My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos.

[AriesIV10]

I know faster memory like HBM on the Furys/Nanos boosts ZEC mining tremendously.

 HBM memory isn't faster, it's actually slower - but very WIDE. Depends on if the much higher latency handicaps the higher bandwidth too much on if it works well for any particular application.

Like.

I took a short nap just know... only to be awoken by phone call..... I was midway dreaming that AMD actually released "RX500 Crypto Edition" - a card specifically for crypto mining, 8-way Very-HBM memory, OC features, bad ass fans, and installation CD comes with Claymore miner for ZCASH, ETH and Monero... LOL  

I wonder if AMD would actually build a crypto card.... what features, what price? what impact to mining world?

I do not think that designing a specialized gpu for miners would be a very good business decision for the AMD.  Right now they are selling all gpus to all customers (miners & gamers & pc users &...).  If they design a special gpu for miners, they eliminate the sales to gamers & pc users while increasing inventory.  Although, I would love a RX500 Crypto Edition!    

[philipma1957]

Got the Corsair sf 450

Tightened the build some more.

it is 15 inches by 13 inches.

I need a atx to fx plate  to mount the psu .

 I will be smaller yet about 13 by 13 inches. I will post final  look on tues.

I am pulling 223 watts for 300h

I could add 1 cable  and put in 1 msi rx 470,but  I do like the look and sound (35db) of this pc.

[ps_jb]

Got the Corsair sf 450

Tightened the build some more.

it is 15 inches by 13 inches.

I need a atx to fx plate  to mount the psu .

 I will be smaller yet about 13 by 13 inches. I will post final  look on tues.

I am pulling 223 watts for 300h

I could add 1 cable  and put in 1 msi rx 470,but  I do like the look and sound (35db) of this pc.

Phil you can add a HDMI dummi dongle and wifi dongle - so rig will be about cordless/cableless and clean

[philipma1957]

Got the Corsair sf 450

Tightened the build some more.

it is 15 inches by 13 inches.

I need a atx to fx plate  to mount the psu .

 I will be smaller yet about 13 by 13 inches. I will post final  look on tues.

I am pulling 223 watts for 300h

I could add 1 cable  and put in 1 msi rx 470,but  I do like the look and sound (35db) of this pc.

Phil you can add a HDMI dummi dongle and wifi dongle - so rig will be about cordless/cableless and clean

That's a good idea. Thanks

[vapourminer]

@Phil

i am buying a rx 470 4 gb tomorrow.. what brand/models do you run for 470s?

I like the msi rx 470  it is quiet cools well and does not have a back plate  which lets it fit in a four card biostar build very easy.


https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-470-4G/dp/B01JS9F9K4/ref=sr_1_1?


192 -25 rebate = 167

sweet. its going in open air rig at the moment but a 4 slot rig is in the works so it fits there too.

thanks!

[GabryRox]

I am in the midst of building my 2nd rig, which I'm hoping to get 6 470's running on an ASRock H81 Pro BTC 2.0 Mobo.  My plan is to keep all 6 GPU's off-board using powered risers. I am building this onto a DIYPC open test bench like my first rig but rather than mounting the GPUs onto wood planks, I am hoping to somehow attach them to a wire rack shelf I have bought. Not 100% sure this will work though but am hopeful as my first rig is not really mobile (ok since it will stay in my garage year round) but I want this 2nd rig to be mobile so I can move it around my house depending on time of year. So, I will try to build into this smallish wire rack shelf but if it doesnt work, I am looking into other options.  I found something that looks really nice on ebay so would like to get some opinions on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/232139141160?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The frame itself is exactly what I am looking for but cannot seem to find it without all the extra stuff this comes with.  This is pricey but it does come with a Plat PSU 1200W and 6 risers + all cables needed.  Given this, it seems like a decent deal, but my real question is about that PSU.  I have never seen one like this before so wondering if there are any draw-backs vs the standard ATX style PSU. It looks like it may only have PCIe connectors though, meaning i would might still have to buy a small ATX PSU to power the remaining components. If so, this would be a bit of a waste since I will be using 6 undervolted 470's that should easily allow the full system to be powered by 1200W PSU.  Any feedback on this item would be appreciated.

[LoneRangir]

If anyone has a Hitman or Civilization VI code they want to sell, PM me.  My son would be most appreciative These games have been bundled with 470s and 480s recently. I'm not buying hardware A.T.M.  Waiting to see what happens with the 490s.

[ATCkit]

I'm enjoying this thread and thinking about doing a 7 GPU build with the 470 4GB.

1 What's the best 7 slot MOBO for doing that?

2.  Since I might ship it to Cryptoboreas where i have my BTC rigs located, i need an enclosed case with good fans. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[LoneRangir]

I'm enjoying this thread and thinking about doing a 7 GPU build with the 470 4GB.

1 What's the best 7 slot MOBO for doing that?

2.  Since I might ship it to Cryptoboreas where i have my BTC rigs located, i need an enclosed case with good fans. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Seven card boards can be hard to come by.  This one does six, and is quite popular. You will need risers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157724

If you're looking for a custom rig server case, check out AriesIV10's signature.

[padrino]

If anyone has a Hitman or Civilization VI code they want to sell, PM me.  My son would be most appreciative These games have been bundled with 470s and 480s recently. I'm not buying hardware A.T.M.  Waiting to see what happens with the 490s.

I have plenty of Hitman codes, sending you one via PM.

[ps_jb]

Seven card boards can be hard to come by.  This one does six, and is quite popular. You will need risers.

It is super easy to find:

That one is the most used in our community to build 7x GPUs

MSI Gaming Z97 GAMING 5 LGA 1150 Intel Z97

[philipma1957]

@Phil

i am buying a rx 470 4 gb tomorrow.. what brand/models do you run for 470s?

I like the msi rx 470  it is quiet cools well and does not have a back plate  which lets it fit in a four card biostar build very easy.


https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-470-4G/dp/B01JS9F9K4/ref=sr_1_1?


192 -25 rebate = 167

sweet. its going in open air rig at the moment but a 4 slot rig is in the works so it fits there too.

thanks!

I ordered one.
The goal is to have all biostar z170 mobos  with all msi rx 470's

I will be listing some mobos and some cards later in the week.
I also am getting my two avalon 721's tomorrow and an antminer r4 maybe on fri.

I need to move and switch a  lot of gear around. Over the next 3-5 days.

[rawbert]

If anyone has a Hitman or Civilization VI code they want to sell, PM me.  My son would be most appreciative These games have been bundled with 470s and 480s recently. I'm not buying hardware A.T.M.  Waiting to see what happens with the 490s.

I have plenty of Hitman codes, sending you one via PM.

I'd love to have one too!

[citronick]

@Phil

i am buying a rx 470 4 gb tomorrow.. what brand/models do you run for 470s?

I like the msi rx 470  it is quiet cools well and does not have a back plate  which lets it fit in a four card biostar build very easy.


https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-470-4G/dp/B01JS9F9K4/ref=sr_1_1?


192 -25 rebate = 167

sweet. its going in open air rig at the moment but a 4 slot rig is in the works so it fits there too.

thanks!

I ordered one.
The goal is to have all biostar z170 mobos  with all msi rx 470's

I will be listing some mobos and some cards later in the week.
I also am getting my two avalon 721's tomorrow and an antminer r4 maybe on fri.

I need to move and switch a  lot of gear around. Over the next 3-5 days.

Hi Phil - I know its a bit off topic in our GPU thread, can you post your R4 review when you get it.  That rotary fan design is suppose to be very good - I have seen it before in a server build. My Juvia farm - A7s are also arriving next week shipped direct to my ISP... incidentally I got email from Bitmain that their next S9 sale is coming soon.

[philipma1957]

@Phil

i am buying a rx 470 4 gb tomorrow.. what brand/models do you run for 470s?

I like the msi rx 470  it is quiet cools well and does not have a back plate  which lets it fit in a four card biostar build very easy.


https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-470-4G/dp/B01JS9F9K4/ref=sr_1_1?


192 -25 rebate = 167

sweet. its going in open air rig at the moment but a 4 slot rig is in the works so it fits there too.

thanks!

I ordered one.
The goal is to have all biostar z170 mobos  with all msi rx 470's

I will be listing some mobos and some cards later in the week.
I also am getting my two avalon 721's tomorrow and an antminer r4 maybe on fri.

I need to move and switch a  lot of gear around. Over the next 3-5 days.

Hi Phil - I know its a bit off topic in our GPU thread, can you post your R4 review when you get it.  That rotary fan design is suppose to be very good - I have seen it before in a server build. My Juvia farm - A7s are also arriving next week shipped direct to my ISP... incidentally I got email from Bitmain that their next S9 sale is coming soon.

Fuck the s9 ------- The item needs to be 10 or more and buy a few spare controllers  10 s9s = 30 boards of which you will lose 3 to 6 of them
and you lose at least 1 controller.  That is about a 10-15% loss  so buying 10 means you get 8 or 9.
 At 59 years young  climbing into a loft 3 to 5 times a week does not cut it for me.



But I have hope for the r4  I will review it.
I will review the avalon 721.

Both are due this week.

[citronick]

@Phil

i am buying a rx 470 4 gb tomorrow.. what brand/models do you run for 470s?

I like the msi rx 470  it is quiet cools well and does not have a back plate  which lets it fit in a four card biostar build very easy.


https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-470-4G/dp/B01JS9F9K4/ref=sr_1_1?


192 -25 rebate = 167

sweet. its going in open air rig at the moment but a 4 slot rig is in the works so it fits there too.

thanks!

I ordered one.
The goal is to have all biostar z170 mobos  with all msi rx 470's

I will be listing some mobos and some cards later in the week.
I also am getting my two avalon 721's tomorrow and an antminer r4 maybe on fri.

I need to move and switch a  lot of gear around. Over the next 3-5 days.

Hi Phil - I know its a bit off topic in our GPU thread, can you post your R4 review when you get it.  That rotary fan design is suppose to be very good - I have seen it before in a server build. My Juvia farm - A7s are also arriving next week shipped direct to my ISP... incidentally I got email from Bitmain that their next S9 sale is coming soon.

Fuck the s9 ------- The item needs to be 10 or more and buy a few spare controllers  10 s9s = 30 boards of which you will lose 3 to 6 of them
and you lose at least 1 controller.  That is about a 10-15% loss  so buying 10 means you get 8 or 9.
 At 59 years young  climbing into a loft 3 to 5 times a week does not cut it for me.

But I have hope for the r4  I will review it.
I will review the avalon 721.

Both are due this week.

The A7s arriving next week hopefully all can be online before Christmas - looking forward to the R4 review.

[ATCkit]

Seven card boards can be hard to come by.  This one does six, and is quite popular. You will need risers.

It is super easy to find:

That one is the most used in our community to build 7x GPUs

MSI Gaming Z97 GAMING 5 LGA 1150 Intel Z97

Thanks guys. Will tumble the numbers....but I'm guessing the 6 gpu rig will have a lower cost per watts used to for each hash.

[citronick]

Seven card boards can be hard to come by.  This one does six, and is quite popular. You will need risers.

It is super easy to find:

That one is the most used in our community to build 7x GPUs

MSI Gaming Z97 GAMING 5 LGA 1150 Intel Z97

Thanks guys. Will tumble the numbers....but I'm guessing the 6 gpu rig will have a lower cost per watts used to for each hash.

for standard 7 cards rig, a good ole H81 Pro BTC mobo with 6 slots and add a 3-1 PCI card, will cost less than Z97 7-slotter ... IMHO.

[vg54dett]

Electric Cost = $0.12 cents per KW

 12 c / kwh is getting into *OUCH* range on electric cost.

 The entire reason I moved last summer was that I considered 7.5-8c/kwh 9 months 14plus the other 3 months was way too high.


 ETH is probably getting hammered because of the "2'nd and 3'd hard fork" issue, which are happening to cure the long-running issue with attacks overloading the network but some folks think any fork is a bad thing.

 Even with that, *for me* ETH has been more profitable the last few days, abet it's close.

 My electricity cost is basically "fixed" right now, but I'm in a rather odd situation for at least the next few months - but even if it wasn't, my electric cost is low enough I doubt that the power savings ZEC has would make up for the lower income *IN MY CASE*


 Don't take anyone's word for it, crunch the numbers yourself because they DO vary.

I'm personnally mining at 0,18$/kWh, and that's still profitable. Of course says goodbye to 290 and such, but with RX 470, a little with R9 380 and 1070, I find a way to be profitable.

My 2 test rigs are 290s and 370s -- the 290s are really power hungry just like the 390s. The 370s uses very little power.

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sorry for long sharing.

Citronick , how do you use Ethman monitoring with smartphone ? Would give a try. Thank you !

havent tried that yet, but ethman dashboard is web-server ready port 8000.

so if you do port routing on your router, you can access this dashboard using your phone browser just like any website....

http:\\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxx:8000, where xxx is your public IP address.

Personally, I avoid this method because its a security risk in my opinion and bad things happen if the bad guys know your public IP address.

So I use Teamviewer on my Note 5 and access my management server at the farm. I try to avoid using TV on the phone because its simply too small of a screen but cant be helped during "emergency" situations. A decent tablet will be more suitable. Or wait till you get back home in front of your PC, and sipping a cuppa or beer....

I also have CCTV viewer on phone to see my farm (non-BTC), where I have a giant clock/temp next to my workstation. I use this more often because I need to manage the temps. I have invested on a "blower" but i need to experiment for maximum heat disposal out of the warehouse.... work in progress. I will post a separate thread on this topic.

sorry for long sharing...

Citronick, just a quick question in case you can advice me:
I would like to watch Ethman with  my android tablet when I'm in the same place as the rigs. So the tablet would be on the same private network than rigs (wifi for tablet and ethernet for rigs but same router).
How would be the easyest way to do it ? without creating a security risk like the port routing.
Since it'sonly local network, I think it can be simple, but I'm not used enough to it yet, so I would be glad to get some advice.
(sorry for bad translation)

[citronick]

vg54dett...

In your local network, where you rigs are connected, at your management server, fire up ethman.exe and you see the dashboard.

If you install Teamviewer on this PC, you can access it wherever you are via your Android. You need to install TV for Android.

You can access the browser version of the running Ethman.exe because its has a simple webserver running when Ethman.exe is running.

Just type the management PC's IP address 192.168.xxx.xxx:8000 (Ethman.exe must be ruuning on this PC), on your tablet's browser - I am assuming you Android is connected to the wifi-router, where your rigs are located.

The hidden gem of Claymore's miners IMHO is Ethman.exe.