installation folder.

We're working to deploy downloadable client + server package with graphical forging UI on github before the forging rewards start paying on block 4320.

Meanwhile another, still technical way to set up forging:

Get JDK SE from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
(Click accept license agreement radiobutton first)

Download and unzip https://github.com/Heat-Ledger-Ltd/heatledger/releases

Define your own apikey, can be whatever string of characters, in conf/heat-default.properties

Start heatledger (Linux) or heatledger.bat (Windows)

run from command line the following after first making applicable changes to it:

Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

If you don't have curl, download from the curl site

I currently see this after running heatledger.bat



Do i have to wait for all blocks to be pushed before I can execute the code?

Code:
curl -k -s http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/start/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties
It looks like you got all of them. There are only 11860 blocks or at the moment. So you can run the code.

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January 31, 2017, 12:33:23 AM
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It looks like you got all of them. There are only 11860 blocks or at the moment. So you can run the code.

After executing curl.exe I tried the code and it does not work.


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January 31, 2017, 12:39:05 AM
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It looks like you got all of them. There are only 11860 blocks or at the moment. So you can run the code.

After executing curl.exe I tried the code and it does not work.



I think it is not installed, try the same address you try in curl in your browser...
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January 31, 2017, 12:54:24 AM
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It looks like you got all of them. There are only 11860 blocks or at the moment. So you can run the code.

After executing curl.exe I tried the code and it does not work.


I dont think its supposed to be running after you execute the code. Mine doesnt and its forging.

You can check by opening in a private browser window
 
Code:
http://localhost:7733/api/v1/mining/info/this%20is%20your%20secret%20phrase\?api_key=defined_in_heat-default.properties

And it should return something like

Code:
[{"deadline":17503,"account":"youraccountnumber","remaining":17478,"hitTime":100547075}]

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