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I hate to say but without US (not even Chinese can not help) this is pretty useless. And i am speaking this as a European citizen...
pretty useless? I wouldn't say that |
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pind919
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December 22, 2016, 01:49:46 PM |
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I hate to say but without US (not even Chinese can not help) this is pretty useless. And i am speaking this as a European citizen...
pretty useless? I wouldn't say that it would be nice if ICONOMI shows how many % of investors have from US and you will have a clear picture! my bet is that US investors in ICN are more then 45% then EU is less then 24% i wont mention china investors maybe less then 3%? |
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pinkman12345
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December 22, 2016, 01:53:44 PM |
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Sounds like the whines of a few butt hurt Americans. Tbh there's no reason why you can't use vpn as an American and purchase ICNX. Whose to say that you live in the US when you invest? And whosee to say you are/aren't in US when you cash out to BTC?
Stop trying to crash price with trash talk
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Daparski
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December 22, 2016, 01:54:04 PM |
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I hate to say but without US (not even Chinese can not help) this is pretty useless. And i am speaking this as a European citizen...
pretty useless? I wouldn't say that it would be nice if ICONOMI shows how many % of investors have from US and you will have a clear picture! my bet is that US investors in ICN are more then 45% then EU is less then 24% i wont mention china investors maybe less then 3%? They can't know that since most of them invested with crypto. USA fiat investors were a very small portion of the total amount collected |
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MalReynolds
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December 22, 2016, 01:54:46 PM |
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I hate to say but without US (not even Chinese can not help) this is pretty useless. And i am speaking this as a European citizen...
pretty useless? I wouldn't say that it would be nice if ICONOMI shows how many % of investors have from US and you will have a clear picture! my bet is that US investors in ICN are more then 45% then EU is less then 24% i wont mention china investors maybe less then 3%? Speaking as a US citizen, do not underestimate the imagination, resourcefulness and determination we will show to get around any legal limits put between us and having more money. Tbh there's no reason why you can't use vpn as an American and purchase ICNX. Whose to say that you live in the US when you invest? And whosee to say you are/aren't in US when you cash out to BTC?
This^^^^. |
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December 22, 2016, 01:56:53 PM |
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Sounds like the whines of a few butt hurt Americans. Tbh there's no reason why you can't use vpn as an American and purchase ICNX. Whose to say that you live in the US when you invest? And whosee to say you are/aren't in US when you cash out to BTC?
Stop trying to crash price with trash talk
Not trash talking its blunt truth would not be a problem if iconomi was more up front about this from day one.. yeah anyone could try to go around with VPNs etc but you really think old economy money is going to risk this along with prison time and having all their assets frozen? |
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December 22, 2016, 02:05:54 PM |
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Doe it mean you are getting out?
Only if you can share your thoughs
America and the United States are two different things. The United States is a place, America is a state of mind. I will never leave the United States because I love America and its wonderful people and I always will. The idea of America is something people all over the world share. That is why they come to the United States to apply for asylum and citizenship, because the American idea is strongest in the United States even if it is weakening here in many ways. The idea behind ICONOMI is as American as ideas get. It is a true shame that the laws of the United States have become so restrictive that US citizens are cut off from the 100% American idea represented by ICONOMI. Perfect analysis! The American dream, ICONOMI will be making this wonder possible. The people who restrict the actions of ICONOMI in the US will repent and they analyzed with Americanism the liberation in the territory. Not bad intelpretes my opinion, but if it is going to say something about United States do not say America, the right thing is North America, America is made up of many nations |
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December 22, 2016, 02:06:14 PM
Last edit: December 22, 2016, 02:20:47 PM by Daparski |
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I hate to say but without US (not even Chinese can not help) this is pretty useless. And i am speaking this as a European citizen...
pretty useless? I wouldn't say that it would be nice if ICONOMI shows how many % of investors have from US and you will have a clear picture! my bet is that US investors in ICN are more then 45% then EU is less then 24% i wont mention china investors maybe less then 3%? Speaking as a US citizen, do not underestimate the imagination, resourcefulness and determination we will show to get around any legal limits put between us and having more money. Tbh there's no reason why you can't use vpn as an American and purchase ICNX. Whose to say that you live in the US when you invest? And whosee to say you are/aren't in US when you cash out to BTC?
This^^^^. ExpressVPN has this thing accepting BTC payments and the server seems to be unable to keep any logs. |
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December 22, 2016, 02:26:23 PM |
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I hate to say but without US (not even Chinese can not help) this is pretty useless. And i am speaking this as a European citizen...
pretty useless? I wouldn't say that it would be nice if ICONOMI shows how many % of investors have from US and you will have a clear picture! my bet is that US investors in ICN are more then 45% then EU is less then 24% i wont mention china investors maybe less then 3%? Speaking as a US citizen, do not underestimate the imagination, resourcefulness and determination we will show to get around any legal limits put between us and having more money.
Tbh there's no reason why you can't use vpn as an American and purchase ICNX. Whose to say that you live in the US when you invest? And whosee to say you are/aren't in US when you cash out to BTC?
This^^^^. I guess the KYC/AML compliance could get in the way, no? |
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December 22, 2016, 02:27:13 PM |
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I'm curious as to whether anyone is currently using a ledger hardware wallet to store their ICNs? My ledger nano s wallet finally arrived today. The fuckers at my local post office lost it or the delivery cunt stole it. Anyway, they sent a replacement straight away and refunded my shipping cost. Talk about top class customer service...
I will send a few ICN to ETH address and see how it shows it on the app once I've configured the wallet. Also anyone have any tips on where to store the recovery phrase card with the 24 words? I'm thinking of storing it in a safe but I'm fucked if my place burns down or someone breaks in. Storing in more than one location might be a safer option, but where else could be a good place to store?
Be careful about how you store your recovery seed. BurtW had his trezor stored in a safe at his home, and his recovery seed stored at his office. Government broke into both locations and robbed him of his BTC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934268.msg11902959#msg11902959Wow thanks for the heads up! I guess you always think it will never happen to you... Seriously that is so fucked! Hiding it in a place like a safe is probably the worst place now that I think about it. I'm curious as to whether anyone is currently using a ledger hardware wallet to store their ICNs? My ledger nano s wallet finally arrived today. The fuckers at my local post office lost it or the delivery cunt stole it. Anyway, they sent a replacement straight away and refunded my shipping cost. Talk about top class customer service...
I will send a few ICN to ETH address and see how it shows it on the app once I've configured the wallet. Also anyone have any tips on where to store the recovery phrase card with the 24 words? I'm thinking of storing it in a safe but I'm fucked if my place burns down or someone breaks in. Storing in more than one location might be a safer option, but where else could be a good place to store?
I wish I'd have the memory to memorize those 24 words. Depends on the amount of funds you're gonna store on the device. Bank safe is one option, if you trust someone else, it doesn't have to be registered on your name. You can also split the seed into 2 locations. I don't trust anyone else because I'm ALL IN* and will not sell until 2018 or when my ICN is worth at least half a million $$$, I have a feeling the latter will come first  Having cold storage will allow me to resist temptation of selling (even only part of my position) too early and getting burnt like most weak hands will. * by all in, I mean the total amount I have invested in crypto including profits from ETH XMR & FCT, and not my entire life saving! |
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December 22, 2016, 02:33:53 PM |
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I'm curious as to whether anyone is currently using a ledger hardware wallet to store their ICNs? My ledger nano s wallet finally arrived today. The fuckers at my local post office lost it or the delivery cunt stole it. Anyway, they sent a replacement straight away and refunded my shipping cost. Talk about top class customer service...
I will send a few ICN to ETH address and see how it shows it on the app once I've configured the wallet. Also anyone have any tips on where to store the recovery phrase card with the 24 words? I'm thinking of storing it in a safe but I'm fucked if my place burns down or someone breaks in. Storing in more than one location might be a safer option, but where else could be a good place to store?
I wish I'd have the memory to memorize those 24 words. Depends on the amount of funds you're gonna store on the device. Bank safe is one option, if you trust someone else, it doesn't have to be registered on your name. You can also split the seed into 2 locations. I don't trust anyone else because I'm ALL IN* and will not sell until 2018 or when my ICN is worth at least half a million $$$, I have a feeling the latter will come first Having cold storage will allow me to resist temptation of selling (even only part of my position) too early and getting burnt like most weak hands will. * by all in, I mean the total amount I have invested in crypto including profits from ETH XMR & FCT, and not my entire life saving! [/quote] Same here.. I am fighting myself not to trade the file cuz I decided no selling before $8-10 If you come up with a good idea about the seed and can share, my nano is on the way |
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December 22, 2016, 02:40:34 PM |
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* by all in, I mean the total amount I have invested in crypto including profits from ETH XMR & FCT, and not my entire life saving!
Same here.. I am fighting myself not to trade the file cuz I decided no selling before $8-10
If you come up with a good idea about the seed and can share, my nano is on the way
I would love to buy some more too. Too bad both Ethereum and Lisk lost a lot of value. But like you mentioned, if $8-10 is reached I might think about selling a small bit. |
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December 22, 2016, 02:55:15 PM |
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Same here, at LEAST 10 euro. And I am saying this as a EU citizen  |
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December 22, 2016, 03:28:35 PM |
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Same here, at LEAST 10 euro. And I am saying this as a EU citizen i sel only when i have my investement back in dividends  and only the money that i invested.. the rest will go wherever icn will go  |
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December 22, 2016, 03:32:00 PM |
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On Kraken i can see that Weighted Avg is ฿0.000143. Is it means that the price will go down?
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December 22, 2016, 03:32:41 PM |
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so anyone got an invite so far?
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MadGamer
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December 22, 2016, 03:56:00 PM |
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so anyone got an invite so far?
I personally didn't receive an invitation yet but I got an email from Jani saying that I should receive the invitation soon or Saturday at tops.  |
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December 22, 2016, 04:05:09 PM |
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so anyone got an invite so far?
I personally didn't receive an invitation yet but I got an email from Jani saying that I should receive the invitation soon or Saturday at tops. Dito! Stil hammering F5 all day! My fingers are bleeding, but I will keep going.  |
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December 22, 2016, 04:10:33 PM |
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On Kraken i can see that Weighted Avg is ฿0.000143. Is it means that the price will go down?
Its now at 34k, how that going down? The more users will buy 28th of december is approaching and i can skip christmas celebration just to buy more ICN. I can just buy some grilled chicken and watch the fireworks outside. |
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WoJJ78
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December 22, 2016, 04:15:01 PM |
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On Kraken i can see that Weighted Avg is ฿0.000143. Is it means that the price will go down?
Its now at 34k, how that going down? The more users will buy 28th of december is approaching and i can skip christmas celebration just to buy more ICN. I can just buy some grilled chicken and watch the fireworks outside. Cheap coins before the 28th! Yeey I think it's also because BTC is surging, so we'll see how that goes. |
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